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18th Jun '16 7:04:23 PM kouta
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** Ironically, the American demographic most vehemently opposed to firearms restrictions (rural white people) tends to really dislike the demographic (urban minorities) those restrictions are usually meant to disarm.
15th Jun '16 3:47:44 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'': In the episode "Bully for Steve," Stan starts bullying Steve relentlessly [[WellIntentionedExtremist in an effort to toughen him up]]. While Francine initially insists that violence isn't the answer, when she finds out that Stan is the one doing the bullying, she quickly changes her mind. Steve ultimately solves the problem by hiring Stan's old childhood bully, [[SchoolyardBullyAllGrownUp Stelio Kontos]], to beat Stan senseless until Stan agrees to stop.
15th Jun '16 3:37:18 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness'': More than once, the members of Tsukune's group advocate violence as a solution to their current problem. And more often than not, it turns out to be ''right'':
** In Act III chapter 7, Dark explicitly warns Tsukune that he ''will'' kill him should Tsukune go anywhere near Mizore, making no secret of the fact that he doesn't trust Tsukune, even with the Holy Lock, to hold the ghoul back when he failed to do so once already. By the next chapter, Tsukune approaches them anyway, hoping to talk things over... and Dark promptly attacks him at full force, [[IWarnedYou telling Tsukune that he should have just heeded his warnings and stayed away]]. However, in the ensuing fight, Dark, along with Mizore and Felucia, who both agreed with him that the Holy Lock was untrustworthy, see firsthand just how strong the chain is and accept that the ghoul is gone.
** In Act IV chapter 3, when Akua and Kahlua point out that they came to Yokai Academy to learn the value of human life, Kurumu tells them outright that, as far as she's concerned, they would have learned it a ''lot'' faster if Tsukune had just let Issa beat the two of them into the ground.
** In Act II, when Kokoa picks a fight with Moka over Tsukune and goes so far as to invoke the Eia Dreahl, punishable by death if broken, to see who would win him, Moka agrees despite her inner self repeatedly insisting that they just beat her senseless and be done with it. Later, in Act IV chapter 13, Outer Moka suggests that they just let her beat the new Falla into the ground.
** During the early part of Act VI, Gabriel repeatedly objects to the gang killing members of the [[MonsterHunterOrganization HDA]], in part because of [[ThouShaltNotKillMuggles the angels' code that humans are sacred and untouchable no matter what]], despite the fact that the [=HDA=] is openly [[VanHelsingHateCrimes anti-monster]] and is actively trying to kill him along with the other members of the gang. Eventually, Ceal gets sick of it and subjects Gabriel to a SadisticChoice, either to kill Ceal himself to stop him from killing an [=HDA=] officer, or to stand back and watch as Ceal does so. Gabriel chooses to TakeAThirdOption by {{Mercy Kill}}ing the officer to spare him a slower and more agonizing death at Ceal's hands, and from that point on, resolves to do whatever it takes to save his friends, even if it means killing the humans he's sworn to protect.


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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance'': In La Cité des Cloches, when Riku asks Esmeralda if Judge Frollo was always [[FantasticRacism an evil bigot]] and and requests to know where he could be located so that he could speak to him, it is subtly implied that Riku intends to try to reason with Frollo, having fallen into the darkness once himself. However, when Riku sees Frollo trying to burn down a villager's home because the inhabitant was suspected of harboring gypsies, he concludes that Frollo is [[MoralEventHorizon beyond saving]] and will have to be stopped by force.
14th Jun '16 12:19:09 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'': During the Saiyan and Frieza Sagas, Goku repeatedly refuses to kill even the most evil of opponents and often spares them, something Vegeta calls him out on after Goku subdues the Ginyu Force only for Vegeta himself to kill them. It comes back to bite him more than once; for example, during the battle with Frieza, despite all of the horrible things Frieza has done, including personally killing Goku's best friend Krillin, Goku spares his life ''twice'', which only prompts Frieza to try to stab him in the back both times. From that point onwards, Goku becomes more willing to kill his opponents, actively trying to kill Cell and openly encouraging Gohan to do the same.
14th May '16 8:35:12 AM BenOfHouston
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* A physical attack on one's person may require the use of violence to stop it.

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* A physical attack on one's person may require the use of violence to stop it. This is the founding principle behind self defense or defense of others. If one is under physical attack, there is often no way to reasonably stop them without violence, so the rules against harming or killing others is suspended because it is absolutely necessary.
9th Apr '16 12:23:21 PM nombretomado
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* In FamilyMatters, Steve Urkel would usually try to find non-violent solutions to problems. Once in a while, though, that wasn't possible, and he would have to turn himself into Bruce Lee.

