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17th Sep '17 11:26:36 AM nombretomado
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** Current Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu is the only Prime Minister in the country's history who has won three straight elections and will surpass country founder David Ben-Gurion as Israel's longest serving Prime Minister if he completes his current term. Many other world leaders see him as little more than an agitator who is driving the Middle Eastern peace process backwards (he had a particularly acrimonious relationship with American President UsefulNotes/BarackObama, then leader of Israel's greatest ally). His belief that Israeli leaders should advocate for all Jews in the world (as articulated in his 2015 speech to the U.S. Congress) naturally miffed many more liberal Jews in the Diaspora. Within Israel's borders he is a polarizing figure who is largely seen as a giant {{Jerkass}} who has isolated Israel on the world stage and who has been continuously running the economy into the ground. He remains in power largely because in the wake of the increased threat of Islamic terrorism Israel faces due to Hamas taking over the Gaza Strip, Iran looking to develop nuclear weapons and the later rise of ISIS, he is the only person who can competently manage Israel's military and intelligence and protect the country from the violent anarchy that is plaguing the rest of the region. Him overseeing [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower extremely effective national security initiatives]] such as [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon Iron Dome]] hasn't hurt either.

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** Current Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu is the only Prime Minister in the country's history who has won three straight elections and will surpass country founder David Ben-Gurion as Israel's longest serving Prime Minister if he completes his current term. Many other world leaders see him as little more than an agitator who is driving the Middle Eastern peace process backwards (he had a particularly acrimonious relationship with American President UsefulNotes/BarackObama, then leader of Israel's greatest ally). His belief that Israeli leaders should advocate for all Jews in the world (as articulated in his 2015 speech to the U.S. Congress) naturally miffed many more liberal Jews in the Diaspora. Within Israel's borders he is a polarizing figure who is largely seen as a giant {{Jerkass}} who has isolated Israel on the world stage and who has been continuously running the economy into the ground. He remains in power largely because in the wake of the increased threat of Islamic terrorism Israel faces due to Hamas taking over the Gaza Strip, Iran looking to develop nuclear weapons and the later rise of ISIS, he is the only person who can competently manage Israel's military and intelligence and protect the country from the violent anarchy that is plaguing the rest of the region. Him overseeing [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower [[UsefulNotes/PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower extremely effective national security initiatives]] such as [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon Iron Dome]] hasn't hurt either.
15th Sep '17 2:33:06 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* UsefulNotes/ChiangKaiShek, despite being an authoritarian dictator, managed to keep the entire GMD united under his rule. This is made more impressive by the fact the GMD party was actually more of a non-aligned political coalition with various wings, ranging from liberal to conservative to traditionalist. In one case, Chiang 'retired' on 10th December 1931 during a particularly stressful period. Within hours, military officers refused to obey the new government, public protests demanded Chiang to come back, the entire government panicked and tax offices refused to submit forms without Chiang's return.

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* UsefulNotes/ChiangKaiShek, despite being an authoritarian dictator, managed to keep the entire GMD Kuomintang, or Chinese Nationalist Party, united under his rule. This is made more impressive by the fact the GMD party KMT was actually more of a non-aligned non-aligned/centrist political coalition with various wings, ranging from liberal to conservative to traditionalist. In one case, Chiang 'retired' on 10th December 1931 during a particularly stressful period. Within hours, military officers refused to obey the new government, public protests demanded Chiang to come back, the entire government panicked and tax offices refused to submit forms without Chiang's return.
1st Sep '17 8:31:51 PM kquinn0830
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** Subverted again in "Charlie Work". The episode shows all the things Charlie does to trick the health inspector into think Paddy's Pub is up to code and give them a high grade. However, because the bar always passes, the gang doesn't think much of Charlie's hard work and are more concerned about their latest scam, which Charlie had to cover up to ensure a passing grade.
3rd Aug '17 11:35:57 AM xcountryguy
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* This appears to be the case with [[MagnificentBastard "Gentleman"]] [[TheDon John]] [[AntiVillain Marcone]] of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. He rose to power, taking control of [[TheMafia the Chicago Outfit]]. He's a crime lord, but under his rule, gang violence in Chicago quieted and he's made sure as few civilians were hurt by the criminal underworld as possible. He even personally executes anyone who hurts children in Chicago. It's stated in universe that while no-one is happy that Marcone is so powerful, he's infinitely better than any alternative, so he's mostly left alone by the authorities. In the short story "Aftermath", which takes place shortly after [[spoiler: Harry is shot dead at the end of ''Changes'']], Murphy unhappily concedes that Marcone is in an even stronger position because [[spoiler: as a signatory of the Unseelie Accords and thus a minor power in the Chicago magical community, Marcone has basically become the city's first line of defence against supernatural threats]].
** Harry himself falls under this: he slowly but surely goes from respected practitioner - and technically, the most powerful in the city - and black sheep of the White Council to the Warden Commander for the entire Western United States, the unofficial representative of the younger generation of wizardry - the actual poster boy for that generation looks up to him - and supernatural defender of Chicago with a reputation as TheDreaded so strong that when [[spoiler: he 'dies']] Chicago becomes a supernatural war zone. Interestingly, he got this completely by accident.

