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21st Aug '16 7:15:01 AM FictionIsntReal
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* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': At first glance a typical Hollywood soap action movie, the deeply scathing critique of the book it was based off of and militarism in general was so subtle that even famed critics like ''Creator/RogerEbert'' failed to take notice of its satire. Yet it later became popularized as a critique of the TheWarOnTerror, due to the many parallels between several parts of the movie--governments using acts of terror to justify war, sending countless people to their deaths, employing torture, etc. People who watch it today are even surprised that this film was actually produced half a decade before the Iraq war.

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* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': At first glance a typical Hollywood soap action movie, the but actually a deeply scathing critique of the book it was based off of and militarism in general was so subtle that even famed critics like ''Creator/RogerEbert'' failed to take notice of its satire.general. Yet it later became popularized as a critique of the TheWarOnTerror, due to the many parallels between several parts of the movie--governments using acts of terror to justify war, sending countless people to their deaths, employing torture, etc. People who watch it today are even surprised that this film was actually produced half a decade before the Iraq war.
16th Aug '16 2:32:11 PM kquinn0830
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** The episode "Good Cop, Bad Cop", in which Eddie is profiled by a bunch of racist cops, distressingly holds up water after the murder of Laquan McDonald revealed the racism and corruption in the Chicago Police Department.

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** The episode "Good Cop, Bad Cop", in which Eddie is profiled by a bunch of racist cops, cop, distressingly holds up water after the murder of Laquan McDonald [=McDonald=] revealed the racism and corruption in the Chicago Police Department.
10th Aug '16 2:05:37 PM DrY9K
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* ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Different_from_the_Others Different from the Others]]'', a German film from the Weimar Republic, is famous for its honest and sympathetic discussion of homosexuality.
-->"You must not condemn your son because he is a homosexual, he is not to blame for his orientation. It is not wrong, nor should it be a crime. Indeed, it is not even an illness, merely a variation, and one that is common to all of nature."
:: : Not bad for [[OlderThanTelevision a film from 1919]]!



* ''Literature/{{Maurice}}'' was written in 1913 but wasn't published until 1971 because it had the "weirdo" idea that homosexuals could actually have ''happy'' endings that didn't involve death or being "cured" of their "mental illness" (yes, [[ValuesDissonance once upon a time, homosexuality was considered a mental problem]]-in fact [[NewerThanTheyThink it was listed as such until 1973 in the US]]).

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* ''Literature/{{Maurice}}'' was written in 1913 but wasn't published until 1971 because it had the "weirdo" weirdo idea that homosexuals could actually have ''happy'' happy endings that didn't involve death or being "cured" cured of their "mental illness" mental illness (yes, [[ValuesDissonance once upon a time, homosexuality was considered a mental problem]]-in fact [[NewerThanTheyThink it was listed as such until 1973 in the US]]).



** Not to mention the "Farm of Tomorrow" and it's omnipresent, often disfiguring genetic engineering. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And also for inventing]] [[WebOriginal/LOLCats Longcat]].
** An [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness earlier]] Tex Avery short, "WesternAnimation/ILoveToSinga" is a great example. The plot is that the young [[PunnyName Owl Jolson]] is kicked out of his house by [[HairTriggerTemper his father]] for [[FelonyMisdemeanor liking Jazz music]], only for both parents to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone go to pieces]] worrying about him. At the time, it was mostly seen WholePlotReference to Film/TheJazzSinger, but a modern audience can easily see little Owl Jolson's then in-style flamboyance and parental persecution as a nod to the plight of gay or transgender kids. The father at one point even says "[[FantasticHomophobia Listen Mama, if he must sing, we will teach him to sing]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything like we want him to]]". It actually holds up better than the [[ValuesDissonance blackface celebrating]] [[Film/TheJazzSinger original]]!

