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27th Apr '16 9:42:19 AM MsChibi
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But sometime in the 20th century, there has been a sharp reversal. Virginity no longer guarantees VirginPower or some higher knowledge; in fact, it often indicates the opposite. Many contemporary characters who are still virgins over the age of consent will be TheDitz. The men will be shy to the point of social ineptitude -- or so desperate to [[AManIsNotAVirgin prove their manhood]] that they make idiots of themselves. By contrast, female virgins are usually portrayed as hopelessly dim, both in terms of intelligence and social skills. At best, such characters may be good at their jobs and/or book smart, but naive to the point of ignorance (remember, this trope often overlaps with TheIngenue).

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But sometime in the 20th century, there has been a sharp reversal. Virginity no longer guarantees VirginPower or some higher knowledge; in fact, it often indicates the opposite. Many contemporary characters who are still virgins over the age of consent will be TheDitz. The men will be shy to the point of social ineptitude -- or so desperate to [[AManIsNotAVirgin prove their manhood]] that they [[DoggedNiceGuy make idiots of themselves.themselves]]. By contrast, female virgins are usually portrayed as hopelessly dim, both in terms of intelligence and social skills. At best, such characters may be good at their jobs and/or book smart, but [[NaiveEverygirl naive to the point of ignorance ignorance]] (remember, this trope often overlaps with TheIngenue).
27th Apr '16 9:40:56 AM MsChibi
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This trope is the reverse of the virgin as portrayed in classical literature. In ancient myths, virgins were often dedicated to some higher purpose. They were supposed to be above such things as lust and passion, upheld as an example that people should strive to follow... and if they fell from this pedestal, boy, did they fall hard. Just ask the goddess Artemis' attendants; if they gave in to the pleasures of the flesh, there was a world of hurt in store when the Boss Lady found out.

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This trope is the reverse of the virgin as portrayed in classical literature. In ancient myths, virgins were often dedicated to some higher purpose. They were supposed to be above such things as lust and passion, upheld as an example that people should strive to follow... and if they fell from this pedestal, boy, did they fall hard. Just ask [[ClassicalMythology the goddess Artemis' attendants; attendants]]; if they gave in to the pleasures of the flesh, there was a world of hurt in store when the Boss Lady found out.
8th Mar '16 2:46:01 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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See also: MyGirlIsNotASlut and AManIsNotAVirgin. In the context of musical theatre, this character will ALWAYS be TheSoprano or a TenorBoy (frequently called a "dolt-boy"). Compare InnocentBigot and InnocentlyInsensitive; contrast VirginPower. Exceptions to the "nice-but-dim" virgin rule occur when there is a ChasteHero or AmazonBrigade running the show - even then, expect their virginity to be challenged (and more likely than not, relinquished) at some point in the plot. Also see {{Asexuality}} for portrayals of characters who genuinely don't want sex.

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See also: MyGirlIsNotASlut and AManIsNotAVirgin. In the context of musical theatre, this character will ALWAYS be TheSoprano or a TenorBoy (frequently called a "dolt-boy"). Compare InnocentBigot and InnocentlyInsensitive; contrast VirginPower.VirginPower and CelibateEccentricGenius. Exceptions to the "nice-but-dim" virgin rule occur when there is a ChasteHero or AmazonBrigade running the show - even then, expect their virginity to be challenged (and more likely than not, relinquished) at some point in the plot. Also see {{Asexuality}} for portrayals of characters who genuinely don't want sex.
4th Mar '16 3:13:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* The plot of ''Film/{{Legend}}'' is kicked off when [[TheHero Jack]] takes virginal but headstrong and foolish Lili to see unicorns, which she just ''has'' to touch despite Jack's protest to the contrary. That contact sullied the unicorn enough to let the minions of Darkness take its horn. She does show enough smarts later to [[spoiler:trick the devil and save the unicorn from him,]] though it's arguable whether or not the fact that he tries (and nearly succeeds) in seducing her counts...

