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30th Oct '16 7:10:38 AM Anddrix
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* ''Film/AliceInWonderland'': Whenever the Mad Hatter started getting a tad more intense, Johnny Depp's accent changes to Scottish.

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* ''Film/AliceInWonderland'': ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'': Whenever the Mad Hatter started getting a tad more intense, Johnny Depp's accent changes to Scottish.
29th Oct '16 11:18:15 AM JohnPrestwick
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The stereotype may have come from existing stereotypes about the Scots and also some TruthInTelevision about Glasgow. Any metropolis in 19th and early 20th century Britain had a lot of urban poverty and crime. But in Glasgow it was compounded by sectarian tensions between the Irish Catholic immigrants and the native Protestants. In the interwar years, the city was notorious for sectarian "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs razor gangs]]". Today, these tensions survive mostly in the rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]], one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, and violence still happens to at least some degree at every game between the two.

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The stereotype may have come from existing stereotypes about the Scots and also some TruthInTelevision about Glasgow. Any metropolis in 19th and early 20th century Britain had a lot of urban poverty and crime. But in Glasgow it was compounded by sectarian tensions between the Irish Catholic immigrants and the native Protestants. In the interwar years, the city was became notorious for sectarian "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs razor gangs]]". gangs]]", (often sectarian) gangs that were armed with knife-like razors. Today, these tensions survive mostly in the main surviving case of sectarian tension is the rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]], one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, and violence still happens to at least some degree at every game between the two.



Notably, there are at least two fighting tropes [[TropeNamer named after the city]]. The Glasgow Kiss is not to be confused with a GlasgowGrin, which is when somebody's cheek is sliced open from corners of the mouth; in the past there were groups of thugs called "razor gangs" who used razors to slice people's faces in fights (this was a time when hanging was still in use, so [[LoopholeAbuse using a firearm was a no-no]]). It's worth mentioning that the royal motto of Scotland is "nemo me impune lacessit", Latin for "nobody attacks me with impunity".

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Notably, there are at least two fighting tropes [[TropeNamer named after the city]]. The Glasgow Kiss is not to be confused with a GlasgowGrin, which is when somebody's cheek is sliced open from corners of the mouth; in mouth, something the past there were groups of thugs called "razor gangs" who used razors original razor gangs and more recent deliquents did to slice people's faces in fights (this was a time when hanging was still in use, so [[LoopholeAbuse using a firearm was a no-no]]).their enemies. It's worth mentioning that the royal motto of Scotland is "nemo me impune lacessit", Latin for "nobody attacks me with impunity".
26th Oct '16 11:26:10 AM JohnPrestwick
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A connected stereotype is the "Ned" -- a young Glaswegian hooligan who wears tilted-up baseball caps, lots of gold bling and tracksuits, travels in packs, drinks [[BoozeBasedBuff Buckfast]][[note]]A tonic wine, popular in Scotland for binge drinking[[/note]] by the gallon, and is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLfr1EP08 impossible to understand.]] This is a counterpart to the English "chav" stereotype.

The stereotype may have come from existing stereotypes about the Scots and also some TruthInTelevision about Glasgow. Any metropolis in 19th and early 20th century Britain had a lot of urban poverty and crime. But in Glasgow it was compounded by sectarian tensions between the Irish Catholic immigrants and the native Protestants. In the interwar years, the city was notorious for sectarian "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs razor gangs]]"[[note]]They were armed with the old-fashioned knife-like type of razor.[[/note]]. Today, the tensions survive mostly in the rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]], one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, and violence still happens to at least some degree of violence at every game between the two.

After World War II, the old problems faded, while new ones sprang up in their place. '60s planners cleared away the original slums, only to build neighbourhoods that aged badly. The former "Workshop of the Empire" was hit hard by industrial decline, perhaps the worst case of any major city in Britain. Its once world-famous shipyards and factories closed. Unemployment and crime rose, and a new street gang scene emerged. Though some neighbourhoods remain deprived to this day, the city as a whole has done much to recovered and its crime rates have fallen greatly. Once the 'Murder Capital of Western Europe', [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police in the last ten years its murder rate has more than halved]].[[note]]You tryin' tae say we're saft or summat? Yer gettin' chibbed fir that![[/note]]

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A connected stereotype is the "Ned" -- a young Glaswegian hooligan who wears tilted-up baseball caps, lots of gold bling and tracksuits, travels in packs, drinks [[BoozeBasedBuff Buckfast]][[note]]A tonic wine, popular in Scotland for among binge drinking[[/note]] drinkers in Scotland[[/note]] by the gallon, and is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLfr1EP08 impossible to understand.]] This is a counterpart to the English "chav" stereotype.