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** Not to mention the "Farm of Tomorrow" and it's omnipresent, often disfiguring genetic engineering. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And also for inventing]] [[WebOriginal/LOLCats Longcat]].
** An [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness earlier]] Tex Avery short, "WesternAnimation/ILoveToSinga" is a great example. The plot is that the young [[PunnyName Owl Jolson]] is kicked out of his house by [[HairTriggerTemper his father]] for [[FelonyMisdemeanor liking Jazz music]], only for both parents to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone go to pieces]] worrying about him. At the time, it was mostly seen WholePlotReference to Film/TheJazzSinger, but a modern audience can easily see little Owl Jolson's then in-style flamboyance and parental persecution as a nod to the plight of gay or transgender kids. The father at one point even says "[[FantasticHomophobia Listen Mama, if he must sing, we will teach him to sing]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything like we want him to]]". It actually holds up better than the [[ValuesDissonance blackface celebrating]] [[Film/TheJazzSinger original]]!
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9th Aug '16 10:19:47 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* In the horror film ''Film/TheRageCarrie2'', a bunch of {{Jerk Jock}}s at a high school are targeted for death by a teenage girl whose best friend was DrivenToSuicide due to a toxic combination of rape culture, machismo, and a MadonnaWhoreComplex. This film was directed by a woman, and the aforementioned characters were [[RippedFromTheHeadlines loosely based]] on [[http://www.spin.com/2013/08/the-worst-moments-of-the-90s-worst-band-names-worst-lyrics-worst-video/130724-worst-of-the-90s-spur-posse/ a real-life scandal from a few years prior]] involving high school athletes treating their female classmates like sex objects. No, this film did not come out in 2016, inspired by the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steubenville_High_School_rape_case Steubenville rape case]]. It was released in 1998, long before the current debate on campus rape, toxic masculinity, and athlete entitlement was anywhere close to the mainstream.
6th Aug '16 4:17:08 AM Morgenthaler
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-->-- '''Creator/RodSerling''', ''[[Series/TheTwilightZone1959 The Twilight Zone]]'', "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" (1960).

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-->-- '''Creator/RodSerling''', ''[[Series/TheTwilightZone1959 The ''Series/{{The Twilight Zone]]'', Zone|1959}}'', "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street" (1960).
6th Aug '16 4:16:37 AM Morgenthaler
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** ''Theatre/{{Lysistrata}}'' has an overriding message of peace and, like many Aristophanes' plays, claims war is being prolonged by corrupt politicians. Due to this, the play ended up being performed a lot in the year the Iraq War began. It also has quite a bit to say on feminism and the kind of power women have. Not bad for a play that, even back then, was a raunchy sex comedy.

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** * ''Theatre/{{Lysistrata}}'' has an overriding message of peace and, like many Aristophanes' plays, claims war is being prolonged by corrupt politicians. Due to this, the play ended up being performed a lot in the year the Iraq War began. It also has quite a bit to say on feminism and the kind of power women have. Not bad for a play that, even back then, was a raunchy sex comedy.
1st Aug '16 5:23:18 PM comicwriter
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* ''Anime/GenmaWars'' (the '80s film, not the TV series) had a diverse cast consisting of men and women from around the world, and had a message about how people from all walks of life need to get along and work together to make the world a better place. Atypical for a lot of anime of the time, there's even a plot point about Luna needing to confront and overcome her racism towards black people.

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* ''Anime/GenmaWars'' (the '80s film, not the TV series) had a diverse cast consisting of men and women from around the world, various countries and had ethnic groups, and a message about how people from all walks of life need to get along and work together to make the world a better place. Atypical for a lot of anime of the time, there's even a plot point about Luna one of the heroines, Luna, needing to confront and overcome her racism towards black people.
1st Aug '16 5:21:58 PM comicwriter
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* ''Anime/GenmaTaisen'' (the '80s film, not the TV series) had a diverse cast consisting of men and women from around the world, and had a message about how people from all walks of life need to get along and work together to make the world a better place. Atypical for a lot of anime of the time, there's even a plot point about Luna needing to confront and overcome her racism towards black people.

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* ''Anime/GenmaTaisen'' ''Anime/GenmaWars'' (the '80s film, not the TV series) had a diverse cast consisting of men and women from around the world, and had a message about how people from all walks of life need to get along and work together to make the world a better place. Atypical for a lot of anime of the time, there's even a plot point about Luna needing to confront and overcome her racism towards black people.
1st Aug '16 5:17:19 PM comicwriter
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* ''LightNovel/DirtyPair'' had an episode with a sympathetic depiction of a trans woman during a time when most anime wouldn't even touch the subject, except as a source of comedy. What's more, Kei and Yuri actually shout down the bigot who has a problem with her, arguing that there's nothing abnormal about transgender people.


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* ''LightNovel/DirtyPair'' had an episode with a sympathetic depiction of a trans woman during a time when most anime wouldn't even touch the subject, except as a source of comedy. What's more, Kei and Yuri actually shout down the bigot who has a problem with her, arguing that there's nothing abnormal about transgender people.
1st Aug '16 3:51:21 PM comicwriter
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* ''LightNovel/DirtyPair'' had an episode with a sympathetic depiction of a trans woman during a time when most anime wouldn't even touch the subject, except as a source of comedy. What's more, Kei and Yuri actually shout down the bigot who has a problem with her, arguing that there's nothing abnormal about transgender people.


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* ''Anime/GenmaTaisen'' (the '80s film, not the TV series) had a diverse cast consisting of men and women from around the world, and had a message about how people from all walks of life need to get along and work together to make the world a better place. Atypical for a lot of anime of the time, there's even a plot point about Luna needing to confront and overcome her racism towards black people.
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