History Main / VagueAge

23rd Apr '17 8:16:15 PM nombretomado
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* Usually this isn't an issue with main characters in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'', but Judas's age is a problem. [[spoiler: Leon was 16 when he died]], and Judas still looks young, but [[spoiler: considering he was revived at some undetermined point between the Eye of Atamoni incident and the present]] in ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2'', and he's treated like the old guy of the group, he could be anywhere from 16 to 34.

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* Usually this isn't an issue with main characters in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'', ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', but Judas's age is a problem. [[spoiler: Leon was 16 when he died]], and Judas still looks young, but [[spoiler: considering he was revived at some undetermined point between the Eye of Atamoni incident and the present]] in ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2'', and he's treated like the old guy of the group, he could be anywhere from 16 to 34.
22nd Apr '17 9:42:17 PM Shadoboy
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* Some of the characters in the ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' series fall into this. Ashley's the most obvious example (her 'official' age is supposedly around 15 according to the US website, and unstated in Japan), and her design is so vague that it's kind of hard to tell what age the character is outside of 'looks fairly young'. Same deal with 18 Volt, who looks like anything between a high school student and adult, who's somehow still in elementary school.

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* Some of the characters in the ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' series fall into this. Ashley's the most obvious example (her 'official' age is supposedly around 15 according to the US website, and unstated in Japan), and her design is so vague that it's kind of hard to tell what age the character is outside of 'looks fairly young'. Same deal with 18 Volt, 18-Volt, who looks like anything between a high school student and adult, who's somehow still in elementary school.school, in the same class as the much younger-looking 9-Volt.
22nd Apr '17 1:46:44 AM KYCubbie
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* Boxing great Sonny Liston is another example. He was born to a poor sharecropping family in Arkansas either just before or during the Great Depression, and his birth was not officially recorded.[[note]](The state didn't make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.)[[/note]] Statements by him, his mother, and other family members were often contradictory, supporting dates anywhere from 1927 to 1933. He eventually settled on a 1932 birth date for official purposes, but [[YoungerThanTheyLook an aged appearance]] lent credence to rumors of the earliest dates. The mystery of Liston's birth date will almost certainly go unsolved, but it's now most likely he was born sometime in the summer of 1930. When that year's U.S. Census was publicly released in 2002, Sonny (birth name Charles) wasn't listed. Ten years later, the 1940 Census was released, which listed Charles as a 10-year-old. Lending further support to a 1930 birth date is the recording of Sonny's next-older brother Curtis. When the Liston family was recorded in the 1930 Census that April, Sonny's next-older brother Curtis was listed as between 6 and 12 months old. In April 1940, when census takers visited the Liston farm again, Curtis was listed as 11, although most likely still 10—her mother may well have counted her children's years from birth inclusively.

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* Boxing great Sonny Liston is another example. He was born to a poor sharecropping family in Arkansas either just before or during the Great Depression, and his birth was not officially recorded.[[note]](The state didn't make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.)[[/note]] Statements by him, his mother, and other family members were often contradictory, supporting dates anywhere from 1927 to 1933. He eventually settled on a 1932 birth date for official purposes, but [[YoungerThanTheyLook an aged appearance]] lent credence to rumors of the earliest dates. The mystery of Liston's birth date will almost certainly go unsolved, but it's now most likely he was born sometime in the summer of 1930. When [[labelnote:Evidence]]When that year's U.S. Census was publicly released in 2002, Sonny (birth name Charles) wasn't listed. Ten years later, the 1940 Census was released, which listed Charles as a 10-year-old. Lending further support to a 1930 birth date is the census recording of Sonny's next-older brother Curtis. When the Liston family was recorded in the 1930 Census that April, Sonny's next-older brother Curtis was listed as between 6 and 12 months old. In April 1940, when census takers visited the Liston farm again, Curtis was listed as 11, although most likely still 10—her mother may well have counted her children's years from birth inclusively.[[/labelnote]]
21st Apr '17 8:47:19 PM KYCubbie
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* Boxing great Sonny Liston is another example. He was born to a poor sharecropping family in Arkansas either just before or during the Great Depression, and his birth was not officially recorded.[[note]](The state didn't make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.)[[/note]] Statements by him, his mother, and other family members were often contradictory, supporting dates anywhere from 1927 to 1932. He eventually settled on a 1932 birth date for official purposes, but [[YoungerThanTheyLook an aged appearance]] lent credence to rumors of the earliest dates. The mystery of Liston's birth date will almost certainly go unsolved, but it's now most likely he was born sometime in 1930. When the 1930 U.S. Census was publicly released in 2002, Sonny wasn't listed. Ten years later, the 1940 Census was released, which listed Sonny as a 10-year-old.[[note]]One writer who examined the census records in question noticed that Liston's mother may have counted years from birth inclusively, lending further support to a 1930 birth date.[[/note]]

