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11th May '18 10:49:01 PM AnotherEpicFail
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* Played with in the case of the [[MegaCorp Orochi Group]] in ''VideoGame/TheSecretWorld.'' Outside the eponymous Secret World, the Group is considered a perfectly respectable corporate entity, providing its employees with [[BetterLivingThroughEvil generous salaries and benefits]], hosting award ceremonies, donating billions to charities, and sponsoring youth programs worldwide; its daughter corporations share in this respect, and are known for producing genuinely beneficial products such as revolutionary drugs and vaccines, life-saving prosthetic organs, alternate energy sources, agricultural methods that increase crop yield a thousandfold, and vat-grown foods that eliminate the need for slaughtered animals. Any criticism heard about the group is largely the province of conspiracy theorists and crackpots - in part because Group subsidiary QBL Media keeps the information carefully. However, ''inside'' the Secret World, Orochi is looked upon with a great deal of suspicion by many of the societies, many of whom distrust the group's attempts to harness magical power - and with very good reason.
30th Apr '18 1:51:25 AM WillBGood
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** Renly Baratheon is one of the [[TheCharmer most charismatic]] and powerful nobleman in the Seven Kingdoms, ruling the Stormlands, however is in private a SleazyPolitician and CorruptBureaucrat, and despite being Master of Laws shows little concern for the law. When his brother King Robert dies he plots to seize power even before Robert is cold, and then marries into the powerful Tyrell family to usurp the crown, before he hears the truth of Joffrey's illegitimacy. This sets him up as a foil to the middle Baratheon brother Stannis, who claims the throne out of a sense of duty, as under Westerosi law Robert having no legitimate children makes Stannis his heir, however his [[PrinciplesZealot strong principles]] and [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]] make him disliked by most of the nobility. Renly, meanwhile, tries claiming the throne largely out of vanity and greed, refusing Stannis' offer to be their heir until Stannis has a son, remain in rule of the Stormlands, and on the Small Council. Renly plans [[CainAndAbel to kill Stannis]] the next day in battle, citing his larger army as justifying him having a better claim then Stannis. [[spoiler:However, Melisandre, a witch who believes Stannis her Messiah, assassinates Renly with blood magic, yet after his death Renly goes through a HistoricalHeroUpgrade, as it is believed his ghost helped defeat Stannis' army and save King's Landing at the Battle of the Blackwater, the new Tyrell-backed regime overlooking the fact he was clearly a traitor.]] Meanwhile, Brienne of Tarth, who was in
[[BodyguardCrush love with Renly]], continues to look on him in a favorable light.

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** Renly Baratheon is one of the [[TheCharmer most charismatic]] and powerful nobleman in the Seven Kingdoms, ruling the Stormlands, however is in private a SleazyPolitician and CorruptBureaucrat, and despite being Master of Laws shows little concern for the law. When his brother King Robert dies he plots to seize power even before Robert is cold, and then marries into the powerful Tyrell family to usurp the crown, before he hears the truth of Joffrey's illegitimacy. This sets him up as a foil to the middle Baratheon brother Stannis, who claims the throne out of a sense of duty, as under Westerosi law Robert having no legitimate children makes Stannis his heir, however his [[PrinciplesZealot strong principles]] and [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]] make him disliked by most of the nobility. Renly, meanwhile, tries claiming the throne largely out of vanity and greed, refusing Stannis' offer to be their heir until Stannis has a son, remain in rule of the Stormlands, and on the Small Council. Renly plans [[CainAndAbel to kill Stannis]] the next day in battle, citing his larger army as justifying him having a better claim then Stannis. [[spoiler:However, Melisandre, a witch who believes Stannis her Messiah, assassinates Renly with blood magic, yet after his death Renly goes through a HistoricalHeroUpgrade, as it is believed his ghost helped defeat Stannis' army and save King's Landing at the Battle of the Blackwater, the new Tyrell-backed regime overlooking the fact he was clearly a traitor.]] Meanwhile, Brienne of Tarth, who was in
in [[BodyguardCrush love with Renly]], continues to look on him in a favorable light.
15th Apr '18 7:10:31 PM lluewhyn
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** Renly Baratheon is one of the [[TheCharmer most charismatic]] and powerful nobleman in the Seven Kingdoms, ruling the Stormlands, however is in private a SleazyPolitician and CorruptBureaucrat, and despite being Master of Laws shows little concern for the law. When his brother King Robert dies he plots to seize power even before Robert is cold, and then marries into the powerful Tyrell family to usurp the crown, before he hears the truth of Joffrey's illegitimacy. This sets him up as a foil to the middle Baratheon brother Stannis, who claims the throne out of a sense of duty, as under Westerosi law Robert having no legitimate children makes Stannis his heir, however his [[PrinciplesZealot strong principles]] and [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]] make him disliked by most of the nobility. Renly, meanwhile, tries claiming the throne largely out of vanity and greed, refusing Stannis' offer to be their heir until Stannis has a son, remain in rule of the Stormlands, and on the Small Council. Renly plans [[CainAndAbel to kill Stannis]] the next day in battle, citing his larger army as justifying him having a better claim then Stannis. [[spoiler:However, Melisandre, a witch who believes Stannis her Messiah, assassinates Renly with blood magic, yet after his death Renly goes through a HistoricalHeroUpgrade, as it is believed his ghost helped defeat Stannis' army and save King's Landing at the Battle of the Blackwater, the new Tyrell-backed regime overlooking the fact he was clearly a traitor.]] Meanwhile, Brienne of Tarth, who was in [[BodyguardCrush love with Renly]], continues to look on him in a favorable light.

