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21st Aug '16 1:14:02 PM nombretomado
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* Surprisingly, EddieGuerrero. In 2005, he [[CerebusSyndrome went from]] being a vaguely comedic character to a monster determined to take ReyMysterio's son away from him, not to mention beating Rey to a bloody pulp and ripping off his mask - all because [[TheGreenEyedMonster he was envious of Mysterio's success]].
* {{Edge}} was also always generally funny, but that ended when in 2008 he cheated on his wife - ''on their wedding day'' - and was forced to face TheUndertaker in Hell in a Cell in retaliation. He suffered a VillainousBreakdown, leading to him dropping MickFoley through a table from a great height and stalking and jumping various members of his family and laying black roses on their unconscious bodies before launching a sneak attack on the rest in the ring and announcing he was going to [[TakingYouWithMe drag them all down to hell with him]].

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* Surprisingly, EddieGuerrero.Wrestling/EddieGuerrero. In 2005, he [[CerebusSyndrome went from]] being a vaguely comedic character to a monster determined to take ReyMysterio's son away from him, not to mention beating Rey to a bloody pulp and ripping off his mask - all because [[TheGreenEyedMonster he was envious of Mysterio's success]].
* {{Edge}} Wrestling/{{Edge}} was also always generally funny, but that ended when in 2008 he cheated on his wife - ''on their wedding day'' - and was forced to face TheUndertaker in Hell in a Cell in retaliation. He suffered a VillainousBreakdown, leading to him dropping MickFoley through a table from a great height and stalking and jumping various members of his family and laying black roses on their unconscious bodies before launching a sneak attack on the rest in the ring and announcing he was going to [[TakingYouWithMe drag them all down to hell with him]].
20th Aug '16 9:03:53 PM BoxerAndCrewSocks
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** The race of Unown, which are borderline EldritchAbominations. In [[Anime/{{Pokemon3}} the third movie]] they absorb a person alive, infest a lonely girl and let her do quite scary things, like freezing the entire city in crystal as well as kidnapping and brainwashing the hero's mother into thinking she's ''her'' dead mom.

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** The race of Unown, which are a borderline EldritchAbominations. EldritchAbomination. In [[Anime/{{Pokemon3}} the third movie]] they absorb a person alive, infest a lonely girl and let her do quite scary things, like freezing the entire city in crystal as well as kidnapping and brainwashing the hero's mother into thinking she's ''her'' dead mom.MissingMom.


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** Team Flare in the ''XYZ'' arc of the anime are shaping up to be this; largely eschewing the campier aspects of their game counterparts in favor of a darker rendition [[spoiler: more in line with that of BigBad Lysander, who is portrayed more or less accurately]].
17th Aug '16 8:05:39 AM shonengirl
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** The main games have [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Yakuza (Japanese version)/Mafia (International versions) stand-ins]] [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver involved in Pokémon trafficking and murder]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire eco-terrorists that nearly end the world]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl emotion-hating and omnicidal Cyrus]], [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite notorious childbreaker Ghetsis]], and [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY genocidal lunatic Lysandre]].
** The spinoff and side games have it worse: There's [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]] for one, but worst of all is [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet of mind-rapists known as Cipher]], who at points almost reach ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' villain levels of harsh. Not in terms of pure evil alone, but in how willing to not sugarcoat the whole thing the game is.

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** The main games have [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Yakuza (Japanese version)/Mafia (International versions) stand-ins]] [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver involved in Pokémon trafficking and murder]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire eco-terrorists that nearly end the world]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl emotion-hating and omnicidal Cyrus]], [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite notorious childbreaker and manipulator Ghetsis]], and [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY genocidal lunatic Lysandre]].
** The spinoff and side games have it worse: worse, especially standing out due to a lack of an objective outside of defeating them: There's [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]] for one, but worst of all is [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet cabinet]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness of mind-rapists known as Cipher]], who at points almost reach ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' villain levels of harsh. Not harsh; not only in terms of pure evil alone, alone for the latter, but in how willing to not sugarcoat the whole thing the game is.
17th Aug '16 7:58:44 AM shonengirl
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A violation of [[{{Consistency}} Genre Consistency]]. Compare and contrast the CrapsaccharineWorld, where it's not just the villain, but the ''entire world'' that is rotten to the core. A major cause of SugarApocalypse and SurpriseCreepy.