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* This appears to be the case with [[MagnificentBastard "Gentleman"]] [[TheDon John]] [[AntiVillain Marcone]] of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. He rose to power, taking control of [[TheMafia the Chicago Outfit]]. He's a crime lord, but under his rule, gang violence in Chicago quieted and he's made sure as few civilians were hurt by the criminal underworld as possible. He even personally executes anyone who hurts children in Chicago. It's stated in universe that while no-one is happy that Marcone is so powerful, he's infinitely better than any alternative, so he's mostly left alone by the authorities. In the short story "Aftermath", which takes place shortly after [[spoiler: Harry [[spoiler:Harry is shot dead at the end of ''Changes'']], Murphy unhappily concedes that Marcone is in an even stronger position because [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as a signatory of the Unseelie Accords and thus a minor power in the Chicago magical community, Marcone has basically become the city's first line of defence against supernatural threats]].
** Harry himself falls under this: he slowly but surely goes from respected practitioner - and technically, the most powerful in the city - and black sheep of the White Council to the Warden Commander for the entire Western United States, the unofficial representative of the younger generation of wizardry - the actual poster boy for that generation looks up to him - and supernatural defender of Chicago with a reputation as TheDreaded so strong that when [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he 'dies']] Chicago becomes a supernatural war zone. Interestingly, he got this completely by accident.



--> '''Belkar''': Do you have any idea how bloody useless we were while you were [[spoiler: taking your dirt nap]]? The redhead can't lead anyone out of a wet paper bag, and I almost vomited myself to death because you weren't around to keep me from doing something stupid. And the other half was just as bad, from what I hear. Elan couldn't get past some subplot, Durkon sat on his thumbs, and I think the elf almost went nuts.

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--> '''Belkar''': Do you have any idea how bloody useless we were while you were [[spoiler: taking [[spoiler:taking your dirt nap]]? The redhead can't lead anyone out of a wet paper bag, and I almost vomited myself to death because you weren't around to keep me from doing something stupid. And the other half was just as bad, from what I hear. Elan couldn't get past some subplot, Durkon sat on his thumbs, and I think the elf almost went nuts.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'': Charles Foster Ofdensen was the lawyer and manager of Dethklok for years before [[spoiler: being killed at the end of Season 2]]. Once they're left to manage themselves, the band goes from being their own majorly successful economy, and the five richest people in the world, to practically bankrupt in the span of a few months. [[spoiler:Good thing Ofdensen turned out to still be alive. One wonders, though, what will happen now that Ofdensen left to become the new head of the Church of the Black Klok.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'': Charles Foster Ofdensen was the lawyer and manager of Dethklok for years before [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being killed at the end of Season 2]]. Once they're left to manage themselves, the band goes from being their own majorly successful economy, and the five richest people in the world, to practically bankrupt in the span of a few months. [[spoiler:Good thing Ofdensen turned out to still be alive. One wonders, though, what will happen now that Ofdensen left to become the new head of the Church of the Black Klok.]]
23rd Jul '17 3:38:46 PM nombretomado
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* UsefulNotes/JosipBrozTito was a leading member of the Partisan movement that liberated Yugoslavia during WW2, he was Prime Minister from 1943 to 1953, and President from 1953 to his death in 1980. Soon after he died ethnic tension started building and the leaders of the individual republics took the Presidency in turns, but some people just wouldn't play nice. Result: no more Yugoslavia.