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* The plot of ''Film/{{Legend}}'' ''Film/{{Legend 1985}}'' is kicked off when [[TheHero Jack]] takes virginal but headstrong and foolish Lili to see unicorns, which she just ''has'' to touch despite Jack's protest to the contrary. That contact sullied the unicorn enough to let the minions of Darkness take its horn. She does show enough smarts later to [[spoiler:trick the devil and save the unicorn from him,]] though it's arguable whether or not the fact that he tries (and nearly succeeds) in seducing her counts...
10th Aug '15 9:29:11 PM BattleMaster
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** Subverted in one of Creator/AlanDeanFoster's Spellsinger books - it doesn't work, because the unicorn in question is both gay and apparently not too enchanted with humans.
*** Also, the human girl they attempted to use to summon the unicorn was a streetwise orphan who was definitely not stupid.

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** Subverted in one of Creator/AlanDeanFoster's Spellsinger books - it doesn't work, because the unicorn in question is both gay and apparently not too enchanted with humans.
*** Also, the human girl they attempted to use to summon the unicorn was a streetwise orphan who was definitely not stupid.
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25th May '15 7:11:58 AM erforce
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* The virgin of the 'heroines' in ''Film/{{Hostel}} II'' is flaky, socially awkward due to anxieties, emotionally immature and lacking common sense. It doesn't even take a Casanova; a little alcohol and desperation for acceptance lubricates her path to [[spoiler:DeathBySex.]]

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* The virgin of the 'heroines' in ''Film/{{Hostel}} II'' ''Film/HostelPartII'' is flaky, socially awkward due to anxieties, emotionally immature and lacking common sense. It doesn't even take a Casanova; a little alcohol and desperation for acceptance lubricates her path to [[spoiler:DeathBySex.]]



* In the 1987 movie version of ''Franchise/{{Dragnet}}'', to some extent Joe Friday and Connie Swail, although it's more them being incredibly old-fashioned and uptight than idiotic.

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* In the 1987 movie version of ''Franchise/{{Dragnet}}'', ''Film/{{Dragnet}}'', to some extent Joe Friday and Connie Swail, although it's more them being incredibly old-fashioned and uptight than idiotic.
22nd May '15 12:24:47 PM zarpaulus
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* Matt of ''Webcomic/{{Concession}}'' almost seems to gain 20 IQ points after hooking up with Joel. Most likely related to how badly [[TransparentCloset closeted he was]] before then.

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* Matt of ''Webcomic/{{Concession}}'' almost seems to gain 20 IQ points after hooking up with Joel. Most likely related to how badly [[TransparentCloset closeted closeted]] he was]] was before then.



* Played straight and subverted at the same time with Norman Gates from ''PoisonedMinds'', [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20020208.html as told in this strip.]] He's a dumb brute, but certianly not innocent. He just seems to genuinely lack those particular cravings, being busy spreading chaos and destruction instead.

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* Played straight and subverted at the same time with Norman Gates from ''PoisonedMinds'', ''Webcomic/{{SSDD}}'', [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20020208.html as told in this strip.]] He's a dumb brute, but certianly not innocent. He just seems to genuinely lack those particular cravings, being busy spreading chaos and destruction instead.


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* In ''Webcomic/FauxPas'' Randy is portrayed as incredibly naive for the first [[LongRunner decade]] or so of the strip, especially in regards to sex, his entire knowledge of which comes from soap operas and specific to humans, he and his girlfriend Cindy being foxes. But, after his and Cindy's "honeymoon" he suddenly seems a lot more level headed and actually acts as a bit of a mentor to NaiveNewcomer Hubert.
5th Apr '15 7:17:38 PM nombretomado
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* In the second episode of ''DrawnTogether'', [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess Clara]] is revealed to be not only a virgin but also hopelessly naive and ignorant about sex, a fact which the [[ReallyGetsAround oversexed]] [[SassyBlackWoman Foxxy Love]] is completely unable to grasp.

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* In the second episode of ''DrawnTogether'', ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess Clara]] is revealed to be not only a virgin but also hopelessly naive and ignorant about sex, a fact which the [[ReallyGetsAround oversexed]] [[SassyBlackWoman Foxxy Love]] is completely unable to grasp.



