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4th Feb '16 7:04:42 AM FF32
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* A great many ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' strips do this.
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* A great many ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' strips do this.

** The ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' actually [[PeripheryDemographic became quite popular among academics]] for its [[ShownTheirWork realistic portrayal]] of the natural world, including a foreword in the 2nd Far Side Gallery by a PHD (specializing in slugs).
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** The ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' actually [[PeripheryDemographic became quite popular among academics]] for its [[ShownTheirWork realistic portrayal]] of the natural world, including a foreword in the 2nd Far Side Gallery by a PHD (specializing in slugs).

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25th Jan '16 10:37:08 AM eroock
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totally unrelated topic
The public's been clamouring for some more intelligent television in the wake of RealityTV and LowestCommonDenominator {{Recycled Script}}s. So, you go and write a series loaded with difficult quantum mechanics, quoting obscure 17th-century philosophers, with characters who are [[ThePhilosopher philosophical]] {{Magnificent Bastard}}s who speak [[BilingualBonus a dozen languages]] while conversing to each other by sending Shakespearean Zen koans hidden into chess move patterns, and packed with [[RuleOfSymbolism allusions to ancient Sumerian religion]]. You make sure all your TechnoBabble is [[HowUnscientific scientifically plausible]] and go to great lengths to make sure [[AnachronismStew all your ancient Roman soldiers are wearing exact replicas of period equipment]]. Now it's TrueArt, right?
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The public's been clamouring for some more intelligent television in the wake of RealityTV and LowestCommonDenominator {{Recycled Script}}s. So, you go and write a series loaded with difficult quantum mechanics, quoting obscure 17th-century philosophers, with characters who are [[ThePhilosopher philosophical]] {{Magnificent Bastard}}s who speak [[BilingualBonus a dozen languages]] while conversing to each other by sending Shakespearean Zen koans hidden into chess move patterns, and packed with [[RuleOfSymbolism allusions to ancient Sumerian religion]]. You make sure all your TechnoBabble is [[HowUnscientific scientifically plausible]] plausible and go to great lengths to make sure [[AnachronismStew all your ancient Roman soldiers are wearing exact replicas of period equipment]]. Now it's TrueArt, right?
22nd Jan '16 6:00:20 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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I enjoyed those books at 10, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't nerdy.
* ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' falls firmly into this category, particularly for a children's series. While this is partially Lampshaded with the constant refrain of "a word which here means-" (which often is for words that are incredibly easy to understand), it still does not explain the constant references, particularly in character names (Esme Squalor, Nero the fiddle-playing principal, Frank and Earnest, Duncan and Isadora, Mr. Poe, etc.) or the convoluted plots and MindScrew themes. While many nerdy 10-year-olds have enjoyed every minute of these books, they live and breathe this trope. This actually tremendously increases 'family value' of the books, because they can be very entertaining to kids and parents alike.
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* ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' falls firmly into this category, particularly for a children's series. While this is partially Lampshaded with the constant refrain of "a word which here means-" (which often is for words that are incredibly easy to understand), it still does not explain the constant references, particularly in character names (Esme Squalor, Nero the fiddle-playing principal, Frank and Earnest, Duncan and Isadora, Mr. Poe, etc.) or the convoluted plots and MindScrew themes. While many nerdy 10-year-olds kids around the age of 10 have enjoyed every minute of these books, they live and breathe this trope. This actually tremendously increases 'family value' of the books, because they can be very entertaining to kids and parents alike.
21st Jan '16 10:38:18 AM Kakai
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* ''Webcomic/{{Godslave}}'' has a tiny bit of foreshadowing that can be easily deciphered if you have more than just passing knowledge of Egyptian mythology. [[spoiler:Set was a god of storms, which is how the Blacksmiths refer to the god who's supposed to be Anubis.]]
11th Jan '16 2:10:52 PM merotoker
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* Any especially clever, layered, or subtle satire has a tendency to go right over people's heads. Things like ''TheOnion'' or the aforementioned ''Series/BrassEye'' have had their material mistaken for real news on several occasions (the latter even counted on people not getting it and frequently made them an unwitting part of the joke). In fact, sometimes even when viewers ''are'' geniuses, they still can't pick out the satire due to PoesLaw.
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* Any especially clever, layered, or subtle satire has a tendency to go right over people's heads. Things like ''TheOnion'' ''Website/TheOnion'' or the aforementioned ''Series/BrassEye'' have had their material mistaken for real news on several occasions (the latter even counted on people not getting it and frequently made them an unwitting part of the joke). In fact, sometimes even when viewers ''are'' geniuses, they still can't pick out the satire due to PoesLaw.

