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* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', [[spoiler:Reiner and Bertolt]] after revealing themselves make vague references to a force that lies beyond the walls also "their hometown", and repeatedly state that "there's no future inside the walls". [[spoiler:Uri Reiss]] also made similar statements.
21st Oct '16 8:26:32 AM merotoker
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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' gives this as an ability to the Saint Church's knight, Knight Carim, allowing her to write vague poems that apparently predict the future. She can only write them once a year, as well. Lampshaded within the show, with the TSAB's higher-ups [[CassandraTruth refusing to believe her prophecies due to vagueness.]] The most major instance of this is when she prophesies the "Ship of Law guarding the land" being destroyed. When [[spoiler:Section Six and the Ground Forces]] are subsequently destroyed, they thought that this was what the prophecy meant (and what the heroes were trying to prevent). [[spoiler:Until the ancient warship of the Belkans, a Lost Logia, is reconstructed by Jail Scaglietti. The prophecy was pointing to Section Six successfully destroying it.]]



* Various characters in ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' get thoroughly fed up with this; the ghost of Colin Piggy aka the [[spoiler: avatar of Hope]] appears to both Snow White and Rose Red to warn them things are about to get tougher and they need to brace themselves. Both of them repeatedly ask for useful details, but the vision says it can never stay for very long and always disappears before giving any information that would actually help them prepare a plan. The discovery of what the vision really is makes this a JustifiedTrope; [[spoiler: Hope isn't about reason or making strategies to survive, its province is the simple refusal to lie down and give up the fight, so it makes sense that it only tells people to summon their strength.]]

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* Various characters in ''Comicbook/{{Fables}}'' get thoroughly fed up with this; the ghost of Colin Piggy aka the [[spoiler: avatar of Hope]] appears to both Snow White and Rose Red to warn them things are about to get tougher and they need to brace themselves. Both of them repeatedly ask for useful details, but the vision says it can never stay for very long and always disappears before giving any information that would actually help them prepare a plan. The discovery of what the vision really is makes this a JustifiedTrope; [[spoiler: Hope isn't about reason or making strategies to survive, its province is the simple refusal to lie down and give up the fight, so it makes sense that it only tells people to summon their strength.]]strength]].



* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the [[BadFuture Dark World]] Series has this happen starting with the StormingTheCastle Arc: [[spoiler: It starts with [[TheStarscream the Valeyard]]'s FinalSpeech implying that Discord isn't the only BigBad they need to worry about. Then Aquamarine, a Sea Pony they meet, warns of an Alicorn Witch coming to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], and after helping defeat [[OneWingedAngel Odyne]]![[TheDragon Cruelty]], Fluttershy's ghost warns them that they're "Apple Pie's hamster" (Apple Pie's pet hamster is named [[GroundhogDayLoop Groundhog]]). These are all warnings about the true BigBad, [[KnightTemplar Nightmare Eclipse/Paradox]].]]
** Comically subverted with the prophecy [[spoiler:Princess Thalia (Pinkie's potential future Alicorn incarnation) gave her potential followers, the Love Cats.]] It is ''very'' specific [[spoiler:right down to mentioning that Moth and her fellow reformed Changelings aren't bad guys. It specifically says the Changelings are the bad guys 'except the one who looks like Bon Bon and her friends.']]

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* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the [[BadFuture Dark World]] Series has this happen starting with the StormingTheCastle Arc: [[spoiler: It starts with [[TheStarscream the Valeyard]]'s FinalSpeech implying that Discord isn't the only BigBad they need to worry about. Then Aquamarine, a Sea Pony they meet, warns of an Alicorn Witch coming to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], and after helping defeat [[OneWingedAngel Odyne]]![[TheDragon Cruelty]], Fluttershy's ghost warns them that they're "Apple Pie's hamster" (Apple Pie's pet hamster is named [[GroundhogDayLoop Groundhog]]). {{Groundhog|DayLoop}}). These are all warnings about the true BigBad, [[KnightTemplar Nightmare Eclipse/Paradox]].]]
Eclipse/Paradox]]]].
** Comically subverted with the prophecy [[spoiler:Princess Thalia (Pinkie's potential future Alicorn incarnation) gave her potential followers, the Love Cats.]] Cats]]. It is ''very'' specific [[spoiler:right down to mentioning that Moth and her fellow reformed Changelings aren't bad guys. It specifically says the Changelings are the bad guys 'except the one who looks like Bon Bon and her friends.']]