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** Renly Baratheon is one of the [[TheCharmer most charismatic]] and powerful nobleman in the Seven Kingdoms, ruling the Stormlands, however is in private a SleazyPolitician and CorruptBureaucrat, and despite being Master of Laws shows little concern for the law. When his brother King Robert dies he plots to seize power even before Robert is cold, and then marries into the powerful Tyrell family to usurp the crown, before he hears the truth of Joffrey's illegitimacy. This sets him up as a foil to the middle Baratheon brother Stannis, who claims the throne out of a sense of duty, as under Westerosi law Robert having no legitimate children makes Stannis his heir, however his [[PrinciplesZealot strong principles]] and [[NoSocialSkills lack of social skills]] make him disliked by most of the nobility. Renly, meanwhile, tries claiming the throne largely out of vanity and greed, refusing Stannis' offer to be their heir until Stannis has a son, remain in rule of the Stormlands, and on the Small Council. Renly plans [[CainAndAbel to kill Stannis]] the next day in battle, citing his larger army as justifying him having a better claim then Stannis. [[spoiler:However, Melisandre, a witch who believes Stannis her Messiah, assassinates Renly with blood magic, yet after his death Renly goes through a HistoricalHeroUpgrade, as it is believed his ghost helped defeat Stannis' army and save King's Landing at the Battle of the Blackwater, the new Tyrell-backed regime overlooking the fact he was clearly a traitor.]] Meanwhile, Brienne of Tarth, who was in in
[[BodyguardCrush love with Renly]], continues to look on him in a favorable light.light.
** The Tyrell family are this as a whole, although their villainy is more ruthlessness than malice. They conspire to marry Margery to ''four'' different Baratheon kings to join their family into royalty. The first, King Robert himself, is the only one where they never got their opportunity as they (along with Renly) were planning to try to get Robert smitten with Margaery before revealing the truth of the incest. When Robert dies before this plot is enacted and Renly declares himself king, they join his cause even knowing he is not the legitimate heir. While fighting for Renly's cause, they seize all food heading up towards King's Landing from the Reach, causing mass starvation and violence. When they decide to throw in with the Lannisters, they then give away food to the poor, who don't realize that the Tyrells are the reason why there was a shortage in the first place. After obtaining Sansa's (a shell-shocked 11-year old) trust, they verify Joffrey's true nature and kill him almost immediately after the ceremony is legalized while also setting up Sansa and Tyrion as patsies. While ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' shows Cersei to be awfully delusional and paranoid to the reader, the truth is that the Tyrells ''really are to blame'' for some of the bad things that have happened to her, and she doesn't suspect them ''enough''.
10th Apr '18 7:28:23 AM Nintendoman01
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*** [[spoiler:Masayoshi Shido]] is this to an absolutely insane degree; almost no one other than the Phantom Thieves and their close associates ever express any negative opinion about him. It gets to the point where even after the Phantom Thieves call [spoiler:Shido]] out in public, and ''he himself'' confesses to their crimes after [[HeelFaceBrainwashing heart is stolen]], the public staunchly refuses to acknowledge that [[spoiler:Shido]] is evil at all. It's only after [[spoiler:the Phantom Thieves steal the general public's heart that they finally see Shido for the CorruptPolitician and [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans power-hungry]] {{Jerkass}} he really is.]]



* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': As revealed in Volume 4, while the rest of Remnant is well aware that the [[WesternTerrorists White Fang]] is evil, Blake's hometown of Menagerie [[LockedOutOfTheLoop does not]] and believe them to still be a mostly peaceful organization; most of them don't even know that the White Fang chapter led by Adam Taurus played an instrumental part in [[spoiler:the invasion of Vale and the destruction of Beacon Academy during the final episodes of Volume 3]]. Two representatives of another White Fang leader, Sienna Khan, are able to avoid suspicion once Blake's parents find out about Adam's actions from her by claiming that the White Fang group led by Adam is actually a RenegadeSplinterFaction and they're trying to track him down and apprehend him; in reality, they work with Adam and can contact him at any time.
** In Volume 5, it's revealed that Adam himself Sienna is seen as a popular symbol amongst the White Fang. Despite the fact that Adam is shown to be cavelier over the loss of Faunus lives in pursuit of Salem's plans, the Vale faction of the White Fang follow him loyally. Adam confirms to Sienna Khan that his Vale followers, and several in Mistral as well, see him as the ''true'' High Leader of the White Fang, not Sienna. [[spoiler:Indeed, Sienna's own personal bodyguards turn on her and do nothing when Adam kills her.]]

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': As revealed in Volume 4, while the rest of Remnant is well aware that the [[WesternTerrorists White Fang]] is evil, Blake's hometown of Menagerie [[LockedOutOfTheLoop does not]] and believe them to still be a mostly peaceful organization; most of them don't even know that the White Fang chapter led by Adam Taurus played an instrumental part in [[spoiler:the invasion of Vale and the destruction of Beacon Academy during the final episodes of Volume 3]]. Two representatives of another White Fang leader, Sienna Khan, are able to avoid suspicion once Blake's parents find out about Adam's actions from her by claiming that the White Fang group led by Adam is actually a RenegadeSplinterFaction and they're trying to track him down and apprehend him; in reality, they work with Adam and can contact him at any time.
time. [[spoiler:It comes to an end in "True Colors," where the Corsac brothers try to kill Blake's parents, the beloved leaders of Menagerie, on Adam's orders; the attempt fails, and also provides just the opportunity Blake needs to rally Menagerie against them.]]
** In Volume 5, it's revealed that Adam himself Sienna is seen as a popular symbol amongst the White Fang. Despite the fact that Adam is shown to be cavelier over the loss of Faunus lives in pursuit of Salem's plans, the Vale faction of the White Fang follow him loyally. Adam confirms to Sienna Khan that his Vale followers, and several in Mistral as well, see him as the ''true'' High Leader of the White Fang, not Sienna. [[spoiler:Indeed, Sienna's own personal bodyguards turn on her and do nothing when Adam kills her.]] That all goes out the window by the end of Volume 5, [[spoiler:when Adam attempts to blow them all up in an attempt to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled deny Blake victory]], and then flat-out bails on them to avoid getting arrested.]]
8th Apr '18 4:00:09 PM KDreader02
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* In ''Webcomic/DrFrost'', Seonghyun Moon is a well renowned and respected psychologist. He even has a decent amount of fans. Too bad he's [[spoiler: a murderer who has pushed people to commit suicide or has had them killed, either for his experiments or to make a point.]]
6th Apr '18 7:34:26 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Fabulous Frank. As an emulator of young Wrestling/JimCornette, a simple still picture of Frank is ''exactly'' what most fans have been conditioned to associate with evil managers and putting one on a jumbo tron will instantly cause crowds to start booing. In truth the fans have never ever trusted Frank. For [[GoodIsDumb some reason]] Frank can always find a new gullible baby face willing to trust him, the state of Florida will not revoke his license and the promotion known as Future Of Wrestling continued to tolerate his presence(outside Florida and FOW Frank's publicity is not universally good).

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* Fabulous Frank. As an emulator of young Wrestling/JimCornette, a simple still picture of Frank is ''exactly'' what most fans have been conditioned to associate with evil managers and putting one on a jumbo tron will instantly cause crowds to start booing. In truth the fans have never ever trusted Frank. For [[GoodIsDumb some reason]] Frank can always find a new gullible baby face {{face}} willing to trust him, the state of Florida will not revoke his license and the promotion known as Future Of Wrestling continued to tolerate his presence(outside Florida and FOW Frank's publicity is not universally good).
6th Apr '18 7:32:57 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* The baby {{face}} vs. baby face, Savio Vega vs Dennis Rivera "feud" in The World Wrestling League, where Rivera was convinced Vega was an example of this trope. To be fair, Dennis was [[CassandraTruth totally right at first]], it was just that the fans were cheering Vega's efforts to screw Heavyweight Champion Glamour Boy Shane by pitting him against such wrestlers as El Mesias and [[Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio El Patron Alberto]]. But then El Patron joined the newly formed Gentlemen's Club [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and Vega was fired,]] so Savio [[HeelFaceTurn was no longer an example when he returned.]]