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* UsefulNotes/JosipBrozTito was a leading member of the Partisan movement that liberated Yugoslavia during WW2, [=WW2=], he was Prime Minister from 1943 to 1953, and President from 1953 to his death in 1980. Soon after he died ethnic tension started building and the leaders of the individual republics took the Presidency in turns, but some people just wouldn't play nice. Result: no more Yugoslavia.
22nd Jul '17 5:41:56 AM TheWildWestPyro
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* UsefulNotes/ChiangKaiShek, despite being an authoritarian dictator, managed to keep the entire GMD united under his rule. This is made more impressive by the fact the GMD party was actually more of a non-aligned political coalition with various wings, ranging from liberal to conservative to traditionalist. In one case, Chiang 'retired' on 10th December 1931 during a particularly stressful period. Within hours, military officers refused to obey the new government, public protests demanded Chiang to come back, the entire government panicked and tax offices refused to submit forms without Chiang's return.
17th Jul '17 8:54:15 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' setting, it was implied in ''The Factols' Manifesto'' that this is why Factol Karan is leader of the Xaositects, he's the only one who wants the job. Leading a group that embraces Chaos is a difficult headache, and while Karan isn't ''always'' the leader (he is when he feels like it, which is most of the time) nobody ever challenges him for the role when he is, because nobody else wants it.
29th Jun '17 1:11:24 PM luisedgarf
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* Venezuela is probably a very similar case, except taken to its very logical extreme: The political and economical situation has become so bad, that many Venezuelans are trying to leave the country, mainly to the U.S., Mexico, Brazil or Colombia. At the same time, all the countries of the region want to resolve the Venezuelan crisis with the less bloodshed as possible, partly because they depend of Venezuelan oil and partly, like the North Korean, Arab and Mexican cases, to avoid a refugee crisis in the American continent and probably more ''dire'' consequences there.
25th Jun '17 3:07:18 AM MarcusSLazarus
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** The TropeNamer is Ankh-Morpork's current Patrician Lord Vetinari, a benevolent tyrant who stays in power not because anyone actually likes him, but because they dislike him less than any of the other options ([[WeAREStrugglingTogether including each other]]). Several times he has been forced out of power (or quietly stepped aside when asked), then immediately resumed his usual role when the new regime collapses from its own inability to deal with the crisis that was their excuse to seize power in the first place. Many books set in Ankh-Morpork involve plots to overthrow him or remove him as a happy side effect of another goal (''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Discworld/MenAtArms'', ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'', ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'', ''Discworld/TheTruth'', ''Discworld/MakingMoney''). This is, of course, [[TheChessmaster just as planned]] -- while Machiavelli may say it is better to be feared than loved, Vetinari holds that being permanent is best of all, and has remade the political system around him to work best when he's leading it. The trope comes into effect when people like Sam Vimes, William de Worde, and Moist von Lipwig, who don't like Vetinari at all, still find themselves forced to help stop those plots because the alternative is worse (the time-travel novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' explains quite graphically just ''how'' bad things were before Vetinari came to power). The conspiracy in ''The Truth'' comes closest to succeeding, but is foiled by Vetinari's symbiotic relationship with the Watch and the nascent Morporkian free press. Reading through the books in order, it becomes clear that over time fewer and fewer people are actually willing to attempt removing Vetinari and those few are getting more and more unhinged. It is explicitly stated that although Vetinari's power is resented by citizens both low and high, they do rather like that he's turned the city into the economic and cultural hub of the entire Disc and aren't inclined to go through all the fuss and muss of changing Patricians. He has tamed the city like a dog... and most dogs do not like it when the master is no longer around.

