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22nd Jun '17 9:24:26 PM Mario1995
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** The [=KidZone=] revamp could finally be happening, as [[[http://themeparkuniversity.com/universal/universal-studios-super-nintendo-world-plans-leaked/ alleged leaked concept art and maps]] have revealed that much of the area will be replaced by Super Creator/{{Nintendo}} World. Odd fit, but said concept art promises some spectacular goodies.

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** The [=KidZone=] revamp could finally be happening, as [[[http://themeparkuniversity.[[http://themeparkuniversity.com/universal/universal-studios-super-nintendo-world-plans-leaked/ alleged leaked concept art and maps]] have revealed that much of the area will be replaced by Super Creator/{{Nintendo}} World. Odd fit, but said concept art promises some spectacular goodies.
22nd Jun '17 9:21:04 PM Mario1995
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** The [=KidZone=] revamp could finally be happening, as [[[http://themeparkuniversity.com/universal/universal-studios-super-nintendo-world-plans-leaked/ alleged leaked concept art and maps]] have revealed that much of the area will be replaced by Super Creator/{{Nintendo}} World. Odd fit, but said concept art promises some spectacular goodies.
22nd Jun '17 9:12:48 PM Mario1995
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** For more on the original plans for World Showcase, which also included Israel and United Arab Emirates pavilions, see this [[http://allears.net/ae/issue670.htm article featuring a 1978 press release]]. For the record, the UAE pavilion was scrapped due to financial issues, and Israel was scrapped for fears it would turn the resort into a target for Islamic terrorists, though it actually came very close to construction, to the point that signage announced that it, along with Spain and Equatorial Africa, were coming soon.

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** For more on the original plans for World Showcase, which also included Israel and United Arab Emirates pavilions, see this [[http://allears.net/ae/issue670.htm article featuring a 1978 press release]]. For the record, the UAE pavilion was scrapped due to financial issues, and Israel was scrapped for fears it would turn the resort into a target for Palestinian or Islamic terrorists, extremists, though it actually came very close to construction, to the point that signage announced that it, along with Spain and Equatorial Africa, were coming soon.
16th Jun '17 7:59:10 PM Az_Tech341
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* ''Ride/TheHauntedMansion'' went through several different ideas. Early concepts included a hangout for horror-themed Disney villains, like the Disney/LonesomeGhosts and [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad the Headless Horseman]], having a Raven narrate the ride (abandoned when it was decided the Ghost Host would work better), and a Hatbox Ghost which carried around a severed head as a character (ditched due to the Imagineers deciding it didn't look good enough, though it was actually in the ride during its first few weeks, and later made a grand return in 2015, updated with more convincing digital effects). Other concepts from the 1950s included several much darker walkthrough attractions, a version where Walt himself narrated, and several very long illusions including a ghost flooding a room.

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* ''Ride/TheHauntedMansion'' went through several different ideas. Early concepts included a hangout for horror-themed Disney villains, like the Disney/LonesomeGhosts and Disney/LonesomeGhosts, [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad the Headless Horseman]], and having a Raven narrate the ride (abandoned when it was decided the Ghost Host would work better), and a Hatbox Ghost which carried around a severed head as a character (ditched due to the Imagineers deciding it didn't look good enough, though it was actually in the ride during its first few weeks, and later made a grand return in 2015, updated with more convincing digital effects). Other better)Other concepts from the 1950s included several much darker walkthrough attractions, a version where Walt himself narrated, and several very long illusions including a ghost flooding a room.
16th Jun '17 6:35:54 PM BNSF1995
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* ''Ride/TheHauntedMansion'' went through several different ideas. Early concepts included a hangout for horror-themed Disney villains, like the Disney/LonesomeGhosts and [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad the Headless Horseman]], having a Raven narrate the ride (abandoned when it was decided the Ghost Host would work better), and a Hatbox Ghost which carried around a severed head as a character (ditched due to the Imagineers deciding it didn't look good enough). Other concepts from the 1950s included several much darker walkthrough attractions, a version where Walt himself narrated, and several very long illusions including a ghost flooding a room.

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* ''Ride/TheHauntedMansion'' went through several different ideas. Early concepts included a hangout for horror-themed Disney villains, like the Disney/LonesomeGhosts and [[Disney/TheAdventuresOfIchabodAndMrToad the Headless Horseman]], having a Raven narrate the ride (abandoned when it was decided the Ghost Host would work better), and a Hatbox Ghost which carried around a severed head as a character (ditched due to the Imagineers deciding it didn't look good enough).enough, though it was actually in the ride during its first few weeks, and later made a grand return in 2015, updated with more convincing digital effects). Other concepts from the 1950s included several much darker walkthrough attractions, a version where Walt himself narrated, and several very long illusions including a ghost flooding a room.



