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27th Aug '16 10:14:01 PM PhantomHeartless5
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' has the Mutant Leader. When Batman shows up at the mutants' lair in his giant tank of a Batmobile and begins taking out his minions, the Leader discovers that he's been [[ThouShaltNotKill using rubber bullets]], which prompts the Leader to walk up to the Batmobile... and start [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech mouthing off to Batman, calling him a coward for not being willing to kill and challenging him to fight man-to-man]] and in the ensuing fight, he would have nearly killed Batman had Robin not intervened. And even in their second fight where Batman has the upper hand and begins fighting strategically, the Leader still holds his own. He may be a violent psychopath, but anyone willing to take on the goddamn Batman has some serious brass ones.
-->'''Mutant Leader''': All this metal, and you don't even use it to kill! It's just a shell to keep you safe?! What's the matter? Ain't you got the stomach for it?! I call you '''''COWARD!''''' Come out here and face me like a man! I kill you! I [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Eat. Your. Heart!]] Prove you can take me! ''Prove you can fight with your hands!'' Come on, man! You're ''boring'' me!
11th Aug '16 10:20:38 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''TheSpiritRing'', the BigBad fights [[spoiler: an animated red-hot metal statue]] with a sword. Even the heroine is awed by his courage.

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''TheSpiritRing'', ''Literature/TheSpiritRing'', the BigBad fights [[spoiler: an animated red-hot metal statue]] with a sword. Even the heroine is awed by his courage.
8th Aug '16 2:14:55 AM thatmadork
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** No love for the Ork Warboss from ''VideoGame/Warhammer40000SpaceMarine'' who takes on [[spoiler:dozens of Khornate daemons, gets piled on and seemingly falls to his death, and ''then climbs back up unharmed'' and takes on the Chaos Sorcerer who summoned them and makes a good account of himself?]]
27th Jul '16 5:26:06 PM erforce
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* Imhotep from ''Film/TheMummyTrilogy'' is presented as a ridiculously powerful, unstoppable supernatural menace in the first film. In the climax of the second film, Anubis takes away all of his powers and makes him a mortal, but he still elects to take on the Scorpion King, and even fights Rick to a standstill.

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* Imhotep from ''Film/TheMummyTrilogy'' is presented as a ridiculously powerful, unstoppable supernatural menace in the [[Film/TheMummy1999 first film. film]]. In the climax of the [[Film/TheMummyReturns second film, film]], Anubis takes away all of his powers and makes him a mortal, but he still elects to take on the Scorpion King, and even fights Rick to a standstill.
25th Jul '16 10:47:23 AM GrigorII
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This valour may show up more easily in an EvilVersusEvil fight. The BadassNormal villain may be arrogant, determined, sure of himself and DefiantToTheEnd against the BadassNormal hero, but what if he has to fight against an EldritchAbomination? Perhaps [[TheWorfEffect he is defeated easily]], just to prove that the eldritch abomination means business. Or perhaps... he will be arrogant, determined, sure of himself and defiant to the end, even in the face of armageddon. In that case, he may earn our admiration. And if he even manages to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punch out]] or [[DidYouJustScamCthulhu scam]] the eldritch abomination, even more so.
22nd Jul '16 7:16:36 AM GrigorII
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[[caption-width-right:350:Being trapped helpless in hell? Just a minor inconvenience for Dr. Doom]]
7th Jun '16 1:37:06 AM Medinoc
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** Before then, during the Enie Lobby arc, when Chopper was fighting [[LargeHam Kumadori]], Chopper went into his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Monster Point]] and started kicking Kumadori's ass all over the room. Even though he was up against a 30ft tall monster who was [[NoSell not selling]] any of Kumadori's previously dominant moves and was terrifying Kumadori on a subconscious level so he [[PowerIncontinence lost control]] of his PrehensileHair, Kumadori still stood and fought to the end. Kumadori even stating that it was a man's duty to fight against impossible odds. Of course, Kumadori, despite his occupation as a KillerForHire, was always portrayed as LaughablyEvil and a ridiculous if honor-obsessed ham. And considering that he's working for the the legitimate (if corrupt) government in a completely legitimate manner (defending a government facility against pirates) it's hard to call Kumadori evil in the first place.

