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20th May '16 10:34:11 AM gophergiggles
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** Even dumber, Saddler's plan was to infect the president's daughter (Ashley) & send her back to the president without anyone knowing she's infected so she'd kill the president but, when Leon frees her, Saddler tells him that he infected them both. After that, he tries to stop Leon from saving her, eventually catches her again, & locks her up on the island the cure is on. If he had just let Leon leave after finding Ashley the first time, the president would've had an infected daughter & an infected bodyguard.

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** Even dumber, Saddler's plan was to infect the president's daughter (Ashley) & and send her back to the president without anyone knowing she's she was infected so she'd kill the president but, when and, due to sheer luck, he managed to infect Leon frees her, Saddler tells him as well. His plan had ''succeeded'' the second Leon freed her with the added bonus that he the president would soon have an infected ''bodyguard'' as well as daughter. However instead of kicking back with a beer and watching them both. After that, "escape" he tries to stop Leon from saving her, eventually catches her again, & locks her confronts them, blabs his whole plan, and then ''DOES EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO PREVENT THEIR ESCAPE'' culminating in capturing and locking up Ashley on the island that houses the cure is on. If he had just let Leon leave after finding Ashley parasite-removal machine mentioned above. His only "justification" for this (using that term ''loosely'' by the first time, the president would've had an infected daughter & an infected bodyguard.way) is he intended to hold her for ransom to make some money, and needless to say he's more responsible for his plan falling to pieces than Leon's sheer bad-assery.
19th May '16 6:14:53 PM RaphBlade7
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* In ''VideoGame/Hyrule Warriors'', BigBad Ganondorf [[spoiler:Obtains the complete Triforce]] after defeating the Hyrulean Forces. Instead eliminating his enemies in one fell swoop, he disappears from the battlefield [[spoiler:leaving his generals Zant & Ghirahim to lead his army and decides to use its power to summon more monsters to serve him]]. However the Hyrulean Forces manage to [[spoiler:defeat Zant and Ghirahim in Gerudo Desert after summoning their allies from across time]]. They then return to Hyrule Castle [[Spoiler:which Ganondorf had transformed into Ganon's Tower]] and [[spoiler:defeat Ganondorf who uses the Triforce to transform into Ganon, only to be defeated by the combined might of the Hyrulean Forces and their allies]].

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* In ''VideoGame/Hyrule ''Hyrule Warriors'', BigBad Ganondorf [[spoiler:Obtains the complete Triforce]] after defeating the Hyrulean Forces. Instead eliminating his enemies in one fell swoop, he disappears from the battlefield [[spoiler:leaving his generals Zant & Ghirahim to lead his army and decides to use its power to summon more monsters to serve him]]. However the Hyrulean Forces manage to [[spoiler:defeat Zant and Ghirahim in Gerudo Desert after summoning their allies from across time]]. They then return to Hyrule Castle [[Spoiler:which [[spoiler:which Ganondorf had transformed into Ganon's Tower]] and [[spoiler:defeat Ganondorf who uses the Triforce to transform into Ganon, only to be defeated by the combined might of the Hyrulean Forces and their allies]].
19th May '16 6:12:29 PM RaphBlade7
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* In ''VideoGame/Hyrule Warriors'', BigBad Ganondorf [[spoiler:Obtains the complete Triforce]] after defeating the Hyrulean Forces. Instead eliminating his enemies in one fell swoop, he disappears from the battlefield [[spoiler:leaving his generals Zant & Ghirahim to lead his army and decides to use its power to summon more monsters to serve him]]. However the Hyrulean Forces manage to [[spoiler:defeat Zant and Ghirahim in Gerudo Desert after summoning their allies from across time]]. They then return to Hyrule Castle [[Spoiler:which Ganondorf had transformed into Ganon's Tower]] and [[spoiler:defeat Ganondorf who uses the Triforce to transform into Ganon, only to be defeated by the combined might of the Hyrulean Forces and their allies]].
14th May '16 9:49:39 AM nombretomado
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* In the JackieChanAdventures fic ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', after Jade becomes evil once more, she juggles the Villain Ball by sometimes gloating and overestimating her own abilities, but she is ALSO DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and attempts to learn from both her own mistakes and the mistakes of previous {{Big Bad}}s, like not going for a WorldDomination plot, remembering how Shendu and siblings got sealed away, and having a special prison constructed to contain the good guys if they are captured.

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* In the JackieChanAdventures WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures fic ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', after Jade becomes evil once more, she juggles the Villain Ball by sometimes gloating and overestimating her own abilities, but she is ALSO DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and attempts to learn from both her own mistakes and the mistakes of previous {{Big Bad}}s, like not going for a WorldDomination plot, remembering how Shendu and siblings got sealed away, and having a special prison constructed to contain the good guys if they are captured.
6th May '16 4:53:54 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Byaku at the end of the ''{{Kekkaishi}}'' anime. [[spoiler: Yoshimori had willingly come to the Kokoboro and was demanding they bring him Kaguro. Byaku had never shown any particular loyalty to his lieutenants thus far, and had particular reason not to be attached to Kaguro. But instead of trying to make a deal with Yoshimori, he orders Shion to try to break Yoshimori's spirit and weaken his powers.]]