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30th Mar '15 1:22:44 PM catmuto
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* ''Manga/FutariEcchi'' has main-couple Makoto and Yura who were both virgins until they got married to each other at ChristmasCake age, though them being portrayed as stupid is more PlayedForLaughs and generally done by their close relatives because they waited so long.
12th Mar '15 7:01:11 PM merotoker
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It's this plot line that showcases VirginityMakesYouStupid at its worst. A conniving [[TheVamp Vamp]] or [[TheCasanova Casanova]] sets themselves the challenge of sleeping with someone previously thought as pure, untouchable, [[TheIngenue naive]]. And their target will almost always fall for it, even when [[WhatAnIdiot anyone with two functioning brain cells could spot their intentions from a mile away]].

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It's this plot line that showcases VirginityMakesYouStupid Virginity Makes You Stupid at its worst. A conniving [[TheVamp Vamp]] or [[TheCasanova Casanova]] sets themselves the challenge of sleeping with someone previously thought as pure, untouchable, [[TheIngenue naive]]. And their target will almost always fall for it, even when [[WhatAnIdiot anyone with two functioning brain cells could spot their intentions from a mile away]].



* Inverted in ''{{Hellsing}}'' with Sir Integra, holder of "100% virgin blood", yet portrayed as intelligent, highly competent, downright badass and ruthless.

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* Inverted in ''{{Hellsing}}'' ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' with Sir Integra, holder of "100% virgin blood", yet portrayed as intelligent, highly competent, downright badass and ruthless.



* Inverted a little too far by ''GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex 2nd Gig''. The amoral {{Chessmaster}} BigBad [[spoiler:Gohda]] reveals he's actually a virgin. [[spoiler:He used virginity as the final necessary trigger for activating the Individual Eleven virus in a subject, since the trigger for the virus was having been a virgin before switching to cybernetic body, and besides a cyber brain Gohda is still a flesh and blood human.]]
* A rare male example is Sagara Sousuke from ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''. He is ''[[ChasteHero very]]'' [[ChasteHero obviously a virgin]], and... he is ''incredibly'' stupid when it comes to relationships, being socially inept. However, he is extremely competent when it comes to military combat, and is a teen genius when it comes to handling the HumongousMecha AS. In fact, it's even {{lampshaded}} in-series by [[ChivalrousPervert Kurz]], who calls Sousuke numerous times as being a "gutless, stupid virgin" - something which Sousuke [[ChasteHero only vaguely understands as probably being an insult]].

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* Inverted a little too far by ''GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex 2nd Gig''. The amoral {{Chessmaster}} [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] BigBad [[spoiler:Gohda]] reveals he's actually a virgin. [[spoiler:He used virginity as the final necessary trigger for activating the Individual Eleven virus in a subject, since the trigger for the virus was having been a virgin before switching to cybernetic body, and besides a cyber brain Gohda is still a flesh and blood human.]]
* A rare male example is Sagara Sousuke from ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''. He is ''[[ChasteHero very]]'' [[ChasteHero obviously a virgin]], and... he is ''incredibly'' stupid when it comes to relationships, being socially inept. However, he is extremely competent when it comes to military combat, and is a teen genius when it comes to handling the HumongousMecha AS. In fact, it's even {{lampshaded}} {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in-series by [[ChivalrousPervert Kurz]], who calls Sousuke numerous times as being a "gutless, stupid virgin" - something which Sousuke [[ChasteHero only vaguely understands as probably being an insult]].



* ''BGataHKei'' is what happens when the IVOS heroine is ''also'' a LovableSexManiac.
* Goku from ''{{Dragonball}}'' accepts a proposal, believing marriage is a form of food. HilarityEnsues when he grows up.

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* ''BGataHKei'' ''Manga/BGataHKei'' is what happens when the IVOS heroine is ''also'' a LovableSexManiac.
* Goku from ''{{Dragonball}}'' ''Franchise/{{Dragonball}}'' accepts a proposal, believing marriage is a form of food. HilarityEnsues when he grows up.