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A violation of [[{{Consistency}} Genre Consistency]]. Compare and contrast the CrapsaccharineWorld, where it's not just the villain, but the ''entire world'' that is rotten to the core. Also compare WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids. A major cause of SugarApocalypse and SurpriseCreepy.



** The spinoff and side games have it worse: There's [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]] for one, but worst of all is [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet of mind-rapists known as Cipher]], who at points almost reach ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' villain levels of harsh.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' have Team Plasma and the aforementioned Ghetsis freezing part of the continent using the power of Kyurem. Oh yeah, he's also completely lost his mind and attempts to freeze [[PlayerChatacter a young teenager]] alive, with ''giant icicles'', using said OlmpusMons.

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** The spinoff and side games have it worse: There's [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]] for one, but worst of all is [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet of mind-rapists known as Cipher]], who at points almost reach ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' villain levels of harsh.
harsh. Not in terms of pure evil alone, but in how willing to not sugarcoat the whole thing the game is.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' have Team Plasma and the aforementioned Ghetsis freezing part of the continent using the power of Kyurem. Oh yeah, he's also completely lost his mind and attempts to freeze [[PlayerChatacter [[PlayerCharacter a young teenager]] alive, with ''giant icicles'', icicles'' no less, using said OlmpusMons.OlympusMons.
17th Aug '16 7:49:22 AM shonengirl
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As one could tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, so terrifying, that they clash harshly with the tone of the work. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story they're in, this trope can overlap with KnightOfCerebus, as well as, if they're bad enough, CompleteMonster. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the CerebusRollercoaster. [[TropeAreTools Done well]], it provides a powerful contrast.

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As one could tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, so terrifying, that they clash harshly with the tone of the work. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story they're in, this trope can overlap with KnightOfCerebus, as well as, if they're bad enough, CompleteMonster. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the CerebusRollercoaster. [[TropeAreTools [[TropesAreTools Done well]], it provides a powerful contrast.



* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise, and [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] usually light-hearted and normally has a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, but it still has:
** The coldhearted DiabolicalMastermind Giovanni, and the psychic Gym Leader with a split personality Sabrina, in the Kanto Saga.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise, franchise is usually seen as innocent and child-friendly, and this especially applies to the main [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] usually light-hearted and normally has anime]], with a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, antagonists most of the time, but it still has:
** The coldhearted DiabolicalMastermind Giovanni, Giovanni (who albeit gets a massive case of BadassDecay later on), and the psychic Gym Leader with a split personality Sabrina, in the Kanto Saga.



** As of ''Best Wishes'', the usually goofy, incompetent TerribleTrio [[TookALevelInBadass isn't so goofy and incompetent anymore]], and the ''Episode N'' arc has [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Ghetsis]], [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Colress]], and Team Plasma. Whenever they show up, expect the mood to drop dramatically and the battles to get more intense.
** ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' (because it's a faithful retelling of the ''Pokemon Red and Blue'' games) discards this trope outright with Team Rocket, in a stark contrast to their [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain depiction]] in the anime. Just like the games, they actually kill Pokémon, and they're shown conducting horrible experiments on them, too. Giovanni's reasoning for doing all this? [[KickTheDog Because a Pokemon-based society is a business, and Pokemon are tools for business.]]
** The race of Unown, which are borderline EldritchAbomination. In [[Anime/{{Pokemon3}} the third movie]] they absorb a person alive, and infest a lonely girl and let her do quite scary things, like freezing the entire city in crystal as well as kidnapping and brainwashing the hero's mother into thinking she's ''her'' dead mom.

