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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorcerer'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.

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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorcerer'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - -- fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.



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* In the [[MadeForTVMovie miniseries]] version of ''Literature/TheStand'', Mother [[MagicalNegro Abagail]] helpfully informs the heroes: ''"The Beast is loose in the fields of Bethlehem. The rats are in the corn!"'' She also says "AStormIsComing. ''[[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed His]]'' storm!" And "the rats are his."
** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"

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* In the [[MadeForTVMovie miniseries]] version first episode of ''Literature/TheStand'', Mother [[MagicalNegro Abagail]] helpfully informs ''Series/AgentCarter'', the heroes: ''"The Beast is loose in NebulousEvilOrganisation for the fields of Bethlehem. The rats are series is introduced in suitably ominous terms.
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' Leviathan is coming.
-->'''Peggy Carter:''' Who?
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' They'll tell you themselves soon enough. [[CrapsackWorld You're not going to like
the corn!"'' She future; such as it is.]]
* In ''Series/{{Atlantis}}'' the soothsayer tells Jason that he is the subject of a prophecy and vague destiny and doom and fate and other stuff is in his future. He's
also says "AStormIsComing. ''[[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed His]]'' storm!" TheChosenOne, although she doesn't tell Jason that or what exactly he is chosen ''for''. Specifics are rather thin on the ground.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
** Much of the fanfare around the First Evil -- ''"From beneath you, it devours."''
** Dawn was anticipated three times in a DreamSequence: Faith talking about "Little Miss Muffet", and with Faith saying "Little sis is coming" and Buffy responding [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo "I know."]]
And "the rats are his."
once with Tara saying "be back before Dawn." Note, the first of these was at the end of Season 3. Dawn came around in Season 5. Joss plans way too far ahead.
** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' The Beast's arrival in season 4 of ''Series/{{Angel}}'' is foreseen in vague implications of fire and blood. Before that, in season 3, the Nyazian scrolls contain vague forebodings about Angel's child, the return of Holtz, and the imminent destruction of mankind. Angel's crew and Wolfram and Hart repeatedly misinterpret the prophecies to be born?"their chagrin.
* The second episode of ''Series/DinosaurPlanet'' revolves around a catastrophic volcanic eruption threatening the lives of the dinosaurs of the Cretaceous Elkhorn Range. The dinosaurs being animals, they don't properly process what's about to happen, only being plagued by the telltale signs of the approaching disaster like violent explosions of gas and the smoking mountain. It's not until the pyroclastic flow from the eruption wipes out half of the region that the dinosaurs finally recognize that whatever is coming is a threat. [[spoiler: By then, it's too late, and the entire cast is wiped out.]]



** In 'The Beast Below', an episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'', there is a creature that everyone refers to only as...[[TitleDrop The Beast Below]].
** Practically all of the ArcWords of the revival of ''Doctor Who'' count as a vague threat - "Bad Wolf" (though that turned out to be a good thing), "You have something on your back", "He will knock four times", "The song is ending", "Darkness is coming", "The Pandorica Will Open", "Silence Will Fall", "Tick-Tock, goes the clock".
** "The Fires of Pompeii" is chock-full of this in [[IceCreamKoan even more bizarre form]] than usual, because the characters are ancient Romans being influenced by an alternative timeline to develop psychic powers which they naturally attribute to the gods and accordingly couch in all kinds of MeaninglessMeaningfulWords. Which is why it's nice when the Doctor eventually gets sick of it.

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** In 'The Beast Below', an episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'', there is a creature that everyone refers to only as...[[TitleDrop The Beast Below]].
** Practically all of the ArcWords of the revival of ''Doctor Who'' new series count as a vague threat - -- "Bad Wolf" (though that turned out to be a good thing), "You have something on your back", "He will knock four times", "The song is ending", "Darkness is coming", "The Pandorica Will Open", "Silence Will Fall", "Tick-Tock, goes the clock".
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii "The Fires of Pompeii" Pompeii"]] is chock-full of this in [[IceCreamKoan an even more bizarre form]] than usual, because the characters are ancient Romans being influenced by an alternative timeline to develop psychic powers which they naturally attribute to the gods gods, and accordingly couch in all kinds of MeaninglessMeaningfulWords. Which is why it's nice when the Doctor eventually gets sick of it.



** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow "The Beast Below"]], there is a creature that everyone refers to only as... [[TitleDrop the Beast Below]].



** The General tries to do this in "Hell Bent" with regard to the Hybrid (a fabled super-warrior, supposedly half-Time Lord, half-Dalek), a creature of prophecies that had been haunting the Doctor throughout Series 9. The Doctor, the one person who knows the truth about it, is having none of it.
--->'''General:''' Legends say--\\
'''Doctor:''' Nope.\\
'''General:''' ...some prophecies suggest--\\
'''Doctor:''' No.\\
'''General:''' ...many prophecies--\\
'''Doctor:''' ''No''.\\
'''General:''' ...''all'' Matrix prophecies ''concur'' that the Hybrid will bring ruin to Gallifrey.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
** Much of the fanfare around the First Evil - ''"From beneath you, it devours."''
** Dawn was anticipated three times in a DreamSequence: Faith talking about "Little Miss Muffet," and with Faith saying "Little sis is coming" and Buffy responding [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo "I know."]] And once with Tara saying "be back before Dawn." Note, the first of these was at the end of Season 3. Dawn came around in Season 5. Joss plans way too far ahead.
* The Beast's arrival in season 4 of ''Series/{{Angel}}'' is foreseen in vague implications of fire and blood. Before that, in season 3, the Nyazian scrolls contain vague forebodings about Angel's child, the return of Holtz, and the imminent destruction of mankind. Angel's crew and Wolfram and Hart repeatedly misinterpret the prophecies to their chagrin.
* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'':
** The Abaddon gets a few of these in the first series.
** ''"The twenty-first century is when everything changes."'' Repeated every few episodes, and in the opening narration.
** From "Children of Earth"; "WE...ARE...COMING!"
* ''Series/{{Lost}}'' adored this trope. Just about every season finale/season premiere (and quite a few regular episodes) would end with someone saying something along these lines. At least once, it was actually lampshaded--the psychic who advised Claire about her baby warned her that blurriness is a very bad sign in a premonition.

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** The General tries to do this in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent "Hell Bent" Bent"]] with regard to the Hybrid (a fabled super-warrior, supposedly half-Time Lord, half-Dalek), a creature of prophecies that had been haunting the Doctor throughout Series 9. The Doctor, the one person who knows the truth about it, is having none of it.
--->'''General:''' --->'''The General:''' Legends say--\\
'''Doctor:''' '''The Doctor:''' Nope.\\
'''General:''' ...'''The General:''' ...some prophecies suggest--\\
'''Doctor:''' '''The Doctor:''' No.\\
'''General:''' ...'''The General:''' ...many prophecies--\\
'''Doctor:''' '''The Doctor:''' ''No''.\\
'''General:''' ...'''The General:''' ...''all'' Matrix prophecies ''concur'' that the Hybrid will bring ruin to Gallifrey.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''
** Much
Played dead straight in the 2011-12 season finale of ''Series/{{Fringe}}''. After the main action of the fanfare around episode is wrapped up, one of the First Evil - ''"From beneath you, it devours."''
** Dawn was anticipated three
Observers appears to say to the hero "They are coming," and the season ends.
* In ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', early on several characters have visions of a mysterious woman who looks [[IdenticalStranger identical to Team Gaim's Mai]] and gives vague warnings about how dark
times in a DreamSequence: Faith talking about "Little Miss Muffet," are coming and with Faith saying "Little sis is coming" that they can achieve their heart's desire if they have the strength to persevere. [[spoiler:And then late in the series, we find out that this woman actually ''is'' Mai, who after gaining god-like power from the "Golden Fruit" used TimeTravel to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong try and Buffy responding [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo "I know."]] prevent all the terrible things that have happened]]. And once with Tara saying "be back before Dawn." Note, she wasn't vague on purpose, either; because she didn't have full control over her powers, her direct warnings like "Do NOT put on [[TransformationTrinket that belt]]!" were warped into the cryptic messages we saw [[OnceMoreWithClarity the first of these was at the end of Season 3. Dawn came around in Season 5. Joss plans way too far ahead.
* The Beast's arrival in season 4 of ''Series/{{Angel}}'' is foreseen in vague implications of fire and blood. Before that, in season 3, the Nyazian scrolls contain vague forebodings about Angel's child, the return of Holtz, and the imminent destruction of mankind. Angel's crew and Wolfram and Hart repeatedly misinterpret the prophecies to their chagrin.
* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'':
** The Abaddon gets a few of these in the first series.
** ''"The twenty-first century is when everything changes."'' Repeated every few episodes, and in the opening narration.
** From "Children of Earth"; "WE...ARE...COMING!"
time around]].]]
* ''Series/{{Lost}}'' adored this trope. Just about every season finale/season premiere (and quite a few regular episodes) would end with someone saying something along these lines. At least once, it was actually lampshaded--the lampshaded -- the psychic who advised Claire about her baby warned her that blurriness is a very bad sign in a premonition.



