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25th Apr '16 4:50:04 AM Vir
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* In ''Film/TheOmen1976'' and ''Film/DamienOmenII'', the first two movies of ''Film/TheOmen'' series, Damien seems unstoppable and unbeatable. Then comes ''Film/OmenIIITheFinalConflict'', where his plan to prevent the Second Coming ends in an EpicFail and he's finally taken down because he takes the [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod completely wrong approach]], assuming Christ will return to the world the same way he did the first time. Simply reading the BookOfRevelations could have tipped him off to the rather huge flaw in his plan.

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* In ''Film/TheOmen1976'' and ''Film/DamienOmenII'', the first two movies of ''Film/TheOmen'' series, Damien seems unstoppable and unbeatable. Then comes ''Film/OmenIIITheFinalConflict'', where his plan to prevent the Second Coming ends in an EpicFail and he's finally taken down because he takes the [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod completely wrong approach]], assuming Christ will return to the world the same way he did the first time. Simply reading the BookOfRevelations Book of Revelations could have tipped him off to the rather huge flaw in his plan.
12th Apr '16 6:41:57 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they are a CardCarryingVillain.

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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they are a CardCarryingVillain.
12th Apr '16 6:41:22 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Evil sows the seeds of its own destruction. At least that's what every {{Aesop}} and fortune cookie says, anyway. There seems to be some truth to it, at least in fiction. Regardless of how GenreSavvy they might otherwise be, villains tend to inherently draw heroic attention to themselves that leads to their demise, or at least the demise of their EvilPlan. Even if their success is seemingly assured, they can't seem to help but do something, ''anything'', that serves no purpose other than giving TheHero the extra [[ItsPersonal motivation]] and [[AlwaysClose opportunity]] to wreck everything, and he will.

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Evil "Evil sows the seeds of its own destruction. At least that's what every {{Aesop}} and destruction", says the fortune cookie says, anyway. There seems to be some truth to it, at least in fiction.cookie. Regardless of how GenreSavvy they might otherwise be, villains tend to inherently draw heroic attention to themselves that leads to their demise, or at least the demise of their EvilPlan. Even if their success is seemingly assured, they can't seem to help but do something, ''anything'', something evil that serves no purpose other than giving TheHero the extra [[ItsPersonal motivation]] and [[AlwaysClose opportunity]] to wreck everything, and he will.



Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show that they really are [[DesignatedVillain the Villains]], no ''really!''

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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they really are [[DesignatedVillain the Villains]], no ''really!''
a CardCarryingVillain.



** He kills Lind L. Taylor on national television purely out of spite because Taylor insulted him, allowing the real L to figure out exactly where he is.

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** He kills Lind L. Taylor on national television purely out of spite because Taylor insulted him, allowing the real L to figure out exactly significantly narrow down where he is.could be.
4th Apr '16 6:59:47 PM ahasemore
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* ''[[Film/HomeAlone Home Alone 2: Lost in New York]]'' has the Wet Bandits, Harry and Marv, planning to rob Duncan's Toy Chest at midnight on Christmas Eve. When they find Kevin, they pick it up by attempting to kidnap him and grasp it even further by ''telling him their exact plans.'' Needless to say, this comes back to bite them when Kevin foils their robbery that night.

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* ''[[Film/HomeAlone Home Alone 2: Lost in New York]]'' has the Wet Bandits, Harry and Marv, planning to rob Duncan's Toy Chest at midnight on Christmas Eve. When they find Kevin, they pick it up by attempting to kidnap him and grasp it even further by ''telling him their exact plans.'' Needless to say, this comes back to bite them when Kevin foils their robbery that night. Granted, Kevin is just a kid, but you'd think they'd know better after what happened in the last movie.
3rd Apr '16 4:44:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lampshaded in [[HeirsOfAlexandria Much Fall of Blood]]. The EvilSorcerer plans to trap and sacrifice the heroes in a location where magic doesn't work. Of course, this means the EvilSorcerer has no access to magic either, and the heroes are better in a physical melee.

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* Lampshaded in [[HeirsOfAlexandria Much Fall of Blood]].''Literature/MuchFallOfBlood''. The EvilSorcerer plans to trap and sacrifice the heroes in a location where magic doesn't work. Of course, this means the EvilSorcerer has no access to magic either, and the heroes are better in a physical melee.
25th Mar '16 2:34:26 AM SteamedPotatoes
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* A recurring theme with villains in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is that, despite their admittedly noble goals (Amon wants equality, Unalaq wanted to bring back the spirits, Zaheer wanted the people to be free, and Kuvira is trying to bring order to the Earth Kingdom), they are not above committing pointless and petty acts of cruelty, which leads to Korra ruining their plans.