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** As of ''Best Wishes'', the usually goofy, incompetent TerribleTrio [[TookALevelInBadass isn't so goofy and incompetent anymore]], and the ''Episode N'' arc has [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Ghetsis]], Ghetsis]] (albeit toned down from his game incarnation), [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Colress]], and Team Plasma. Whenever they show up, expect the mood to drop dramatically and the battles to get more intense.
** ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' (because it's a faithful retelling of the ''Pokemon Red and Blue'' games) discards plays this trope outright straight with Team Rocket, despite the already somewhat harsher tone of the special, in a stark contrast to their [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain depiction]] in the anime. Just like the games, they actually kill Pokémon, and they're shown conducting horrible experiments on them, too. Giovanni's reasoning for doing all this? [[KickTheDog Because a Pokemon-based society is a business, and Pokemon are tools for business.]]
** The race of Unown, which are borderline EldritchAbomination. EldritchAbominations. In [[Anime/{{Pokemon3}} the third movie]] they absorb a person alive, and infest a lonely girl and let her do quite scary things, like freezing the entire city in crystal as well as kidnapping and brainwashing the hero's mother into thinking she's ''her'' dead mom.



** ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'' is about a WildChild named Hareta, who has more than a few [[{{expy}} resemblances]] to [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]], going on a journey. It's all fun and games except for Team Galactic, who is presented just as intimidating as they are in the games and then some. [[spoiler:It doesn't help that his best friend Mitsumi is an ex-Galactic member (and a [[TykeBomb ferociously strong]] one at that) who is blackmailed into rejoining and gives his Pokemon a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown]].

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** ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'' ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' is about a WildChild named Hareta, who has more than a few [[{{expy}} resemblances]] to [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]], going on a journey. It's all fun and games except for Team Galactic, who is presented just as intimidating as they are in the games and then some. [[spoiler:It doesn't help that his best friend Mitsumi is an ex-Galactic member (and a [[TykeBomb ferociously strong]] one at that) who is blackmailed into rejoining and gives his Pokemon a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown]].



** The main games have [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Yakuza stand-ins involved in Pokémon trafficking and murder]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire eco-terrorists that nearly end the world]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl emotion-hating and omnicidal Cyrus]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]], [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite notorious childbreaker Ghetsis]], [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY genocidal lunatic Lysandre]], and worst of all, [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet of mind-rapists known as Cipher]].
** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' have Team Plasma and the aforementioned Ghetsis freezing part of the continent using the power of Kyurem.

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** The main games have [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Yakuza stand-ins (Japanese version)/Mafia (International versions) stand-ins]] [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver involved in Pokémon trafficking and murder]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire eco-terrorists that nearly end the world]], [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl emotion-hating and omnicidal Cyrus]], [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]], [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite notorious childbreaker Ghetsis]], and [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY genocidal lunatic Lysandre]], Lysandre]].
** The spinoff
and side games have it worse: There's [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger murderous misanthrope Purple Eyes]] for one, but worst of all, all is [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum the abominable cabinet of mind-rapists known as Cipher]].
Cipher]], who at points almost reach ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' villain levels of harsh.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'' have Team Plasma and the aforementioned Ghetsis freezing part of the continent using the power of Kyurem. Oh yeah, he's also completely lost his mind and attempts to freeze [[PlayerChatacter a young teenager]] alive, with ''giant icicles'', using said OlmpusMons.
16th Aug '16 7:22:20 AM Robergestudios
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* [[BigBad The Emperor of the Night]] from PinocchioAndTheEmperorOfTheNight is the cruel ruler of a nightmarish dimension, who gains power by trapping souls in his domain, while weakening the Blue Fairy enough so that he can destroy her. Working through his vile human henchman, [[TheDragon Puppetino]], they lure and tempt numerous victims into signing away their freedoms, and [[AndIMustScream turn them into lifeless puppets for all eternity]]; one of the countless puppets trapped in the empire of the night includes a woman holding her baby. The Emperor soon targets Pinocchio as his next victim, and has Puppetino lure Pinocchio with [[WouldHurtAChild a little girl]] they captured and turned into a puppet. Using magic from his master, Puppetino then transforms Pinocchio into a lifeless puppet, but not before torturing Pinocchio for his amusement. When Pinocchio is freed by the Blue Fairy, the Emperor manipulates Pinocchio and his friends into entering his domain. He uses Gepetto as his hostage, in order to coerce Pinocchio into signing away his freedom willingly, so that the Blue Fairy cannot save him. Pinocchio submits as long as his friends and father go free, until the Emperor orders Puppetino to take them all into the dungeon anyway. Once Pinocchio fights back, [[BadBoss the Emperor smites Puppetino]] for his cowardice, and threatens to harm Gepetto if Pinocchio does not obey.
14th Aug '16 12:52:09 AM AgentTasmania
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As one could tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, so terrifying, that they clash harshly with the tone of the work. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story they're in, this trope can overlap with KnightOfCerebus, as well as, if they're bad enough, CompleteMonster. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the CerebusRollercoaster.