The stereotype may have come from existing stereotypes about the Scots and also some TruthInTelevision about Glasgow. Any metropolis in 19th and early 20th century Britain had a lot of urban poverty and crime. But in Glasgow it was compounded by sectarian tensions between the Irish Catholic immigrants and the native Protestants. In the interwar years, the city was notorious for sectarian "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs razor gangs]]"[[note]]They were armed with the old-fashioned knife-like type of razor.[[/note]]. gangs]]". Today, the these tensions survive mostly in the rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]], one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, and violence still happens to at least some degree of violence at every game between the two.

After World War II, the old problems faded, while new ones sprang up in their place. '60s planners cleared away the original slums, only to build neighbourhoods but the tower blocks and other developments that were built aged badly. The former "Workshop of the Empire" was hit hard by industrial decline, perhaps the worst case of any major city in Britain. Its Factories and once world-famous shipyards and factories closed. Unemployment and crime rose, and a new street gang scene emerged. emerged and the trope stayed alive. Though some neighbourhoods remain deprived to this day, the city as a whole has done much to recovered recover and its crime rates have fallen greatly. Once the 'Murder Capital of Western Europe', [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police in the last ten years its murder rate has more than halved]].[[note]]You tryin' tae say we're saft or summat? Yer gettin' chibbed fir that![[/note]]
26th Oct '16 6:56:52 AM JohnPrestwick
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A connected stereotype is the "Ned" -- a young Glaswegian hooligan who wears tilted-up baseball caps, lots of gold bling and tracksuits, travels in packs, drinks [[BoozeBasedBuff Buckfast]] by the gallon, and is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLfr1EP08 impossible to understand.]]

To some degree, this is TruthInTelevision -- Glasgow is the murder capital of Britain and was until very recently the murder capital of Western Europe (it has now been [[http://www.independent.ie/national-news/limerick-is-now-the-official-murder-capital-of-europe-1353369.html overtaken by Limerick]]). [[note]]You tryin' tae say we're saft or summat? Yer gettin' chibbed fir that![[/note]] It's worth mentioning that the royal motto of Scotland is "nemo me impune lacessit", Latin for "nobody attacks me with impunity". Also worth comparing the ''modi operandorum'' of historical Scottish and English nobles who didn't like each other: English nobles would plot, scheme, intrigue, and generally try to ensure that direct confrontation only [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen took place on the battlefield]], whereas Scottish nobles were usually quite happy to simply walk up to their enemy and stab them right in front of everyone with a "[[PreMortemOneLiner stitch this, Jimmae]]." Also, the sectarian rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]] is one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, leading to at least some degree of violence at every game between the two. That said, Glasgow is also notably one of the friendliest cities in Scotland (a cynic might call this GallowsHumor), especially in contrast to relatively aloof Edinburghers. It is also noticeably better run that most urban areas in the UK, especially, again Edinburgh, which columnist Alan Cochrane called "the worst run city in Europe." Given the [[EpicFail trams scheme]], he was probably right...

Notably, there are at least two fighting tropes [[TropeNamer named after the city]]. The Glasgow Kiss is not to be confused with a GlasgowGrin, which is when somebody's cheek is sliced open from corners of the mouth; in the past there were groups of thugs called "razor gangs" who used razors to slice people's faces in fights (this was a time when hanging was still in use, so [[LoopholeAbuse using a firearm was a no-no]]).

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A connected stereotype is the "Ned" -- a young Glaswegian hooligan who wears tilted-up baseball caps, lots of gold bling and tracksuits, travels in packs, drinks [[BoozeBasedBuff Buckfast]] Buckfast]][[note]]A tonic wine, popular in Scotland for binge drinking[[/note]] by the gallon, and is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNLfr1EP08 impossible to understand.]]

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]] This is a counterpart to the English "chav" stereotype.

