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22nd Jul '16 7:16:36 AM GrigorII
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7th Jun '16 1:37:06 AM Medinoc
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** Before then, during the Enie Lobby arc, when Chopper was fighting [[LargeHam Kumadori]], Chopper went into his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Monster Point]] and started kicking Kumadori's ass all over the room. Even though he was up against a 30ft tall monster who was [[NoSell not selling]] any of Kumadori's previously dominant moves and was terrifying Kumadori on a subconscious level so he [[PowerIncontinence lost control]] of his PrehensileHair, Kumadori still stood and fought to the end. Kumadori even stating that it was a man's duty to fight against impossible odds. Of course, Kumadori, despite his occupation as a KillerForHire, was always portrayed as LaughablyEvil and a ridiculous if honor-obsessed ham. And considering that he's working for the the legitimate (if corrupt) government in a completely legitimate manner (defending a government facility against pirates) it's hard to call Kumadori evil in the first place.

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** Before then, during the Enie Lobby arc, when Chopper was fighting [[LargeHam Kumadori]], Chopper went into his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Monster Point]] and started kicking Kumadori's ass all over the room. Even though he was up against a 30ft tall monster who was [[NoSell not selling]] {{No Sell}}ing any of Kumadori's previously dominant moves and was terrifying Kumadori on a subconscious level so he [[PowerIncontinence lost control]] of his PrehensileHair, Kumadori still stood and fought to the end. Kumadori even stating stated that it was a man's duty to fight against impossible odds. Of course, Kumadori, despite his occupation as a KillerForHire, was always portrayed as LaughablyEvil and a ridiculous if honor-obsessed ham. And considering that he's working for the the legitimate (if corrupt) government in a completely legitimate manner (defending a government facility against pirates) it's hard to call Kumadori evil in the first place.
7th Jun '16 1:34:45 AM Medinoc
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** Made even better by the fact that the good guys' victory [[spoiler: would have resulted in the magic ritual activating improperly, which would have wiped out almost all life on Magicus Mundus.]]
** There's also Fate's first fight with [[ShowyInvincibleHero Jack Rakan]]. Going into the fight, Jack is clearly show to be much stronger than Fate, but Fate keeps fighting despite clearly losing, and actually managed to hurt him, which is defiantly impressive outside of flashbacks to the war and Negi absorbing one the energy from one of his attacks, everything thrown at Jack is treated as NoSell.

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** Made even better by the fact that the good guys' victory [[spoiler: would have resulted in the magic ritual activating improperly, which would have wiped out almost all life on Magicus Mundus.Mundus, as it's implied the ritual had gone too far for even the bad guys to stop it.]]
** There's also Fate's first fight with [[ShowyInvincibleHero Jack Rakan]]. Going into the fight, Jack is clearly show to be much stronger than Fate, but Fate keeps fighting despite clearly losing, and actually managed to hurt him, which is defiantly definitely impressive since outside of flashbacks to the war and Negi absorbing one the energy from one of his attacks, everything thrown at Jack is treated as NoSell.
31st May '16 1:55:52 PM Willbyr
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* Cell from ''DragonballZ'' shows this from time to time, as he's pitted against near impossible odds, yet finds ways to still outsmart his opponents. When he finally reaches perfection and realizes he's no longer the underdog, he gives the heroes more time to prepare as a concession that someone may prove to be a WorthyOpponent. It's later subverted when Cell breaks down and runs out of all his tricks but [[TakingYouWithMe one to defeat Gohan]].
** At times, this might apply to Majin Buu as well. In terms of raw power, he frequently ends up outclassed, and there's often a back-and-forth between the protagonists and Buu over who is actually stronger. Come to think of it, that's what much of the battles in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' revolves around. Even matches are rare.

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* Cell from ''DragonballZ'' ''Anime/DragonballZ'' shows this from time to time, as he's pitted against near impossible odds, yet finds ways to still outsmart his opponents. When he finally reaches perfection and realizes he's no longer the underdog, he gives the heroes more time to prepare as a concession that someone may prove to be a WorthyOpponent. It's later subverted when Cell breaks down and runs out of all his tricks but [[TakingYouWithMe one to defeat Gohan]].
** At times, this might apply to Majin Buu as well. In terms of raw power, he frequently ends up outclassed, and there's often a back-and-forth between the protagonists and Buu over who is actually stronger. Come to think of it, that's what much of the battles in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' ''Dragon Ball Z'' revolves around. Even matches are rare.
17th May '16 2:00:45 PM Willbyr
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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.

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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.
13th May '16 5:43:12 PM Shadowgazer
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This often appears in shows where the [[AntiVillain villains]] [[HeroAntagonist are sympathetic]] or [[AntiHero the heroes questionable]]. Nevertheless, this is '''not''' a trope about [[RootingForTheEmpire viewer sympathy]] so much as bravery, ingenuity and [[WeakButSkilled skill]] on the part of a villainous underdog. If the villains are acting more like the soon-to-be-slaughtered protagonists of a horror film, we might be looking at a MookHorrorShow instead. Contrast DavidVersusGoliath, where the hero is the weaker one.

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This often appears in shows where the [[AntiVillain villains]] [[HeroAntagonist villains are sympathetic]] or [[AntiHero the heroes questionable]]. Nevertheless, this is '''not''' a trope about [[RootingForTheEmpire viewer sympathy]] so much as bravery, ingenuity and [[WeakButSkilled skill]] on the part of a villainous underdog. If the villains are acting more like the soon-to-be-slaughtered protagonists of a horror film, we might be looking at a MookHorrorShow instead. Contrast DavidVersusGoliath, where the hero is the weaker one.
1st May '16 11:24:22 PM NozzDogg
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* Most ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' villains tend to have some very admirable traits, even the ''Nazis''. One is an absolute gentleman for example, while another might be unspeakably brave despite his cruelty. However their deficiencies in... other areas tend to leave them somewhat less palatable.
19th Apr '16 3:01:35 AM Mhazard
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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: They had it coming for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]

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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[spoiler: [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: [[KarmicDeath They had it coming coming]] for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]
13th Apr '16 11:00:38 PM Mhazard
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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: They had it coming for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]
3rd Apr '16 7:20:18 AM MicoolTNT
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* Starscream of ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' initially frequently employs his VillainTeleportation for a "tactical retreat", but [[CharacterizationMarchesOn later grows to almost embody this trope]]. Notable moments include taking on the entire good guys' team in a FoeTossingCharge in his first CrowningMomentOfAwesome, growing to giant size and takes on everybody at once soon after in an AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, growing ''even bigger'' ([[UpToEleven to the size of a]] ''planet'') to take on a PhysicalGod, and [[TheStarscream living up to his name]] in a massive BeamOWar against his former boss Galvatron [[spoiler: as a DyingMomentOfAwesome.]]

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* Starscream of ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' initially frequently employs his VillainTeleportation opts for a [[VillainTeleportation "tactical retreat", retreat"]], but [[CharacterizationMarchesOn later grows to almost embody this trope]]. Notable moments include [[FoeTossingCharge taking on the entire good guys' team in a FoeTossingCharge team]] in his first CrowningMomentOfAwesome, growing to giant size and takes on everybody at once soon after in an AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, growing ''even bigger'' ([[UpToEleven to the size of a]] ''planet'') to take on a PhysicalGod, and [[TheStarscream living up to his name]] in a massive BeamOWar BeamOWar-turned-PunchParry against his former boss Galvatron [[spoiler: as a DyingMomentOfAwesome.]]
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