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As one could tell, this trope is about villains in normally lighthearted fiction that are so disturbing, so terrifying, that they clash harshly with the tone of the work. Because of this type of villain's ability to ruin the mood of the story they're in, this trope can overlap with KnightOfCerebus, as well as, if they're bad enough, CompleteMonster. If a series has a lot of villains like this, then it's taking a ride on the CerebusRollercoaster.
CerebusRollercoaster. [[TropeAreTools Done well]], it provides a powerful contrast.
11th Aug '16 5:01:41 AM Midna
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is a very quirky RPG in the vein of ''VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}'', with a myriad of goofy and likable characters, and even includes talking down enemies from fighting as a major gameplay mechanic. And then there's three villains who provide the greatest amount of NightmareFuel in the game: Flowey, a sadistic flower who pulls plenty of {{Nightmare Face}}s and constantly taunts the player and revels in their misery [[spoiler: before stealing Asgore's six human souls and transforming into an EldritchAbomination intent on torturing and killing the player over and over again. The second is the First Child, a CreepyChild responsible for nearly every single bad thing that happened in the game's backstory, and possibly even the one who corrupted Flowey into the monster that he is now. The third and final villain is ''you''. Or to be more specific, you if you decide to go for the [[KillEmAll Genocide route]] and turn the entire game into pure tragic NightmareFuel as you systematically murder every single monster in the Underground, egged on by Flowey and heavily aided by the First Child. At the end of the massacure, Flowey dies and the First Child destroys the world.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is a very quirky RPG in the vein of ''VideoGame/{{Earthbound}}'', with a myriad of goofy and likable characters, and even includes talking down enemies from fighting as a major gameplay mechanic. And then there's three villains who provide the greatest amount of NightmareFuel in the game: Flowey, a sadistic flower who pulls plenty of {{Nightmare Face}}s and constantly taunts the player and revels in their misery [[spoiler: before stealing Asgore's six human souls and transforming into an EldritchAbomination intent on torturing and killing the player over and over again. The second is the First Child, a CreepyChild responsible for nearly every single bad thing that happened in the game's backstory, and possibly even the one who corrupted Flowey into the monster that he is now. The third and final villain is ''you''.''you'', the player. Or to be more specific, you if you decide to go for the [[KillEmAll Genocide route]] and turn the entire game into pure tragic NightmareFuel as you systematically murder every single monster in the Underground, egged on by Flowey and heavily aided by the First Child. At the end of the massacure, massacre, Flowey dies and the First Child destroys the world.]]
5th Aug '16 4:43:19 PM ZimFan89
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* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise, and [[Anime/Pokemon anime]] usually light-hearted and normally has a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, but it still has:

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* The ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise, and [[Anime/Pokemon [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]] usually light-hearted and normally has a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, but it still has:
2nd Aug '16 11:48:38 PM Wkenneth334
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime is usually light-hearted and normally has a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, but it still has:

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
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The ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime is ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise, and [[Anime/Pokemon anime]] usually light-hearted and normally has a goofy and incompetent TerribleTrio composing of two delinquents and a talking Meowth as the primary antagonists, but it still has:
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