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18th Jul '17 5:29:18 AM IamTheCaligula
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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'''s plot is already pretty difficult to follow due to a GroundhogDayLoop, AlternateTimelines and one heck of a TimeyWimeyBall, but that's just the beginning of your brain's struggle to keep up with the creators: Both characters and the lore include allusions to {{Christian|Mythology}}, {{Classical|Mythology}}, {{Norse|Mythology}} and JapaneseMythology, history and legends. Taxonomies, character names, {{Significant Birth Date}}s and character crests all include some level of GeniusBonus and not even the command lists go safe what with the ThemeNaming of the special moves (e.g., MadScientist-[[WasOnceAMan turned]]-EldritchAbomination Arakune's command list consists entirely of references to advanced mathematics). Finally, there's also the importance of things like "Observers" and [[QuantumMechanicsCanDoAnything "Phenomena Intervention"]], which are allusions to QuantumPhysics, most importantly the SchrodingersCat Paradox and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation Many-Worlds Interpretation.]]
13th Jul '17 10:02:36 AM matruz
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* During ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'', Sasuke's daughter, Sarada, undergoes a [[DaddyDNATest [=DNA=] Test]] to find, once and for all, if her real mother is Sasuke's former teammate, Karin. The test result comes out showing a perfect 100% match seemingly confirming it; [[spoiler:However those who know genetics will point out that a parent and child only share 50% of their [=DNA=], one only has a 100% genetic match with oneself (or an identical twin), which fits with the reveal later that the umbilical cord used for the test belonged to Sarada and not Karin]].
6th Jul '17 6:05:26 AM jormis29
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** Some can be thoroughly enjoyed without being well-versed in [=McCarthy=]'s interests or history -- such as ''All the Pretty Horses'', ''Literature/NoCountryForOldMen'', and ''Literature/TheRoad'' -- but it definitely helps to make sense of it all (especially with ''Literature/BloodMeridian'' and ''Suttree'').
** His ''Border Trilogy'' (of which ''All the Pretty Horses'' is the first) has characters have whole conversations entirely in Spanish. There's a website where you can download a list of all of the translated dialogue, which you may need by your side during the reading.

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** Some can be thoroughly enjoyed without being well-versed in [=McCarthy=]'s interests or history -- such as ''All the Pretty Horses'', PrettyHorses'', ''Literature/NoCountryForOldMen'', and ''Literature/TheRoad'' -- but it definitely helps to make sense of it all (especially with ''Literature/BloodMeridian'' and ''Suttree'').
** His ''Border Trilogy'' (of which ''All the Pretty ''Literature/AllThePretty Horses'' is the first) has characters have whole conversations entirely in Spanish. There's a website where you can download a list of all of the translated dialogue, which you may need by your side during the reading.
5th Jul '17 8:13:18 AM Couran
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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', at its best, combines this trope with [[GeekReferencePool jokes that the average viewer might understand]]. In one Halloween episode Leonard uses several scientific references to insult Penny's ex, which can be funny if you understand them, though {{justified|Trope}} in that he didn't want [[TheDitz the guy]] to realize he was being made fun of. Of course, this can fall flat when the writers try too hard to find a way of putting a line to qualify as a statement as a GeniusBonus, when it really just comes across [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness as pretentious to anyone who has even a cursory knowledge of the notion.]]. On the latter seasons, they have fallen into reciting geek references and slamming the laugh track hoping you feel smart just because you "get it".

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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', at its best, combines this trope with [[GeekReferencePool jokes that the average viewer might understand]]. In one Halloween episode Leonard uses several scientific references to insult Penny's ex, which can be funny if you understand them, though {{justified|Trope}} in that he didn't want [[TheDitz the guy]] to realize he was being made fun of. Of course, this can fall flat when the writers try too hard to find a way of putting a line to qualify as a statement as a GeniusBonus, when it really just comes across [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness as pretentious to anyone who has even a cursory knowledge of the notion.]]. On the latter seasons, they have fallen into reciting geek references and slamming the laugh track hoping you feel smart just because you "get it".
4th Jul '17 1:57:30 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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** It should be noted: unlike with many other works on this page, Joyce was actually courteous enough to provide a ''guide'' to reading ''Ulysses'', as he recognized that the novel might otherwise be a bit hard to follow. When he sent to the book to his friends Stuart Gilbert and Carlo Linati, he gave both of them rough outlines of its fundamental structure, pointing out some basic details of plot progression (like when and where each episode takes place, and which episodes are meant to parallel which chapters in the ''Literature/{{Odyssey}}''), as well as listing some of the core symbols and themes in each episode, and laying out the central images and ideas of each episode (like which body parts, colors, and academic disciplines are supposed to figure into each episode). These outlines, now known as "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_schema_for_Ulysses The Gilbert Schema]]" and "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linati_schema_for_Ulysses The Linati Schema]]", are very helpful in making the novel a bit more accessible.
19th Jun '17 4:24:56 PM Eddy1215
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* The DarkerAndEdgier (but still childish) sequel of the ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' makes accurate statements about biological structures and Darwin's natural selection theory when talking about the alien's artificial evolution and their DNA database system. Psychological issues, such as StockholmSyndrome and personality disorders,are also current, though in a much lighter way due to the TV ratings. The series also references characters and lines from Greek and Hebrew myths, H.P. Lovercraft's books, and Richard Lovelace's poems, alongside other pop culture elements, the most (in)famous being the character Will Harangue, a journalist whose show is a FrankensteinsMonster of various Fox News programs and a spoof of "Steven Colbert's Colbert Nation".

