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7th Mar '17 11:35:07 PM Gairyuki
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** Except, in the original Japanese, he does spare his enemies not out of any sort of actual altruistic mercy, but solely out of their ability to provide him a strong opponent to fight.

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** Except, Not quite, since Goku himself never actually learns that lesson in advance of Cell. He throws the original Japanese, fight, even letting Cell have a Senzu Bean, and sics Gohan on him to draw out the latter's power. By the time he does spare realize that killing Cell is a bigger priority, he's forced to sacrifice himself. And, it should be noted that Goku's primary reason for sparing ANY of his enemies enemies, or at least, having the intention to initially, is because of his overwhelming desire for a strong opponent, not out of any sort of actual altruistic mercy, show of mercy or a desire for them to repent. He does prefer that they be good, but solely that's somewhat drowned out of their ability to provide him a strong opponent to fight.by his BloodKnight tendencies.
7th Mar '17 11:27:28 PM Gairyuki
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** Except, in the original Japanese, he does spare his enemies not out of any sort of actual altruistic mercy, but solely out of their ability to provide him a strong opponent to fight.
19th Feb '17 9:49:31 AM SeaRover
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* Even though certain connections with bullying are now a known fabrication by the media, the Columbine High School Massacre still ''was'' responsible for the gradual enactment of anti-bullying policies and laws.
** People in general who commit mass shootings perceive this trope verbatim. While most kids don't have access to guns and only have suicide as a way out, those who do see the deaths of their tormentors as a bonus in the form of retribution before they themselves go out. No sense of basic security, unable to drop out of school until a certain age, many without an option to change schools, their real purpose of going to school in the first place nullified (unable to maintain grades for college, for one thing), too long to await what might not even be any better a future in college, no fulfillment to eke out, and even if life does get better, they still have to live for years on end with everything that happened to them for all those years. These people are beyond any influence of the law and ethics; prison would seem trivial, since they have little to lose in the first place, whatever rules they had abided by had failed them ''chronically'', few had helped them in any meaningful way, there was little they themselves could do to change anything peacefully, and in their minds, even "innocent" people deserve to die for doing so little about their situation. Can you really blame them for seeing the most to gain through their rampages?
19th Feb '17 8:20:15 AM Morgenthaler
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** In all of these situations, Batman was acting in a fundamentally different capacity than his usual TheHunter mode. Batman has rarely been depicted as opposed to lethal force on principle, simply viewing it as DirtyBusiness instead; for example, he doesn't seem to mind police using deadly force when they have no other choice. Because he is not authorized by a governing body to dispense lethal force, he has trained himself to the point that he always has another choice. In all three of these instances, the people were outside of the law's protection already and were treated by Batman as enemy combatants rather than criminals.

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** In all of these situations, Batman was acting in a fundamentally different capacity than his usual TheHunter hunter mode. Batman has rarely been depicted as opposed to lethal force on principle, simply viewing it as DirtyBusiness instead; for example, he doesn't seem to mind police using deadly force when they have no other choice. Because he is not authorized by a governing body to dispense lethal force, he has trained himself to the point that he always has another choice. In all three of these instances, the people were outside of the law's protection already and were treated by Batman as enemy combatants rather than criminals.
3rd Feb '17 9:30:03 AM DocJamore
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* There're some bosses in the pacifist route of Undertale where violence is simply your only option to continue. However, this doesn't mean you can't spare them or show mercy.

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* There're some bosses in the pacifist route of Undertale UnderTale where violence is simply your only option to continue. However, this doesn't mean you can't spare them or show mercy.
24th Dec '16 7:32:51 PM Xoorligan
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* In the Book of Mormon, the Anti-Nephi-Lehi's swore an oath of nonviolence, which results in them being slaughtered by other Lamanites until other Lamanites defend them. Later their children, who did not take the oath, fight in their behave.

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* In the Book of Mormon, the Anti-Nephi-Lehi's swore an oath of nonviolence, which results in them being slaughtered by other Lamanites until other Lamanites defend them. Later their children, who did not take the oath, fight in their behave.behalf.
12th Dec '16 3:00:08 PM FullmetalHeart20
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* There're some bosses in the pacifist route of Undertale where violence is simply your only option to continue. However, this doesn't mean you can't spare them or show mercy.
30th Oct '16 5:44:32 PM trixus
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* Franchise/{{Batman}}, despite his usual ThouShaltNotKill rule has resorted to this on a few occasions when the villain he's fighting can't be safely contained. Not counting several EarlyInstallmentWeirdness stories from UsefulNotes/{{the Golden Age|of Comic Books}} where he killed several villains, the modern era has his original encounter with [=KGBeast=] whom he leaves to drown in the sewers (this is later retconned with the GCPD saving him), enraging Deacon Blackfire's followers into killing him in ''ComicBook/BatmanTheCult'', and him shooting Darkseid during ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis''.

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* Franchise/{{Batman}}, despite his usual ThouShaltNotKill rule has resorted to this on a few occasions when the villain he's fighting can't be safely contained. Not counting several EarlyInstallmentWeirdness stories from UsefulNotes/{{the Golden Age|of Comic Books}} where he killed several villains, the modern era has his original encounter with [=KGBeast=] whom he leaves to drown in the sewers (this is later retconned with the GCPD saving him), enraging Deacon Blackfire's followers into killing him in ''ComicBook/BatmanTheCult'', and him shooting Darkseid during ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis''. Also while he doesn't kill he still use plenty of violence, leaving criminals with broken bones for the police to pick up, apparently he doesn't lie carrying his batcuffs all the time so beaten unconscious it is.
30th Oct '16 4:48:15 PM nombretomado
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* The ''Franchise/HeroFactory: Invasion from Below'' special seems to at first play the "violence is bad" moral straight when Breez calms down the beast queen by offering peace. But, due to a misunderstanding, the beasts attack again, and this time the Heroes have no option but to beat them up, [[spoiler:indirectly killing them]].

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* The ''Franchise/HeroFactory: ''Toys/HeroFactory: Invasion from Below'' special seems to at first play the "violence is bad" moral straight when Breez calms down the beast queen by offering peace. But, due to a misunderstanding, the beasts attack again, and this time the Heroes have no option but to beat them up, [[spoiler:indirectly killing them]].
24th Oct '16 12:05:26 PM Stranrep
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