* Played dead straight in the 2011-12 season finale of ''Series/{{Fringe}}.'' After the main action of the episode is wrapped up, one of the Observers appears to say to the hero "They are coming." and the season ends.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''Franchise/TrainMan''. The main character often says "IT IS COMING...!" on his message-boards.
* In ''Series/{{Atlantis}}'' the soothsayer tells Jason that he is the subject of a prophecy and vague destiny and doom and fate and other stuff is in his future. He's also TheChosenOne, although she doesn't tell Jason that or what exactly he is chosen ''for''. Specifics are rather thin on the ground.

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* Played dead straight In the [[MadeForTVMovie miniseries]] version of ''Literature/TheStand'', Mother [[MagicalNegro Abagail]] helpfully informs the heroes: ''"The Beast is loose in the 2011-12 season finale fields of ''Series/{{Fringe}}.'' After Bethlehem. The rats are in the main action of the episode is wrapped up, one of the Observers appears to say to the hero "They are coming." and the season ends.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''Franchise/TrainMan''. The main character often
corn!"'' She also says "IT IS COMING...!" on his message-boards.
* In ''Series/{{Atlantis}}'' the soothsayer tells Jason that he is the subject of a prophecy and vague destiny and doom and fate and other stuff is in his future. He's also TheChosenOne, although she doesn't tell Jason that or what exactly he is chosen ''for''. Specifics
"AStormIsComing. ''[[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed His]]'' storm!" And "the rats are rather thin on the ground.his."
** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"



* In the first episode of ''Series/AgentCarter'', the NebulousEvilOrganisation for the series is introduced in suitably ominous terms.
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' Leviathan is coming.
-->'''Peggy Carter:''' Who?
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' They'll tell you themselves soon enough. [[CrapsackWorld You're not going to like the future; such as it is.]]
* In ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', early on several characters have visions of a mysterious woman who looks [[IdenticalStranger identical to Team Gaim's Mai]] and gives vague warnings about how dark times are coming and that they can achieve their heart's desire if they have the strength to persevere. [[spoiler:And then late in the series, we find out that this woman actually ''is'' Mai, who after gaining god-like power from the "Golden Fruit" used TimeTravel to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong try and prevent all the terrible things that have happened]]. And she wasn't vague on purpose, either; because she didn't have full control over her powers, her direct warnings like "Do NOT put on [[TransformationTrinket that belt]]!" were warped into the cryptic messages we saw [[OnceMoreWithClarity the first time around]].]]

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* In ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'':
** The Abaddon gets a few of these in
the first episode of ''Series/AgentCarter'', the NebulousEvilOrganisation for the series series.
** ''"The twenty-first century
is introduced in suitably ominous terms.
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' Leviathan is coming.
-->'''Peggy Carter:''' Who?
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' They'll tell you themselves soon enough. [[CrapsackWorld You're not going to like the future; such as it is.]]
* In ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', early on several characters have visions of a mysterious woman who looks [[IdenticalStranger identical to Team Gaim's Mai]]
when everything changes."'' Repeated every few episodes, and gives vague warnings about how dark times are coming and that they can achieve their heart's desire if they have the strength to persevere. [[spoiler:And then late in the series, we find out that this woman actually ''is'' Mai, who after gaining god-like power from the "Golden Fruit" used TimeTravel to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong try and prevent all the terrible things that have happened]]. And she wasn't vague opening narration.
** From "Children of Earth"; "WE...ARE...COMING!"
* PlayedForLaughs in ''Franchise/TrainMan''. The main character often says "IT IS COMING...!"
on purpose, either; because she didn't have full control over her powers, her direct warnings like "Do NOT put on [[TransformationTrinket that belt]]!" were warped into the cryptic messages we saw [[OnceMoreWithClarity the first time around]].]]his message-boards.



