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22nd Feb '16 4:07:42 PM viking1911
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*Albert Einstein 'I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.'
18th Feb '16 10:03:12 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* In ''Literature/WorldWarZ'', the world's armies have largely abandoned tanks, jet fighters, aircraft carriers, and indeed most modern tactics, as such equipment and tactics are poorly suited for fighting masses of unarmed, NighInvulnerable zombies that can't feel pain or fear. While trucks and armored vehicles are still invaluable for logistics, assault rifles, grenades, and bayonets have been replaced -- the new weapons of choice for most soldiers are semi-automatic rifles and the "Lobotomizer", a cross between a shovel and a battleaxe. The squad is also no longer the base unit for organization of soldiers -- instead, they are organized into lines and fire in accurate, devastating salvos, like something off of a Napoleonic battlefield. More modern equipment is still kept in reserve for fighting rebels, separatists, survivalist holdouts, and enemy nations, but otherwise spends most of its time mothballed.

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* In ''Literature/WorldWarZ'', the world's armies have largely abandoned tanks, jet fighters, aircraft carriers, and indeed most modern tactics, as such equipment and tactics are poorly suited for fighting masses of unarmed, NighInvulnerable zombies that can't feel pain or fear. While trucks and armored vehicles cargo planes are still invaluable for logistics, and armored infantry fighting vehicles like the Bradley are also useful for clearing out urban areas (where a massive horde of zombies can suddenly emerge from around a corner), assault rifles, grenades, and bayonets have been replaced -- the new weapons of choice for most soldiers are semi-automatic rifles and the "Lobotomizer", a cross between a shovel and a battleaxe. The squad is also no longer the base unit for organization of soldiers -- instead, they are organized into lines and fire in accurate, devastating salvos, like something off of a Napoleonic battlefield. More modern equipment is still kept in reserve for fighting rebels, separatists, survivalist holdouts, and enemy nations, but otherwise spends most of its time mothballed. Notably, Russia and China are among the few countries that stick with 'traditional' combat tactics and weapons in their fight against the zombies, and [[RussianGuySuffersMost both countries suffer massive casualties]] as a result; the Russians held together solely due to [[ChurchMilitant religious fervor]], while the Chinese almost fell apart entirely until the military brass launched a coup against [[TooDumbToLive the Communist Party leadership]] and turned things around.
17th Feb '16 9:12:30 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The aircraft carrier example given in the description is [[http://sploid.gizmodo.com/are-the-us-navy-supercarriers-useless-1484497670 speculated]] by some military theorists to be on its way to becoming TruthInTelevision sometime in the 21st century, due to the increasing efficacy of anti-ship missiles. Given that these same missiles can also sink other large boats, the consequence of this would be that the future of naval warfare in this environment would resemble a mix of the mid-late 19th century, with every surface vessel larger than a cruiser (the smallest warship that can operate independently in the open ocean) rendered obsolete, and the early 20th century, specifically the submarine warfare employed by Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the two]] UsefulNotes/{{World War|II}}s. Such predictions take on [[http://www.newsweek.com/china-dongfeng-21d-missile-us-aircraft-carrier-427063 an especially ominous tone]] for the United States, whose unmatched navy is built entirely around the power of its carrier task forces; the other boats in the fleet are all there to protect the carriers.

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* The aircraft carrier example given in the description is [[http://sploid.gizmodo.com/are-the-us-navy-supercarriers-useless-1484497670 speculated]] by some military theorists to be on its way to becoming TruthInTelevision sometime in the 21st century, due to the increasing efficacy of anti-ship missiles. Given that these same missiles can also sink other large boats, the consequence of this would be that the future of naval warfare in this environment would resemble a mix of the mid-late 19th century, century (before the [[LensmanArmsRace dreadnought race]]), with every surface vessel larger than a cruiser (the smallest warship that can operate independently in the open ocean) rendered obsolete, and the early 20th century, specifically the submarine warfare employed by Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the two]] UsefulNotes/{{World War|II}}s. Such predictions take on [[http://www.newsweek.com/china-dongfeng-21d-missile-us-aircraft-carrier-427063 an especially ominous tone]] for the United States, whose unmatched navy is built entirely around the power of its carrier task forces; the other boats in the fleet are all there to protect the carriers.
17th Feb '16 9:10:51 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* In the future of ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'' advances in anti-air defense had made air and missile strikes nearly impossible, and fullerene armor made ordinary guns obsolete. Which meant most battles were fought on the ground, by men in suits armor hitting one another with hammers. [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20101028.html "Oh, how far we have come."]] One of the major story arcs involves a war that ends when one side uses a KillSat to knock out their opponent's AA and launching a bunch of [[BreakOutTheMuseumPiece museum piece ICBMs]]

