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8th Aug '16 3:16:23 AM morenohijazo
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** Subverted with [[spoiler:U8 King Cold, who if his family's statements and expanded universe material are any indicator, has gotten stronger since Freezia was born, as he once ''couldn't'' control his power in his higher forms at all, but now spends most of the tournament in his final form with no problem at all, much to Cooler's shock, and is powerful enough to curbstomp U3 Bardock when he uses 100% power, something he can access in ''seconds'' as opposed to the minutes it takes his son.]]

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** Subverted Also [[spoiler:subverted with [[spoiler:U8 U8 King Cold, who if his family's statements and expanded universe material are any indicator, has gotten stronger since Freezia was born, as he once ''couldn't'' control his power in his higher forms at all, but now spends most of the tournament in his final form with no problem at all, much to Cooler's shock, and is powerful enough to curbstomp U3 Bardock when he uses 100% power, something he can access in ''seconds'' as opposed to the minutes it takes his son.]]son. Then he goes OneWingedAngel. ''Twice.'']]
30th Jul '16 10:48:33 PM acrobox
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Surprise! It's an enemy ambush! In fact, it's the [[EliteMooks nasty minion from before]]. TheHero's group nearly died fighting him last time, and now he's back and just as {{Badass}} as he ever was.

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Surprise! It's an enemy ambush! In fact, it's the [[EliteMooks nasty minion from before]]. TheHero's group nearly died fighting him last time, and now he's back and just as {{Badass}} badass as he ever was.



It seems that there was an intelligence failure on the villain's part and he's failed to consult the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil before attacking. As a result, the heroes have [[TookALevelInBadass increased in power]] while the villain has stayed still. It's not precisely the villain's fault. He was extremely dangerous [[SoLastSeason the last time]], but the heroes have been LevelGrinding and improving their skills so much that they now have him outclassed.

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It seems that there was an intelligence failure on the villain's part and he's failed to consult the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil before attacking. As a result, the heroes have [[TookALevelInBadass increased in power]] while the villain has stayed still. It's not precisely the villain's fault. He was extremely dangerous [[SoLastSeason the last time]], but the heroes have been LevelGrinding and improving their skills so much that they now have him outclassed.
outclassed. Which asks the question, why didn't the villain use the time to improve and keep his lead over the good guys?


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Outside of gaming this be justified if there is a known limit on someones abilities. If the bad guys max out at 50 and the good guys have the potential for 100 or more, then its only a matter of time before it's TimeToUnlockMoreTruePotential. If the bad guy is a ThresholdGuardian the whole point could be that they're offering a set challenge to allow people who meet it to pass.

Otherwise if enough years pass between battles, you could say that the heroes are young and untested while the villain is in their prime in the first encounter, and by the second encounter the heroes are in their prime and the villains, despite having the same bravado, starting to slow down in their old age.
22nd Jul '16 4:47:09 AM zealots
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* An early issue of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' has the titular team struggling with the Mad Thinker's Awesome Android, who was so tough they were only able to defeat it by luring it into the Negative Zone portal. 100 issues or so later, the team takes out multiple androids of this type easily, and later on Sue defeats some by herself.
* In ComicBook/{{Quicksilver}}'s 1998 miniseries his primary villain is Exodus, an immortal psychic mutant who fashions himself as the heir to Magneto. Up to this point Quicksilver has lost every battle he's ever had against Exodus, but in this mini he gains the power of Isotope E, an artificial isotope developed by the High Evolutionary that acts as a MacGuffin form of SuperEmpowering. While in possession of Isotope E Quicksilver's SuperSpeed is boosted to Franchise/{{Superman}} levels (he is described as literally being faster than thought now), allowing him to defeat Exodus for the first (and to date only) time.



* An early issue of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' has the titular team struggling with the Mad Thinker's Monster Android, who was so tough they were only able to defeat it by luring it into the Negative Zone portal. 100 issues or so later, the team takes out multiple androids of this type easily, and later on Sue defeats some by herself.

