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23rd Jul '16 12:55:59 PM KeithM
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** In ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', Thor has emotionally matured to the point that he openly states Loki was right, and even more, Thor doesn't have (nor wants to have) the ability to be as ruthless as the king of Asgard sometimes has to be.
23rd Jul '16 12:33:12 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* And, in the context of ''Star Wars'' as a whole, Palpatine was right all along. Yes, he's the Sith Lord Darth Sidious. Yes, the Sith are the most evil thing in the galaxy. Yes, he's guilty of treason. But the fact remains that the Jedi are both a [[CorruptChurch theocratic cabal]] and a cadre of armed vigilantes who hypocritically claim to serve the Republic while operating against it. Their plot to have Anakin spy on Palpatine - which Anakin himself is repulsed by - is surely illegal in spirit if not in letter, and the Jedi deserve to be punished for insubordination, even if only for the sake of form. And as a side note, Mace Windu's unhinged anger when he goes to arrest Palpatine and his apparent willingness to kill in a fit of vigilante outrage gives the lie to the Jedis' claim that they are pacifistic and non-aggressive - and in principle makes them worse than the Sith, because [[AtLeastIAdmitIt the Sith openly admit that they act out of anger and hatred]].
23rd Jul '16 12:28:26 PM Valiona
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* The YouTube channel "outsidexbox" does something similar to the Cracked example for video games with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQS1ttWNN-I 7 Bad Guys Who Had a Point, Now I Think About It]]"
9th Jul '16 12:47:55 PM 10-13-2
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* And, in the context of ''Star Wars'' as a whole, Palpatine was right all along. Yes, he's the Sith Lord Darth Sidious. Yes, the Sith are the most evil thing in the galaxy. Yes, he's guilty of treason. But the fact remains that the Jedi are both a [[CorruptChurch theocratic cabal]] and a cadre of armed vigilantes who hypocritically claim to serve the Republic while operating against it. Their plot to have Anakin spy on Palpatine - which Anakin himself is repulsed by - is surely illegal in spirit if not in letter, and the Jedi deserve to be punished for insubordination, even if only for the sake of form. And as a side note, Mace Windu's unhinged anger when he goes to arrest Palpatine and his apparent willingness to kill in a fit of vigilante outrage gives the lie to the Jedis' claim that they are pacifistic and non-aggressive - and in principle makes them worse than the Sith, because [[AtLeastIAdmitIt the Sith openly admit that they act out of anger and hatred]].
30th Jun '16 7:11:16 PM ThatBitterTase
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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' especially in the Orochi saga. Serpentine villain Orochi is sick and tired of mankind polluting the earth, thus summoning 8 heralds to pave the way for its drastic cleansing. Gaia doesn't seem to have ordered it to mop up the world though.

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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' especially in The tie-in comic to ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' has a cop denounce the Orochi saga. Serpentine villain Orochi is sick Joker for killing "a lot of good husbands and tired of mankind polluting fathers". Joker complains, not unreasonably, that nobody ever laments the earth, thus summoning 8 heralds to pave the way for its drastic cleansing. Gaia doesn't seem to have ordered it to mop up the world though.dead ''bachelors''.
30th Jun '16 7:23:26 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9qAqwIW704 this deleted scene]] from ''Film/{{Dogma}}'', Azrael - a fallen angel trying to destroy reality and a general {{jerkass}} - makes a rather valid point about the abstract nature of evil.
12th Jun '16 11:05:51 AM DoctorTItanX
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* [[spoiler: Bellweather]] in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' was overlooked and treated badly by their predator co-workers and is right in their argument that predator species have been dominating prey species. However that is no justification for their willingness to hurt and even kill innocent animals.

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* [[spoiler: Bellweather]] in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' was overlooked and treated badly by their predator co-workers and is right in their argument that predator species have been dominating prey species. However However, that is no justification for their willingness to hurt and even kill innocent animals.
6th Jun '16 6:13:34 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* In ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'', Sinestro left the Green Lantern Corps and started his own Sinestro Corps, because he felt that the Guardians of the Universe were doing a poor job at policing the universe. Given that the Guardians are indirectly responsible for the massacre that destroyed Atrocitius's sector, and that they tried to remove free will during ''ComicBook/RiseOfTheThirdArmy'', his suspicions are being proven right.

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* In ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'', Sinestro left the Green Lantern Corps and started his own Sinestro Corps, because he felt that the Guardians of the Universe were doing a poor job at policing the universe. Given that the Guardians are indirectly responsible for the massacre that destroyed Atrocitius's sector, and that they tried to remove free will during ''ComicBook/RiseOfTheThirdArmy'', his suspicions are being proven right. He also make Green Lanterns abolish ThouShaltNotKill rule to make them better deal with threats.
6th Jun '16 2:00:53 AM O_H
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* In ''VideoGame/RedEarth'', Scion (or Valdoll in Japan) plays this trope straight to the hilt, lecturing every hero in his defeat cinematics why he made the mess: The classic bad humans reason.
* Played straight in ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' especially in the Orochi saga. Serpentine villain Orochi is sick and tired of mankind polluting the earth, thus summoning 8 heralds to pave the way for its drastic cleansing. Gaia doesn't seem to have ordered it to mop up the world though.
3rd Jun '16 2:10:42 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Film/TheMatrix'': Cypher betrays and murders his comrades for a chance to get back inside the Matrix, making him clearly villainous. However, he claims one of his grievances with Morpheus is the admittedly shady way that Morpheus gains new recruits by peeking their interest with cryptic conversations and not telling them the truth about the real world being a bombed-out wasteland until after they've already made their decision.
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