* Miaka from ''FushigiYuugi''
* ''PandoraHearts'' offers a hysterical subversion of the standard plot with Ada and [[spoiler:Vincent]]. The ManipulativeBastard and {{The Casanova}}'s thoughts directly reveal he finds her innocence sickening and only wants to see her tainted. When he asks her to 'lay herself bare' and 'show him the real her', she nervously agrees and leads him to an unused home of her family's only to reveal she didn't pick up on the sexual implications ''at all''; rather, what she shows him is the "[[YanDere real her]]": [[spoiler:an obsession with magic, darkness, ''and torture'']]. Needless to say, poor [[spoiler:Vincent]] is too shocked (and annoyed) to bother going through with his plans for the time.
* At least once in ''CodeGeass'', C.C. calls Lelouch a "stupid virgin" (which was changed in the English dub). Lelouch is actually [[MagnificentBastard very intelligent]] under most circumstances, but in that situation C.C. was criticizing him for letting his feelings for a girl jeopardize his overall plans.
* While Keith Goodman's {{ditz}}iness and [[ChasteHero chasteness]] have occasionally been demonstrated, the fourth ''TigerAndBunny Drama CD'' just how phenomenally dense he is when it comes to sex: he invites [[ShrinkingViolet Ivan]] to a rather risque gay club. That he goes to regularly. ''Completely oblivious to the fact that it's a gay club.''

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* Miaka from ''FushigiYuugi''
''Manga/FushigiYuugi''
* ''PandoraHearts'' ''Manga/PandoraHearts'' offers a hysterical subversion of the standard plot with Ada and [[spoiler:Vincent]]. The ManipulativeBastard and {{The Casanova}}'s thoughts directly reveal he finds her innocence sickening and only wants to see her tainted. When he asks her to 'lay herself bare' and 'show him the real her', she nervously agrees and leads him to an unused home of her family's only to reveal she didn't pick up on the sexual implications ''at all''; rather, what she shows him is the "[[YanDere real her]]": [[spoiler:an obsession with magic, darkness, ''and torture'']]. Needless to say, poor [[spoiler:Vincent]] is too shocked (and annoyed) to bother going through with his plans for the time.
* At least once in ''CodeGeass'', ''Anime/CodeGeass'', C.C. calls Lelouch a "stupid virgin" (which was changed in the English dub). Lelouch is actually [[MagnificentBastard very intelligent]] under most circumstances, but in that situation C.C. was criticizing him for letting his feelings for a girl jeopardize his overall plans.
* While Keith Goodman's {{ditz}}iness and [[ChasteHero chasteness]] have occasionally been demonstrated, the fourth ''TigerAndBunny ''Anime/TigerAndBunny Drama CD'' just how phenomenally dense he is when it comes to sex: he invites [[ShrinkingViolet Ivan]] to a rather risque gay club. That he goes to regularly. ''Completely oblivious to the fact that it's a gay club.''



* Subverted in ''AnatoliaStory''. While Yuri is notably more reserved and shy about sexual matters than the other women of the time period, she is just as much a GuileHero before sleeping with Kail for the first time as after.

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* Subverted in ''AnatoliaStory''.''Manga/AnatoliaStory''. While Yuri is notably more reserved and shy about sexual matters than the other women of the time period, she is just as much a GuileHero before sleeping with Kail for the first time as after.



* In ''{{Asterix}} and Son'', TheFool Obelix, while much more prone to flirting and blushing around lovely girls than Asterix is shown to be, unintentionally reveals that he has no idea how babies are made, still believing in the DeliveryStork despite being in his thirties ([[VagueAge maybe?]]). Asterix, who is much less excited by girls (but implicitly because he's quite experienced), is aghast that he managed to get to his age without ever finding out and promises to [[TheTalk explain the details to him later]]. [[BrickJoke In the final panel]], we catch the tail-end of this explanation, and Obelix earnestly asks [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar what the stork is for, in that case]]. This was after the second writer took over writing, so it's possible it was just his ManChild qualities receiving some {{Flanderization}}.