** While difficult enough at parts the comparatively lightweight anime series has a tendency to have characters spout plot points (often convoluted political situations) at an accelerated clip. It then rarely, if ever, repeats itself. Example: In 2nd Gig the full source of the title 'Individual Eleven' and its supposed contents are explained once. Despite coming in in multiple episodes before and after the explanation. The extent of the subtleties in these conversations are enough to quickly lose all but astute Political Science majors the first time through, much more so than the sociology and philosophy references. Not to mention being [[spoiler:ultimately a RedHerring.]]
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** While difficult enough at parts the comparatively lightweight anime series has a tendency to have characters spout plot points (often convoluted political situations) at an accelerated clip. It then rarely, if ever, repeats itself. Example: In 2nd Gig the full source of the title 'Individual Eleven' and its supposed contents are explained once. Despite coming in in multiple episodes before and after the explanation. The extent of the subtleties in these conversations are enough to quickly lose all but astute Political Science majors the first time through, much more so than the sociology and philosophy references. Not to mention being [[spoiler:ultimately a RedHerring.]]RedHerring]].

* ''Franchise/NasuVerse''. Kinoko Nasu really, ''really'' loves winding philosophical debate, and he expects you to as well. The rules governing the 'verse can get pretty complex as well, with a huge amount of MrExposition giving [[InstructionalDialogue Instruction Dialogue]] regarding borderline game-breaking abilities. VisualNovel/FateStayNight is particularly guilty. For example, several sections will be dedicated to explaining the minute details as to why imagining swords into being real is a [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway stupid, useless form of magic]], and then later [[spoiler: Shirou manages to summon every sword ever made ''at the same time''.]] A point could be made that Nasu ''himself'' is sometimes baffled about all the stuff he crams into his works - at least that would explain why every single rule ever stated in his works gets consequently broken.
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* ''Franchise/NasuVerse''. Kinoko Nasu really, ''really'' loves winding philosophical debate, and he expects you to as well. The rules governing the 'verse can get pretty complex as well, with a huge amount of MrExposition giving [[InstructionalDialogue Instruction Dialogue]] regarding borderline game-breaking abilities. VisualNovel/FateStayNight ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is particularly guilty. For example, several sections will be dedicated to explaining the minute details as to why imagining swords into being real is a [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway stupid, useless form of magic]], and then later [[spoiler: Shirou manages to summon every sword ever made ''at the same time''.]] time'']]. A point could be made that Nasu ''himself'' is sometimes baffled about all the stuff he crams into his works - at least that would explain why every single rule ever stated in his works gets consequently broken.

** Counterargument: [[spoiler:Shkanonyasutrice.]] [[spoiler: The Second or, possibly, the Third.]]
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** Counterargument: [[spoiler:Shkanonyasutrice.]] [[spoiler: The Second or, possibly, the Third.]]Third]].

* Played with Creator/MotohirouKatou's work, especially ''Manga/{{QED}}'' and ''Manga/{{CMB}}''. The thing is, he always takes time to explains things that need explantion for most readers, but even with that, sometimes it still leaves us baffled (like Kana), especially things like [[EverybodyHatesMathematics mathematics and such]].
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* Played with Creator/MotohirouKatou's work, especially ''Manga/{{QED}}'' and ''Manga/{{CMB}}''. ''Manga/{{CMB}}'' The thing is, he always takes time to explains things that need explantion for most readers, but even with that, sometimes it still leaves us baffled (like Kana), especially things like [[EverybodyHatesMathematics mathematics and such]].

