History Main / VirginityMakesYouStupid

14th Jan '17 10:08:55 PM WaterBlap
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This trope is the reverse of the virgin as portrayed in classical literature. In ancient myths, virgins were often dedicated to some higher purpose. They were supposed to be above such things as lust and passion, upheld as an example that people should strive to follow… and if they fell from this pedestal, boy, did they fall hard. Just ask [[ClassicalMythology the goddess Artemis' attendants]]; if they gave in to the pleasures of the flesh, there was a world of hurt in store when the Boss Lady found out.

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This trope is the reverse of the virgin as portrayed in classical literature. In ancient myths, virgins were often dedicated to some higher purpose. They were supposed to be above such things as lust and passion, upheld as an example that people should strive to follow… and if they fell from this pedestal, boy, did they fall hard. Just ask [[ClassicalMythology [[Myth/ClassicalMythology the goddess Artemis' attendants]]; if they gave in to the pleasures of the flesh, there was a world of hurt in store when the Boss Lady found out.
8th Jan '17 6:12:42 AM SeptimusHeap
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** T.H. White's ''Literature/TheOnceAndFutureKing'' has Gawaine and his brothers, while children, pull a servant girl from the kitchen to use as bait to catch a unicorn. It works, but Agravaine ends up killing the unicorn because of his... [[FreudWasRight issues with his mother]].

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** T.H. White's ''Literature/TheOnceAndFutureKing'' has Gawaine and his brothers, while children, pull a servant girl from the kitchen to use as bait to catch a unicorn. It works, but Agravaine ends up killing the unicorn because of his... [[FreudWasRight [[MommyIssues issues with his mother]].
31st Dec '16 4:20:34 AM AgProv
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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens [[note]]And, sdeemingly, [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton one recent U.S. President[[/note]] interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal intercourse with no protection because in their minds, it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy (and thus they're still "virgins"). The transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.

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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens [[note]]And, sdeemingly, seemingly, [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton one recent U.S. President[[/note]] President]][[/note]] interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal intercourse with no protection because in their minds, it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy (and thus they're still "virgins"). The transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.
31st Dec '16 4:20:07 AM AgProv
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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal intercourse with no protection because in their minds, it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy (and thus they're still "virgins"). The transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.

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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens [[note]]And, sdeemingly, [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton one recent U.S. President[[/note]] interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal intercourse with no protection because in their minds, it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy (and thus they're still "virgins"). The transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.
21st Dec '16 3:37:19 PM Discar
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But sometime in the 20th century, there has been a sharp reversal. Virginity no longer guarantees VirginPower or some higher knowledge; in fact, it often indicates the opposite. Many contemporary characters who are still virgins over the age of consent will be TheDitz. The men will be shy to the point of social ineptitude--or so desperate to [[AManIsNotAVirgin prove their manhood]] that they [[DoggedNiceGuy make idiots of themselves]]. By contrast, female virgins are usually portrayed as hopelessly dim, both in terms of intelligence and social skills. At best, such characters may be good at their jobs and/or book smart, but [[NaiveEverygirl naive to the point of ignorance]]--remember, this trope often overlaps with TheIngenue.

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But sometime in the 20th century, there has been a sharp reversal. Virginity no longer guarantees VirginPower or some higher knowledge; in fact, it often indicates the opposite. Many contemporary characters who are still virgins over the age of consent will be TheDitz. The men will be shy to the point of social ineptitude--or so desperate to [[AManIsNotAVirgin prove their manhood]] manhood that they [[DoggedNiceGuy make idiots of themselves]]. By contrast, female virgins are usually portrayed as hopelessly dim, both in terms of intelligence and social skills. At best, such characters may be good at their jobs and/or book smart, but [[NaiveEverygirl naive to the point of ignorance]]--remember, this trope often overlaps with TheIngenue.



See also: MyGirlIsNotASlut and AManIsNotAVirgin. In the context of musical theatre, this character will ''always'' be TheSoprano or a TenorBoy (frequently called a "dolt-boy"). Compare InnocentBigot and InnocentlyInsensitive; contrast VirginPower and CelibateEccentricGenius. Exceptions to the "nice-but-dim" virgin rule occur when there is a ChasteHero or AmazonBrigade running the show--even then, expect their virginity to be challenged (and more likely than not, relinquished) at some point in the plot. Also see {{Asexuality}} for portrayals of characters who genuinely ''don't want'' sex.