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* In ''{{Asterix}} ''Comicbook/{{Asterix}} and Son'', TheFool Obelix, while much more prone to flirting and blushing around lovely girls than Asterix is shown to be, unintentionally reveals that he has no idea how babies are made, still believing in the DeliveryStork despite being in his thirties ([[VagueAge maybe?]]). Asterix, who is much less excited by girls (but implicitly because he's quite experienced), is aghast that he managed to get to his age without ever finding out and promises to [[TheTalk explain the details to him later]]. [[BrickJoke In the final panel]], we catch the tail-end of this explanation, and Obelix earnestly asks [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar what the stork is for, in that case]]. This was after the second writer took over writing, so it's possible it was just his ManChild qualities receiving some {{Flanderization}}.



* The plot of ''Film/{{Legend}}'' is kicked off when [[TheHero Jack]] takes virginal but headstrong and foolish Lili to see unicorns, which she just ''has'' to touch despite Jack's protest to the contrary. That contact sullied the unicorn enough to let the minions of Darkness take its horn.
** She does show enough smarts later to [[spoiler:trick the devil and save the unicorn from him,]] though it's arguable whether or not the fact that he tries (and nearly succeeds) in seducing her counts...

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* The plot of ''Film/{{Legend}}'' is kicked off when [[TheHero Jack]] takes virginal but headstrong and foolish Lili to see unicorns, which she just ''has'' to touch despite Jack's protest to the contrary. That contact sullied the unicorn enough to let the minions of Darkness take its horn.
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horn. She does show enough smarts later to [[spoiler:trick the devil and save the unicorn from him,]] though it's arguable whether or not the fact that he tries (and nearly succeeds) in seducing her counts...



* ''Film/ForbiddenPlanet'' explicitly relates to Altaira and a docile tiger to the legendary virgin and unicorn. Sure enough, the tiger turns on Altaira after she loses her virginity, but this turns out to be justified: the apparently [[MisplacedWildlife misplaced Terran animals]] on Altair-4 are completely unnatural creatures.
** She doesn't lose her virginity, just her innocence. But that seems to be enough.

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* ''Film/ForbiddenPlanet'' explicitly relates to Altaira and a docile tiger to the legendary virgin and unicorn. Sure enough, the tiger turns on Altaira after she loses her virginity, but this turns out to be justified: the apparently [[MisplacedWildlife misplaced Terran animals]] on Altair-4 are completely unnatural creatures.
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creatures. She doesn't lose her virginity, just her innocence. But that seems to be enough.



* ''Film/TheFortyYearOldVirgin'' plays with this trope; Andy is definitely a bit of a naive {{Manchild}}, and the plot of the story revolves around his [[AManIsNotAVirgin quest to get rid of his virginity]], but the story gradually makes clear that he's actually a lot more well-adjusted, mature and sensible than many of the more 'experienced' men and women around him.
** [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped ...and the moral is..]].

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* ''Film/TheFortyYearOldVirgin'' plays with this trope; Andy is definitely a bit of a naive {{Manchild}}, and the plot of the story revolves around his [[AManIsNotAVirgin quest to get rid of his virginity]], but the story gradually makes clear that he's actually a lot more well-adjusted, mature and sensible than many of the more 'experienced' men and women around him.
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him. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped ...and the moral is..]].






* Sansa Stark in George R.R. Martin's ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' is a good example of this... [[BreakTheCutie and boy does she pay for it]].

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* Sansa Stark in George R.R. Martin's ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is a good example of this... [[BreakTheCutie and boy does she pay for it]].



* Lady Crysania, Head Cleric of Paladine in the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' books, fits this trope. Though very sophisticated and intelligent, she is also very ignorant of "the real world". Part of this is due to her sheltered upbringing rather than just lack of sexual experience. She does manage to fall in love with Raistlin over the course of the Legends trilogy, resulting in a two-virgins-passing-in-the-night scenario where Raistlin at one point inhabits the healthy, curse-free, and virile body of Fistandandilus. He struggles with urges he's never dealt with before and considers seducing Crysania (who'd likely be more than willing if only he'd make the first move) but backs down, remarking that he knows next to nothing about seduction or lovemaking. Oddly for Raistlin, the possibility that Crysania's implied VirginPower might be necessary to open the Gate comes in a distant second for reasons not to make a move.