* You probably would not believe that ''Anime/StrikeWitches'' [[FanService of all things]] can be planted here. But apart from its [[{{Moe}} most obvious appeal]], it delves into ideas about AlternateReality, AlternateHistory, WorldWarII technology, {{Historical Injoke}}s, GunSafety, military organisation, its takes about the conflict in Europe, the conflict in Africa and other stuff. Did you know that the real Hartmann accidentially (?) took Hitler's hat because his own was gone? This is the basis for the PantyThief episode in season 1.
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* You probably would not believe that ''Anime/StrikeWitches'' [[FanService of all things]] can be planted here. But apart from its [[{{Moe}} most obvious appeal]], it delves into ideas about AlternateReality, AlternateHistory, WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII technology, {{Historical Injoke}}s, GunSafety, military organisation, its takes about the conflict in Europe, the conflict in Africa and other stuff. Did you know that the real Hartmann accidentially (?) took Hitler's hat because his own was gone? This is the basis for the PantyThief episode in season 1.

** One ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' shows a kangaroo on a street amongst some humans, and one of the humans is dead and has a boomerang in his head, and the kangaroo is thinking, "That was meant for me!" The strip requires you to know that boomerangs were originally Australian hunting weapons (though simply knowing kangaroos and boomerangs to both be things from Australia (which most people do) would no doubt be sufficient to get the joke).
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** One ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' strip shows a kangaroo on a street amongst some humans, and one of the humans is dead and has a boomerang in his head, and the kangaroo is thinking, "That was meant for me!" The strip requires you to know that boomerangs were originally Australian hunting weapons (though simply knowing kangaroos and boomerangs to both be things from Australia (which most people do) would no doubt be sufficient to get the joke).

* While ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' would seem to have ContinuityLockout due to LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, the characters that the reader needs to know are sufficiently introduced. But to fully appreciate the story, the reader needs to be familiar with the general evolution of the genre over the last 4 or 5 decades especially then recent trends in [[NinetiesAntihero characterization]] to understand what the story is commenting on and, in retrospect, its own place in [[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks changing the direction of the genre itself.]]
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* While ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' would seem to have ContinuityLockout due to LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, the characters that the reader needs to know are sufficiently introduced. But to fully appreciate the story, the reader needs to be familiar with the general evolution of the genre over the last 4 or 5 decades especially then recent trends in [[NinetiesAntihero characterization]] to understand what the story is commenting on and, in retrospect, its own place in [[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks changing the direction of the genre itself.]]

* The "A dance of Shadow and Light" series by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3779251/Ocadioan Ocadioan]] is so ripe with historic, cultural, language and mathematical references and hints that, [[WordOfGod in the author's own words at the end of the series,]] "''if you had even noticed half of them, then you would not have been surprised by any of the events that happened in the story or the series as a whole.''". Examples of his ''easy'' Easter eggs include [[spoiler: noticing the reference to the Damocles of Syracuse , and specifically the Sword of Damocles, noticing the name behind Project Faust (yes, [[DealWithTheDevil THAT Faust]], and a small FaustianRebellion has already been done by then)]], or figuring out that [[spoiler: Mercury's ''[[AndIMustScream death]]'' coincides with him being [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything 666 years old]] and having [[SealedEvilInACan having his soul trapped at the Earth's core]].]] ** The author is nice enough though to create a chapter in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8538822/10/A-dance-of-Shadow-and-Light-Sidestories Sidestories]] that explains the major plotpoints that the readers would ''very'' likely not have caught otherwise. And most of the references are merely Easter eggs anyway, though there is apparently ''another'' layer to deepen the story that is only accessed through the same sort of references and a fair amount of [[FridgeLogic Fridge Logic]]. An example of this is [[spoiler: having to notice and keep track of the irony of a main character in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9998018/1/Phoenix-fire Phoenix-fire]] mentioning that she would be thanked eventually by the people of AlagaŰsia [[HeWhoFightsMonsters for going to such lengths]] to kill [[ManipulativeBastard Mercury]], then abandoning it all near the end when all of her family and friends have been killed, only to then be thanked ''by'' Mercury ''[[ThanatosGambit right after she kills him]]''. ]]
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* The "A dance of Shadow and Light" series by [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/3779251/Ocadioan Ocadioan]] is so ripe with historic, cultural, language and mathematical references and hints that, [[WordOfGod in the author's own words at the end of the series,]] "''if you had even noticed half of them, then you would not have been surprised by any of the events that happened in the story or the series as a whole.''". Examples of his ''easy'' Easter eggs include [[spoiler: noticing the reference to the Damocles of Syracuse , and specifically the Sword of Damocles, noticing the name behind Project Faust (yes, [[DealWithTheDevil THAT Faust]], and a small FaustianRebellion has already been done by then)]], or figuring out that [[spoiler: Mercury's ''[[AndIMustScream death]]'' coincides with him being [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything 666 years old]] and having [[SealedEvilInACan having his soul trapped at the Earth's core]].]] core]]]]. ** The author is nice enough though to create a chapter in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8538822/10/A-dance-of-Shadow-and-Light-Sidestories Sidestories]] that explains the major plotpoints that the readers would ''very'' likely not have caught otherwise. And most of the references are merely Easter eggs anyway, though there is apparently ''another'' layer to deepen the story that is only accessed through the same sort of references and a fair amount of [[FridgeLogic Fridge Logic]].FridgeLogic. An example of this is [[spoiler: having to notice and keep track of the irony of a main character in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9998018/1/Phoenix-fire Phoenix-fire]] mentioning that she would be thanked eventually by the people of AlagaŰsia [[HeWhoFightsMonsters for going to such lengths]] to kill [[ManipulativeBastard Mercury]], then abandoning it all near the end when all of her family and friends have been killed, only to then be thanked ''by'' Mercury ''[[ThanatosGambit right after she kills him]]''. ]]him]]'']].

* ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'', Creator/WaltDisney's [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon third animated film]], was based mostly around the assumption that viewers liked and appreciated classical music and abstract imagery just as much as he did. Although the film has been VindicatedByHistory, at the time of its release it was a massive box office flop; even his brother/business partner Roy was skeptical of the film, claiming that there should have at least been some sequences in the film based on more popular forms of music. The studios next music anthology ''Disney/MakeMineMusic'' would feature a mostly pop-based soundtrack, while the sequences that were based on other forms of music like classical and opera (such as "Peter and the Wolf" and "The Whale Who Wanted to Sing at the Met") had narrators and full story lines.
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* ''Disney/{{Fantasia}}'', Creator/WaltDisney's [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon third animated film]], was based mostly around the assumption that viewers liked and appreciated classical music and abstract imagery just as much as he did. Although the film has been VindicatedByHistory, at the time of its release it was a massive box office flop; even his brother/business partner Roy was skeptical of the film, claiming that there should have at least been some sequences in the film based on more popular forms of music. The studios studio's next music anthology ''Disney/MakeMineMusic'' would feature a mostly pop-based soundtrack, while the sequences that were based on other forms of music like classical and opera (such as "Peter and the Wolf" and "The Whale Who Wanted to Sing at the Met") had narrators and full story lines.

* ''Film/{{Inception}}''. There's a lot to keep track of in this film, including dream rules and levels, and after the initial period of exposition and heist planning, Nolan expects you to figure it out for yourself. ** His next non-Batman movie ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' manages to go even well beyond that. Having some basic knowledge about general relativity, space-time, and exoplanet research goes a very long way in figuring out what's actually going on. And it might require some deeper understanding of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}} existentialist philosophy]] that underlies all of Nolan's movies to be able to figure out what anything of it might be supposed to mean.
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* ''Film/{{Inception}}''. There's a lot to keep track of in this film, including dream rules and levels, and after the initial period of exposition and heist planning, Nolan expects you to figure it out for yourself. \n** His next non-Batman movie ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' manages to go even well beyond that. Having some basic knowledge about general relativity, space-time, and exoplanet research goes a very long way in figuring out what's actually going on. And it might require some deeper understanding of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}} existentialist philosophy]] that underlies all of Nolan's movies to be able to figure out what anything of it might be supposed to mean.