* The second episode of ''Series/DinosaurPlanet'' revolves around a catastrophic volcanic eruption threatening the lives of the dinosaurs of the Cretaceous Elkhorn Range. The dinosaurs being animals, they don't properly process what's about to happen, only being plagued by the telltale signs of the approaching disaster like violent explosions of gas and the smoking mountain. It's not until the pyroclastic flow from the eruption wipes out half of the region that the dinosaurs finally recognize that whatever is coming is a threat. [[spoiler: By then, it's too late, and the entire cast is wiped out.]]



* Near the end of the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Dreamscaperers", [[TheDreaded Bill Cipher]] tells the Pines Twins (and Soos) that "A darkness approaches... a day will come in the future when everything you care about will change. Until then, I'll be watching you! '''I'LL BE WATCHING YOU...'''"
** And in a flashback from "A Tale of Two Stans", Stanford's assistant Fiddleford makes this rambling after poking his head into the interdimensional portal.
-->"When Gravity Falls and Earth become sky, fear the beast with just one eye."



* In the season 3 premiere of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', Princess Celestia is signing papers in her throne room when a guard rushes in to inform her "''It'' has returned", causing her to drop everything. "It" turns out to refer to [[VanishingVillage the Crystal Empire]].



* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': At the beginning of [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS3E19ZeroHour "Zero Hour"]], [[spoiler:Kallus]], aka [[ReverseMole Fulcrum]], is only able to send the rebels a brief message about what the Empire's about to do due to his transmission being blocked partway through.
-->"This is Fulcrum. Thrawn knows abou--"
* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** At the end of "Ocean Gem", Garnet and Pearl muse about what the future will bring after [[spoiler:Lapis Lazuli manages to leave Earth.]]
** In "Catch and Release", [[spoiler: the Crystal Gems capture Peridot, who cryptically rambles about the Cluster, a dangerous experiment done by the Homeworld that could spell the end of Earth if it "awakens".]]



* In the season 3 premiere of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', Princess Celestia is signing papers in her throne room when a guard rushes in to inform her "''It'' has returned", causing her to drop everything. "It" turns out to refer to [[VanishingVillage the Crystal Empire]].
* Near the end of the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Dreamscaperers", [[TheDreaded Bill Cipher]] tells the Pines Twins (and Soos) that "A darkness approaches... a day will come in the future when everything you care about will change. Until then, I'll be watching you! '''I'LL BE WATCHING YOU...'''"
** And in a flashback from "A Tale of Two Stans", Stanford's assistant Fiddleford makes this rambling after poking his head into the interdimensional portal.
-->"When Gravity Falls and Earth become sky, fear the beast with just one eye."
* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** At the end of "Ocean Gem", Garnet and Pearl muse about what the future will bring after [[spoiler:Lapis Lazuli manages to leave Earth.]]
** In "Catch and Release", [[spoiler: the Crystal Gems capture Peridot, who cryptically rambles about the Cluster, a dangerous experiment done by the Homeworld that could spell the end of Earth if it "awakens".]]


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* In the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse novels ''Literature/{{Thrawn}}'' and ''[[Literature/AftermathEmpiresEnd Empire's End]]'', a threat in the Unknown Regions of space is alluded to by several characters. We never learn what it is, but it spooked [[BigBad Palpatine]] and also was serious enough that [[TheChessmaster Thrawn]] felt the need to go looking for allies to combat it. It's implied to be the BigBad of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Supreme Leader Snoke, but there's no telling for sure at the moment.


