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25th Nov '16 6:16:40 PM Xtifr
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* Creator/PattonOswalt often lampshades this; he'll make a reference to Creator/HPLovecraft (or something), then lambaste himself for going over the audience's heads, then start coming up with even more obscure references, like Creator/ArthurMachen or Frank Belknap Long.

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* Creator/PattonOswalt often lampshades this; he'll make a reference to Creator/HPLovecraft (or something), then lambaste himself for going over the audience's heads, then start coming up with even more obscure references, like Creator/ArthurMachen or Frank Belknap Long.Creator/FrankBelknapLong.
14th Nov '16 4:52:07 PM FordPrefect
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* Possibly the worst example of this is ''Mohsen Namjoo,'' an Iranian singer-songwriter, often referred to as the Music/BobDylan (Read: Music/FrankZappa) of UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}. Western listeners would be baffled because he writes lyrics in Farsi, uses a traditional Iranian music ensemble, almost never writes in 4/4, and alludes constantly to years of Persian poetic and literary tradition. Iranian listeners are often baffled because he mixes traditional Iranian folk and classical music with Western instruments, jazz, rock, blues, and flamenco influences, covers [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCqbyljZ6U David Bowie]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_I4rrvSHoc Nirvana,]] uses parodies, subversions, and references to poets such as Hafez, Rumi, and Ferdosi, makes fun of the Islamic regime and Khamenei ''constantly,'' and occasionally throws in the odd song in Kurdish or some other regional Iranian language.

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* Possibly the worst example of this is ''Mohsen Namjoo,'' an Iranian singer-songwriter, often referred to as the Music/BobDylan (Read: (read: Music/FrankZappa) of UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}. Western listeners would be baffled because he writes lyrics in Farsi, uses a traditional Iranian music ensemble, almost never writes in 4/4, and alludes constantly to years of Persian poetic and literary tradition. Iranian listeners are often baffled because he mixes traditional Iranian folk and classical music with Western instruments, jazz, rock, blues, and flamenco influences, covers [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOCqbyljZ6U David Bowie]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_I4rrvSHoc Nirvana,]] uses parodies, subversions, and references to poets such as Hafez, Rumi, and Ferdosi, makes fun of the Islamic regime and Khamenei ''constantly,'' and occasionally throws in the odd song in Kurdish or some other regional Iranian language.
14th Nov '16 4:50:31 PM FordPrefect
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** ''Series/{{QI}}'' turns it on its ear. Not only do the viewers generally not know the right answer, it's fairly rare than any of the "contestants" have any idea what's going on, even after the answer is explained. But that's kind of the point.

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** ''Series/{{QI}}'' turns it on its ear. Not only do the viewers generally not know the right answer, it's fairly rare than any of the "contestants" have any idea what's going on, even after the answer is explained. But that's kind of the point. For a show about comedians (and the odd political figure) talking about whatever happens to cross their mind, the show is extremely smart. Creator/StephenFry is a certified genius to begin with, then adding in questions that question common knowledge ("How many moons does the Earth have?"[[note]]It's still one, but science at the time [[ScienceMarchesOn classified other small, wide-orbiting bodies as moons to Earth as well, giving us officially "2", then later "4", before being reclassified so we are back to one]][[/note]]), ''then'' the fact that the comedians are often specialized geniuses themselves.



* ''Series/{{QI}}'': For a show about comedians (and the odd political figure) talking about whatever happens to cross their mind, the show is extremely smart. Creator/StephenFry is a certified genius to begin with, then adding in questions that question common knowledge ("How many moons does the Earth have?"[[note]]It's still one, but science at the time [[ScienceMarchesOn classified other small, wide-orbiting bodies as moons to Earth as well, giving us officially "2", then later "4", before being reclassified so we are back to one]][[/note]]), ''then'' the fact that the comedians are often specialized geniuses themselves.
14th Nov '16 4:49:08 PM FordPrefect
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** ''Frasier'' gets a special mention for being one of the shows that pulled it off well while still getting high ratings. Frasier, Niles, and some of their highbrow friends frequently make reference to all manner of obscure, highbrow things, often within the subcultural worlds of opera, wine appreciation, and psychology. They're particularly fun of clever puns or sassy insults that show off their knowledge, though these can be difficult to follow for the un-elite.



* ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' definitely qualifies, and gets a special mention for being one of the shows that pulled it off well while still getting high ratings. Frasier, Niles, and some of their highbrow friends frequently make reference to all manner of obscure, highbrow things, often within the subcultural worlds of opera, wine appreciation, and psychology. They're particularly fun of clever puns or sassy insults that show off their knowledge, though these can be difficult to follow for the un-elite.
31st Oct '16 9:59:11 PM PaulA
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* Creator/PamelaDean's ''Secret Country'' books hold your attention even if you don't know Shakespeare, Chaucer et al., but if you do, you'll discover greater dimension to the storyline and the characters.

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* Creator/PamelaDean's ''Secret Country'' ''Literature/TheSecretCountry'' books hold your attention even if you don't know Shakespeare, Chaucer et al., but if you do, you'll discover greater dimension to the storyline and the characters.
30th Oct '16 5:45:41 AM AnotherDuck
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* A lot of [[MemeticMutation memes]]. Just try asking (most) anyone who knows about a particular Internet meme what it means, or how it came to be.
** Although most of the time they will simply tell you to "[[ReadTheFreakingManual LURK MOAR]]".



* Many proprietary software end-user license agreements work under the assumption that the person installing the software is either a trained lawyer or can afford to engage the services of one every time they decide to install a piece of software. Though this is probably reasonable when the customer is a large company with lawyers on staff, it's definitely not when you're just selling to ordinary people. Alternatively, they are working under the assumption that nobody reads the dratted things anyway. They could probably include the line "You agree to give Satan the eternal rights to your immortal soul" in those exact words and most people wouldn't ever know. After the initial Google Chrome license fiasco, it was pretty obvious that a lot of companies that use them don't read the EULA's either. Or are just good liars.
27th Oct '16 12:00:32 AM Stealth
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* Most viewers can enjoy ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' for its story and presentation, but an extensive knowledge of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII-era armored fighting vehicles, weapons, military tactics, and other wartime esoterica definitely helps. For instance, why is Leopon team called that, and why is that particular tank in the hands of the Automotive Club? You'd first have to know that a leopon is a hybrid big cat (leopard and lioness crossbreeding), and that their Tiger (P) tank uses a hybrid transmission (petrol engines mated to electric motors). You'd then have to remember that while the gun worked fine, the Tiger (P) was more infamous for its notoriously unreliable motive systems--it's with Automotive Club because no other team would have the time or patience to make it work.
17th Oct '16 11:06:09 AM zzedar
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* ''Literature/{{Unsong}}'' is full of multilingual puzzles and puns, as well as obscure trivia, history, poetry and kabbalah references. It may have an excuse: before writing it, the author surveyed his fanbase and found an [[http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/04/2014-ssc-survey-results/ average IQ of 139]]. Nevertheless, he's been [[http://unsongbook.com/chapter-5-never-seek-to-tell-thy-love/#li-comment-704 disappointed]] in how many references people have missed.

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* ''Literature/{{Unsong}}'' is full of multilingual puzzles and puns, as well as obscure trivia, history, poetry and kabbalah references. It may have an excuse: before writing it, the author surveyed his fanbase and found an [[http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/04/2014-ssc-survey-results/ average IQ of 139]]. Nevertheless, he's been [[http://unsongbook.com/chapter-5-never-seek-to-tell-thy-love/#li-comment-704 disappointed]] in by how many references people have missed.
2nd Oct '16 5:41:55 AM thrrrp
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It is this distinction which is why you see so much dissonance in understanding humor as a general topic. It is far easier for the LowestCommonDenominator to "get" a joke, if there is a [[ButtMonkey clear "butt"]] of the joke. However, people who really follow humor aren't aiming to disparage people, but are instead in finding out the TwistEnding, or the {{Pun}}. Racist humor, gender humor, TooSoon humor is still humor - but many people won't find it "funny" because ''you have to think about it'', or ''have to have it explained''.

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It is this distinction which is why you see so much dissonance in understanding humor as a general topic. It is far easier for the LowestCommonDenominator to "get" a joke, if there is a [[ButtMonkey clear "butt"]] of the joke. However, people who really follow humor aren't aiming to disparage people, but are instead in finding out the TwistEnding, or the {{Pun}}. Racist humor, gender humor, TooSoon humor is still humor - but many people won't find it "funny" because ''you have to think about it'', or ''have to have it explained''.
{{Pun}}.
24th Sep '16 3:34:35 PM dlchen145
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* [=Kalash93=] plays with this trope on occasion. To properly understand some of his stories, you have to understand Soviet and Russian military doctrine, firearms terminology, Pashtunwali, have a working knowledge of asymmetric warfare, and an understanding of defense contracting.
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