** Creator/AgathaChristie sometimes does this in her Hercule Poirot novels, or else puts {{Bilingual Bonus}}es in places where they ''look'' like they might be important. In "Murder on the Orient Express", the reported last words of the victim are in French. The characters talk about how important this phrase is but no one ever translates it to English for us poor saps in the 21st century that don't speak conversational French. [[spoiler:In the end, it turns out that the actual words weren't important, and the killer[s] is/was was intentionally trying to have the other people on the train realize that the victim didn't speak French at all in a convoluted scheme for blame to fall elsewhere.]] ** Not limited to English; Tolstoy and his contemporaries pulled this kind of thing all the time. Translations of AnnaKarenina, especially, are famous for retaining the French lines without bothering to so much as footnote them, making it doubly confusing by readers already confused by awkward translations of Russian idiom. However, in Russia and Europe of the 19th Century French was a common second language among the aristocracy and educated Middle Class so these references would have been understood and not necessarily fly over people's heads ''then'' as they might today.
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** Creator/AgathaChristie sometimes does this in her Hercule Poirot Literature/HerculePoirot novels, or else puts {{Bilingual Bonus}}es in places where they ''look'' like they might be important. In "Murder on the Orient Express", the reported last words of the victim are in French. The characters talk about how important this phrase is but no one ever translates it to English for us poor saps in the 21st century that don't speak conversational French. [[spoiler:In the end, it turns out that the actual words weren't important, and the killer[s] is/was was intentionally trying to have the other people on the train realize that the victim didn't speak French at all in a convoluted scheme for blame to fall elsewhere.]] ** Not limited to English; Tolstoy and his contemporaries pulled this kind of thing all the time. Translations of AnnaKarenina, ''Literature/AnnaKarenina'', especially, are famous for retaining the French lines without bothering to so much as footnote them, making it doubly confusing by readers already confused by awkward translations of Russian idiom. However, in Russia and Europe of the 19th Century French was a common second language among the aristocracy and educated Middle Class so these references would have been understood and not necessarily fly over people's heads ''then'' as they might today.

* Creator/MontagueRhodesJames's classic horror story "Oh, Whistle, And I'll Come to You, My Lad" {{lampshade|Hanging}}s this trope: everything goes pear-shaped because the protagonist doesn't realize that the apparently unintelligible inscription on the whistle [[spoiler: is in Latin, just like the intelligible inscription on the other side. To be fair, there's no agreement about how to translate it, but the general gist is that anyone blowing the whistle will be in for a nasty shock.]]
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* Creator/MontagueRhodesJames's classic horror story "Oh, Whistle, And I'll Come to You, My Lad" {{lampshade|Hanging}}s this trope: everything goes pear-shaped because the protagonist doesn't realize that the apparently unintelligible inscription on the whistle [[spoiler: is in Latin, just like the intelligible inscription on the other side. To be fair, there's no agreement about how to translate it, but the general gist is that anyone blowing the whistle will be in for a nasty shock.]]shock]].

** One can only really understand ''Ilium'' and ''Olympos'' after studying ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest''; and be familiar with TheTimeMachine, the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings; and should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Then it might make sense. No guarantees. It helps that there are characters who love talking about Proust and ''Literature/TheIliad'' while much of the rest can be taken as [[TechnoBabble "awesome magic stuff"]]. ** ''Hyperion'' does the same thing but this time with Creator/JohnKeats, Jack Vance, time travel, quantum mechanics (again), transhumanism (again), internet sociology, [[spoiler: The Wizard of Oz and the Canterbury Tales]].
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** One can only really understand ''Ilium'' and ''Olympos'' after studying ''Literature/TheIliad'', ''Literature/TheOdyssey'', and Shakespeare's ''Theatre/TheTempest''; and be familiar with TheTimeMachine, ''Literature/TheTimeMachine'', the complete works of Marcel Proust, Shakespeare's sonnets, and Hans Moravec's writings; and should know a decent amount about quantum physics, the Voynich manuscript, terraforming, transhumanism, and biosphere theory. Then it might make sense. No guarantees. It helps that there are characters who love talking about Proust and ''Literature/TheIliad'' while much of the rest can be taken as [[TechnoBabble "awesome magic stuff"]]. ** ''Hyperion'' does the same thing but this time with Creator/JohnKeats, Jack Vance, time travel, quantum mechanics (again), transhumanism (again), internet Internet sociology, [[spoiler: The Wizard of Oz and the Canterbury Tales]].

* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' jokes about ''everything'', from obscure songs most people have forgotten to classical history and famous works of art. Of course the fun of the show is that [[MSTing the riffs]] are so frequent, you can miss one or two and still get the jokes. Their reference pool is so varied that they ''won a freakin' Peabody!'' However, they would also sometimes indulge in in-jokes that ''only'' the writers could possibly get.
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* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' jokes about ''everything'', from obscure songs most people have forgotten to classical history and famous works of art. Of course the fun of the show is that [[MSTing [[{{MST}} the riffs]] are so frequent, you can miss one or two and still get the jokes. Their reference pool is so varied that they ''won a freakin' Peabody!'' However, they would also sometimes indulge in in-jokes that ''only'' the writers could possibly get.