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* In the first season finale of ''Series/TheWalkingDead'', Rick's group is being allowed to escape the self-destructing CDC by Dr. Jenner. Rick tells Jenner that he's grateful he's letting them escape and live, but Jenner cryptically warns him, "the day will come when you won't be." Jenner is accurately predicting the hardships that the group will face out in the apocalypse, but the Season 7 premiere, named after Jenner's quote, strongly implies that the day [[BigBad Negan]] arrived was the day Jenner inadvertently warned Rick about all those years ago. Even before the Season 7 premiere, hints foreshadowing Negan's arrival came off as this, such as the presence of the Saviors mentioning their unseen boss with reverence in early Season 6, making us wonder just who they're talking about. In the mid-season premiere of Season 6, a Savior tells the characters that they must submit to Negan, but at the time, we don't know who he is or what he's talking about.
* The ending of ''Series/WalkingWithDinosaurs'' depicts the Cretaceous extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs. In their final moments, the dinosaurs of Montana are all seen pausing and looking up at the sky, sensing ''something'' approaching. The kid-friendly ''Prehistoric Planet'' version also emphasizes that the dinosaurs don't know what's coming, even if they can sense something.
* The second episode of ''Series/DinosaurPlanet'' revolves around a catastrophic volcanic eruption threatening the lives of the dinosaurs of the Cretaceous Elkhorn Range. The dinosaurs being animals, they don't properly process what's about to happen, only being plagued by the telltale signs of the approaching disaster like violent explosions of gas and the smoking mountain. It's not until the pyroclastic flow from the eruption wipes out half of the region that the dinosaurs finally recognize that whatever is coming is a threat. [[spoiler: By then, it's too late, and the entire cast is wiped out.]]
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* ''Fanfic/TheVerySecretDiary'': While trying to sort Ginny into her house, the Sorting Hat detected Tom Riddle's presence, but only warned, "There is something alien in this brain of yours, my girl...take heed...". Ginny, of course, didn't understand the problem.
8th Mar '17 10:42:12 AM ChaoticNovelist
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So the plot of your standard fantasy or adventure story needs to keep referencing the story arc or continuing plot, and the heroes need to know there's some sort of threat and it's big, and dangerous, and evil. Not a problem, unless you can't let the heroes, or the audience, know what that threat actually is.

Hence we get [[MadOracle visions]] and [[InfallibleBabble prophecies]] and bits of [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness vagueness]] like "[[MadeOfEvil Evil]] is coming", "[[YouKnowTheOne The darkness]] will arrive" or possibly "TheEndIsNigh", or some such. The audience is reminded of a coming villain or threat but is never really given a clue what it might be. It could occur once or in [[OncePerEpisode every episode]]. Omens, like strange animals, strange behavior or peculiar weather can also work.

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So the plot of your standard fantasy or adventure story needs to keep referencing the story arc or continuing plot, and the heroes need to know there's some sort of threat and it's big, and dangerous, and evil. Not a problem, unless you can't let the heroes, or the audience, know what that threat actually is.is specifically.

Hence we get [[MadOracle crazy visions]] and [[InfallibleBabble nonsense prophecies]] and bits of [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness vagueness]] like shadowy groups talking of vagueness]]. They typically consist of "[[MadeOfEvil Evil]] is coming", "[[YouKnowTheOne The darkness]] "The darkness will arrive" or possibly "TheEndIsNigh", or some such. The audience is reminded of a coming villain or threat but is never really given a clue what it might be. It could occur once or in [[OncePerEpisode every episode]]. Omens, like strange animals, strange behavior or peculiar weather can also work.



Goes beyond {{Foreshadowing}}. See also CrypticConversation and OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness. Often YouWillKnowWhatToDo. Even if the audience doesn't.

