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24th Sep '16 3:34:35 PM dlchen145
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* [=Kalash93=] plays with this trope on occasion. To properly understand some of his stories, you have to understand Soviet and Russian military doctrine, firearms terminology, Pashtunwali, have a working knowledge of asymmetric warfare, and an understanding of defense contracting.
14th Sep '16 11:01:22 AM hszmv1
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'' series, especially the later games, generally require you to know the history of the civilization to get why they get certain benefits or why their AI act in certain ways. That's fine as many of the staple civilizations are very well known in the real world. It makes sense that America and Russia and expansionist and gets bonus to acquiring territory because both nations are among the largest in the globe by area. It also makes sense that Eygypt gets bonus to building wonders because it's famed for it's unique monuments. But then you get civilizations that are a bit obscure (Civ V featured the Songhia.). Understanding the AI leader's responses also requires knowing that particular leader's real life behavior or real life policies of the country. The Nuclear Ghandi meme is funny because it's based on a glitch making Ghandi more aggressive in the original game, but India is part of TheNuclearClub and has been one of the more nations that has been more aggressive with it's nuclear force in recent history.
29th Aug '16 5:56:34 AM kensu
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* The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' first season episode Damien was about the final confrontation between Jesus and Satan. Early in the episode Damien proves his power by turning Kenny into a duck-billed platypus. The boys go to visit Jesus as he's training, and ask him if will cure Kenny if he wins. Jesus gets indignant and says: "what do you mean IF I win?" This is a reference to an incident that only occurs in the Gospel of Mark, where Jesus gets angry when someone asks him to cure his daughter "if he can".
25th Jul '16 9:07:09 AM AnotherDuck
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* BilingualBonus is usually a GeniusBonus but overuse, often combined with having to "get" them in order to understand the plot, falls into this.



* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''
** It has [=Ryukishi07=] go on about the basics of Schrodinger's Cat, Raven Paradox, and Devil's Proof. He also makes lengthy articles about his philosophies of anti-mystery, cultural noise, and chessboard logic. And to top it off, he makes numerous references to famous mystery writers. However, his critics accuse him of not knowing what he's talking about, even when it comes to his own inventions.
** Counterargument: [[spoiler: Shkanonyasutrice. The Second or, possibly, the Third]].



* Shizune's route in ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' has a very subtle narrative style that requires a lot of reading between the lines in order to truly understand, especially when it comes to the dynamics of Shizune and Hisao's relationship. It also helps to have a working understanding of the subtleties of how sign language works as a medium of communication and how it differs from spoken language. Unless they are really paying attention, a lot of this will go over most players' heads, leading to people complaining about the "lack of romance" in her route.
** Rin's route is as much a mediation on the nature of genius, philosophy of art, and the question of whether or not it is truly possible for two people to understand one another (as well as whether it really matters), as it is an [[HGame eroge]] love story.



* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', several puzzles as well as aspects of the plot involve the use of hexadecimals and bases in numbers. The first time a puzzle involving it comes up, you're given the change to work everything out yourself, without the game even explaining how hexadecimals work. Although, if you need it, the game does give you a run down on the basics of it. However, there's a number of times when hexadecimals come up later on in the game after this point: At these moments you're expected to remember everything you learnt about it. If you don't, then you'll be forced to either go back and refresh yourself on it by starting a new playthrough, or research it yourself. Or just try everything until you eventually get it by luck.


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* ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'':
** Shizune's route has a very subtle narrative style that requires a lot of reading between the lines in order to truly understand, especially when it comes to the dynamics of Shizune and Hisao's relationship. It also helps to have a working understanding of the subtleties of how sign language works as a medium of communication and how it differs from spoken language. Unless they are really paying attention, a lot of this will go over most players' heads, leading to people complaining about the "lack of romance" in her route.
** Rin's route is as much a mediation on the nature of genius, philosophy of art, and the question of whether or not it is truly possible for two people to understand one another (as well as whether it really matters), as it is an [[HGame eroge]] love story.
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', several puzzles as well as aspects of the plot involve the use of hexadecimals and bases in numbers. The first time a puzzle involving it comes up, you're given the change to work everything out yourself, without the game even explaining how hexadecimals work. Although, if you need it, the game does give you a run down on the basics of it. However, there's a number of times when hexadecimals come up later on in the game after this point: At these moments you're expected to remember everything you learnt about it. If you don't, then you'll be forced to either go back and refresh yourself on it by starting a new playthrough, or research it yourself. Or just try everything until you eventually get it by luck.
* ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''
** It has [=Ryukishi07=] go on about the basics of Schrodinger's Cat, Raven Paradox, and Devil's Proof. He also makes lengthy articles about his philosophies of anti-mystery, cultural noise, and chessboard logic. And to top it off, he makes numerous references to famous mystery writers. However, his critics accuse him of not knowing what he's talking about, even when it comes to his own inventions.
** Counterargument: [[spoiler: Shkanonyasutrice. The Second or, possibly, the Third]].
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16th Jul '16 9:21:09 AM lledsmar
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* ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'', Creator/WaltDisney's [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon third animated film]], was based mostly around the assumption that viewers liked and appreciated classical music and abstract imagery just as much as he did. Although the film has been VindicatedByHistory, at the time of its release it was a massive box office flop; even his brother/business partner Roy was skeptical of the film, claiming that there should have at least been some sequences in the film based on more popular forms of music. The studio's next music anthology ''Disney/MakeMineMusic'' would feature a mostly pop-based soundtrack, while the sequences that were based on other forms of music like classical and opera (such as "Peter and the Wolf" and "The Whale Who Wanted to Sing at the Met") had narrators and full story lines.