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* Lady Crysania, Head Cleric of Paladine in the ''{{Dragonlance}}'' ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'' books, fits this trope. Though very sophisticated and intelligent, she is also very ignorant of "the real world". Part of this is due to her sheltered upbringing rather than just lack of sexual experience. She does manage to fall in love with Raistlin over the course of the Legends trilogy, resulting in a two-virgins-passing-in-the-night scenario where Raistlin at one point inhabits the healthy, curse-free, and virile body of Fistandandilus. He struggles with urges he's never dealt with before and considers seducing Crysania (who'd likely be more than willing if only he'd make the first move) but backs down, remarking that he knows next to nothing about seduction or lovemaking. Oddly for Raistlin, the possibility that Crysania's implied VirginPower might be necessary to open the Gate comes in a distant second for reasons not to make a move.



* Averted in Creator/RobertEHoward's ''SolomonKane'' stories. The eponymous character is a BadAss who will [[KnightTemplar pursue evil-doers across oceans]], but is a devout Puritan who doesn't frolic with the ladies. (This might explain why he's not as well known as Howard's other creation ConanTheBarbarian.)

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* Averted in Creator/RobertEHoward's ''SolomonKane'' stories. The eponymous character is a BadAss who will [[KnightTemplar pursue evil-doers across oceans]], but is a devout Puritan who doesn't frolic with the ladies. (This might explain why he's not as well known as Howard's other creation ConanTheBarbarian.Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian.)



* Warden Ramirez of the ''TheDresdenFiles'', despite all his big talk, is a virgin. He's not exactly naive though, and he's confident and competent enough to be a Warden. Lara Raith is so stunned that she mockingly asks if Dresden brought him as a present for her. He even manages to come out of a White Court house with it intact. Mostly because of the sword and grenades and other killy things.

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* Warden Ramirez of the ''TheDresdenFiles'', ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', despite all his big talk, is a virgin. He's not exactly naive though, and he's confident and competent enough to be a Warden. Lara Raith is so stunned that she mockingly asks if Dresden brought him as a present for her. He even manages to come out of a White Court house with it intact. Mostly because of the sword and grenades and other killy things.



* In MercedesLackey's ''[[Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar By the Sword]]'', the heroine's mother had just enough instinct to avoid falling for a cruel noble with an eye to her estate but otherwise exemplified this trope, thanks to a head stuffed full of romance stories and bad poems.
* Another MercedesLackey novel ''[[TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms The Fairy Godmother]]'' plays with this. Elena may be a virgin, but she's extremely intelligent. It's the [[BrainlessBeauty unicorns who are ditzes]], to the point of annoyance.

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* Creator/MercedesLackey
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In MercedesLackey's ''[[Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar By the Sword]]'', the heroine's mother had just enough instinct to avoid falling for a cruel noble with an eye to her estate but otherwise exemplified this trope, thanks to a head stuffed full of romance stories and bad poems.
* Another MercedesLackey novel ''[[TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms * In ''[[Literature/TalesOfTheFiveHundredKingdoms The Fairy Godmother]]'' plays with this. Elena may be a virgin, but she's extremely intelligent. It's the [[BrainlessBeauty unicorns who are ditzes]], to the point of annoyance.



* This must be a thing in the Arthurian mythos. The prologue to ''TheMistsOfAvalon'' implies this. As Morgaine considers the Blessed Virgin Mary as a possible aspect of the Goddess, she dismisses the idea with "What does a virgin know of the sufferings of mankind?"

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* This must be a thing in the Arthurian mythos. The prologue to ''TheMistsOfAvalon'' ''Literature/TheMistsOfAvalon'' implies this. As Morgaine considers the Blessed Virgin Mary as a possible aspect of the Goddess, she dismisses the idea with "What does a virgin know of the sufferings of mankind?"



