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17th May '16 2:00:45 PM Willbyr
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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.

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* Maleficent in ''KingdomHearts'', ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', especially in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep''. She never gives up on her ambitions, or allows herself the luxury of true failure. Evil as she is, you have to respect that. She even fought Sora face-to-face in the first game without hesitation or fear. Remember that Sora hasn't just defeated all her allies and most of her Heartless troops before the battle but also he had the help of [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Beast]], a nine foot tall creature with claws and teeth who has no problems taking down even the strongest Heartless with just one punch. It takes guts to fight something like that.
13th May '16 5:43:12 PM Shadowgazer
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This often appears in shows where the [[AntiVillain villains]] [[HeroAntagonist are sympathetic]] or [[AntiHero the heroes questionable]]. Nevertheless, this is '''not''' a trope about [[RootingForTheEmpire viewer sympathy]] so much as bravery, ingenuity and [[WeakButSkilled skill]] on the part of a villainous underdog. If the villains are acting more like the soon-to-be-slaughtered protagonists of a horror film, we might be looking at a MookHorrorShow instead. Contrast DavidVersusGoliath, where the hero is the weaker one.

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This often appears in shows where the [[AntiVillain villains]] [[HeroAntagonist villains are sympathetic]] or [[AntiHero the heroes questionable]]. Nevertheless, this is '''not''' a trope about [[RootingForTheEmpire viewer sympathy]] so much as bravery, ingenuity and [[WeakButSkilled skill]] on the part of a villainous underdog. If the villains are acting more like the soon-to-be-slaughtered protagonists of a horror film, we might be looking at a MookHorrorShow instead. Contrast DavidVersusGoliath, where the hero is the weaker one.
1st May '16 11:24:22 PM NozzDogg
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* Most ''TabletopGame/RocketAge'' villains tend to have some very admirable traits, even the ''Nazis''. One is an absolute gentleman for example, while another might be unspeakably brave despite his cruelty. However their deficiencies in... other areas tend to leave them somewhat less palatable.
19th Apr '16 3:01:35 AM Mhazard
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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: They had it coming for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]

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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[spoiler: [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: [[KarmicDeath They had it coming coming]] for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]
13th Apr '16 11:00:38 PM Mhazard
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** Deconstructed in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'', Carta Issue along with her bodyguards are honourable soldiers who sought to defeat their foes in a honourable duel, which fell into deaf ears when [[CombatPragmatist Mikazuki Augus]] [[ExtremeMeleeRevenge indiscriminately kills every last one of them]] when they are ''[[KilledMidSentence outside]]'' their mechs [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown as brutal as he can]] [[TheStoic without giving a damn]]. [[spoiler: They had it coming for [[ItsPersonal killing Biscuit]].]]
3rd Apr '16 7:20:18 AM MicoolTNT
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* Starscream of ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' initially frequently employs his VillainTeleportation for a "tactical retreat", but [[CharacterizationMarchesOn later grows to almost embody this trope]]. Notable moments include taking on the entire good guys' team in a FoeTossingCharge in his first CrowningMomentOfAwesome, growing to giant size and takes on everybody at once soon after in an AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, growing ''even bigger'' ([[UpToEleven to the size of a]] ''planet'') to take on a PhysicalGod, and [[TheStarscream living up to his name]] in a massive BeamOWar against his former boss Galvatron [[spoiler: as a DyingMomentOfAwesome.]]

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* Starscream of ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' initially frequently employs his VillainTeleportation opts for a [[VillainTeleportation "tactical retreat", retreat"]], but [[CharacterizationMarchesOn later grows to almost embody this trope]]. Notable moments include [[FoeTossingCharge taking on the entire good guys' team in a FoeTossingCharge team]] in his first CrowningMomentOfAwesome, growing to giant size and takes on everybody at once soon after in an AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, growing ''even bigger'' ([[UpToEleven to the size of a]] ''planet'') to take on a PhysicalGod, and [[TheStarscream living up to his name]] in a massive BeamOWar BeamOWar-turned-PunchParry against his former boss Galvatron [[spoiler: as a DyingMomentOfAwesome.]]
25th Mar '16 6:20:00 PM vtarira
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* In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren treats the Dark Side like a knight's code of honor (he actually [[SurrogateSoliloquy worries aloud at one point]] that he's being corrupted by the Light Side, then [[spoiler:follows through with a [[TearJerker horrifying interpretation]] of HonorBeforeReason when he tries to prevent this by putting the Dark Side before his family]]). His {{Determinator}}/DefiantToTheEnd attitude when [[spoiler:starting and eventually losing his duel with Finn and Rey, even after being shot by Chewbacca]] also smacks of this.

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* In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren treats the Dark Side like a knight's code of honor (he actually [[SurrogateSoliloquy worries aloud at one point]] that he's being corrupted by the Light Side, then [[spoiler:follows through with a [[TearJerker horrifying interpretation]] of HonorBeforeReason when he tries to prevent this by putting the Dark Side before his family]]). His {{Determinator}}/DefiantToTheEnd {{Determinator}} attitude when [[spoiler:starting and eventually losing his duel with Finn and Rey, even after being shot by Chewbacca]] also smacks of this.
23rd Mar '16 5:19:42 PM vtarira
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* In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Kylo Ren treats the Dark Side like a knight's code of honor (he actually [[SurrogateSoliloquy worries aloud at one point]] that he's being corrupted by the Light Side, then [[spoiler:follows through with a [[TearJerker horrifying interpretation]] of HonorBeforeReason when he tries to prevent this by putting the Dark Side before his family]]). His {{Determinator}}/DefiantToTheEnd attitude when [[spoiler:starting and eventually losing his duel with Finn and Rey, even after being shot by Chewbacca]] also smacks of this.
6th Mar '16 10:47:25 AM nombretomado
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* When Blonsky (with a little help from some CaptainAmerica serum) first fights the [[TheHulk Hulk]] as a human in ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', you can't help but be impressed by the guy. Sure, he's a creepy jackass, but this is an almost ordinary man trying to go hand-to-hand with the friggin' HULK!

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* When Blonsky (with a little help from some CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica serum) first fights the [[TheHulk Hulk]] as a human in ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', you can't help but be impressed by the guy. Sure, he's a creepy jackass, but this is an almost ordinary man trying to go hand-to-hand with the friggin' HULK!
5th Mar '16 9:58:15 PM TheMoccasinKing
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** Clayton Suggs, a knight in service to Stannis Baratheon, is an all-around rotten character with an unhealthy obsession with torture, sacrifice via burning, and invoking CountryMatters on women such as [[spoiler: Asha Greyjoy]]. But faced with what could possibly be an entire enemy army, he immediately rips out his sword and prepares to take them all on to give [[spoiler: Asha]] time to warn the rest of the army.
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