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See also: MyGirlIsNotASlut and AManIsNotAVirgin.MyGirlIsNotASlut. In the context of musical theatre, this character will ''always'' be TheSoprano or a TenorBoy (frequently called a "dolt-boy"). Compare InnocentBigot and InnocentlyInsensitive; contrast VirginPower and CelibateEccentricGenius. Exceptions to the "nice-but-dim" virgin rule occur when there is a ChasteHero or AmazonBrigade running the show--even then, expect their virginity to be challenged (and more likely than not, relinquished) at some point in the plot. Also see {{Asexuality}} for portrayals of characters who genuinely ''don't want'' sex.



* ''Film/TheFortyYearOldVirgin'' plays with this trope; Andy is definitely a bit of a naive {{Manchild}}, and the plot of the story revolves around his [[AManIsNotAVirgin quest to get rid of his virginity]], but the story gradually makes clear that he's actually a lot more well-adjusted, mature and sensible than many of the more 'experienced' men and women around him. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped ...and the moral is..]].

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* ''Film/TheFortyYearOldVirgin'' plays with this trope; Andy is definitely a bit of a naive {{Manchild}}, and the plot of the story revolves around his [[AManIsNotAVirgin [[QuestForSex quest to get rid of his virginity]], but the story gradually makes clear that he's actually a lot more well-adjusted, mature and sensible than many of the more 'experienced' men and women around him. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped ...and the moral is..]].
5th Dec '16 9:52:55 PM Phys101
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* In ''Film/HocusPocus'', the main character is a virgin and no one in the film ever lets him forget it. The term is practically interchangeable with "idiot" from the way everyone talks. [[TooDumbToLive And he lit the candle that virgins were explicitly not supposed to light]].

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* In ''Film/HocusPocus'', the main character is a virgin and no one in the film ever lets him forget it. The term is practically interchangeable with "idiot" from the way everyone talks. [[TooDumbToLive And he lit the candle that virgins were explicitly not supposed to light]]. The rare (if not unique) situation where VirginityMakesYouStupid and NatureAbhorsAVirgin both go hand-in-hand with the usually contrasting VirginPower: it takes a virgin to resurrect the {{Wicked Witch}}es.
1st Dec '16 12:10:31 PM Morgenthaler
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* Averted in Creator/RobertEHoward's ''SolomonKane'' stories. The eponymous character is a BadAss who will [[KnightTemplar pursue evil-doers across oceans]], but is a devout Puritan who doesn't frolic with the ladies. (This might explain why he's not as well known as Howard's other creation Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian.)

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* Averted in Creator/RobertEHoward's ''SolomonKane'' stories. The eponymous character is a BadAss badass who will [[KnightTemplar pursue evil-doers across oceans]], but is a devout Puritan who doesn't frolic with the ladies. (This might explain why he's not as well known as Howard's other creation Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian.)
1st Nov '16 7:18:55 AM Terwanuli
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On the upside, these characters will seldom be downright nasty. While some virgins are inept-but-harmless, most are examples of DumbIsGood. They're usually [[NiceGuy sweet-natured and kind]]--you just wouldn't want them on your quiz team. In fact, their pleasant demeanor is one of the qualities that makes the opposite sex ([[EvenTheGuysWantHim and sometimes the same sex]]) ''[[NatureAdoresAVirgin want]]'' to sleep with them, whether it's because they appreciate these nice qualities… [[ForbiddenFruit or because they can't resist the challenge of deflowering an "innocent"]].

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On the upside, these characters will seldom be downright nasty. While some virgins are inept-but-harmless, most are examples of DumbIsGood. They're usually [[NiceGuy sweet-natured and kind]]--you just wouldn't want them on your quiz team. In fact, their pleasant demeanor is one of the qualities that makes the opposite sex gender ([[EvenTheGuysWantHim and sometimes sometimes]] [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer the same sex]]) gender]]) ''[[NatureAdoresAVirgin want]]'' to sleep with them, whether it's because they appreciate these nice qualities… [[ForbiddenFruit or because they can't resist the challenge of deflowering an "innocent"]].
29th Sep '16 9:23:17 AM Berrenta
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* [[{{Jerkass}} The commenters]] of ''Website/SixBillionSecrets'' tend to believe this.
14th Sep '16 6:02:03 AM DesertDragon
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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal contact with no protection because it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy, though the transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.

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* In many conservative regions, teenagers (especially girls) are often encouraged by their schools and churches to take "virginity pledges" promising not to have sex until they're married. However, many teens interpret this to mean that penis-in-vagina intercourse is the ''only'' thing that counts as sex, meaning they proceed to have oral and anal contact intercourse with no protection because in their minds, it isn't sex if there's no chance of pregnancy, though the pregnancy (and thus they're still "virgins"). The transmission of STD's would suggest otherwise.
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