* In ''HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', both Hagrid and Dumbledore repeatedly say that "dark days are coming", but don't offer much explanation.

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* In ''HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', ''Fanfic/HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', both Hagrid and Dumbledore repeatedly say that "dark days are coming", but don't offer much explanation.



* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'', Fiver's descriptions of his prophetic visions take this form: "I know now… a terrible thing is coming." … "something ''very bad is about to'' happen...! ''It's all around us!"'' and later, "There's a ''bad'' danger coming--" "--It's not good!" (it indeed proves to be [[SugarApocalypse very bad]]). This makes sense, as Fiver is not only a ''rabbit'', but a little kid, and the [[ConstructedLanguage rabbit language]] that [[TranslationConvention all the dialogue is being translated from]] almost certainly has no words to even remotely describe [[spoiler:the warren being filled with poison gas]].

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* In ''Literature/WatershipDown'', ''WesternAnimation/WatershipDown'', Fiver's descriptions of his prophetic visions take this form: "I know now… a terrible thing is coming." … "something ''very bad is about to'' happen...! ''It's all around us!"'' and later, "There's a ''bad'' danger coming--" "--It's not good!" (it indeed proves to be [[SugarApocalypse very bad]]). This makes sense, as Fiver is not only a ''rabbit'', but a little kid, and the [[ConstructedLanguage rabbit language]] that [[TranslationConvention all the dialogue is being translated from]] almost certainly has no words to even remotely describe [[spoiler:the warren being filled with poison gas]].



* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorceror'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.

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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' spinoffs, notably ''Belgarath the Sorceror'', Sorcerer'', which outright states that all prophets are madmen. Unfortunately, not all madmen are prophets, so many books of alleged ''prophecy'' are just plain nonsense - fortunately, as an immortal, Belgarath has enough time to sort it out.



* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming -- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.

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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''
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In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming -- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.



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** The Grand Conjunction itself was one at the time. A prophecy by the Hyskosa, the setting's Nostradamus analogue, laid out six incredibly vague events that, when brought to pass, would lead to the destruction of the entire demiplane. Only interference by Azalin, who had been [[TheChessmaster manipulating events]] to bring the prophecies about ahead of time and inadvertently [[NiceJobFixingItVillain juxtaposing the last two verses]] prevented the Grand Conjunction from taking hold in full. Even so, the turmoil was tremendous, leading to a modified [[ApocalypseHow Class 1]], with several domains shuffled, lost, destroyed, and discovered, along with a massive BottomlessPit covering hundreds of square miles in the center of the Core's landmass.

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** The Grand Conjunction itself was one at the time. A prophecy by the Hyskosa, the setting's Nostradamus analogue, laid out six incredibly vague events that, when brought to pass, would lead to the destruction of the entire demiplane. Only interference by Azalin, who had been [[TheChessmaster manipulating events]] to bring the prophecies about ahead of time and inadvertently [[NiceJobFixingItVillain juxtaposing the last two verses]] prevented the Grand Conjunction from taking hold in full. Even so, the turmoil was tremendous, leading to a modified [[ApocalypseHow Class 1]], with several domains shuffled, lost, destroyed, and discovered, along with a massive BottomlessPit {{Bottomless Pit|s}} covering hundreds of square miles in the center of the Core's landmass.



