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2nd Nov '17 8:17:33 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' features the [[FallenStatesOfAmerica final end]] of the decaying future United States as this. While the preceding civil war is often extremely brutal, it ends with a whimper rather than a bang, as the Federal Government largely ceases to work after being forced to abandon Washington. [[DragonAscendant General Wesley]] and his [[TheRemnant hard-core cadre]] excepted, most of their remaining loyalists either desert, surrender or defect to the [[DeepSouth New Confederacy]], rather than making a last stand.


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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' features the [[FallenStatesOfAmerica final end]] of the decaying future United States as this. While the preceding civil war is often extremely brutal, it ends with a whimper rather than a bang, as the Federal Government largely ceases to work after being forced to abandon Washington. [[DragonAscendant General Wesley]] and his [[TheRemnant hard-core cadre]] excepted, most of their remaining loyalists either desert, surrender or defect to the [[DeepSouth New Confederacy]], rather than making a last stand.
2nd Nov '17 8:17:09 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' features the [[FallenStatesOfAmerica final end]] of the decaying future United States as this. While the preceding civil war is often extremely brutal, it ends with a whimper rather than a bang, as the Federal Government largely ceases to work after being forced to abandon Washington. [[DragonAscendant General Wesley]] and his [[TheRemnant hard-core cadre]] excepted, most of their remaining loyalists either desert, surrender or defect to the [[DeepSouth New Confederacy]], rather than making a last stand.
26th Sep '17 7:03:15 PM kome360
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* ''Manga/RideBack'': The GGP, the world's leading military superpower, decide to accede to terrorist demands and loosen their iron grip on the world, starting with Japan. This is mostly because they started out as an insurgent cell doomed to failure, won a one-in-a-million death-wish battle that surprised themselves, and just rolled with it until they conquered the entire world. They've been growing up for the past decade and started playing the part of TheEmpire once they realized nobody would want to tear them down if they stopped being so fascist.
31st Aug '17 8:04:43 AM AgentKyles
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* In the [[UsefulNotes/MiddleEastUprising2011 Arab Spring]], [[UsefulNotes/ModernEgypt Egypt's]] revolution played out like this, and UsefulNotes/{{Yemen}} seems to be going this way (or at least as close to this way as possible in a country where there were already not one but ''two'' unrelated insurgencies before anything started).

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* In the [[UsefulNotes/MiddleEastUprising2011 Arab Spring]], [[UsefulNotes/ModernEgypt Egypt's]] revolution played out like this, and this.
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UsefulNotes/{{Yemen}} seems seemed to be going this way (or -- or at least as close to this way as possible in a country where there were already not one but ''two'' unrelated insurgencies before anything started).started -- but in the end, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War_(2015%E2%80%93present) it]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen didn't]].
31st Aug '17 7:16:13 AM AgentKyles
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31st Aug '17 7:15:20 AM AgentKyles
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*** Subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Libya}}, where [[DefectorFromDecadence the leadership turned against itself]], and violence by Gaddafi's
[[Mooks]] encouraged the protest movement to arm itself, turning the revolution into all-out CivilWar;
*** Also subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Bahrain}}, the government went all Tiananmen on the protesters, bringing out the Army plus Saudi and Emirati troops to crush the uprising; and...

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*** Subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Libya}}, where [[DefectorFromDecadence the leadership turned against itself]], and violence by Gaddafi's
[[Mooks]]
Gaddafi's forces encouraged the protest movement to arm itself, turning the revolution into all-out CivilWar;
*** Also subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Bahrain}}, the government went all Tiananmen on the protesters, bringing out the Army plus Saudi and Emirati troops to crush the uprising; and...
CivilWar;


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*** In UsefulNotes/{{Bahrain}}, it was subverted the other way; the government went all Tiananmen on the protesters, bringing out the Army plus [[SummonBiggerFish Saudi and Emirati troops]] to crush the uprising; and...
3rd Aug '17 1:43:40 AM SalingerFanboy96
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*** Famously subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, the government found that the Tiananmen option wouldn't work (the opposition is too spread-out), so they cracked down more generally. This caused [[DefectorFromDecadence defections]] all the way up to the level of ''Prime Minister'' and caused an all-out CivilWar.