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* Boxing great Sonny Liston is another example. He was born to a poor sharecropping family in Arkansas either just before or during the Great Depression, and his birth was not officially recorded.[[note]](The state didn't make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.)[[/note]] Statements by him, his mother, and other family members were often contradictory, supporting dates anywhere from 1927 to 1932.1933. He eventually settled on a 1932 birth date for official purposes, but [[YoungerThanTheyLook an aged appearance]] lent credence to rumors of the earliest dates. The mystery of Liston's birth date will almost certainly go unsolved, but it's now most likely he was born sometime in the summer of 1930. When the 1930 that year's U.S. Census was publicly released in 2002, Sonny (birth name Charles) wasn't listed. Ten years later, the 1940 Census was released, which listed Sonny Charles as a 10-year-old.[[note]]One writer who examined the census records in question noticed that Liston's mother may have counted years from birth inclusively, lending 10-year-old. Lending further support to a 1930 birth date.[[/note]] date is the recording of Sonny's next-older brother Curtis. When the Liston family was recorded in the 1930 Census that April, Sonny's next-older brother Curtis was listed as between 6 and 12 months old. In April 1940, when census takers visited the Liston farm again, Curtis was listed as 11, although most likely still 10—her mother may well have counted her children's years from birth inclusively.
21st Apr '17 8:38:30 PM KYCubbie
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* Boxing great Sonny Liston is another example. He was born to a poor sharecropping family in Arkansas either just before or during the Great Depression, and his birth was not officially recorded.[[note]](The state didn't make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.)[[/note]] Statements by him, his mother, and other family members were often contradictory, supporting dates anywhere from 1927 to 1932. He eventually settled on a 1932 birth date for official purposes, but [[YoungerThanTheyLook an aged appearance]] lent credence to rumors of the earliest dates. The mystery of Liston's birth date will almost certainly go unsolved, but it's now most likely he was born sometime in 1930. When the 1930 U.S. Census was publicly released in 2002, Sonny wasn't listed. Ten years later, the 1940 Census was released, which listed Sonny as a 10-year-old.[[note]]One writer who examined the census records in question noticed that Liston's mother may have counted years from birth inclusively, lending further support to a 1930 birth date.[[/note]]
17th Apr '17 4:55:14 PM Derkhan
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* In ''Literature/TheSorcererOfTheWildeeps'', Captain's age is never specified and he gives off conflicting cues depending on the audience. It is unlikely that he's ReallySevenHundredYearsOld, but Demane mentions that Captain's been in the mercenary business for a couple decades already. His looks are very vague, age-wise, and his behaviour is that of a hardened veteran towards the band and that of an occasionally insecure 20-something when alone with Demane.
10th Apr '17 2:11:41 PM TheBigBopper
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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': The ages of the characters--and especially of the three main ones--has been a pestering question among the fandom since the character designs can be deceptive and the sparse information given leaves much to interpretation. Guts' age, at least, can be known at certain points in the story based on the number of years time-skipped since his birth. Unfortunately, although Casca says that she was twelve when Griffith took her in, she does not say how long ago that was and Griffith's exact age is not mentioned at any time. Everyone's guesses vary widely both on specific ages and on seemingly simple questions such as who is older or younger than who. An official guide book released in 2016 included the ages of major characters as of episode 347 (Guts, 24; Griffith, 24; Casca, 24; Serpico, 20; Farnese, 19; Rickert, 19; Isma, 15; Isidro, 14; Schierke, 13), but this raises as many questions as it answers since it sometimes leads to ImprobableAge, goes against a characters' appearance and relationship with other characters, and/or leads to contradictions in the timeline. For example, if you accept that Guts is 24 now, then following the timeskips backward Farnese would have been 14 when she led to Holy Iron Chain Knights to the pool of blood left behind by the Eclipse. Not only did she look older than that, but the dialogue in the later flashback to her childhood establishes that she was 16 when she burned the Vandimion mansion and got banished to a convent, the event which led to her being put in charge of the [=HICKs=] in the first place. That would mean that she was leading them ''two years before she even joined them''. Because of this and other probelms, including speculation that these ages may have been decided by some editor rather than Miura himself, there's a risk that many fans will simply [[FanonDiscontinuity ignore the official ages]] and continue to bicker just as they've always done.