* Play through Universe mode in the ''[[VideoGame/WWEVideoGames WWE]]'' series and sooner or later an angle will crop up hinting The End is Coming. One of the guys or girls on your roster is going to be pushed into a Undertaker or Sting style feud, generally a FaceHeelTurn, with all the hoopla such a feud entails.
* Probably one of the harder-to-find examples: buried within the code of ''[[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Undertale]]'' is Entry #17, the only one not among [[spoiler:Alphys' notes in the [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon True Lab]]]]. The entry was apparently written by [[TheGhost Doctor W.D. Gaster himself]], and references his monitoring of some kind of ever-increasing darkness (in which photon readings are apparently ''negative''), before asking "What do you two think?" The identity of those he addresses are unknown.
* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]

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* Play through Universe mode in the ''[[VideoGame/WWEVideoGames WWE]]'' series and sooner or later an angle will crop up hinting The End is Coming. One of the guys or girls on your roster is going to be pushed into a an Undertaker or Sting style feud, generally a FaceHeelTurn, with all the hoopla such a feud entails.
* Probably one of the harder-to-find examples: buried within the code of ''[[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Undertale]]'' ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is Entry #17, the only one not among [[spoiler:Alphys' notes in the [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon True Lab]]]]. The entry was apparently written by [[TheGhost Doctor W.D. Gaster himself]], and references his monitoring of some kind of ever-increasing darkness (in which photon readings are apparently ''negative''), before asking "What do you two think?" The identity of those he addresses are unknown.
* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' ''VideoGame/{{Mortal Kombat|1}}'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]



* What may be the final years-long mega StoryArc in ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' started with hints that the Web of Fate has an enormous tangle of some sort and is due to break soon, indicating some kind of cataclysmic events in the world, which it reflects. It's since been revealed that this apparently refers to [[spoiler: events, seen to be taking place in the future in several parallel dimensions, where almost everything on the surface of the Earth is sent to other random dimensions, also potentially leading to a collapse of the whole dimension from such abuse of portal technology.]] However, the exact form of the events taking place in the here and now is still unknown.

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* What may be the final years-long mega StoryArc in ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' started with hints that the Web of Fate has an enormous tangle of some sort and is due to break soon, indicating some kind of cataclysmic events in the world, which it reflects. It's since been revealed that this apparently refers to [[spoiler: events, seen to be taking place in the future in several parallel dimensions, where almost everything on the surface of the Earth is sent to other random dimensions, also potentially leading to a collapse of the whole dimension from such abuse of portal technology.]] technology]]. However, the exact form of the events taking place in the here and now is still unknown.



* "Prophets" who have predicted the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt tend to keep things vague so they can update them when their 'prophecy' doesn't pan out.

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* "Prophets" who have predicted the EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt tend to keep things vague so they can update them when their 'prophecy' doesn't pan out.
12th Oct '16 12:17:22 AM GoblinCipher
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** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, ''[[SlouchOfVillainy slouches toward]] [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"

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** Both quote Creator/{{Yeats}}: "What rough Beast, its hour come round at last, ''[[SlouchOfVillainy slouches toward]] [[FauxSymbolism Bethlehem]]'' to be born?"
22nd Aug '16 8:05:23 PM LinTaylor
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* In ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', early on several characters have visions of a mysterious woman who looks [[IdenticalStranger identical to Team Gaim's Mai]] and gives vague warnings about how dark times are coming and that they can achieve their heart's desire if they have the strength to persevere. [[spoiler:And then late in the series, we find out that this woman actually ''is'' Mai, who after gaining god-like power from the "Golden Fruit" used TimeTravel to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong try and prevent all the terrible things that have happened]]. And she wasn't vague on purpose, either; because she didn't have full control over her powers, her direct warnings like "Do NOT put on [[TransformationTrinket that belt]]!" were warped into the cryptic messages we saw [[OnceMoreWithClarity the first time around]].]]