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*** Famously and tragically subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, the government found that the Tiananmen option wouldn't work (the opposition is too spread-out), so they cracked down more generally. This caused [[DefectorFromDecadence defections]] all the way up to the level of ''Prime Minister'' and caused an all-out CivilWar.
3rd Aug '17 1:41:12 AM SalingerFanboy96
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* It's peaceful now, but a standoff is taking place, and violence is expected. It never comes. The conflict just... ends. At worst a few were trampled in the confusion.
* A bloody war is already underway, but a relatively bloodless internal coup, unexpected surrender, etc. resolves the conflict suddenly without too many more deaths.
* Violence occurs, and while it left bodies in the streets an lengthy conflict is averted. A war that might have lasted several years, killed several percent of the population, and plunged the country into debt and bitterness for generations to come is resolved in a single campaign that kills only a (tiny) fraction of that number.

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* Scenario 1. It's peaceful now, but a standoff is taking place, and violence is expected. It never comes. The conflict just... ends. At worst a few were trampled in the confusion.
* Scenario 2. A bloody war is already underway, but a relatively bloodless internal coup, unexpected surrender, etc. resolves the conflict suddenly without too many more deaths.
* Scenario 3. Violence occurs, and while it left bodies in the streets an lengthy conflict is averted. A war that might have lasted several years, killed several percent of the population, and plunged the country into debt and bitterness for generations to come is resolved in a single campaign that kills only a (tiny) fraction of that number.



*** In UsefulNotes/{{Libya}}, [[DefectorFromDecadence the leadership turned against itself]], allowing the protest movement to turn into all-out CivilWar;
*** In UsefulNotes/{{Bahrain}}, the government went all Tiananmen on the protesters, bringing out the Army plus Saudi and Emirati troops to crush the uprising; and...
*** In UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, the government found that the Tiananmen option wouldn't work (the opposition is too spread-out), so they cracked down more generally. This caused [[DefectorFromDecadence defections]] all the way up to the level of ''Prime Minister'' and caused an all-out CivilWar.

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*** In Subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Libya}}, where [[DefectorFromDecadence the leadership turned against itself]], allowing and violence by Gaddafi's
[[Mooks]] encouraged
the protest movement to turn arm itself, turning the revolution into all-out CivilWar;
*** In Also subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Bahrain}}, the government went all Tiananmen on the protesters, bringing out the Army plus Saudi and Emirati troops to crush the uprising; and...
*** In Famously subverted in UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, the government found that the Tiananmen option wouldn't work (the opposition is too spread-out), so they cracked down more generally. This caused [[DefectorFromDecadence defections]] all the way up to the level of ''Prime Minister'' and caused an all-out CivilWar.



** In Romania, the leadership ordered the army and secret police to put down the revolution. The army commanders refused to fire on unarmed civilians. However, the Romanian Revolution did leave a lot of dead bodies, maybe not so many as might have been but still a goodly amount.

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** In Romania, the leadership ordered the army and secret police to put down the revolution. The army commanders refused to fire on unarmed civilians. However, the The Romanian Revolution did leave a lot of dead bodies, yet maybe not so many as might have been but still a goodly amount.been. About 1,000 people died in the violence.
26th Jul '17 8:14:11 PM rjd1922
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* In VideoGame/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice the final case Turnabout Revolution has [[spoiler: [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Garan]] sic her guards on everyone who had gathered their to protest her regime and it's corrupt criminal justice system. Apollo Justice and the defense team are literally held at gun point. Naturally as this game is still about lawyers the Queen is defeated not by violent means, but by Apollo exposing her inability to channel spirits. This makes her an illegitimate queen according to Kurainese law. Afterwords her niece, the fourteen year old, Rayfa takes over the throne, with her older brother Nahyuta acting as her regent until she's old enough to rule.]]

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* In VideoGame/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice ''VideoGame/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' the final case case, Turnabout Revolution Revolution, has [[spoiler: [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Garan]] sic her guards on everyone who had gathered their to protest her regime and it's its corrupt criminal justice system. Apollo Justice and the defense team are literally held at gun point. Naturally as this game is still about lawyers the Queen is defeated not by violent means, but by Apollo exposing her inability to channel spirits. This makes her an illegitimate queen according to Kurainese Kura'inese law. Afterwords her niece, the fourteen year old, fourteen-year old Rayfa takes over the throne, with her older brother Nahyuta acting as her regent until she's old enough to rule.]]
8th Jul '17 4:45:14 PM nombretomado
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Compare ReconcileTheBitterFoes, and (in TheOtherWiki) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution Quiet Revolution]]. Contrast TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized and TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. The ReignOfTerror is what happens when it goes wrong.

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Compare ReconcileTheBitterFoes, and (in TheOtherWiki) Wiki/TheOtherWiki) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution Quiet Revolution]]. Contrast TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized and TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified. The ReignOfTerror is what happens when it goes wrong.
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