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2nd May '16 1:31:25 PM Willbyr
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2nd May '16 1:31:00 PM Willbyr
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[[caption-width-right:300:Ciel Phantomhive, [[CheerfulChild from a child...]]]]
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[[caption-width-right:300:...to the reason to fear [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast the name "Phantomhive".]]]]

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* Lucy from ''Manga/ElfenLied'', who started out as a [[ShrinkingViolet kind-hearted but shy]] little girl, but through enough [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer tor]][[KidsAreCruel ment]], [[DarkMagicalGirl crippling loneliness]], and a psychotic inner voice became an AxCrazy mass murderer bent on [[KillAllHumans killing all humans]].

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* Lucy from ''Manga/ElfenLied'', who started out as a [[ShrinkingViolet kind-hearted but shy]] little girl, but through enough [[KidsAreCruel torment]], [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer tor]][[KidsAreCruel ment]], [[DarkMagicalGirl crippling loneliness]], and [[DarkMagicalGirl a psychotic inner voice voice]] became an AxCrazy mass murderer bent on [[KillAllHumans killing all humans]].



* Most of the [[ProjectARMS Egrigori]] experimental children were like this, before whatever processes they were put through were completed. The Keiths mostly became bloodthirsty psychopaths who had no problem killing anyone they had to and [[spoiler:Alice developed a dark side to her previously sweet personality after being shot and taken over by an AI]]. The fact that the kids were treated terribly and given almost no positive human contact could explain a lot ([[spoiler:Keith Green genuinely grew to love Katsumi because she was the first person who was nice to him.]])

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* Most of the [[ProjectARMS [[Manga/ProjectARMS Egrigori]] experimental children were like this, before whatever processes they were put through were completed. The Keiths mostly became bloodthirsty psychopaths who had no problem killing anyone they had to and [[spoiler:Alice developed a dark side to her previously sweet personality after being shot and taken over by an AI]]. The fact that the kids were treated terribly and given almost no positive human contact could explain a lot ([[spoiler:Keith Green genuinely grew to love Katsumi because she was the first person who was nice to him.]])



** This is a prominent theme in Code Geass, while some characters like Rolo are proven to always have been killing machines since childhood (and often, like in Rolo's case, thanks to the brutal training and brainwashing coming from the [[spoiler:Geass Cult]]), loads of characters started out like sweet kids even up to the Emperor but also including, C.C., Suzaku, possibly Cornelia and Clovis, Karen and Lelouch Lamperouge.

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** This is a prominent theme in Code Geass, ''Code Geass'', while some characters like Rolo are proven to always have been killing machines since childhood (and often, like in Rolo's case, thanks to the brutal training and brainwashing coming from the [[spoiler:Geass Cult]]), loads of characters started out like sweet kids even up to the Emperor but also including, C.C., Suzaku, possibly Cornelia and Clovis, Karen and Lelouch Lamperouge.



* Miharu Rokujou from ''NabariNoOu''.

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* Miharu Rokujou from ''NabariNoOu''.''Manga/NabariNoOu''.
2nd May '16 3:12:52 AM rafi
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** Subverted later on in the manga when Alessi uses his stand to de-age Jotaro to about seven years, and Jotaro was ''still'' capable of pounding Alessi pretty seriously, and ''still'' had his not-accepting-any-nonsense mentality which, given the way Alessi's stand works (its victims don't remember anything from the years they lose), Jotaro must have had even then.

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** *** Subverted later on in the manga when Alessi uses his stand to de-age Jotaro to about seven years, and Jotaro was ''still'' capable of pounding Alessi pretty seriously, and ''still'' had his not-accepting-any-nonsense mentality which, given the way Alessi's stand works (its victims don't remember anything from the years they lose), Jotaro must have had even then.
2nd May '16 2:16:02 AM eroock
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3050 an appeal on the grounds she wasn't always a devil girl.]] [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4037 Neither was Lil' Evil always evil]]

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140209190506/http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=3050 an appeal on the grounds she wasn't always a devil girl.]] [[http://www.sinfest.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140209190506/http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4037 Neither was Lil' Evil always evil]]evil]].
1st May '16 3:48:37 AM Morgenthaler
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** Pictured above: Ciel Phantomhive. He's a cynical, callous, and very driven 12-year-old (or 13, depending on how far you are in the series), is a ChessMaster and [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Wise Beyond His Years]]. He has no qualms about getting involved in dangerous missions and will command his {{badass}} butler Sebastian to kill someone without a second thought. He has also been shown slapping and insulting individuals for being too comfortable with touching or speaking to him. The only individual he appears to genuinely care for is his fiancee, Elizabeth Middleford, although he does seem to view her as a bit of a distraction and a nuisance, at times. In the anime, he appears downright cruel at times, although in the manga, he is simply just icy and elitist. It's eventually revealed that he was a happy, loving, carefree child before his tenth birthday. Then his parents were murdered, the mansion set on fire, and he was kidnapped. He was locked in a cage with other children his age and eventually was to be a child sacrifice until he accidentally called upon the demon Sebastian in his desperation to live.