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* ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'', Creator/WaltDisney's [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon third animated film]], was based mostly around the assumption that viewers liked and appreciated classical music and abstract imagery just as much as he did. Although the film has been VindicatedByHistory, at the time of its release it was a massive box office flop; even his brother/business partner Roy was skeptical of the film, claiming that there should have at least been some sequences in the film based on more popular forms of music. The studio's next music anthology ''Disney/MakeMineMusic'' would feature a mostly pop-based soundtrack, while the sequences that were based on other forms of music like classical and opera (such as "Peter and the Wolf" and "The Whale Who Wanted to Sing at the Met") had narrators and full story lines.lines (both films are good in each merits).
15th Jul '16 2:25:41 PM lledsmar
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* Creator/LarryNiven expects his readers to be conversant in a basic level of physics. His character will occasionally mention some scientific principle, but will ''never'' explain that principle, or why it's important to the story, because they (the characters) already know what it means. So when a character mentions it takes six hours to get a message because of light-speed delay, or mentions the tidal differential of a ship in orbit around a neutron star, or starts talking about a thickened gas torus in high gravity rotational environment and it confuses you, Niven expects you to do the research and keep up.

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* Creator/LarryNiven expects his readers to be conversant in a basic level of physics. His character will occasionally mention some scientific principle, but will ''never'' explain that principle, or why it's important to the story, because they (the characters) already characteralready know what it means. So when a character mentions it takes six hours to get a message because of light-speed delay, or mentions the tidal differential of a ship in orbit around a neutron star, or starts talking about a thickened gas torus in high gravity rotational environment and it confuses you, Niven expects you to do the research and keep up.



** Least we forget, ''WesternAnimation/Futurama''.

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** Least we forget, ''WesternAnimation/Futurama''.''Futurama''.
15th Jul '16 2:24:10 PM lledsmar
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**Least we forget, ''WesternAnimation/Futurama''.
6th Jul '16 11:51:46 PM CassandraLeo
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** Music/{{Gorguts}}, starting with ''Obscura'', are effectively the TechnicalDeathMetal version of Captain Beefheart (see below). To understand their music properly it helps to have a working knowledge of death metal, ProgressiveRock, AvantGardeMusic, twentieth-century ClassicalMusic, and several other genres. A thorough background in music theory won't hurt either. To understand their lyrics, it helps to have a detailed understanding of history and various forms of mythology. Even with those under your belt, most of their albums won't even begin to make sense until you've listened to them at least ten times.