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** Before then, during the Enie Lobby arc, when Chopper was fighting [[LargeHam Kumadori]], Chopper went into his [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Monster Point]] and started kicking Kumadori's ass all over the room. Even though he was up against a 30ft tall monster who was [[NoSell not selling]] {{No Sell}}ing any of Kumadori's previously dominant moves and was terrifying Kumadori on a subconscious level so he [[PowerIncontinence lost control]] of his PrehensileHair, Kumadori still stood and fought to the end. Kumadori even stating stated that it was a man's duty to fight against impossible odds. Of course, Kumadori, despite his occupation as a KillerForHire, was always portrayed as LaughablyEvil and a ridiculous if honor-obsessed ham. And considering that he's working for the the legitimate (if corrupt) government in a completely legitimate manner (defending a government facility against pirates) it's hard to call Kumadori evil in the first place.
7th Jun '16 1:34:45 AM Medinoc
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** Made even better by the fact that the good guys' victory [[spoiler: would have resulted in the magic ritual activating improperly, which would have wiped out almost all life on Magicus Mundus.]]
** There's also Fate's first fight with [[ShowyInvincibleHero Jack Rakan]]. Going into the fight, Jack is clearly show to be much stronger than Fate, but Fate keeps fighting despite clearly losing, and actually managed to hurt him, which is defiantly impressive outside of flashbacks to the war and Negi absorbing one the energy from one of his attacks, everything thrown at Jack is treated as NoSell.

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** Made even better by the fact that the good guys' victory [[spoiler: would have resulted in the magic ritual activating improperly, which would have wiped out almost all life on Magicus Mundus.Mundus, as it's implied the ritual had gone too far for even the bad guys to stop it.]]
** There's also Fate's first fight with [[ShowyInvincibleHero Jack Rakan]]. Going into the fight, Jack is clearly show to be much stronger than Fate, but Fate keeps fighting despite clearly losing, and actually managed to hurt him, which is defiantly definitely impressive since outside of flashbacks to the war and Negi absorbing one the energy from one of his attacks, everything thrown at Jack is treated as NoSell.
31st May '16 1:55:52 PM Willbyr
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* Cell from ''DragonballZ'' shows this from time to time, as he's pitted against near impossible odds, yet finds ways to still outsmart his opponents. When he finally reaches perfection and realizes he's no longer the underdog, he gives the heroes more time to prepare as a concession that someone may prove to be a WorthyOpponent. It's later subverted when Cell breaks down and runs out of all his tricks but [[TakingYouWithMe one to defeat Gohan]].
** At times, this might apply to Majin Buu as well. In terms of raw power, he frequently ends up outclassed, and there's often a back-and-forth between the protagonists and Buu over who is actually stronger. Come to think of it, that's what much of the battles in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' revolves around. Even matches are rare.

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* Cell from ''DragonballZ'' ''Anime/DragonballZ'' shows this from time to time, as he's pitted against near impossible odds, yet finds ways to still outsmart his opponents. When he finally reaches perfection and realizes he's no longer the underdog, he gives the heroes more time to prepare as a concession that someone may prove to be a WorthyOpponent. It's later subverted when Cell breaks down and runs out of all his tricks but [[TakingYouWithMe one to defeat Gohan]].
** At times, this might apply to Majin Buu as well. In terms of raw power, he frequently ends up outclassed, and there's often a back-and-forth between the protagonists and Buu over who is actually stronger. Come to think of it, that's what much of the battles in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' ''Dragon Ball Z'' revolves around. Even matches are rare.
17th May '16 2:00:45 PM Willbyr
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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.

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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.
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