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** Pictured above: Ciel Phantomhive. He's a cynical, callous, and very driven 12-year-old (or 13, depending on how far you are in the series), is a ChessMaster and [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Wise Beyond His Years]]. He has no qualms about getting involved in dangerous missions and will command his {{badass}} butler Sebastian to kill someone without a second thought. He has also been shown slapping and insulting individuals for being too comfortable with touching or speaking to him. The only individual he appears to genuinely care for is his fiancee, Elizabeth Middleford, although he does seem to view her as a bit of a distraction and a nuisance, at times. In the anime, he appears downright cruel at times, although in the manga, he is simply just icy and elitist. It's eventually revealed that he was a happy, loving, carefree child before his tenth birthday. Then his parents were murdered, the mansion set on fire, and he was kidnapped. He was locked in a cage with other children his age and eventually was to be a child sacrifice until he accidentally called upon the demon Sebastian in his desperation to live.
17th Apr '16 5:44:09 AM ading
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* The Salamanca twins from ''Series/BreakingBad'' were seen in a flashback to be normal, energetic kids who cared for eachother. They of course grew up to be emotionless killing machines for the cartel.
* In ''{{Series/Popular}}'' Emory Dick notes his twin sisters Emily and Emma used to be nice, but after puberty they became burgeoning {{Alpha Bitch}}es. They show up in the episode wearing [[AgeInappropriateDress tight tops and skirts really short for their age]], and ask Nichole and Mary Cherry to train them on how to be the top girls in the junior high. They later even turn on Nicky and Mary, wearing dresses and [[PrettyInMink furs]] at a party [[DressesTheSame the same as what Nichole and Mary are wearing]].

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* The Salamanca twins from ''Series/BreakingBad'' were seen in a flashback to be normal, energetic kids who cared for eachother. They of course grew up to be emotionless killing machines for the cartel.
* In ''{{Series/Popular}}'' ''Series/{{Popular}}'' Emory Dick notes his twin sisters Emily and Emma used to be nice, but after puberty they became burgeoning {{Alpha Bitch}}es. They show up in the episode wearing [[AgeInappropriateDress tight tops and skirts really short for their age]], and ask Nichole and Mary Cherry to train them on how to be the top girls in the junior high. They later even turn on Nicky and Mary, wearing dresses and [[PrettyInMink furs]] at a party [[DressesTheSame the same as what Nichole and Mary are wearing]].wearing]].
* Notably averted on ''Series/{{Dexter}}''. Dexter is shown to have [[KickTheDog killed his neighbour's dog because it barked too loud]] as a child, and even at that time Harry seemed aware that Dexter was a psychopath.
13th Apr '16 3:42:08 AM CaptainSilver
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* [[spoiler:Reinhard von Lohengramm]] invokes and subverts this from LegendoftheGalacticHeroes. Flashbacks show that as a child he was perfectly-content to live an ordinary life with his elder sister and best friend. [[spoiler:And then said elder sister is forced to become a member of Emperor Frederick IV's harem]] leading [[spoiler:Reinhard]] to grow obsessed with obtaining the power to save his sister and become Emperor himself to gain revenge against the Goldenbaum Dynasty and their supporters. He succeeds and actually institutes proto-constitutional reforms in the empire making it a better place to live for its people compared to the [[TheAlliance Free Planets Alliance]], but in the course of doing so he makes Machiavellian decisions such as but not limited to: turning a blind eye to rebel nobles launching a strategic nuclear attack on a frontier planet and killing four million people, as well as executing rebel nobles and their male relatives aged 10 and above before exiling their remaining relatives to the frontier. However his reforms '''DO''' subvert the trope to an extent, as while he is certainly feared by his enemies, he is respected and even ''devoted'' by the majority of his subjects, and it's implied that his new dynasty would preside over a new golden age for Humanity.