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** Music/{{Gorguts}}, starting with ''Obscura'', are effectively the TechnicalDeathMetal version of Captain Beefheart (see below). To understand their music properly it helps to have a working knowledge of death metal, ProgressiveRock, AvantGardeMusic, twentieth-century ClassicalMusic, and several other genres. A thorough background in music theory won't hurt either. (Bandleader Luc Lemay has acknowledged Music/DmitriShostakovich and Krzysztof Penderecki as major influences on his writing, if that gives you any indication what you're in for.) To understand their lyrics, it helps to have a detailed understanding of history and various forms of mythology. Even with those under your belt, most of their albums won't even begin to make sense until you've listened to them at least ten times. They'll also be terrifying on the first several listens, even if you already have thorough familiarity with death metal.
** Similar to Gorguts (and probably influenced by them) are the French BlackMetal band Music/DeathspellOmega. Starting with the 75-minute ConceptAlbum ''Si monumentum reqiures, circumspice'', the band began a highly philosophical series of concept albums filled with absurdly complex musical and lyrical concepts. If you haven't made a thorough study of Christian theology and several major schools of philosophy such as existentialism, good luck understanding their lyrics. You'll probably also need to consult a dictionary to understand the English lyrics, and working knowledge of languages like French, Latin, and German won't hurt, either. Meanwhile, their songs, which often go on for as long as twenty-two minutes, bear little to no resemblance to traditional metal compositions. Again, working knowledge of genres like ProgressiveRock, AvantGardeMusic and twentieth-century ClassicalMusic will help, and again, their music will be terrifying on the first several listens even if you're already familiar with black metal. The fact that "Gorguts are the new Deathspell Omega" has become a MemeticMutation probably tells you all you need to know about the similarity between the two bands.
29th Jun '16 2:48:07 AM LinTaylor
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* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' has an example of this with an EasterEgg. Using the Cryptographic Sequencer, one can find three hidden radio frequencies, each of which has a computer voice reading off a sequence of numbers. The first is a standard "letter number" cypher (1 = A, 2 = B, etc); easy enough. The second is an inverted letter number cypher with all the numbers shifted up by 3 (4 = Z, 5 = Y, etc); a bit tougher, but a reasonably clever player could figure it out. The last, however, requires the player to run the numbers through '''three''' separate cyphers (letter number, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atbash Atbash]], and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigen%C3%A8re_cipher Vigenére]]), including guessing the keyword for the latter ([[spoiler:"Scarecrow"]]) to decrypt it. Put together, the three messages (plus the aforementioned keyword) make up a giant SequelHook teasing [[spoiler:Scarecrow being the BigBad of the next game, ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'']]. The game's director Sefton Hill [[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/03/26/batman-s-easter-egg-hunt.aspx said]] that he never thought anyone would crack the codes, only for it to happen about two weeks later.
2nd Jun '16 10:18:52 AM merotoker
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** Not to mention Schrödinger, who is based on a [[SchroedingersCat thought concept of quantum physics]] that baffles even those in the sciences from time to time. Many viewers may never have even heard of the concept, which the show doesn't explain in great detail, either.

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** Not to mention Schrödinger, who is based on a [[SchroedingersCat [[UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat thought concept of quantum physics]] that baffles even those in the sciences from time to time. Many viewers may never have even heard of the concept, which the show doesn't explain in great detail, either.



** For a few examples: In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' The resolution of Saber's fight with Berserker is an absurd DeusExMachina unless you've read [[ArthurianLegend Malory]] and remember a few odd comments about how the magic system works from earlier in the story, and there's a couple of one-off lines in the Fate route that establish just how [[spoiler:Kotomine]] survives in Heaven's Feel, and in [[FateHollowAtaraxia Fate/Hollow/Ataraxia]] the only person who can beat [[spoiler:[[RogueProtagonist Bazett]]]] is [[spoiler:Lancer]] because of a few odd details about how their powers interact - [[spoiler: her invincible counterattack triggers when you start your attack; he [[RealityWarper starts his attack after he resolves it]].]]

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** For a few examples: In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' The resolution of Saber's fight with Berserker is an absurd DeusExMachina unless you've read [[ArthurianLegend [[Myth/KingArthur Malory]] and remember a few odd comments about how the magic system works from earlier in the story, and there's a couple of one-off lines in the Fate route that establish just how [[spoiler:Kotomine]] survives in Heaven's Feel, and in [[FateHollowAtaraxia Fate/Hollow/Ataraxia]] ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' the only person who can beat [[spoiler:[[RogueProtagonist Bazett]]]] is [[spoiler:Lancer]] because of a few odd details about how their powers interact - [[spoiler: her invincible counterattack triggers when you start your attack; he [[RealityWarper starts his attack after he resolves it]].]]it]]]].



** It has [=Ryukishi07=] go on about the basics of Schroedinger's Cat, Raven Paradox, and Devil's Proof. He also makes lengthy articles about his philosophies of anti-mystery, cultural noise, and chessboard logic. And to top it off, he makes numerous references to famous mystery writers. However, his critics accuse him of not knowing what he's talking about, even when it comes to his own inventions.
** Counterargument: [[spoiler: Shkanonyasutrice. The Second or, possibly, the Third.]]

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** It has [=Ryukishi07=] go on about the basics of Schroedinger's Schrodinger's Cat, Raven Paradox, and Devil's Proof. He also makes lengthy articles about his philosophies of anti-mystery, cultural noise, and chessboard logic. And to top it off, he makes numerous references to famous mystery writers. However, his critics accuse him of not knowing what he's talking about, even when it comes to his own inventions.
** Counterargument: [[spoiler: Shkanonyasutrice. The Second or, possibly, the Third.]]Third]].



* ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'' has got a ''very'' subtile one when it comes to Ratigan's DisneyVillainDeath. His ''foot'' slides on the clock hand of ''Big Ben'' when ''10 p.m.'' strikes, causing him to fall to his death. You don't get it ? We can't blame you. A not very well-known outside of England fact is that at ''11 p.m.'', there is a little tune playing in Big Ben. An even lesser-known fact is that there are actually lyrics written for this tune. What are they ?