** Phase II development of Tomorrowland was underway at this time (which added Space Mountain, Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress, the Astro Orbiter, and the Tomorrowland Transit Authority [=PeopleMover=]). The construction of the Tomorrowland rides meant that money and resources couldn't be allocated to construction of attractions in other lands.
** Ultimately, the Western River Expedition was scrapped, but two of its rides would eventually be built in Frontierland: the mine train roller coaster opened in 1980 as ''Big Thunder Mountain Railroad'', while the boat ride opened in 1992 as ''Splash Mountain''.

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** Phase II development of Tomorrowland was underway at this time (which added Space Mountain, Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress, the Astro Orbiter, Rocket Jets, and the Tomorrowland Transit Authority [=WEDWay=] [=PeopleMover=]). The construction of the Tomorrowland rides meant that money and resources couldn't be allocated to construction of attractions in other lands.
** Ultimately, the Western River Expedition was scrapped, but two of its rides would eventually be built in Frontierland: the mine train roller coaster opened in 1980 1981 as ''Big Thunder Mountain Railroad'', Railroad'' primarily to convince people not to put off their next visit to the resort until after Epcot opened (the ride had opened at Disneyland in 1979 as a replacement for the more sedate Mine Train thru Nature's Wonderland), while the boat ride opened in 1992 as ''Splash Mountain''.



* Several more countries were considered for Epcot's World Showcase, including a country from Africa or a simple "Equatorial Africa" pavillion. This one was scrapped because the only country willing to back it was South Africa, which was under apartheid in the 1980s. Two years after the park opened, Morocco was added to the lineup.

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* Several more countries were considered for Epcot's World Showcase, including a country from Africa or a simple "Equatorial Africa" pavillion. This one was scrapped because the only country willing to back it was South Africa, which was under apartheid in the 1980s.1980s, but was so close to completion, that a model appeared in the opening day telecast starring Creator/DannyKaye. Two years after the park opened, Morocco was added to the lineup.



** For more on the original plans for World Showcase, which also included Israel and United Arab Emirates pavilions, see this [[http://allears.net/ae/issue670.htm article featuring a 1978 press release]]. For the record, the UAE pavilion was scrapped due to financial issues, and Israel was scrapped for security reasons.

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** For more on the original plans for World Showcase, which also included Israel and United Arab Emirates pavilions, see this [[http://allears.net/ae/issue670.htm article featuring a 1978 press release]]. For the record, the UAE pavilion was scrapped due to financial issues, and Israel was scrapped for security reasons.fears it would turn the resort into a target for Islamic terrorists, though it actually came very close to construction, to the point that signage announced that it, along with Spain and Equatorial Africa, were coming soon.



* Plans for Disney's Hollywood Studios (then Disney-MGM Studios) included some ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit''-themed attractions (cancelled due to legal issues, though the Benny the Cab ride did see the light of day at Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland), a [[Franchise/TheMuppets Muppet]] version of The Great Movie Ride (cancelled due to Creator/JimHenson's death) and a ''Film/DickTracy'' ride (cancelled due to King Features Syndicate taking Creator/WarrenBeatty to court).

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* Plans for Disney's Hollywood Studios (then Disney-MGM Studios) included some ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit''-themed attractions (cancelled due to legal issues, though the Benny the Cab ride did see the light of day at Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland), Disneyland as Roger Rabbits Car-Toon Spin), a [[Franchise/TheMuppets Muppet]] version of The Great Movie Ride (cancelled due to Creator/JimHenson's death) and a ''Film/DickTracy'' ride (cancelled due to King Features Syndicate taking Creator/WarrenBeatty to court).



** Disney's Pop Century Resort was originally going to cover 1900-1949 with a second set of buildings on the other side of Hourglass Lake, but 9/11 happened shortly before the completed first set (1950-99) was to open; those eventually opened in 2004. The second set had the building "shells" put up, but there was never enough demand for rooms to complete them. Disney ultimately made the shells the basis for the Art of Animation Resort, which opened in 2012. As a result, Disney alumni jokingly refer to the Pop Century as the "Pop Half-Century Resort".