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* ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'': The ages of the characters--and especially of the three main ones--has been a pestering question among the fandom since the character designs can be deceptive and the sparse information given leaves much to interpretation. Guts' age, at least, can be known at certain points in the story based on the number of years time-skipped since his birth. Unfortunately, although Casca says that she was twelve when Griffith took her in, she does not say how long ago that was and Griffith's exact age is not mentioned at any time. Everyone's guesses vary widely both on specific ages and on seemingly simple questions such as who is older or younger than who. An official guide book released in 2016 included the ages of major characters as of episode 347 (Guts, 24; Griffith, 24; Casca, 24; Serpico, 20; Farnese, 19; Rickert, 19; Isma, 15; Isidro, 14; Schierke, 13), but this raises as many questions as it answers since it sometimes leads to ImprobableAge, goes against a characters' appearance and relationship with other characters, and/or leads to contradictions in the timeline. For example, if you accept that Guts is 24 now, then following the timeskips backward Farnese would have been 14 when she led to Holy Iron Chain Knights to the pool of blood left behind by the Eclipse. Not only did she look older than that, that at the time, but the dialogue in the later flashback to her childhood establishes that she was 16 when she burned the Vandimion mansion and got banished to a convent, the event which led to her being put in charge of the [=HICKs=] in the first place. That Logically she would mean that she was leading them ''two years before she even joined them''.have to be at least 21 to Guts' 24 in order for these things to be reconciled. Because of this and other probelms, including speculation that these ages may have been decided by some editor rather than Miura himself, there's a risk that many fans will simply [[FanonDiscontinuity ignore the official ages]] and continue to bicker just as they've always done.
27th Mar '17 5:33:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Cheerilee was a teen in TheEighties which suggests she is around the same age as Shining Armor (who is presumably in his late twenties or early thirties). Cheerilee however was a filly at the same age Pinkie Pie was. Despite Pinkie's appearances, she's not implied to be much older than the other Mane 6 (as mentioned, probably in her early to mid twenties).

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** Cheerilee was a teen in TheEighties which suggests she is around the same age as Shining Armor (who is presumably in his late twenties or early thirties). Cheerilee however was a filly at the same age Rarity and Pinkie Pie was. were. Despite Pinkie's Pinkie and Rarity's appearances, she's they're not implied to be much older than the other Mane 6 (as mentioned, probably in her early to mid twenties).
27th Mar '17 9:16:27 AM Rorosilky5
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* Franchise/{{Kirby}} was described in the [[AllThereInTheManual Manual]] of ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamland'' to be a "little boy" but gave no age, and his age in games since then hasn't really been touched upon.

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* Franchise/{{Kirby}} was described in the [[AllThereInTheManual Manual]] manual]] of ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamland'' ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand'' to be a "little boy" but gave no age, and his age in games since then hasn't really been touched upon.
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