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* An early issue of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'s most well-known enemy is ComicBook/{{Sabretooth}}, a psychopathic SerialKiller mutant who has a nearly identical mutation to Wolverine but is bigger, stronger and just plain ''meaner'' than the titular team struggling with ol' Canucklehead... at least, that's the Mad Thinker's Monster Android, who was so tough they were only able to defeat way it by luring it into the Negative Zone portal. 100 issues always starts, before Wolverine gets either an adamantium upgrade from Weapon X or so later, the team takes out multiple androids of this type easily, and later on Sue defeats some by herself.much-needed motivation to fight Sabretooth on his level. Either way, the end result is Creed getting left in the dust., Sometimes, like in the ''WesternAnimation/XMen'' cartoon, these events have already played out in the backstory, reducing Sabretooth to mere StarterVillain in the present day.
3rd Jul '16 5:46:34 AM Dark_Lord_
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* ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': A recurring theme in this series:
** When Orenn Pierre Alfonzo makes his first appearance as Kamen Rider Bravo, he really is a force to be reckoned with. In his early days, TheHero and TheRival had to work together to even put a dent on him. As the heroes got stronger and received several new forms, Kamen Rider Bravo turned from a credible threat to a recurring joke.
** Yggdrassil's New Generation Riders are the central threat during the second quarter of the series, but stop being this after TheHero unlocks his SuperMode.
1st Jun '16 6:45:01 AM Scrapperlock
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* Really, this is a fact of life for anyone who has a serious desire to improve themselves. Working a 50 hour week while raising children may sound like an impossible task when you're 18, only for you to gain enough time management skills to make it a breeze by the time you're 30.
20th Apr '16 11:53:51 PM SparkyLurkdragon
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** There's also the hilarious CurbStompBattle when you fight Baltor for the second time. The first time around, his pirate ship is a legitimate challenge. The second time, he's got exactly the same ship. You've got the [[CoolShip Delphinus]] and its [[WaveMotionGun Moon Stone Cannon]].
** Random ship battles in the overworld are geniunely hillarious once you get the Delphinus for a reason. They're a threat at first, when you have the Little Jack (a small wooden ship). Later on, they still have the same old wooden pirate ships, while you have a freaking metal *flying aircraft carrier*. It's the equivalent of attacking a modern aircraft carrier with an 18th century wooden ship, and the results are as expected. You basically 1-shot them with the weak attacks, no need to use the Moon Stone Cannon.

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** There's also the hilarious CurbStompBattle when you fight Baltor for the second time. The first time around, his pirate ship is a legitimate challenge. The second time, he's got exactly the same ship. You've got the [[CoolShip Delphinus]] and its her [[WaveMotionGun Moon Stone Cannon]].
** Random ship battles with Black Pirates in the overworld are geniunely hillarious genuinely hilarious once you get the Delphinus for a reason. They're a threat at first, when you have the Little Jack (a small wooden ship). Later on, they still have the same old wooden pirate ships, while you have a freaking metal *flying aircraft carrier*. ''metal destroyer''. It's the equivalent of attacking a modern aircraft carrier WWII destroyer with an 18th century wooden sailing ship, and the results are as expected. You basically 1-shot one-shot them with the weak attacks, no need to use the Moon Stone Cannon.Cannon. [[NoKillLikeOverKill Unless it amuses you, of course.]]
7th Apr '16 7:39:09 PM deven0711
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* Vergil in ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry 3'' goes from handing Dante his ass during their first encounter, to fighting him to a stand-still in their second, and finally losing to him in their third. However, it's not so much that Vergil forgot to level grind, since he actually gets progressively stronger just like Dante, gaining new weapons (Beowulf, Force Edge) and attacks, but Dante's just gaining much faster than he is.

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* Vergil in ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry 3'' has a more plot-oriented example. Vergil goes from handing Dante his ass during their first encounter, to fighting him to a stand-still in their second, and finally losing to him in their third. However, it's not so much that Vergil forgot to level grind, since he actually gets progressively stronger just like Dante, gaining new weapons (Beowulf, Force Edge) and attacks, but Dante's just gaining much faster than he is.
23rd Mar '16 4:21:53 AM Theokal3
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* [[MadScientist Doctor Animo]] from Franchise/{{Ben 10}}. When he was introduced in [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}} the Original Series]], Animo was considered something of Ben's third biggest nemesis. By the time of the sequels, Ben has [[TookALevelInBadass become much more powerful and experienced]], and [[OvershadowedByAwesome plenty of much more dangerous bad guys have shown up]], reducing Animo to little more than a standard enemy.

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* [[MadScientist Doctor Animo]] from Franchise/{{Ben 10}}. When he was introduced in [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}} the Original Series]], Animo was considered something of Ben's third biggest nemesis. By the time of the sequels, Ben has [[TookALevelInBadass become much more powerful and experienced]], and [[OvershadowedByAwesome plenty of much more dangerous bad guys have shown up]], reducing Animo the MadScientist to little more than a standard enemy.LaughablyEvil recurring rogue.
23rd Mar '16 4:16:52 AM Theokal3
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* [[MadScientist Doctor Animo]] from Franchise/{{Ben 10}}. When he was introduced in [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}} the Original Series]], Animo was considered something of Ben's third biggest nemesis. By the time of the sequels, Ben has [[TookALevelInBadass become much more powerful and experienced]], and [[OvershadowedByAwesome plenty of much more dangerous bad guys have shown up]], reducing Animo to little more than a standard enemy.
13th Mar '16 11:14:02 AM deven0711
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** Subverted in Episodes 40-49. In the former episode, "Meet the Dark Masters", Angemon takes two blasts from Machinedramon who comes out of nowhere and the impact is damaging enough to revert him back to rookie form Patamon. In Episode 49, he still gets outmatched by Machinedramon like the other Digimon before Wargreymon finally destroys him, but he is able to take two blasts at a faster firing rate without being de-digivolved. Being a champion, two whole ranks below Machinedramon, maybe this example isn't so mild.
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