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** Disney's Pop Century Resort was originally going to cover 1900-1949 with a second set of buildings on the other side of Hourglass Lake, but 9/11 happened shortly before the completed first set (1950-99) was to open; those eventually opened in 2004. The second set had the building "shells" put up, but there was never enough demand for rooms to complete them. Disney ultimately made the shells the basis for the Art of Animation Resort, which opened in 2012. As a result, Disney alumni fans jokingly refer to the Pop Century as the "Pop Half-Century Resort".



** The Persian Resort was to have been themed around Iran. In fact, the Shah of Iran was ready to fund it, but the Iranian Revolution caused the plans to be scrapped. Apparently, there was to be a monorail spur running to the hotel, then into Tomorrowland at the Magic Kingdom (against Walt's wishes, which were to keep the monorail outside the park).

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** The Persian Resort was to have been themed around Iran. In fact, the Shah of Iran was ready to fund it, but the Iranian Revolution and the resulting new government being openly hostile towards the United States (and the west in general) caused the plans to be scrapped. Apparently, there was to be a monorail spur running to the hotel, then into Tomorrowland at the Magic Kingdom (against Walt's wishes, which were to keep the monorail outside the park). Part of this spur was built, and is part of the spur to the monorail barn.



** ''Spaceship Earth'' would become a thrill ride called ''Time Racers''' sponsored by Microsoft, though its post show Global Neighborhood would still be sponsored by AT&T for some reason.

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** ''Spaceship Earth'' would become a thrill ride called ''Time Racers''' sponsored by Microsoft, though its post show Global Neighborhood would still be sponsored by AT&T for some reason. The attraction would be a look at how man is literally racing through time.



** ''The Land'' pavilion would gain an outdoor hedge maze and an outdoor "rainforest" roller coaster, as well as a clone of the Disney's California Adventure attraction ''Soarin''[='=] (which managed to go through). ''The Living Seas'' pavilion would become an attraction re-themed to ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' called ''Under The Sea'' (which was later realized in the New Fantasyland expansion at Magic Kingdom), while the ''Journey into Imagination'' dark ride would get a re-theme to ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' (later becoming ''Mike & Sulley to the Rescue!'' at Disney California Adventure, replacing the short-lived ''Superstar Limo'')

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** ''The Land'' pavilion would gain an outdoor hedge maze and an outdoor "rainforest" roller coaster, as well as a clone of the Disney's California Adventure attraction ''Soarin''[='=] (which managed to go through). ''The Living Seas'' pavilion would become an attraction re-themed to ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' called ''Under The Sea'' (which was later realized in the New Fantasyland expansion at Magic Kingdom), Kingdom and the $1.1 billion overhaul of Disney's California Adventure), while the ''Journey into Imagination'' dark ride would get a re-theme to ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' (later becoming ''Mike & Sulley to the Rescue!'' at Disney California Adventure, replacing the short-lived ''Superstar Limo'')



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WestCOT WestCOT]] would have been Disneyland Anaheim's answer to Epcot in Florida. It would have had its own version of Spaceship Earth, a World Showcase based on the individual continents, clones of Journey into Imagination and Horizons, and a SpiritualSuccessor to Adventure Thru Inner Space. Alas, the whole thing was scrapped in 1995 due to budget issues and local opposition to the park's version of Spaceship Earth (or Spacestation Earth, as it was to be called) being a whopping ''300 feet tall'', and Disney built the California Adventure park instead. (And it's too bad, because the [[http://www.yesterland.com/images-westcot/westcot1_illustrative.jpg concept art]] for [=WestCOT=] looked ''really'' cool.)
* In the early 1990's, Disney planned to open a theme park devoted to American history called ''Disney's America'' near Manassas, Virginia. The plan fell through in 1994, due to vehement opposition from people worried about the impact on traffic and the potential for damage to key historic sites (the Manassas National Battlefield, site of two major [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar American Civil War]] battles, is located very close to the site that had been proposed for the park), not to mention concerns about the company that named the trope {{Disneyfication}} presenting a whole park built around RealLife history, as well as an attraction that would cast riders as runway slaves on the Underground Railroad. The idea was revived a few years later when Disney considered purchasing Knott's Berry Farm, but once again came to nothing. Some elements of the proposal were finally incorporated into Disney's California Adventure when that park opened in 2001.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WestCOT WestCOT]] would have been Disneyland Anaheim's answer to Epcot in Florida. It would have had its own version of Spaceship Earth, a World Showcase based on the individual continents, clones of Journey into Imagination and Horizons, and a SpiritualSuccessor to Adventure Thru Inner Space. Alas, the whole thing was scrapped in 1995 due to budget issues and local opposition to the park's version of Spaceship Earth (or Spacestation Earth, as it was to be called) being a whopping ''300 feet tall'', as opposed to Spaceship Earth's more reasonable 160-foot height, and Disney built the California Adventure park instead. (And it's too bad, because the [[http://www.yesterland.com/images-westcot/westcot1_illustrative.jpg concept art]] for [=WestCOT=] looked ''really'' cool.)
* In the early 1990's, Disney planned to open a theme park devoted to American history called ''Disney's America'' near Manassas, Virginia. The plan fell through in 1994, due to vehement opposition from people worried about the impact on traffic and the potential for damage to key historic sites (the Manassas National Battlefield, site of two major [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar American Civil War]] battles, is located very close to the site that had been proposed for the park), not to mention concerns about the company that named the trope {{Disneyfication}} presenting a whole park built around RealLife history, as well as an attraction that would cast riders as runway slaves on the Underground Railroad. The idea was revived a few years later when Disney considered purchasing Knott's Berry Farm, but once again came to nothing.nothing (ironically, Disney would have changed less in the park than Cedar Fair has). Some elements of the proposal were finally incorporated into Disney's California Adventure when that park opened in 2001.