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* A recurring theme with villains in ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is that, despite their admittedly noble goals (Amon wants equality, Unalaq wanted to bring back the spirits, Zaheer wanted the people to be free, and Kuvira is trying to bring order to the Earth Kingdom), they are not above committing pointless and petty acts of cruelty, which leads to Korra ruining their plans.plans and even got their goals accomplished (except for Zaheer, in which he mournfully admitted that his actions in Book Three only caused chaos after he killed the Earth Queen that lead to Kuvira's rise to power and descent to villainy).
20th Mar '16 12:11:11 PM Whistler
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** In ''The Empire Strikes Back'', both Lando Calrissian and Boba Fett complain about Darth Vader's plan to freeze Han in carbonite, Lando because Han is his friend, Fett because he wants to collect Jabba's bounty on Han. Vader reassures Fett that the Empire will compensate Fett if Han dies, but coldly tells Lando that he is altering the deal. Now, consider the fact that Boba Fett is just one guy; Vader could kill him and have his body tossed off the side of Cloud City, and no one would care. For that matter, Vader could have tested the carbon-freezing process on Fett, and no one would have minded. Lando, by contrast, was the administrator of Cloud City and had a loyal security force at his command that he subsequently used to rescue Leia, Chewie, and Threepio, which of course led to the ruination of Vader's plans. If Vader had been thinking rationally, he would have realized very quickly that Lando was the one he needed to assuage, but Boba Fett he could ignore or even dispose of. So why did Vader do the opposite? Well, Fett was evil and Lando wasn't, so of course Vader would favor Fett, even though it was against his interest.
20th Mar '16 10:25:17 AM Oddstar6
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** In ''The Empire Strikes Back'', both Lando Calrissian and Boba Fett complain about Darth Vader's plan to freeze Han in carbonite, Lando because Han is his friend, Fett because he wants to collect Jabba's bounty on Han. Vader reassures Fett that the Empire will compensate Fett if Han dies, but coldly tells Lando that he is altering the deal. Now, consider the fact that Boba Fett is just one guy; Vader could kill him and have his body tossed off the side of Cloud City, and no one would care. For that matter, Vader could have tested the carbon-freezing process on Fett, and no one would have minded. Lando, by contrast, was the administrator of Cloud City and had a loyal security force at his command that he subsequently used to rescue Leia, Chewie, and Threepio, which of course led to the ruination of Vader's plans. If Vader had been thinking rationally, he would have realized very quickly that Lando was the one he needed to assuage, but Boba Fett he could ignore or even dispose of. So why did Vader do the opposite? Well, Fett was evil and Lando wasn't, so of course Vader would favor Fett, even though it was against his interest.
20th Mar '16 7:13:22 AM Whistler
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** In ''The Empire Strikes Back'', both Lando Calrissian and Boba Fett complain about Darth Vader's plan to freeze Han in carbonite, Lando because Han is his friend, Fett because he wants to collect Jabba's bounty on Han. Vader reassures Fett that the Empire will compensate Fett if Han dies, but coldly tells Lando that he is altering the deal. Now, consider the fact that Boba Fett is just one guy; Vader could kill him and have his body tossed off the side of Cloud City, and no one would care. For that matter, Vader could have tested the carbon-freezing process on Fett, and no one would have minded. Lando, by contrast, was the administrator of Cloud City and had a loyal security force at his command that he subsequently used to rescue Leia, Chewie, and Threepio, which of course led to the ruination of Vader's plans. If Vader had been thinking rationally, he would have realized very quickly that Lando was the one he needed to assuage, but Boba Fett he could ignore or even dispose of. So why did Vader do the opposite? Well, Fett was evil and Lando wasn't, so of course Vader would favor Fett, even though it was against his interest.
20th Mar '16 2:18:00 AM Oddstar6
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** In ''The Empire Strikes Back'', both Lando Calrissian and Boba Fett complain about Darth Vader's plan to freeze Han in carbonite, Lando because Han is his friend, Fett because he wants to collect Jabba's bounty on Han. Vader reassures Fett that the Empire will compensate Fett if Han dies, but coldly tells Lando that he is altering the deal. Now, consider the fact that Boba Fett is just one guy; Vader could kill him and have his body tossed off the side of Cloud City, and no one would care. For that matter, Vader could have tested the carbon-freezing process on Fett, and no one would have minded. Lando, by contrast, was the administrator of Cloud City and had a loyal security force at his command that he subsequently used to rescue Leia, Chewie, and Threepio, which of course led to the ruination of Vader's plans. If Vader had been thinking rationally, he would have realized very quickly that Lando was the one he needed to assuage, but Boba Fett he could ignore or even dispose of. So why did Vader do the opposite? Well, Fett was evil and Lando wasn't, so of course Vader would favor Fett, even though it was against his interest.
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