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* In FamilyMatters, ''Series/FamilyMatters'', Steve Urkel would usually try to find non-violent solutions to problems. Once in a while, though, that wasn't possible, and he would have to turn himself into Bruce Lee.
19th Mar '16 9:51:15 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The entire plot of the film ''Billy Jack''. Becomes a bit of a BrokenAesop when the film keeps trying to insist that the peaceful, nonviolent hippies are in the right, but Billy's freely-dispensed violence is the only thing keeping them from being repeatedly victimized by the town bullies.

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* The entire plot of the film ''Billy Jack''. Becomes a bit of a BrokenAesop when the film keeps trying to insist that the peaceful, nonviolent hippies are in the right, but Billy's Billy Jack's freely-dispensed violence is asskickings are the only thing keeping them from being repeatedly victimized by the town bullies.
20th Feb '16 8:39:43 AM MagBas
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** It should be noted that the real life Gandhi actually ''advocated'' use of violence as a last resort or if the situation was too dire (such as a thug breaking into your house and ripping off the clothes of your wife or daughter to rape her). In other words he preferred nonviolence if possible but was not above using physical force to defend oneself or to attain one's objectives.
*** However, the real life Gandhi '''also''' advocated that the Allies should have surrendered to Nazi Germany rather than let themselves be drawn into fighting WW2 and that the Jews should essentially let themselves be slaughtered, so this isn't that out-of-character for him.



** Somewhat undermined by the fact that he also has been recorded saying that the Allies should have just surrendered to the Nazis rather than let WW2 erupt, and likewise saying that the Jews should either submit to the Nazis, non-violently protest them, or '''commit suicide'''. His entries on SuicidalPacifism and ActualPacifist go into more detail.



** The breakdown in governance in some countries in the Middle East indicates an equally FamilyUnfriendlyAesop--that the only way to keep a bunch of armed people in line is the threat of overwhelming force from above.

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** The breakdown in governance in some countries in the Middle East indicates an equally FamilyUnfriendlyAesop--that that the only way to keep a bunch of armed people in line is the threat of overwhelming force from above.
20th Feb '16 2:01:39 AM WanderingBrowser
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** It should be noted that the real life Gandhi actually ADVOCATED use of violence as a last resort or if the situation was too dire (such as a thug breaking into your house and ripping off the clothes of your wife or daughter to rape her). In other words he preferred nonviolence if possible but was not above using physical force to defend oneself or to attain one's objectives.

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** It should be noted that the real life Gandhi actually ADVOCATED ''advocated'' use of violence as a last resort or if the situation was too dire (such as a thug breaking into your house and ripping off the clothes of your wife or daughter to rape her). In other words he preferred nonviolence if possible but was not above using physical force to defend oneself or to attain one's objectives.
*** However, the real life Gandhi '''also''' advocated that the Allies should have surrendered to Nazi Germany rather than let themselves be drawn into fighting WW2 and that the Jews should essentially let themselves be slaughtered, so this isn't that out-of-character for him.


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** Somewhat undermined by the fact that he also has been recorded saying that the Allies should have just surrendered to the Nazis rather than let WW2 erupt, and likewise saying that the Jews should either submit to the Nazis, non-violently protest them, or '''commit suicide'''. His entries on SuicidalPacifism and ActualPacifist go into more detail.
17th Feb '16 5:10:07 AM Razide
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* This was a big theme of Terry Goodkind's ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' series, particularly Naked Empire, in which the pacifist Bandakar Empire had to be persuaded to fight the invading Order soldiers. The protagonist massacres pacifists "armed only with their hatred of moral clarity". Though it should be noted at the protestors weren't just shouting slogans; they were quite literally occurring the only road the army could use to reach any position from which they could fight effectively. In practical terms, they'd volunteered themselves as [[HumanShield human shields]].

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* This was a big theme of Terry Goodkind's ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' series, particularly Naked Empire, in which the pacifist Bandakar Empire had to be persuaded to fight the invading Order soldiers. The protagonist massacres pacifists "armed only with their hatred of moral clarity". Though it should be noted at that the protestors weren't just shouting slogans; they were quite literally occurring occupying the only road the army could use to reach any position from which they could fight effectively. In practical terms, they'd volunteered themselves as [[HumanShield human shields]].
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