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* Byaku at the end of the ''{{Kekkaishi}}'' ''Manga/{{Kekkaishi}}'' anime. [[spoiler: Yoshimori had willingly come to the Kokoboro and was demanding they bring him Kaguro. Byaku had never shown any particular loyalty to his lieutenants thus far, and had particular reason not to be attached to Kaguro. But instead of trying to make a deal with Yoshimori, he orders Shion to try to break Yoshimori's spirit and weaken his powers.]]
25th Apr '16 4:50:04 AM Vir
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* In ''Film/TheOmen1976'' and ''Film/DamienOmenII'', the first two movies of ''Film/TheOmen'' series, Damien seems unstoppable and unbeatable. Then comes ''Film/OmenIIITheFinalConflict'', where his plan to prevent the Second Coming ends in an EpicFail and he's finally taken down because he takes the [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod completely wrong approach]], assuming Christ will return to the world the same way he did the first time. Simply reading the BookOfRevelations could have tipped him off to the rather huge flaw in his plan.

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* In ''Film/TheOmen1976'' and ''Film/DamienOmenII'', the first two movies of ''Film/TheOmen'' series, Damien seems unstoppable and unbeatable. Then comes ''Film/OmenIIITheFinalConflict'', where his plan to prevent the Second Coming ends in an EpicFail and he's finally taken down because he takes the [[NiceJobBreakingItHerod completely wrong approach]], assuming Christ will return to the world the same way he did the first time. Simply reading the BookOfRevelations Book of Revelations could have tipped him off to the rather huge flaw in his plan.
12th Apr '16 6:41:57 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they are a CardCarryingVillain.

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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they are a CardCarryingVillain.
12th Apr '16 6:41:22 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Evil sows the seeds of its own destruction. At least that's what every {{Aesop}} and fortune cookie says, anyway. There seems to be some truth to it, at least in fiction. Regardless of how GenreSavvy they might otherwise be, villains tend to inherently draw heroic attention to themselves that leads to their demise, or at least the demise of their EvilPlan. Even if their success is seemingly assured, they can't seem to help but do something, ''anything'', that serves no purpose other than giving TheHero the extra [[ItsPersonal motivation]] and [[AlwaysClose opportunity]] to wreck everything, and he will.

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Evil "Evil sows the seeds of its own destruction. At least that's what every {{Aesop}} and destruction", says the fortune cookie says, anyway. There seems to be some truth to it, at least in fiction.cookie. Regardless of how GenreSavvy they might otherwise be, villains tend to inherently draw heroic attention to themselves that leads to their demise, or at least the demise of their EvilPlan. Even if their success is seemingly assured, they can't seem to help but do something, ''anything'', something evil that serves no purpose other than giving TheHero the extra [[ItsPersonal motivation]] and [[AlwaysClose opportunity]] to wreck everything, and he will.



Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show that they really are [[DesignatedVillain the Villains]], no ''really!''

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Sure signs that the Villain Ball is in play is when the villain adds needless complications to their plan for the sake of tormenting others. They may claim this is all for the sake of averting attention, [[RevealingCoverup but it tends to have the opposite effect.]] Frequently (often due to {{Pride}}) they insist on taking care of things personally when there's no reason an expendable mook couldn't do it, or the preference for a grisly and complicated DeathTrap over [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim more pragmatic]] hero-disposal solutions. This is also what seems to motivate them to frequently take one of the hero's love interests [[HostageForMacGuffin hostage in exchange for the MacGuffin]] and immediately [[YouSaidYouWouldLetThemGo go back on the deal]], ignoring that a ''[[RoaringRampageOfRevenge vengeful]]'' hero is likely a greater threat than a merely pissed-off one. It seems they just can't help themselves, they are compelled to [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat stop in their tracks]] to [[AndYourLittleDogToo threaten innocent puppies]] just to show prove that they really are [[DesignatedVillain the Villains]], no ''really!''
a CardCarryingVillain.



** He kills Lind L. Taylor on national television purely out of spite because Taylor insulted him, allowing the real L to figure out exactly where he is.

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** He kills Lind L. Taylor on national television purely out of spite because Taylor insulted him, allowing the real L to figure out exactly significantly narrow down where he is.could be.
4th Apr '16 6:59:47 PM ahasemore
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* ''[[Film/HomeAlone Home Alone 2: Lost in New York]]'' has the Wet Bandits, Harry and Marv, planning to rob Duncan's Toy Chest at midnight on Christmas Eve. When they find Kevin, they pick it up by attempting to kidnap him and grasp it even further by ''telling him their exact plans.'' Needless to say, this comes back to bite them when Kevin foils their robbery that night.

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* ''[[Film/HomeAlone Home Alone 2: Lost in New York]]'' has the Wet Bandits, Harry and Marv, planning to rob Duncan's Toy Chest at midnight on Christmas Eve. When they find Kevin, they pick it up by attempting to kidnap him and grasp it even further by ''telling him their exact plans.'' Needless to say, this comes back to bite them when Kevin foils their robbery that night. Granted, Kevin is just a kid, but you'd think they'd know better after what happened in the last movie.
3rd Apr '16 4:44:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lampshaded in [[HeirsOfAlexandria Much Fall of Blood]]. The EvilSorcerer plans to trap and sacrifice the heroes in a location where magic doesn't work. Of course, this means the EvilSorcerer has no access to magic either, and the heroes are better in a physical melee.

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* Lampshaded in [[HeirsOfAlexandria Much Fall of Blood]].''Literature/MuchFallOfBlood''. The EvilSorcerer plans to trap and sacrifice the heroes in a location where magic doesn't work. Of course, this means the EvilSorcerer has no access to magic either, and the heroes are better in a physical melee.
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