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Goes beyond {{Foreshadowing}}. See also CrypticConversation and OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness. Often YouWillKnowWhatToDo. Even if the audience doesn't.\n



* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': The Skull Knight makes his first appearance [[spoiler: after Guts defeats Griffith and leaves the Band of the Hawk]] and tells Guts that from that moment up until [[spoiler: the Eclipse]] in one year, he and his friends have begun walking toward their doom. Though he does not give any more detail about what [[spoiler: the Eclipse]] actually does or signifies, he doesn't hesitate to tell Guts that when it does go down, horrible things will happen, saying that [[AStormIsComing a storm of death will come and consume the Band of the Hawk]] [[spoiler: which is quite literal when the Eclipse actually does happen -- and the chapter where it all starts going down is even called "Storm of Death."]] A year later, [[spoiler: when Griffith reaches his DespairEventHorizon and activates his [[ChekhovsGun Crimson Behelit]] and the Eclipse finally happens]], all Guts could think was that he and his comrades were in terrible danger.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'':
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The Skull Knight makes his first appearance [[spoiler: after Guts defeats Griffith and leaves the Band of the Hawk]] and tells Guts that from that moment up until [[spoiler: the Eclipse]] in one year, he and his friends have begun walking toward their doom. Though he does not give any more detail about what [[spoiler: the Eclipse]] actually does or signifies, he doesn't hesitate to tell Guts that when it does go down, horrible things will happen, saying that [[AStormIsComing a storm of death will come and consume the Band of the Hawk]] [[spoiler: which is quite literal when the Eclipse actually does happen -- and the chapter where it all starts going down is even called "Storm of Death."]] A year later, [[spoiler: when Griffith reaches his DespairEventHorizon and activates his [[ChekhovsGun Crimson Behelit]] and the Eclipse finally happens]], all Guts could think was that he and his comrades were in terrible danger.



* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded It's lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]
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* Justified in ''Anime/GurrenLagann'' when Guame makes a pair of cryptic references to humanity's "true enemy" and the danger of Spiral Power (referring to [[spoiler:the Anti-Spirals]] and [[spoiler:the Spiral Nemesis]] respectively). In the first case he was musing aloud and in the second he was speaking to his boss who already knows about both; so he doesn't provide details because he doesn't need to.
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** And in a flashback from "A Tale of Two Stans", Stanford's assistant Fiddleford makes this rambling after poking his head into teh interdimensional portal.

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** And in a flashback from "A Tale of Two Stans", Stanford's assistant Fiddleford makes this rambling after poking his head into teh the interdimensional portal.
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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler:Reiner and Bertolt]] after revealing themselves make vague references to a force that lies beyond the walls also "their hometown", and repeatedly state that "there's no future inside the walls". [[spoiler:Uri Reiss]] also made similar statements.
21st Oct '16 8:26:32 AM merotoker
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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]



* Various characters in ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' get thoroughly fed up with this; the ghost of Colin Piggy aka the [[spoiler: avatar of Hope]] appears to both Snow White and Rose Red to warn them things are about to get tougher and they need to brace themselves. Both of them repeatedly ask for useful details, but the vision says it can never stay for very long and always disappears before giving any information that would actually help them prepare a plan. The discovery of what the vision really is makes this a JustifiedTrope; [[spoiler: Hope isn't about reason or making strategies to survive, its province is the simple refusal to lie down and give up the fight, so it makes sense that it only tells people to summon their strength.]]

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* Various characters in ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' get thoroughly fed up with this; the ghost of Colin Piggy aka the [[spoiler: avatar of Hope]] appears to both Snow White and Rose Red to warn them things are about to get tougher and they need to brace themselves. Both of them repeatedly ask for useful details, but the vision says it can never stay for very long and always disappears before giving any information that would actually help them prepare a plan. The discovery of what the vision really is makes this a JustifiedTrope; [[spoiler: Hope isn't about reason or making strategies to survive, its province is the simple refusal to lie down and give up the fight, so it makes sense that it only tells people to summon their strength.]]strength]].



* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the [[BadFuture Dark World]] Series has this happen starting with the StormingTheCastle Arc: [[spoiler: It starts with [[TheStarscream the Valeyard]]'s FinalSpeech implying that Discord isn't the only BigBad they need to worry about. Then Aquamarine, a Sea Pony they meet, warns of an Alicorn Witch coming to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], and after helping defeat [[OneWingedAngel Odyne]]![[TheDragon Cruelty]], Fluttershy's ghost warns them that they're "Apple Pie's hamster" (Apple Pie's pet hamster is named [[GroundhogDayLoop Groundhog]]). These are all warnings about the true BigBad, [[KnightTemplar Nightmare Eclipse/Paradox]].]]
** Comically subverted with the prophecy [[spoiler:Princess Thalia (Pinkie's potential future Alicorn incarnation) gave her potential followers, the Love Cats.]] It is ''very'' specific [[spoiler:right down to mentioning that Moth and her fellow reformed Changelings aren't bad guys. It specifically says the Changelings are the bad guys 'except the one who looks like Bon Bon and her friends.']]

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* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the [[BadFuture Dark World]] Series has this happen starting with the StormingTheCastle Arc: [[spoiler: It starts with [[TheStarscream the Valeyard]]'s FinalSpeech implying that Discord isn't the only BigBad they need to worry about. Then Aquamarine, a Sea Pony they meet, warns of an Alicorn Witch coming to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], and after helping defeat [[OneWingedAngel Odyne]]![[TheDragon Cruelty]], Fluttershy's ghost warns them that they're "Apple Pie's hamster" (Apple Pie's pet hamster is named [[GroundhogDayLoop Groundhog]]). {{Groundhog|DayLoop}}). These are all warnings about the true BigBad, [[KnightTemplar Nightmare Eclipse/Paradox]].]]
Eclipse/Paradox]]]].
** Comically subverted with the prophecy [[spoiler:Princess Thalia (Pinkie's potential future Alicorn incarnation) gave her potential followers, the Love Cats.]] Cats]]. It is ''very'' specific [[spoiler:right down to mentioning that Moth and her fellow reformed Changelings aren't bad guys. It specifically says the Changelings are the bad guys 'except the one who looks like Bon Bon and her friends.']]



* In ''HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', both Hagrid and Dumbledore repeatedly say that "dark days are coming", but don't offer much explanation.

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* In ''HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', ''Fanfic/HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', both Hagrid and Dumbledore repeatedly say that "dark days are coming", but don't offer much explanation.



* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'', Fiver's descriptions of his prophetic visions take this form: "I know now… a terrible thing is coming." … "something ''very bad is about to'' happen...! ''It's all around us!"'' and later, "There's a ''bad'' danger coming--" "--It's not good!" (it indeed proves to be [[SugarApocalypse very bad]]). This makes sense, as Fiver is not only a ''rabbit'', but a little kid, and the [[ConstructedLanguage rabbit language]] that [[TranslationConvention all the dialogue is being translated from]] almost certainly has no words to even remotely describe [[spoiler:the warren being filled with poison gas]].

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* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'', ''WesternAnimation/WatershipDown'', Fiver's descriptions of his prophetic visions take this form: "I know now… a terrible thing is coming." … "something ''very bad is about to'' happen...! ''It's all around us!"'' and later, "There's a ''bad'' danger coming--" "--It's not good!" (it indeed proves to be [[SugarApocalypse very bad]]). This makes sense, as Fiver is not only a ''rabbit'', but a little kid, and the [[ConstructedLanguage rabbit language]] that [[TranslationConvention all the dialogue is being translated from]] almost certainly has no words to even remotely describe [[spoiler:the warren being filled with poison gas]].



* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorceror'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.

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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorceror'', Sorcerer'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.



* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming -- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.

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In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming -- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.



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** The Grand Conjunction itself was one at the time. A prophecy by the Hyskosa, the setting's Nostradamus analogue, laid out six incredibly vague events that, when brought to pass, would lead to the destruction of the entire demiplane. Only interference by Azalin, who had been [[TheChessmaster manipulating events]] to bring the prophecies about ahead of time and inadvertently [[NiceJobFixingItVillain juxtaposing the last two verses]] prevented the Grand Conjunction from taking hold in full. Even so, the turmoil was tremendous, leading to a modified [[ApocalypseHow Class 1]], with several domains shuffled, lost, destroyed, and discovered, along with a massive BottomlessPit covering hundreds of square miles in the center of the Core's landmass.