* There were plans for a Switzerland pavilion at EPCOT Center's World Showcase, which would have brought the Matterhorn Bobsleds down to Florida.

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* There were plans for a Switzerland pavilion at EPCOT Center's World Showcase, which would have brought existed primarily as an excuse to bring the Matterhorn Bobsleds down to Florida.
13th Jun '17 8:49:31 AM Pichu-kun
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* Technical reasons: The people who were originally hired to do it backed out, the special effects plans didn't play out in their favor, there was not enough money in the budget to include it.

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* Technical reasons: The the people who were originally hired to do it backed out, the special effects plans didn't play out in their favor, there was not enough money in the budget to include it.



* Story quality -- The writers simply decided on something different instead because some ideas, no matter how cool they sound when they first come to you, just have to go (or, in the case of comedies, the joke wasn't as funny as it should have been). Maybe the author realizes the fans wouldn't be too happy about seeing the death of a [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] or [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]] character you originally planned to kill off (not that it stops [[Creator/JossWhedon a]] [[Creator/RomanPolanski few]] [[Creator/ChristopherNolan people]]). Or maybe you realize what sounds [[RuleOfCool oh so cool]] in your head pushes WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief too far on film or paper. Or maybe it was a [[AuthorsSavingThrow bad idea]] to begin with. In any case, someone eventually had a better idea.
* A side effect of ThrowItIn -- Something had to be ''thrown out'' or made up on the spot in its place. (This apparently happens a lot when you're working with Creator/HarrisonFord or if you're a cast member on ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'')

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* Story quality -- The writers simply decided on something different instead because some ideas, no matter how cool they sound when they first come to you, just have to go (or, in the case of comedies, the joke wasn't as funny as it should have been). Maybe the author realizes the fans wouldn't be too happy about seeing the death of a [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] or [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]] character you originally planned to kill off (not that it stops [[Creator/JossWhedon a]] [[Creator/RomanPolanski few]] [[Creator/ChristopherNolan people]]). Or maybe you realize what sounds [[RuleOfCool oh so cool]] in your head pushes WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief too far on film or paper. Or maybe it was a [[AuthorsSavingThrow bad idea]] with which to begin with.begin. In any case, someone eventually had a better idea.
* A side effect of ThrowItIn -- Something had to be ''thrown out'' or made up on the spot in its place. (This apparently happens a lot when you're working with Creator/HarrisonFord or if you're a cast member on ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'')



* Time constraints: Sometimes the creators simply run out of time and are unable to implement it.

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* Time constraints: Sometimes sometimes the creators simply run out of time and are unable to implement it.



Keep in mind that TropesAreTools and that the ideas and concepts implemented into the final product are sometimes better than What Would Have Been.

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Keep in mind that TropesAreTools and that the ideas and concepts implemented into the final product are sometimes better than What Would Could Have Been.
20th May '17 2:19:44 PM nombretomado
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** Leonard, who is basically TheHero by now, had initially been planned as an Expy of ''[[ValkyrieProfile Lezard Valeth.]]'' The only vestige of this still remaining is his Dark Magic type and last name, Valenth.

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** Leonard, who is basically TheHero by now, had initially been planned as an Expy of ''[[ValkyrieProfile ''[[VideoGame/ValkyrieProfile Lezard Valeth.]]'' The only vestige of this still remaining is his Dark Magic type and last name, Valenth.
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