** Played with to great effect in "''YoSoyBettyLaFea''": given her awful appearance, her social awkwardness, her nerdiness and her heroine status, you couldn't suspect she wasn't a virgin anymore... until she confesses to her romantic interest after their first night together that her first time was with a boyfriend who did her only because of a bet, and the experience left her so hurt [[NoodleIncident she preferred not to talk about it]]. Too bad [[FindingJudas she didn't learn the lesson then]].
** In its America adaptation ''UglyBetty'', Betty outright told Christina in Season 1 that her boyfriend at the start of the series ([[TheScrappy Walter]]) was the only guy she'd ever "...you know." Christina is kinda grossed out by the idea of Walter-on-Betty sex.
* Janice in ''WaterlooRoad''.

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** Played with to great effect in "''YoSoyBettyLaFea''": "''Series/YoSoyBettyLaFea''": given her awful appearance, her social awkwardness, her nerdiness and her heroine status, you couldn't suspect she wasn't a virgin anymore... until she confesses to her romantic interest after their first night together that her first time was with a boyfriend who did her only because of a bet, and the experience left her so hurt [[NoodleIncident she preferred not to talk about it]]. Too bad [[FindingJudas she didn't learn the lesson then]].
** In its America adaptation ''UglyBetty'', ''Series/UglyBetty'', Betty outright told Christina in Season 1 that her boyfriend at the start of the series ([[TheScrappy Walter]]) was the only guy she'd ever "...you know." Christina is kinda grossed out by the idea of Walter-on-Betty sex.
* Janice in ''WaterlooRoad''.''Series/WaterlooRoad''.



* ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 6'''s final beau Shamara is a rich [[GranolaGirl Granola]] [[TheDitz Ditz]]. Guess what.
** And at the start of 7, after having sex with Larry she's lost all her purity and goodness, and abandons him to find a "real man". While he's tied up. In a room she (accidentally) set on fire. Does having sex with Larry make you evil, or does he simply have a very bad track record?

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* ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 6'''s final beau Shamara is a rich [[GranolaGirl Granola]] [[TheDitz Ditz]]. Guess what.
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what. And at the start of 7, after having sex with Larry she's lost all her purity and goodness, and abandons him to find a "real man". While he's tied up. In a room she (accidentally) set on fire. Does having sex with Larry make you evil, or does he simply have a very bad track record?



* Tends to be played straight in the Franchise/DragonAge universe, most prominently with Alistair in ''[[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Origins]]'' and [[CloudCuckooLander Merrill]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''.

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* Tends to be played straight in the Franchise/DragonAge ''Franchise/DragonAge'' universe, most prominently with Alistair in ''[[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Origins]]'' and [[CloudCuckooLander Merrill]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''.



* The PG version of the ''Vesperia'' example occurs in ''BreathOfFireII''. [[MsFanservice Katt]] is DumbMuscle. [[TheIngenue Nina]] is TheSmartGirl. DoubleSubverted with [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Deis]] / [[DubNameChange Bleu]]; the ReallySevenHundredYearsOld LadyOfBlackMagic who is more than a little bit of a tease. [[NakedFirstImpression Especially more so in the third game]].

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* The PG version of the ''Vesperia'' example occurs in ''BreathOfFireII''.''VideoGame/BreathOfFireII''. [[MsFanservice Katt]] is DumbMuscle. [[TheIngenue Nina]] is TheSmartGirl. DoubleSubverted with [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Deis]] / [[DubNameChange Bleu]]; the ReallySevenHundredYearsOld LadyOfBlackMagic who is more than a little bit of a tease. [[NakedFirstImpression Especially more so in the third game]].



* Played straight and subverted at the same time with Norman Gates from ''Webcomic/PoisonedMinds'', [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20020208.html as told in this strip.]] He's a dumb brute, but certianly not innocent. He just seems to genuinely lack those particular cravings, being busy spreading chaos and destruction instead.