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** The Grand Conjunction itself was one at the time. A prophecy by the Hyskosa, the setting's Nostradamus analogue, laid out six incredibly vague events that, when brought to pass, would lead to the destruction of the entire demiplane. Only interference by Azalin, who had been [[TheChessmaster manipulating events]] to bring the prophecies about ahead of time and inadvertently [[NiceJobFixingItVillain juxtaposing the last two verses]] prevented the Grand Conjunction from taking hold in full. Even so, the turmoil was tremendous, leading to a modified [[ApocalypseHow Class 1]], with several domains shuffled, lost, destroyed, and discovered, along with a massive BottomlessPit {{Bottomless Pit|s}} covering hundreds of square miles in the center of the Core's landmass.



* Play through Universe mode in the ''[[VideoGame/WWEVideoGames WWE]]'' series and sooner or later an angle will crop up hinting The End is Coming. One of the guys or girls on your roster is going to be pushed into a Undertaker or Sting style feud, generally a FaceHeelTurn, with all the hoopla such a feud entails.
* Probably one of the harder-to-find examples: buried within the code of ''[[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Undertale]]'' is Entry #17, the only one not among [[spoiler:Alphys' notes in the [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon True Lab]]]]. The entry was apparently written by [[TheGhost Doctor W.D. Gaster himself]], and references his monitoring of some kind of ever-increasing darkness (in which photon readings are apparently ''negative''), before asking "What do you two think?" The identity of those he addresses are unknown.
* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]

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* Play through Universe mode in the ''[[VideoGame/WWEVideoGames WWE]]'' series and sooner or later an angle will crop up hinting The End is Coming. One of the guys or girls on your roster is going to be pushed into a an Undertaker or Sting style feud, generally a FaceHeelTurn, with all the hoopla such a feud entails.
* Probably one of the harder-to-find examples: buried within the code of ''[[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Undertale]]'' ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is Entry #17, the only one not among [[spoiler:Alphys' notes in the [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon True Lab]]]]. The entry was apparently written by [[TheGhost Doctor W.D. Gaster himself]], and references his monitoring of some kind of ever-increasing darkness (in which photon readings are apparently ''negative''), before asking "What do you two think?" The identity of those he addresses are unknown.
* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' ''VideoGame/{{Mortal Kombat|1}}'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]



* What may be the final years-long mega StoryArc in ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' started with hints that the Web of Fate has an enormous tangle of some sort and is due to break soon, indicating some kind of cataclysmic events in the world, which it reflects. It's since been revealed that this apparently refers to [[spoiler: events, seen to be taking place in the future in several parallel dimensions, where almost everything on the surface of the Earth is sent to other random dimensions, also potentially leading to a collapse of the whole dimension from such abuse of portal technology.]] However, the exact form of the events taking place in the here and now is still unknown.

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* What may be the final years-long mega StoryArc in ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' started with hints that the Web of Fate has an enormous tangle of some sort and is due to break soon, indicating some kind of cataclysmic events in the world, which it reflects. It's since been revealed that this apparently refers to [[spoiler: events, seen to be taking place in the future in several parallel dimensions, where almost everything on the surface of the Earth is sent to other random dimensions, also potentially leading to a collapse of the whole dimension from such abuse of portal technology.]] technology]]. However, the exact form of the events taking place in the here and now is still unknown.



* "Prophets" who have predicted the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt tend to keep things vague so they can update them when their 'prophecy' doesn't pan out.

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** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, ''[[SlouchOfVillainy slouches toward]] [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"

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** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, ''[[SlouchOfVillainy slouches toward]] [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"
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* In ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', early on several characters have visions of a mysterious woman who looks [[IdenticalStranger identical to Team Gaim's Mai]] and gives vague warnings about how dark times are coming and that they can achieve their heart's desire if they have the strength to persevere. [[spoiler:And then late in the series, we find out that this woman actually ''is'' Mai, who after gaining god-like power from the "Golden Fruit" used TimeTravel to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong try and prevent all the terrible things that have happened]]. And she wasn't vague on purpose, either; because she didn't have full control over her powers, her direct warnings like "Do NOT put on [[TransformationTrinket that belt]]!" were warped into the cryptic messages we saw [[OnceMoreWithClarity the first time around]].]]


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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]
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