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* [[spoiler:Reinhard von Lohengramm]] invokes and subverts this from LegendoftheGalacticHeroes.LegendofGalacticHeroes. Flashbacks show that as a child he was perfectly-content to live an ordinary life with his elder sister and best friend. [[spoiler:And then said elder sister is forced to become a member of Emperor Frederick IV's harem]] leading [[spoiler:Reinhard]] to grow obsessed with obtaining the power to save his sister and become Emperor himself to gain revenge against the Goldenbaum Dynasty and their supporters. He succeeds and actually institutes proto-constitutional reforms in the empire making it a better place to live for its people compared to the [[TheAlliance Free Planets Alliance]], but in the course of doing so he makes Machiavellian decisions such as but not limited to: turning a blind eye to rebel nobles launching a strategic nuclear attack on a frontier planet and killing four million people, as well as executing rebel nobles and their male relatives aged 10 and above before exiling their remaining relatives to the frontier. However his reforms '''DO''' subvert the trope to an extent, as while he is certainly feared by his enemies, he is respected and even ''devoted'' by the majority of his subjects, and it's implied that his new dynasty would preside over a new golden age for Humanity.
13th Apr '16 3:40:05 AM CaptainSilver
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*[[spoiler:Reinhard von Lohengramm]] invokes and subverts this from LegendoftheGalacticHeroes. Flashbacks show that as a child he was perfectly-content to live an ordinary life with his elder sister and best friend. [[spoiler:And then said elder sister is forced to become a member of Emperor Frederick IV's harem]] leading [[spoiler:Reinhard]] to grow obsessed with obtaining the power to save his sister and become Emperor himself to gain revenge against the Goldenbaum Dynasty and their supporters. He succeeds and actually institutes proto-constitutional reforms in the empire making it a better place to live for its people compared to the [[TheAlliance Free Planets Alliance]], but in the course of doing so he makes Machiavellian decisions such as but not limited to: turning a blind eye to rebel nobles launching a strategic nuclear attack on a frontier planet and killing four million people, as well as executing rebel nobles and their male relatives aged 10 and above before exiling their remaining relatives to the frontier. However his reforms '''DO''' subvert the trope to an extent, as while he is certainly feared by his enemies, he is respected and even ''devoted'' by the majority of his subjects, and it's implied that his new dynasty would preside over a new golden age for Humanity.
6th Apr '16 8:19:10 AM Dravencour
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** Pictured above: Ciel Phantomhive. He's a cynical, callous, and very driven 12-year-old (or 13, depending on how far you are in the series), is a ChessMaster and [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Wise Beyond His Years]]. He has no qualms about getting involved in dangerous missions and will command his {{badass}} butler Sebastian to kill someone without a second thought. He has also been shown slapping and insulting individuals for being too comfortable with touching or speaking to him. The only individual he appears to genuinely care for is his fiance, Elizabeth Middleford, although he does seem to view her as a bit of a distraction and a nuisance, at times. In the anime, he appears downright cruel at times, although in the manga, he is simply just icy and elitist. It's eventually revealed that he was a happy, loving, carefree child before his tenth birthday. Then his parents were murdered, the mansion set on fire, and he was kidnapped. He was locked in a cage with other children his age and eventually was to be a child sacrifice until he accidentally called upon a demon in his desperation to live.

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** Pictured above: Ciel Phantomhive. He's a cynical, callous, and very driven 12-year-old (or 13, depending on how far you are in the series), is a ChessMaster and [[WiseBeyondTheirYears Wise Beyond His Years]]. He has no qualms about getting involved in dangerous missions and will command his {{badass}} butler Sebastian to kill someone without a second thought. He has also been shown slapping and insulting individuals for being too comfortable with touching or speaking to him. The only individual he appears to genuinely care for is his fiance, fiancee, Elizabeth Middleford, although he does seem to view her as a bit of a distraction and a nuisance, at times. In the anime, he appears downright cruel at times, although in the manga, he is simply just icy and elitist. It's eventually revealed that he was a happy, loving, carefree child before his tenth birthday. Then his parents were murdered, the mansion set on fire, and he was kidnapped. He was locked in a cage with other children his age and eventually was to be a child sacrifice until he accidentally called upon a the demon Sebastian in his desperation to live.
3rd Apr '16 6:22:40 PM bobwolf
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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': Nick Wilde used to be an earnest kid hoping to join the Cub Scouts but [[spoiler: being muzzled by his fellow scouts for being a fox]] convinced him to never show weakness and to [[ThenLetMeBeEvil embrace the stereotype]] of foxes as [[CunningLikeAFox scheming conman]].
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