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* Fabulous Frank. As an emulator of young Wrestling/JimCornette, a simple still picture of Frank is ''exactly'' what most fans have been conditioned to associate with evil managers and putting one on a jumbo tron will instantly cause crowds to start booing. In truth the fans have never ever trusted Frank. For [[GoodIsDumb some reason]] Frank can always find a new gullible baby face willing to trust him, the state of Florida will not revoke his license and the promotion known as Future Of Wrestling continued to tolerate his presence(outside Florida and FOW Frank's publicity is not universally good).
* The baby {{face}} face vs. [[GoodVsGood baby face, face]], Savio Vega vs Dennis Rivera "feud" in The World Wrestling League, where Rivera was convinced Vega was an example of this trope. To be fair, Dennis was [[CassandraTruth totally right at first]], it was just that the fans were cheering Vega's efforts to screw Heavyweight Champion Glamour Boy Shane by pitting him against such wrestlers as El Mesias and [[Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio El Patron Alberto]]. But then El Patron joined the newly formed Gentlemen's Club [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and Vega was fired,]] fired.]] It turned out Richard Negrin, the World Wrestling League founder, was the bigger villain with better publicity, so Savio [[HeelFaceTurn was no longer an example when he returned.]]



* Act Yasukawa [[FaceHeelTurn turned heel]] took over Wonder Ring Stardom's main PowerStable, Kimura Monster Gun from Kyoko Kimura herself, renaming it Oedo Tai, yet people kept chanting her name as if she was a baby face.

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* Act Yasukawa [[FaceHeelTurn turned heel]] heel]], took over Wonder Ring Stardom's main PowerStable, Kimura Monster Gun from Kyoko Kimura herself, renaming it Oedo Tai, Oedo~tai, yet people kept chanting her name as if she was a baby face.
18th Mar '18 1:00:15 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/NewJackCity'', Nino Brown tries to gain the people's support by handing out free meals to the poor and money to the children. The cops Scotty and Peretti openly call his Robin Hood act out as crap, as does an old man whose grandson is among those children. At the same time, Nino has forced entire families out of their homes to build his drug factory and is preying on the poor to sell his drugs.

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* In ''Film/NewJackCity'', Nino Brown tries to gain the people's support by handing out free meals to the poor and money to the children. The cops Scotty and Peretti openly call his Robin Hood act out as crap, as does an old man whose grandson is among those children. At the same time, Nino has forced entire families out of their homes to build his drug factory and is preying on the poor to sell his drugs. Deconstructed as Nino's empire starts to fall apart, and especially while Scotty beats him to the cheers and encouragement of a crowd, and it's made clear that the people of the neighborhood despise Nino.
5th Mar '18 9:24:30 PM FGHIK
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If the heroes are ''really'' unlucky, they're up against [[TheGovernment the entire government]] (or [[CorruptChurch church]], [[TheTheocracy depending on the setting]]). The villain might also be [[EvilChancellor a single person]] [[AntagonisticGovernor within the government]], a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corporation head]] or other public figure with a [[SlaveToPR good PR department]], or a [[PathOfInspiration religion engineered for this purpose]]. There's also a good chance that the villain is [[EveryManHasHisPrice using copious amounts of bribery]] to keep thier image clean. If things get even worse, [[GullibleLemmings the people whom the hero tries to protect will actively assist]] the villain against the heroes.

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If the heroes are ''really'' unlucky, they're up against [[TheGovernment the entire government]] (or [[CorruptChurch church]], [[TheTheocracy depending on the setting]]). The villain might also be [[EvilChancellor a single person]] [[AntagonisticGovernor within the government]], a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corporation head]] or other public figure with a [[SlaveToPR good PR department]], or a [[PathOfInspiration religion engineered for this purpose]]. There's also a good chance that the villain is [[EveryManHasHisPrice using copious amounts of bribery]] to keep thier their image clean. If things get even worse, [[GullibleLemmings the people whom the hero tries to protect will actively assist]] the villain against the heroes.
3rd Mar '18 3:36:32 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Wrestling/JayLethal, [[EvilLaugh the cackling]], {{loophole abus|e}}ing, narcissistic, commissioner assaulting double champion of ROH was given the honor of throwing the first pitches at White Sox and Tampa Bay Rays games. He also did a video on ROH for What A Culture where he revealed he was one of the first wrestlers to be getting his own action figure(ensuring he will "Live Forever")

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* Wrestling/JayLethal, [[EvilLaugh the cackling]], {{loophole abus|e}}ing, narcissistic, commissioner assaulting double champion of ROH was given the honor of throwing the first pitches at White Sox and Tampa Bay Rays games. He also did a video on ROH for What A Culture Wrestling/{{What Culture|ProWrestling}} where he revealed he was one of the first wrestlers to be getting his own action figure(ensuring he will "Live Forever")
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