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** The TropeNamer is Ankh-Morpork's current Patrician Lord Vetinari, a benevolent tyrant who stays in power not because anyone actually likes him, but because they dislike him less than any of the other options ([[WeAREStrugglingTogether including each other]]). Several times he has been forced out of power (or quietly stepped aside when asked), then immediately resumed his usual role when the new regime collapses from its own inability to deal with the crisis that was their excuse to seize power in the first place. Many books set in Ankh-Morpork involve plots to overthrow him or remove him as a happy side effect of another goal (''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Discworld/MenAtArms'', ''Discworld/FeetOfClay'', ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'', ''Discworld/TheTruth'', ''Discworld/MakingMoney''). This is, of course, [[TheChessmaster just as planned]] -- while Machiavelli may say it is better to be feared than loved, Vetinari holds that being permanent is best of all, and has remade the political system around him to work best when he's leading it. The trope comes into effect when people like Sam Vimes, William de Worde, and Moist von Lipwig, who don't like Vetinari at all, still find themselves forced to help stop those plots because the alternative is worse (the time-travel novel ''Discworld/NightWatch'' explains quite graphically just ''how'' bad things were before Vetinari came to power). The conspiracy in ''The Truth'' comes closest to succeeding, but is foiled by Vetinari's symbiotic relationship with the Watch and the nascent Morporkian free press. Reading through the books in order, it becomes clear that over time fewer and fewer people are actually willing to attempt removing Vetinari and those few are getting more and more unhinged.unhinged; by the time of ''Feet of Clay'', Vimes muses that at this point, the only people who would kill Vetinari are either those who don't care if the city collapses or someone who would be on top of the pile in the event of such a collapse, and the only two who fit the second are Vimes himself and Carrot, neither of whom would actually do that. It is explicitly stated that although Vetinari's power is resented by citizens both low and high, they do rather like that he's turned the city into the economic and cultural hub of the entire Disc and aren't inclined to go through all the fuss and muss of changing Patricians. He has tamed the city like a dog... and most dogs do not like it when the master is no longer around.
20th Jun '17 4:26:50 AM Piterpicher
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** British Prime Minister UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher was always a polarizing figure who never garnered strong approval ratings outside of hardline right-wingers. However, she remained in power for over 11 years and lead the Tories to three straight election victories largely because, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement depending on your political position]]: the Labour party [[IdiotBall refused to abandon the socialist platform]] which to some observers led to the stagnant economy and crippling labour strikes of TheSeventies; or else the schism that created the (now-defunct) Social Democratic Party resulted in there being ''two'' parties of the left - which hopelessly divided the opposition vote and gave Thatcher a clear run at power. Meanwhile the Liberal Democrats' election strategy could be best summarized as, "Maggie's poor handling of the economy will surely tank her in the polls soon, right? Any day now." The combined opposition parties' votes alaways far outstripped that for Thatcher - but it wasa split between three parties. Meaning the "first past the post" system worked in her favour. When she finally fell from power in late 1990, it was at the hands of her own Conservative Party, which came to believe she had finally become too arrogant and hard-headed in light of the Community Charge fiasco and her hysterical viewpoint towards German Reunification and booted her in favor of the more moderate JohnMajor.

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** British Prime Minister UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher was always a polarizing figure who never garnered strong approval ratings outside of hardline right-wingers. However, she remained in power for over 11 years and lead the Tories to three straight election victories largely because, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement depending on your political position]]: the Labour party [[IdiotBall refused to abandon the socialist platform]] which to some observers led to the stagnant economy and crippling labour strikes of TheSeventies; or else the schism that created the (now-defunct) Social Democratic Party resulted in there being ''two'' parties of the left - which hopelessly divided the opposition vote and gave Thatcher a clear run at power. Meanwhile the Liberal Democrats' election strategy could be best summarized as, "Maggie's poor handling of the economy will surely tank her in the polls soon, right? Any day now." The combined opposition parties' votes alaways far outstripped that for Thatcher - but it wasa split between three parties. Meaning the "first past the post" system worked in her favour. When she finally fell from power in late 1990, it was at the hands of her own Conservative Party, which came to believe she had finally become too arrogant and hard-headed in light of the Community Charge fiasco and her hysterical viewpoint towards German Reunification and booted her in favor of the more moderate JohnMajor.UsefulNotes/JohnMajor.
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