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* ''Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective'' has got a ''very'' subtile subtle one when it comes to Ratigan's DisneyVillainDeath. His ''foot'' slides on the clock hand of ''Big Ben'' when ''10 p.m.'' strikes, causing him to fall to his death. You don't get it ? We can't blame you. A not very well-known outside of England fact is that at ''11 p.m.'', there is a little tune playing in Big Ben. An even lesser-known fact is that there are actually lyrics written for this tune. What are they ?



* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in Creator/IanFleming's ''Literature/JamesBond'' novel ''Literature/CasinoRoyale'', when M complains to one of his underlings that the report the underling wrote has a French sentence without any translation.

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* [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/IanFleming's ''Literature/JamesBond'' novel ''Literature/CasinoRoyale'', when M complains to one of his underlings that the report the underling wrote has a French sentence without any translation.



* The description of the [[{{Precursors}} Xunca]] [[LostSuperweapon superweapon]] in ''Flinx Transcendent'', the final book in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's HumanxCommonwealth series, is likely to be incomprehensible to anyone without at least a basic grasp of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory string theory]].

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* The description of the [[{{Precursors}} Xunca]] [[LostSuperweapon superweapon]] in ''Flinx Transcendent'', the final book in Creator/AlanDeanFoster's HumanxCommonwealth ''Literature/HumanxCommonwealth'' series, is likely to be incomprehensible to anyone without at least a basic grasp of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory string theory]].



* ''{{Series/Firefly}}'', "Objects In Space". Most blatantly the opening, but the whole thing is a philosophical statement on (one kind of) existentialism. Creator/JossWhedon's [[AllThereInTheManual DVD Commentary]] ''might'' help the viewer to get the point (that objects have the meaning that people choose to give them).

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* ''{{Series/Firefly}}'', "Objects In Space". Most blatantly the opening, but the whole thing is a philosophical statement on (one kind of) existentialism. Creator/JossWhedon's [[AllThereInTheManual DVD Commentary]] DVDCommentary ''might'' help the viewer to get the point (that objects have the meaning that people choose to give them).



** The ShinMegamiTensei franchise as a whole really [[ShownTheirWork does its research]] on world mythologies and religion. Your average player might be confused as to why Lucifer and Satan are two separate entities, and why you can find the latter chilling out with YHWH ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton the true name of God in Judaism]]) in ''Shin Megami Tensei 2''...unless they know or find out that in certain interpretations, Satan is a separate character who basically acts as [[GoodAngelBadAngel the devil on God's shoulder.]]

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** The ShinMegamiTensei Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei franchise as a whole really [[ShownTheirWork does its research]] on world mythologies and religion. Your average player might be confused as to why Lucifer and Satan are two separate entities, and why you can find the latter chilling out with YHWH ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton the true name of God in Judaism]]) in ''Shin Megami Tensei 2''...unless they know or find out that in certain interpretations, Satan is a separate character who basically acts as [[GoodAngelBadAngel the devil on God's shoulder.]]



** Rin's route is as much a mediation on the nature of genius, philosophy of art, and the question of whether or not it is truly possible for two people to understand one another (as well as whether it really matters), as it is an {{eroge}} love story.

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** Rin's route is as much a mediation on the nature of genius, philosophy of art, and the question of whether or not it is truly possible for two people to understand one another (as well as whether it really matters), as it is an {{eroge}} [[HGame eroge]] love story.



---> [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-01-23 Schlock fans get an A+. You are all far, far smarter than I gave you credit for.]]

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---> --> [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-01-23 Schlock fans get an A+. You are all far, far smarter than I gave you credit for.]]



** Although most of the time they will simply tell you to "[[{{RTFM}} LURK MOAR]]".

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** Although most of the time they will simply tell you to "[[{{RTFM}} "[[ReadTheFreakingManual LURK MOAR]]".



* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' takes this UptoEleven. It purposely leaves clues for its viewers to solve, sometimes years in advance. Some of the clues include [[CreativeClosingCredits cryptograms in the credits,]] backwards messages, and [[FreezeFrameBonus details hidden in the background.]] Creator Alex Hirsch has said that he did this so that if anyone was as weird as him, they would find what they're looking for.
** The best known example of this is when [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan rescued his twin brother, the author of the journals, from another dimension. Fans had guessed this twist nearly two years in advance of the episode's initial airing.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' takes this UptoEleven.UpToEleven. It purposely leaves clues for its viewers to solve, sometimes years in advance. Some of the clues include [[CreativeClosingCredits cryptograms in the credits,]] backwards messages, and [[FreezeFrameBonus details hidden in the background.]] Creator Alex Hirsch has said that he did this so that if anyone was as weird as him, they would find what they're looking for.
** The best known example of this is when [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan rescued his twin brother, the author of the journals, from another dimension. Fans had guessed this twist nearly two years in advance of the episode's initial airing.]]airing]].
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