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* The DarkerAndEdgier (but still childish) sequel of the ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' makes accurate statements about biological structures and Darwin's natural selection theory when talking about the alien's artificial evolution and their DNA database system. Psychological issues, such as StockholmSyndrome and personality disorders,are disorders, are also current, though in a much lighter way due to the TV ratings. The series also references characters and lines from Greek and Hebrew myths, H.P. Lovercraft's books, and Richard Lovelace's poems, alongside other pop culture elements, the most (in)famous being the character Will Harangue, a journalist whose show is a FrankensteinsMonster of various Fox News programs and a spoof of "Steven Colbert's Colbert Nation".




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15th Jun '17 3:31:57 PM jormis29
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* Much of Peter Greenaway's work fits this trope. For example, he commented in the DVD bonus features for ''The Draughtsman's Contract'' that he did not want to explain the plot and its ending within the film, feeling that the audience would understand what had happened. Many people disagree.

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* Much of Peter Greenaway's work fits this trope. For example, he commented in the DVD bonus features for ''The Draughtsman's Contract'' ''Film/TheDraughtsmansContract'' that he did not want to explain the plot and its ending within the film, feeling that the audience would understand what had happened. Many people disagree.
4th Jun '17 6:03:44 AM ladyofthelibrary
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* RickyRicottasMightyRobot got a title change because of this trope. The robot was originally called "giant" since he was compared to the rest of the characters in the setting but young readers informed author Dav Pilkey that since the setting is a MouseWorld, the robot isn't actually a giant and requested the name be changed to the current. Pilkey has gone on record as being ''very'' impressed with this.
24th May '17 6:45:12 PM BiffJr
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* ''Byte'' Magazine used to run an ad every April advertising some form of "write-only memory", such as "[[LogicBomb erasable write-only memory]]" or "high-speed write-only memory". Every May they'd print some of the orders they had received.
* Twelve years before the famous War of the Worlds broadcast a genial priest created a similar, although less extreme, panic with his [[http://www.planetslade.com/ronald-knox1.html Broadcasting the Barricades]]. People missed the fact that the rioters' ringleader was one Mr Popplebury, the Secretary of the National Movement for Abolishing Theatre Queues. As Evelyn Waugh (a great friend of Knox) wrote in his autobiography: “It was prefaced by an explicit statement that it was a work of humour and imagination, enlivened by realistic ‘sound effects’, which were still a novelty. Read today, it seems barely credible that it could have caused a tremor of alarm in the most timid listener. [Ronald] had no idea of imposing on anyone. The intention was broad parody.”
* Any especially clever, layered, or subtle satire has a tendency to go right over people's heads. Things like ''Website/TheOnion'' or the aforementioned ''Series/BrassEye'' have had their material mistaken for real news on several occasions (the latter even counted on people not getting it and frequently made them an unwitting part of the joke). In fact, sometimes even when viewers ''are'' geniuses, they still can't pick out the satire due to PoesLaw.
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* ''Byte'' Magazine used to run an ad every April advertising some form of "write-only memory", such as "[[LogicBomb erasable write-only memory]]" or "high-speed write-only memory". Every May they'd print some of the orders they had received.
* Twelve years before the famous War of the Worlds broadcast a genial priest created a similar, although less extreme, panic with his [[http://www.planetslade.com/ronald-knox1.html Broadcasting the Barricades]]. People missed the fact that the rioters' ringleader was one Mr Popplebury, the Secretary of the National Movement for Abolishing Theatre Queues. As Evelyn Waugh (a great friend of Knox) wrote in his autobiography: “It was prefaced by an explicit statement that it was a work of humour and imagination, enlivened by realistic ‘sound effects’, which were still a novelty. Read today, it seems barely credible that it could have caused a tremor of alarm in the most timid listener. [Ronald] had no idea of imposing on anyone. The intention was broad parody.”
* Any especially clever, layered, or subtle satire has a tendency to go right over people's heads. Things like ''Website/TheOnion'' or the aforementioned ''Series/BrassEye'' have had their material mistaken for real news on several occasions (the latter even counted on people not getting it and frequently made them an unwitting part of the joke). In fact, sometimes even when viewers ''are'' geniuses, they still can't pick out the satire due to PoesLaw.
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8th May '17 2:06:18 PM crashkey
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So you sit back and watch the ratings -- which plummet faster than a rocket-propelled brick in a nosedive. What went wrong? In trying to avert making the classic mistake that ViewersAreMorons, you went too far and ended up assuming that they're ''geniuses'' instead. Of course, if you're working in a medium that doesn't need an audience of millions to be profitable, you may not care. While a lot less common than its more insulting opposite (any show without the "mass-market appeal" that the less high-brow stuff has will be ScrewedByTheNetwork without mercy), overestimating the audience can be more of a death knell than underestimating it, even without network sabotage. Remember that loading up your work with loads of obscure references solely for the sake of having them there is just pretentious. Just because your characters know who Derrida is does not make them interesting or your show any better than one that doesn't namedrop. Don't think your show/book/game is smart just because you're quoting smart people.

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So you sit back and watch the ratings -- which plummet faster than a rocket-propelled brick in a nosedive. What went wrong? In trying to avert making the classic mistake that ViewersAreMorons, you went too far and ended up assuming that they're ''geniuses'' instead. Of course, if you're working in a medium that doesn't need an audience of millions to be profitable, you may not care. While a lot less common than its more insulting opposite (any show without the "mass-market appeal" that the less high-brow stuff has will be ScrewedByTheNetwork without mercy), overestimating the audience can be more of a death knell than underestimating it, even without network sabotage. Remember that loading up your work with loads of obscure references solely for the sake of having them there is just pretentious. Just because your characters know who Derrida is does not make them interesting or your show any better than one that doesn't namedrop. Don't think your show/book/game is smart just because you're quoting smart people.
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