* Occasionally showed up in the EndOfEpisodeSilliness on ''Series/WelcomeBackKotter'', such as the story of one of Kotter's innumerable uncles, a tailor who had a friend he hadn't seen in years named, improbably, Euripides Feldman. One day, the story went, a man who looked like his long lost friend walked into the uncle's shop carrying a torn pair of pants. UncleHerbie studied him a moment, then asked, "Euripides?" The other man replied, "Yes. Eumenides?"
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* Occasionally showed up in the EndOfEpisodeSilliness on ''Series/WelcomeBackKotter'', such as the story of one of Kotter's innumerable uncles, a tailor who had a friend he hadn't seen in years named, improbably, Euripides Feldman. One day, the story went, a man who looked like his long lost friend walked into the uncle's shop carrying a torn pair of pants. UncleHerbie Uncle Herbie studied him a moment, then asked, "Euripides?" The other man replied, "Yes. Eumenides?"

* In order to even ''begin'' to understand what the death metal band Music/{{Atheist}} plays, one would need a working knowledge of thrash metal, jazz, progressive rock, funk, and latin music. Try listening to "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqWrkVEQvI Mother Man]]" from ''Unquestionable Presence'' if you don't believe me.
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* In order to even ''begin'' to understand what the death metal band Music/{{Atheist}} plays, one would need a working knowledge of thrash metal, jazz, progressive rock, funk, and latin Latin music. Try listening to "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqWrkVEQvI Mother Man]]" from ''Unquestionable Presence'' if you don't believe me.

* Pretty much every Bad Religion album requires the use of a dictionary to understand the lyrics. ** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by the NOFX song "I'm a Huge Fan of Bad Religion" with the lyric "I bought ''Suffer'' then I bought a thesaurus"
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* Pretty much every Bad Religion album requires the use of a dictionary to understand the lyrics. ** lyrics. {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by the NOFX song "I'm a Huge Fan of Bad Religion" with the lyric "I bought ''Suffer'' then I bought a thesaurus"

* Music/TheDecemberists tend to do this as do Music/{{REM}}
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* Music/TheDecemberists tend to do this as do Music/{{REM}}Music/{{REM}}.

* ''Webcomic/AmongTheChosen'' states this as part of its author's writing style. The basic introduction to the story may be read [[http://amongthechosen.com/about/ here]]. ** ''Among The Chosen gets'' confusing in a hurry. The mil-speak, the TechnoBabble, mythological references, and the tendency to mention important information exactly once all contributes to this.
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* ''Webcomic/AmongTheChosen'' states this as part of its author's writing style. The basic introduction to the story may be read [[http://amongthechosen.com/about/ here]]. ** here]]. ''Among The Chosen gets'' confusing in a hurry. The mil-speak, the TechnoBabble, mythological references, and the tendency to mention important information exactly once all contributes to this.

* ''Webcomic/HarkAVagrant'' deals with fairly obscure western history on a pretty regular basis...much of it (shudder) ''[[CanadaEh Canadian]]'' history. ** Which even [[ButNotTooForeign we Canadians]] aren't too familiar with.
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* ''Webcomic/HarkAVagrant'' deals with fairly obscure western history on a pretty regular basis...much of it (shudder) ''[[CanadaEh Canadian]]'' history. ** history. Which even [[ButNotTooForeign we Canadians]] aren't too familiar with.

** Those are pretty much all in the Phase stories, which can have all kinds of genius bonuses, down to the snarky humor and the longterm planning. It turns out that information about epics and Greek mythology in the fourth Ayla novel is important [[spoiler: in saving the day in the seventh one.]]
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** Those are pretty much all in the Phase stories, which can have all kinds of genius bonuses, down to the snarky humor and the longterm planning. It turns out that information about epics and Greek mythology in the fourth Ayla novel is important [[spoiler: in saving the day in the seventh one.]]one]].

