History Main / VisualKei

25th Sep '17 4:32:46 AM Doug86
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* ConspicuousCG: Often found in VK promotional videos until well after TheTurnOfTheMillennium, and ''very'' prevalent in TheNineties. With the access almost anyone with the money to film a video has to even somewhat good producers and production software as of TheNewTens, it's mostly intentional or StylisticSuck if it appears in a video made then or afterward.

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* ConspicuousCG: Often found in VK promotional videos until well after TheTurnOfTheMillennium, the TurnOfTheMillennium, and ''very'' prevalent in TheNineties. With the access almost anyone with the money to film a video has to even somewhat good producers and production software as of TheNewTens, it's mostly intentional or StylisticSuck if it appears in a video made then or afterward.
5th Sep '17 12:33:49 PM SeptimusHeap
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** Music/{{Sugizo}}[[note]]Also see XJapan[[/note]]

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** Music/{{Sugizo}}[[note]]Also see XJapan[[/note]]Music/XJapan[[/note]]



** It is worth noting, however, that DMC itself is never explicitly referred to as Visual Kei, but their bassist, Jagi, joins a visual band as a side project in one story arc. The band, Karisuma, is portrayed quite differently from DMC, and appears to be based on more recent Visual Kei. [[FridgeBrilliance Could well be an intentional comparison]] between Visual Shock and modern Visual Kei, in that everything from fan behavior to stagecraft has changed and morphed into a form almost unrecognizable from the beginning. [[note]]While this isn't a place for debate on whether those changes were good or bad, just compare an 80s-early 90s video of XJapan or SEIKIMA-II to a more modern one of [[=SuG=]] or Uchuu Sentai Noiz. Also, unlike in Western genres where new generally overtakes old, the old Visual Shock bands and more modern Visual Kei bands tend to co-exist for a variety of reasons - and also tend to share from the same pool of talent.[[/note]]

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** It is worth noting, however, that DMC itself is never explicitly referred to as Visual Kei, but their bassist, Jagi, joins a visual band as a side project in one story arc. The band, Karisuma, is portrayed quite differently from DMC, and appears to be based on more recent Visual Kei. [[FridgeBrilliance Could well be an intentional comparison]] between Visual Shock and modern Visual Kei, in that everything from fan behavior to stagecraft has changed and morphed into a form almost unrecognizable from the beginning. [[note]]While this isn't a place for debate on whether those changes were good or bad, just compare an 80s-early 90s video of XJapan Music/XJapan or SEIKIMA-II to a more modern one of [[=SuG=]] or Uchuu Sentai Noiz. Also, unlike in Western genres where new generally overtakes old, the old Visual Shock bands and more modern Visual Kei bands tend to co-exist for a variety of reasons - and also tend to share from the same pool of talent.[[/note]]
13th Aug '17 2:37:24 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Lolita: As in the UsefulNotes/{{Lolita|Fashion}} style of dress, [[{{Lolicon}} not anything related to the infamous book or its subject material]]. This is harder to define, but the general consensus is that bands in this genre have a more goth-rock influenced sound, although AlternativeRock and PowerMetal also feature in. Some bands may incorporate SymphonicMetal or, in very rare cases, ThrashMetal overtones. The visuals tend to focus on elegance and the costumes are often more OTT than in other subgenres. Also, Lolita musicians are far more likely to deliberately invoke ViewerGenderConfusion, going out of their way to be as feminine as they possibly can be. Anything connected to Mana (including Music/MaliceMizer while he was in that band and ''Moi dix Mois'') is a good example. Music/{{Versailles}} takes some inspiration from this but isn't entirely it.

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* Lolita: As in the UsefulNotes/{{Lolita|Fashion}} style of dress, [[{{Lolicon}} [[LoliconAndShotacon not anything related to the infamous book or its subject material]]. This is harder to define, but the general consensus is that bands in this genre have a more goth-rock influenced sound, although AlternativeRock and PowerMetal also feature in. Some bands may incorporate SymphonicMetal or, in very rare cases, ThrashMetal overtones. The visuals tend to focus on elegance and the costumes are often more OTT than in other subgenres. Also, Lolita musicians are far more likely to deliberately invoke ViewerGenderConfusion, going out of their way to be as feminine as they possibly can be. Anything connected to Mana (including Music/MaliceMizer while he was in that band and ''Moi dix Mois'') is a good example. Music/{{Versailles}} takes some inspiration from this but isn't entirely it.
29th Jul '17 11:51:07 AM Wyldchyld
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* Eroguro Kei: Combines [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence ero and guro together]], in the veins of Music/AliceCooper and Music/MarilynManson taken UpToEleven; a lot of emphasis on both HotterAndSexier and BloodierAndGorier, combining FetishFuel with {{Gorn}}, NauseaFuel and NightmareFuel. cali≠gari is considered to be the pioneer of eroguro kei. Other notable bands include MUCC, Merry, and Music/DirEnGrey was once this before they toned down their visuals (though it didn't take long before they returned to being eroguro with the release of ''UROBOROS''). Music/TheGazette is this all throughout their career.