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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombat2011'': The game starts after ''VideoGame/MortalKombatArmageddon'', with [[TheBadGuyWins Shao Kahn victorious]] and [[KillEmAll all the heroes dead]]. [[BigGood Raiden]] uses the last of his power to send a message back in time to himself around the time of the first ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' game, including images of some of the disasters that have come to pass and the words "He must win." Past!Raiden does his best to act on this cryptic warning, but his attempts [[NiceJobBreakingItHero tend to backfire spectacularly]], like how [[spoiler:he keeps Smoke from getting [[UnwillingRoboticization turned into a cyborg]]...but it happens to the second Sub-Zero instead]]. It isn't until the end of the game when when Raiden finally realizes what his future self was trying to say: [[spoiler:the "he" is Shao Kahn himself -- once he breaks the rules by going to Earthrealm without winning the Mortal Kombat tournament, the Elder Gods finally get off their divine asses and smite him. Unfortunately at that point most of the cast is dead, including [[TheHero Liu Kang]], Earth is in ruins thanks to the invasion, and Shinnok is waiting for ''his'' chance to take over...]]
7th Aug '16 6:56:03 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' has it as its ArcWords: "The sun approaches the horizon. The Everstorm comes. The True Desolation. The Night of Sorrows." Interestingly, while the first seems metaphorical, [[spoiler:the Everstorm comes in the climax of ''Words of Radiance'']] and the Desolations are real events that are much worse. One starts to wonder how terrible the Night of Sorrows will prove...

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* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' has it as its ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'':
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ArcWords: "The sun approaches the horizon. The Everstorm comes. The True Desolation. The Night of Sorrows." Interestingly, while the first seems metaphorical, [[spoiler:the Everstorm comes in the climax of ''Words of Radiance'']] and the Desolations are real events that are much worse. One starts to wonder how terrible the Night of Sorrows will prove...prove...
** Then there are the Death Rattles, prophetic whispers sometimes uttered by the dying. They describe many of the events of the books weeks or even months before they happen, but use such obscure terminology it's nearly impossible to puzzle them out even after the fact. Notable that the ArcWords were a Death Rattle, and bits and pieces of them show up all the time.
3rd Aug '16 9:52:46 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', [[FaintingSeer Eljuia ]]is pretty upfront that he doesn't have much to go on in his visions of what's about to come, but it always looks ominous.
23rd Jul '16 2:25:29 PM Gamermaster
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Subtrope of PortentOfDoom. AStormIsComing is a specific subtrope. Related to ArcWords. PoorcommunicationKills goes with the territory if the confused characters aren't asking the obvious questions or for clarification. Not to be confused with HarbingerOfImpendingDoom.

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Subtrope of PortentOfDoom. AStormIsComing is a specific subtrope. Related to ArcWords. PoorcommunicationKills PoorCommunicationKills goes with the territory if the confused characters aren't asking the obvious questions or for clarification. Not to be confused with HarbingerOfImpendingDoom.
13th Jul '16 6:08:35 PM JackG
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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming –- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.

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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS02E21AllHellBreaksLoosePartOne "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One" (S02, Ep21)]], Sam says, "I mean, the size of what's coming –- -- it's bigger than anyone has ever seen. I mean, it's gonna get bad." But, Sam really does not flesh this out further.


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* In the first episode of ''Series/AgentCarter'', the NebulousEvilOrganisation for the series is introduced in suitably ominous terms.
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' Leviathan is coming.
-->'''Peggy Carter:''' Who?
-->'''Leet Brannis:''' They'll tell you themselves soon enough. [[CrapsackWorld You're not going to like the future; such as it is.]]
9th Jul '16 2:35:00 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', Gaaki's Mask of Clairvoyance gives her visions of the future, and for some reason causes her to speak in extremely vague terms. However, her teammates are occasionally able to decipher her ramblings, e.g. "Seekers of Shadows" means the Dark Hunters.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'', Gaaki's Mask of Clairvoyance gives her visions of the future, and for some reason causes her to speak in extremely vague terms. However, her teammates are occasionally able to decipher her ramblings, e.g. "Seekers of Shadows" means the Dark Hunters.
20th Jun '16 2:05:42 AM Doug86
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I met a [[HallmarkSentiment young girl, she gave me a rainbow]]...\\

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I met a [[HallmarkSentiment [[SugarWiki/AHallmarkPresentation young girl, she gave me a rainbow]]...\\
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