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28th Dec '15 9:00:52 PM eroock
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-->--'''Narration''' from ''[[Comicbook/TheLastAvengersStory The Last Avengers Story]]''


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-->--'''Narration''' -->-- '''Narration''' from ''[[Comicbook/TheLastAvengersStory The Last Avengers Story]]''


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20th Jul '14 5:54:37 PM VeryMelon
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# TheVillainMakesThePlot is in full play here, as well; and one of the few ways to make a smart villain appear effective is to have him be a [[TheChessmaster successful schemer]].

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# TheVillainMakesThePlot TheHeavy is in full play here, as well; and one of the few ways to make a smart villain appear effective is to have him be a [[TheChessmaster successful schemer]].
20th Jul '14 12:36:21 PM VeryMelon
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SuperTrope of TheVillainMakesThePlot which is where smart stories are built on smart villains. This trope points to the vast array of stories where the action starts with the villain. From the same line of thinking comes AmbitionIsEvil. See also OffstageVillainy, which is a common method of showing this.
17th Jan '13 1:44:19 PM bificommander
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# If the hero fights the villain before he's done anything evil, all the audience sees is a DesignatedHero harrasing a DesignatedVillain for no reason. Less of a problem for running series where the villain earned his reputation in previous stories, though that can be seen as a belated heroic reaction to the villain's past actions.

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# If the hero fights actively opposes the villain before he's the latter has done anything evil, all the audience sees is a DesignatedHero harrasing a DesignatedVillain for no reason. Less of a problem for running series where the villain earned his reputation in previous stories, though that can be seen as a belated heroic reaction to the villain's past actions.
17th Jan '13 1:43:23 PM bificommander
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# If the villain hasn't done anything yet, [[DesignatedVillain what makes him a villain]], and why should the audience root for [[DesignatedHero a guy fighting someone who isn't doing anything evil]]?

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# If the hero fights the villain hasn't before he's done anything yet, [[DesignatedVillain what makes him a villain]], and why should evil, all the audience root sees is a DesignatedHero harrasing a DesignatedVillain for [[DesignatedHero no reason. Less of a guy fighting someone who isn't doing anything evil]]?
problem for running series where the villain earned his reputation in previous stories, though that can be seen as a belated heroic reaction to the villain's past actions.
17th Jan '13 1:38:07 PM bificommander
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# If the villain hasn't done anything yet, [[DesignatedVillain what makes him a villain]], and why should the audience root for [[DesignatedHero a guy fighting someone who isn't doing anything evil]]?
29th Dec '12 1:19:42 PM ChaoticNovelist
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An odd fact about the nature of [[SlidingScaleOfProactiveness initiative]] in fiction: If somebody has a plan at the start of the story, that character is [[AmbitionIsEvil probably a villain]].

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An odd fact about the nature of [[SlidingScaleOfProactiveness initiative]] in fiction: If somebody has a plan {{plan}} at the start of the story, that character is [[AmbitionIsEvil probably a villain]].



# A villain, in order to be threatening, must want something, and have some chance of getting it.

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# A villain, in order to be threatening, [[EvilPlan must want something, and have some chance of getting it.]]



SuperTrope of TheVillainMakesThePlot. TheVillainMakesThePlot is where smart stories are built on smart villains. This trope points to the vast array of stories where the action starts with the villain. From the same line of thinking comes AmbitionIsEvil. See also OffstageVillainy, which is a common method of showing this.

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SuperTrope of TheVillainMakesThePlot. TheVillainMakesThePlot which is where smart stories are built on smart villains. This trope points to the vast array of stories where the action starts with the villain. From the same line of thinking comes AmbitionIsEvil. See also OffstageVillainy, which is a common method of showing this.



* The VillainProtagonist, obviously.
** This can vary, as sometimes the VillainProtagonist may end up going against a BigBad who is EvilerThanThou, which means that both the protagonist and antagonist can be both proactive AND reactive. This can result in a GambitPileup towards the end of the story as both character's schemes come to a climactic, and sometimes catastrophic, resolution.

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* The VillainProtagonist, obviously.
** This
obviously because they are the ones with the EvilPlan but this can vary, as sometimes the VillainProtagonist vary
**They
may end up going be against the HeroAntagonist which is this trope from a different viewpoint.
**A
BigBad who is EvilerThanThou, EvilerThanThou may show up which means that both the protagonist TheProtagonist and antagonist TheAntagonist can be both proactive AND reactive. This can result in a GambitPileup towards the end of the story as both character's schemes come to a climactic, and sometimes catastrophic, resolution.
9th Sep '12 6:38:57 AM DonnyKD
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-->--'''Narration''' from ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers The Last Avengers Story]]''


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-->--'''Narration''' from ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers ''[[Comicbook/TheLastAvengersStory The Last Avengers Story]]''

22nd Jun '12 1:25:50 AM SeptimusHeap
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# If the villain doesn't do anything, the audience is entirely within its rights to think that this is a case of OrcusOnHisThrone, which is [[TropesAreNotBad frequently]] [[YourMileageMayVary felt]] to be a bad thing.

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# If the villain doesn't do anything, the audience is entirely within its rights to think that this is a case of OrcusOnHisThrone, which is [[TropesAreNotBad frequently]] [[YourMileageMayVary felt]] frequently felt to be a bad thing.
28th May '12 1:27:06 PM TotemicHero
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SuperTrope of TheVillainMakesThePlot. TheVillainMakesThePlot is where smart stories are built on smart villains. This trope points to the vast array of stories where the action starts with the villain. From the same line of thinking comes AmbitionIsEvil.

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SuperTrope of TheVillainMakesThePlot. TheVillainMakesThePlot is where smart stories are built on smart villains. This trope points to the vast array of stories where the action starts with the villain. From the same line of thinking comes AmbitionIsEvil.
AmbitionIsEvil. See also OffstageVillainy, which is a common method of showing this.
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