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* Eroguro Kei: Combines [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence ero and guro together]], in the veins of Music/AliceCooper and Music/MarilynManson taken UpToEleven; a lot of emphasis on both HotterAndSexier and BloodierAndGorier, combining FetishFuel fetishes with {{Gorn}}, NauseaFuel and NightmareFuel. cali≠gari is considered to be the pioneer of eroguro kei. Other notable bands include MUCC, Merry, and Music/DirEnGrey was once this before they toned down their visuals (though it didn't take long before they returned to being eroguro with the release of ''UROBOROS''). Music/TheGazette is this all throughout their career.



* {{Fanservice}}: Pretty much the stock in trade of Visual Kei. Started with the original Visual Shock bands (Music/XJapan and Music/BuckTick are masters of fanservice of various forms, and Music/YoshikiHayashi of Music/XJapan was [[OldShame a worker in a host club at one point early in the band's indies days]]) and whatever form of fanservice you are looking for, it will generally be provided by some Visual Kei band or artist somewhere. Subverted, somewhat, by Lolita artists who do not like to be touched or touch fans, and by Eroguro artists who prefer FanDisservice and/or serving up {{Gorn}}, NightmareFuel and NauseaFuel in equal parts to the FetishFuel.

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* {{Fanservice}}: Pretty much the stock in trade of Visual Kei. Started with the original Visual Shock bands (Music/XJapan and Music/BuckTick are masters of fanservice of various forms, and Music/YoshikiHayashi of Music/XJapan was [[OldShame a worker in a host club at one point early in the band's indies days]]) and whatever form of fanservice you are looking for, it will generally be provided by some Visual Kei band or artist somewhere. Subverted, somewhat, by Lolita artists who do not like to be touched or touch fans, and by Eroguro artists who prefer FanDisservice and/or serving up {{Gorn}}, NightmareFuel and NauseaFuel in equal parts to the FetishFuel.parts.



* NauseaFuel: Some of the imagery produced by Visual Shock, Kote Kei, and Nagoya Kei bands handily qualifies, especially depending on what {{Squick}}s you personally, but this has become the true expertise of Eroguro bands, whose express purpose is creating a mixture of this, FetishFuel, and NightmareFuel - and which are not welcome for discussion here.

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* NauseaFuel: Some of the imagery produced by Visual Shock, Kote Kei, and Nagoya Kei bands handily qualifies, especially depending on what {{Squick}}s you personally, but this has become the true expertise of Eroguro bands, whose express purpose is creating a mixture of this, FetishFuel, fetishisation, and NightmareFuel - and which are not welcome for discussion here.
29th May '17 6:29:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* PuttingOnTheReich: Unfortunately common in early Visual Shock and in some other bands, though becoming less so over time as bands tour in countries where NoSwastikas has the force of law, get negative feedback for Nazi-themed costuming from fans, and as some educate themselves. Some artists have been direct aversions of this: Music/{{Sugizo}} in particular is known for his anti-fascism, left-leaning political views, and disgust with glorifying ImperialJapan or UsefulNotes/NaziGermany.

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* PuttingOnTheReich: Unfortunately common in early Visual Shock and in some other bands, though becoming less so over time as bands tour in countries where NoSwastikas has the force of law, get negative feedback for Nazi-themed costuming from fans, and as some educate themselves. Some artists have been direct aversions of this: Music/{{Sugizo}} in particular is known for his anti-fascism, left-leaning political views, and disgust with glorifying ImperialJapan UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan or UsefulNotes/NaziGermany.
28th May '17 2:51:38 PM nombretomado
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* {{Vocaloid}}, arguably. Some Vocaloid characters are directly based on and voiced by ''actual'' Visual artists, notable examples include Gakupo (designed after and voiced by {{Gackt}}) and Lily (designed after and voiced by Yuri of m.o.v.e.)

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* {{Vocaloid}}, Music/{{Vocaloid}}, arguably. Some Vocaloid characters are directly based on and voiced by ''actual'' Visual artists, notable examples include Gakupo (designed after and voiced by {{Gackt}}) Music/{{Gackt}}) and Lily (designed after and voiced by Yuri of m.o.v.e.)
18th May '17 8:39:58 AM hollowcity
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* Music/DADAROMA

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* Music/Mejibray

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* Music/Morrigan

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* Music/Vexent

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18th May '17 8:38:07 AM hollowcity
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30th Mar '17 11:26:51 PM jormis29
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* "Oresama," a semi-autobiographical fictional piece written by Music/{{Miyavi}} and including him.

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* "Oresama," ''Film/{{Oresama}}'', a semi-autobiographical fictional piece written by Music/{{Miyavi}} and including him.
27th Feb '17 7:06:14 PM nombretomado
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** In the Western fandom, there are the (usually LiveJournal based, but they're possible anywhere that allows anonymous commenting on a post) "hate memes" which consist of anonymous commenters (many of whom are actually sockpuppets of each other) trashing people they hate. Unlike Tanuki, these tend to target fans and fandom people as much as they do active artists, and posts are often even more grudgy than Tanuki or the like, because even the pretense of the discussion being anything but a bash-fest is gone.

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** In the Western fandom, there are the (usually LiveJournal Website/LiveJournal based, but they're possible anywhere that allows anonymous commenting on a post) "hate memes" which consist of anonymous commenters (many of whom are actually sockpuppets of each other) trashing people they hate. Unlike Tanuki, these tend to target fans and fandom people as much as they do active artists, and posts are often even more grudgy than Tanuki or the like, because even the pretense of the discussion being anything but a bash-fest is gone.
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