The stereotype may have come from existing stereotypes about the Scots and also
some degree, this is TruthInTelevision -- about Glasgow. Any metropolis in 19th and early 20th century Britain had a lot of urban poverty and crime. But in Glasgow is it was compounded by sectarian tensions between the murder capital of Britain Irish Catholic immigrants and the native Protestants. In the interwar years, the city was until very recently notorious for sectarian "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_razor_gangs razor gangs]]"[[note]]They were armed with the murder capital old-fashioned knife-like type of razor.[[/note]]. Today, the tensions survive mostly in the rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]], one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, and violence still happens to at least some degree of violence at every game between the two.

After World War II, the old problems faded, while new ones sprang up in their place. '60s planners cleared away the original slums, only to build neighbourhoods that aged badly. The former "Workshop of the Empire" was hit hard by industrial decline, perhaps the worst case of any major city in Britain. Its once world-famous shipyards and factories closed. Unemployment and crime rose, and a new street gang scene emerged. Though some neighbourhoods remain deprived to this day, the city as a whole has done much to recovered and its crime rates have fallen greatly. Once the 'Murder Capital
of Western Europe (it Europe', [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police in the last ten years its murder rate has now been [[http://www.independent.ie/national-news/limerick-is-now-the-official-murder-capital-of-europe-1353369.html overtaken by Limerick]]). more than halved]].[[note]]You tryin' tae say we're saft or summat? Yer gettin' chibbed fir that![[/note]] It's worth mentioning that the royal motto of Scotland is "nemo me impune lacessit", Latin for "nobody attacks me with impunity". Also worth comparing the ''modi operandorum'' of historical Scottish and English nobles who didn't like each other: English nobles would plot, scheme, intrigue, and generally try to ensure that direct confrontation only [[LetsFightLikeGentlemen took place on the battlefield]], whereas Scottish nobles were usually quite happy to simply walk up to their enemy and stab them right in front of everyone with a "[[PreMortemOneLiner stitch this, Jimmae]]." Also, the sectarian rivalry between [[BritishFootyTeams Rangers and Celtic]] is one of the longest running and ugliest football feuds, leading to at least some degree of violence at every game between the two. That said, that![[/note]]

Glasgow is also notably has a reputation for being one of the friendliest cities in Scotland (a cynic might call this GallowsHumor), especially in contrast to relatively aloof Edinburghers.Edinburgers. It is also noticeably better run that most urban areas in the UK, especially, again Edinburgh, which columnist Alan Cochrane called "the worst run city in Europe." Given the [[EpicFail trams scheme]], he was probably right...

had a point...

Notably, there are at least two fighting tropes [[TropeNamer named after the city]]. The Glasgow Kiss is not to be confused with a GlasgowGrin, which is when somebody's cheek is sliced open from corners of the mouth; in the past there were groups of thugs called "razor gangs" who used razors to slice people's faces in fights (this was a time when hanging was still in use, so [[LoopholeAbuse using a firearm was a no-no]]). \n It's worth mentioning that the royal motto of Scotland is "nemo me impune lacessit", Latin for "nobody attacks me with impunity".
25th Oct '16 9:21:52 AM hoodiecrow
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* Agent 300 in ''Webcomic/Niels'', despite being raised as a high society gentleman, is more than capable of lapsing into this from time to time. His accent meets the requirement only when he's drunk (and he's a silly drunk, not a mean drunk), and his most notable act of violence is when he went on an offscreen RoaringRampageOfRevenge against [[spoiler: Niels for shooting Agent 250]]. He also threatened to break 250's arm if 250 started [[ForeignFanservice stuffing dollar bills into his kilt]].

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* Agent 300 in ''Webcomic/Niels'', ''Webcomic/{{Niels}}'', despite being raised as a high society gentleman, is more than capable of lapsing into this from time to time. His accent meets the requirement only when he's drunk (and he's a silly drunk, not a mean drunk), and his most notable act of violence is when he went on an offscreen RoaringRampageOfRevenge against [[spoiler: Niels for shooting Agent 250]]. He also threatened to break 250's arm if 250 started [[ForeignFanservice stuffing dollar bills into his kilt]].
16th Oct '16 1:52:32 PM nombretomado
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* The [[LizardFolk Bangaas]] from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' speak with thick scottish accents, a [[CharacterizationMarchesOn character trait that was kept on following games]], namely [=FFXII=]'s sequel ''Revenants Wings'' as well as ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2''. The Bangaas' description in the latter reads as follow: ''"Their violent tempers, powerful physique, and love of the battle make them at home on the front lines."'' You could easily consider them a race of [[ViolentGlaswegian Violent Glaswegians]].