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* In the future of ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'' advances in anti-air defense had made air and missile strikes nearly impossible, and fullerene armor made ordinary guns obsolete. Which meant most battles were fought on the ground, by men in suits armor hitting one another with hammers. [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20101028.html "Oh, how far we have come."]] One of the major story arcs involves a war that ends when one side uses a KillSat to knock out their opponent's AA and launching a bunch of [[BreakOutTheMuseumPiece museum piece ICBMs]]
ICBMs]].

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* The aircraft carrier example given in the description is [[http://sploid.gizmodo.com/are-the-us-navy-supercarriers-useless-1484497670 speculated]] by some military theorists to be on its way to becoming TruthInTelevision sometime in the 21st century, due to the increasing efficacy of anti-ship missiles. Given that these same missiles can also sink other large boats, the consequence of this would be that the future of naval warfare in this environment would resemble a mix of the mid-late 19th century, with every surface vessel larger than a cruiser (the smallest warship that can operate independently in the open ocean) rendered obsolete, and the early 20th century, specifically the submarine warfare employed by Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the two]] UsefulNotes/{{World War|II}}s. Such predictions take on [[http://www.newsweek.com/china-dongfeng-21d-missile-us-aircraft-carrier-427063 an especially ominous tone]] for the United States, whose unmatched navy is built entirely around the power of its carrier task forces; the other boats in the fleet are all there to protect the carriers.
23rd Nov '15 10:38:07 AM Scorntex
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': "Genesis of The Daleks" shows Skaro, the home planet of the dread pepperpots, was undergoing this because of just how long the ForeverWar on that planet had been going. Both sides had started out with nukes and chemical weapons, and by the time the Doctor and crew arrive, the soldiers are fighting with guns or even bayonets, because they're running low on bullets by that point. The Doctor speculates that if they go any further, both sides will be forced down to bows and arrows.
26th Aug '15 12:00:39 PM SolidSonicTH
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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using {{LaserBlade}}s an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful {{Laser Blade}}s can be a OneHitKill.

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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using {{LaserBlade}}s {{Laser Blade}}s an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful {{Laser Blade}}s can be a OneHitKill.
26th Aug '15 12:00:22 PM SolidSonicTH
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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using {{LaserBlade}}s an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful {{LaserBlade}}s can be a OneHitKill.

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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using {{LaserBlade}}s an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful {{LaserBlade}}s {{Laser Blade}}s can be a OneHitKill.
23rd Aug '15 4:18:42 PM ZeroReaper
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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using LaserBlades an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful LaserBlades can be a OneHitKill.

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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using LaserBlades {{LaserBlade}}s an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful LaserBlades {{LaserBlade}}s can be a OneHitKill.
23rd Aug '15 4:18:09 PM ZeroReaper
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* In ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'', the advent of powerful mecha - particularly the [[SuperPrototype NEXTs]] in the 4/For Answer continuity, have rendered close combat using LaserBlades an extremely effective strategy, since such mecha are both very fast and extremely resistant to gunfire. Thus, a SwordFight between thirty-foot-high mecha moving at more than the speed of sound is not an uncommon sight on future battlefields, as a single strike from some of the more powerful LaserBlades can be a OneHitKill.
20th Aug '15 1:10:03 PM Observance
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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', the military is primarily trained in [[DualWielding double swords]] and hand-to-hand combat because flintlock rifles are much less useful personnel weapons for fighting Titans, though cannons still get used in Titan defense and rifles are kept around to enforce the law and to deal with possible civil wars or uprisings.

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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', the military is primarily trained in [[DualWielding double swords]] and hand-to-hand combat because flintlock rifles are much less useful personnel the unique biology of Titans makes projectile weapons for fighting Titans, nearly useless, though cannons still get used in Titan defense to slow them down and rifles are kept around to enforce the law and to deal with possible civil wars or uprisings.
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