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* Played straight and subverted at the same time with Norman Gates from ''Webcomic/PoisonedMinds'', ''PoisonedMinds'', [[http://www.poisonedminds.com/d/20020208.html as told in this strip.]] He's a dumb brute, but certianly not innocent. He just seems to genuinely lack those particular cravings, being busy spreading chaos and destruction instead.



** Joyce from [[DumbingOfAge The Dumbiverse]] embodies this trope. She's not shown to be ''stupid'', but she is extremely naive and socially inept due to her sheltered, heavily-religious background which winds up informing everything she does.
* Ruby in ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'' fits the book-smart version of this trope. She's a university graduate, and also, when she first appears, a snarky, deconstructive sort of {{ingenue}}. She's also a neurotic virgin who believed someone who told her that a DangerouslyShortSkirt made her look "professional and distinguished," is totally nonplussed to [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/must_put_a_stop_to_this_right_now see two gay men kissing,]] and has [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/now_pucker_up trouble understanding the difference between mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and a kiss.]] Even [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/it_is_complex her speech patterns shift]] from [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/pretty_for_your_date "educated sarcastic"]] to [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/knock_yourself_out "naive pre-teen"]] when she has to deal with matters of love or sex, and [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/whatever_is_on_your_mind the prospect of a kiss]] sends her into an [[HeroicBSOD extended fugue]]. How she got through university with this mindset is unclear; her antipathy to sex ''is'' due to [[FreudianExcuse early trauma]]. However, sharing an apartment with [[CampGay lead character Dillon]] gives her a crash course in reality; [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/that_is_improper her facial expressions]] soon suggest that she understands ''him'' all too well. On the other hand, she also becomes a YaoiFangirl, after which, anything to do with gay male sex scrambles her brain, presumably due to poorly-repressed sexual urges.

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** Joyce from [[DumbingOfAge [[Webcomic/DumbingOfAge The Dumbiverse]] embodies this trope. She's not shown to be ''stupid'', but she is extremely naive and socially inept due to her sheltered, heavily-religious background which winds up informing everything she does.
* Ruby in ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'' fits the book-smart version of this trope. She's a university graduate, and also, when she first appears, a snarky, deconstructive sort of {{ingenue}}.[[TheIngenue ingenue]]. She's also a neurotic virgin who believed someone who told her that a DangerouslyShortSkirt made her look "professional and distinguished," is totally nonplussed to [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/must_put_a_stop_to_this_right_now see two gay men kissing,]] and has [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/now_pucker_up trouble understanding the difference between mouth-to-mouth resuscitation and a kiss.]] Even [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/it_is_complex her speech patterns shift]] from [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/pretty_for_your_date "educated sarcastic"]] to [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/knock_yourself_out "naive pre-teen"]] when she has to deal with matters of love or sex, and [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/whatever_is_on_your_mind the prospect of a kiss]] sends her into an [[HeroicBSOD extended fugue]]. How she got through university with this mindset is unclear; her antipathy to sex ''is'' due to [[FreudianExcuse early trauma]]. However, sharing an apartment with [[CampGay lead character Dillon]] gives her a crash course in reality; [[http://www.stickydillybuns.com/strips-sdb/that_is_improper her facial expressions]] soon suggest that she understands ''him'' all too well. On the other hand, she also becomes a YaoiFangirl, after which, anything to do with gay male sex scrambles her brain, presumably due to poorly-repressed sexual urges.



* [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick "Fucking virgins, man.]] [[HocusPocus Why do we even have them?"]]

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* [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick "Fucking virgins, man.]] [[HocusPocus [[Film/HocusPocus Why do we even have them?"]]



* In ''{{Undergrads}}'', Cal is an amiable dolt who at one point is horrified by the fact that he's gone hours without sex, while virtually all of the other characters are both more intelligent and far less sexually experienced.

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* In ''{{Undergrads}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Undergrads}}'', Cal is an amiable dolt who at one point is horrified by the fact that he's gone hours without sex, while virtually all of the other characters are both more intelligent and far less sexually experienced.



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