* One of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'''s [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-reasons-no-one-laughed-at-your-joke/ reasons no one laughed at your joke]] is "They Didn't Have Enough Information to Get It". It states that the best practice for an InJoke that relies on knowledge of something obscure like ''Franchise/{{Rocky}} IV'' or ''Series/BattlestarGalactica1978'' is to find a discreet way to [[DontExplainTheJoke explain the reference]] in the setup.
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* One of ''Website/{{Cracked}}'''s [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-reasons-no-one-laughed-at-your-joke/ reasons no one laughed at your joke]] is "They Didn't Have Enough Information to Get It". It states that the best practice for an InJoke that relies on knowledge of something obscure like ''Franchise/{{Rocky}} IV'' ''Film/RockyIV'' or ''Series/BattlestarGalactica1978'' is to find a discreet way to [[DontExplainTheJoke explain the reference]] in the setup.

* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad!'' frequently relies on political history, much of which you would have to have studied the subject to know about. Roger (and to a lesser extent Greg and Terry) will also drop some references that you have to be GenreSavvy of gay culture and icons to understand.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad!'' ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' frequently relies on political history, much of which you would have to have studied the subject to know about. Roger (and to a lesser extent Greg and Terry) will also drop some references that you have to be GenreSavvy of gay culture and icons to understand.


** He once hosted an episode of ''Wrestling/WWERaw'', where he had a brief monologue at the start of the show and several backstage segments. While most of the segments were passable, his monologue and one segment that turned into a ''Dennis Miller Live'' "[[CatchPHrase I don't wanna get off on a rant here]]" rant (complete with dimmed lights) contained a series of references and witticisms so dense even by HIS standards, many were left believing he was [[AdamWesting making fun of himself]].
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** He once hosted an episode of ''Wrestling/WWERaw'', where he had a brief monologue at the start of the show and several backstage segments. While most of the segments were passable, his monologue and one segment that turned into a ''Dennis Miller Live'' "[[CatchPHrase "[[CatchPhrase I don't wanna get off on a rant here]]" rant (complete with dimmed lights) contained a series of references and witticisms so dense even by HIS standards, many were left believing he was [[AdamWesting making fun of himself]].
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* ''WebOriginal/ScaryNewsOutOfTokyo3'' is '''''loaded''''' not only with innumerable {{Shout Out}}s, but with erudite quotes, obscure literary references, and scientific & pseudoscientific jargon.

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* ''WebOriginal/ScaryNewsOutOfTokyo3'' ''Roleplay/ScaryNewsOutOfTokyo3'' is '''''loaded''''' not only with innumerable pop-culture {{Shout Out}}s, but with erudite quotes, obscure literary references, and scientific & pseudoscientific jargon.
1st Dec '15 6:55:56 PM Yora
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** His next non-Batman movie ''Film/{{Interstellar}}'' manages to go even well beyond that. Having some basic knowledge about general relativity, space-time, and exoplanet research goes a very long way in figuring out what's actually going on. And it might require some deeper understanding of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Existentialism}} existentialist philosophy]] that underlies all of Nolan's movies to be able to figure out what anything of it might be supposed to mean.
30th Nov '15 9:48:01 PM dissembly14b
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people outside Greece. Like Turkish people.]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin And Cypriots.]] [[YourMileageMayVary Or even people with just a basic understanding of international politics.]][[/note]]
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people outside Greece. Like Turkish people.]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin And Cypriots.]] [[YourMileageMayVary Or even people with just a basic understanding of international politics.]][[/note]]
30th Nov '15 9:47:15 PM dissembly14b
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people outside Greece. Like Turkish people.]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin And Cypriots.]][[/note]]
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people outside Greece. Like Turkish people.]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin And Cypriots.]] [[YourMileageMayVary Or even people with just a basic understanding of international politics.]][[/note]]
30th Nov '15 9:43:41 PM dissembly14b
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people. Particularly Greeks. And Cypriots. I guess.]][[/note]]
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* ''Series/ThirtyRock'' plays with this a lot. A textbook example is when Cerie mentions how she's upset her fiancÚ wants a Greek Orthodox wedding because she disagrees with the church's stance on Cyprus. Only viewers who are of Greek heritage or who follow international politics closely will have a clue what she's referring to.[[note]][[WeAllLiveInAmerica Or, you know, European people. Particularly Greeks. people outside Greece. Like Turkish people.]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin And Cypriots. I guess.Cypriots.]][[/note]]
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