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* The [[LizardFolk Bangaas]] from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' speak with thick scottish accents, a [[CharacterizationMarchesOn character trait that was kept on following games]], namely [=FFXII=]'s sequel ''Revenants Wings'' as well as ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2''.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2''. The Bangaas' description in the latter reads as follow: ''"Their violent tempers, powerful physique, and love of the battle make them at home on the front lines."'' You could easily consider them a race of [[ViolentGlaswegian Violent Glaswegians]].
27th Aug '16 5:54:33 PM WillBGood
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* One Castrol motor oil ad campaign has a demented Scot flogging people with a dipstick while uttering his catchphrase "Think wi' yer ''dipstick,'' Jimmy!" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nel4qVTOgg No, really.]]

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* One Castrol motor oil ad campaign has a demented Scot flogging people with a dipstick while uttering his catchphrase "Think wi' yer ''dipstick,'' Jimmy!" Jimmae!" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nel4qVTOgg No, really.]]



* The Piper from Adventures in the Rifle Brigade. More than a century old, lives in a well from which he is summoned by means of a haggis on a fishing line, and his bagpipe causes ear bleeding on non-Commonwealth people and is made with the skin of the last guy who tried to take it from him. Thankfully, he doesn't speak, he just ''stares'' at you. Needless to say, this is a Creator/GarthEnnis comic.

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* The Piper from Adventures in the Rifle Brigade.''ComicBook/AdventuresInTheRifleBrigade''. More than a century old, lives in a well from which he is summoned by means of a haggis on a fishing line, and his bagpipe causes ear bleeding on non-Commonwealth people and is made with the skin of the last guy who tried to take it from him. Thankfully, he doesn't speak, he just ''stares'' at you. Needless to say, this is a Creator/GarthEnnis comic.
6th Aug '16 3:16:49 PM WillKeaton
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* The Demoman from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is a self-proclaimed black Scottish cyclops psychopath. His weapons are grenades, bombs that stick to anything they touch called, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Stickybombs]], and an empty bottle of Scrumpy. See this in his [[http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=app&AppId=997&cc=US "Meet the Team" interview]]. His first three unlockable weapons; yet another kind of bomb, a massive [[CoolSword Claymore]] (which [[EvilWeapon is haunted and craves heads]]) and a shield which allows him to make berserker style charges. His other unlockable weapons include more swords and a high-yield pressure-activated explosive on a stick used as a melee weapon. You may notice a theme here.

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* The Demoman from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' is a self-proclaimed black Scottish cyclops psychopath. His weapons are grenades, bombs that stick to anything they touch called, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Stickybombs]], and an empty bottle of Scrumpy. See this in his [[http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=app&AppId=997&cc=US "Meet the Team" interview]]. interview.]] His first three unlockable weapons; yet another kind of bomb, a massive [[CoolSword Claymore]] (which [[EvilWeapon is haunted and craves heads]]) and a shield which allows him to make berserker style charges. His other unlockable weapons include more swords and a high-yield pressure-activated explosive on a stick used as a melee weapon. You may notice a theme here.
6th Aug '16 3:16:12 PM WillKeaton
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* Series/DoctorWho:

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* [[https://youtu.be/_iYva-JPzLY?t=2m15s "Trouble (The Evil Scotsman Song)"] by The Rockin' Jock

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* [[https://youtu.be/_iYva-JPzLY?t=2m15s "Trouble (The Evil Scotsman Song)"] Song)"]] by The Rockin' Jock
6th Aug '16 3:13:39 PM WillKeaton
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* ''Brighton Belles'', the short-lived TransatlanticEquivalent to ''Series/TheGoldenGirls'', made Sophia's character a Glaswegian, Josephine[[note]]Actually, she grew up in the Highlands, but she had a Glaswegian accent[[/note]]. Not only did Josephine have a nasty temper herself, but her late husband was implied to have been a Glaswegian criminal (in the same way as Sophia's was implied to have be a New York gangster).

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* ''Brighton Belles'', the short-lived TransatlanticEquivalent to ''Series/TheGoldenGirls'', made Sophia's character a Glaswegian, Josephine[[note]]Actually, Josephine.[[note]]Actually, she grew up in the Highlands, but she had a Glaswegian accent[[/note]]. accent.[[/note]] Not only did Josephine have a nasty temper herself, but her late husband was implied to have been a Glaswegian criminal (in the same way as Sophia's was implied to have be a New York gangster).
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