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5th Jul '16 6:21:01 AM ChronoLegion
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* The Traveler ships from ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' are jury-rigged to hell, the result of having to keep them going for decades on anything that comes to hand. They're still pretty badass though, given that just one of these manages to beat 3 rogue Asgard ships and then save the ''Daedalus''.

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* The Traveler ships from ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' are jury-rigged to hell, the result of having to keep them going for decades on anything that comes to hand. They're still pretty badass though, given that just one of these manages to beat 3 rogue Asgard ships and then save the ''Daedalus''. That said, Vanir (the Pegasus Asgard) ships themselves are a far cry from the shiny and sleek ship built by the Ida Asgard. Justified due to their far more limited resources and the fact that their original ships (the ones they used to come to Pegasus) were all destroyed by the Wraith.
25th Jun '16 11:23:07 AM nombretomado
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* ''AHDotComTheSeries'', thanks to the ship being a battered old ex-battleship kept running by a fraction of its proper crew.

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* ''AHDotComTheSeries'', ''Script/AHDotComTheSeries'', thanks to the ship being a battered old ex-battleship kept running by a fraction of its proper crew.
23rd Jun '16 8:36:08 PM nombretomado
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* OlderThanRadio: Creator/HGWells' ''TheTimeMachine''. When the Time Traveller visits the distant future, everything is older than the dust that covers it and the inhabitants make use of the technology only out of habit or instinct.

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* OlderThanRadio: Creator/HGWells' ''TheTimeMachine''.''Literature/TheTimeMachine''. When the Time Traveller visits the distant future, everything is older than the dust that covers it and the inhabitants make use of the technology only out of habit or instinct.
7th Jun '16 2:35:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* Asimov's ''{{Foundation}}'' series. After the fall of the Galactic Empire, various factions use the remnants of the technology to live as best they can. This ranges from wealthy technicians maintaining machines they can no longer understand to agrarian societies who mine the vast abandoned cities for ready-made steel.

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* Asimov's ''{{Foundation}}'' ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series. After the fall of the Galactic Empire, various factions use the remnants of the technology to live as best they can. This ranges from wealthy technicians maintaining machines they can no longer understand to agrarian societies who mine the vast abandoned cities for ready-made steel.



* In MichaelFlynn's ''[[Literature/SpiralArm The January Dancer]]'', the ''New Angeles'' finds the artifact because it broke down and they had to mine on an uninhabited planet just to repair it.

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* In MichaelFlynn's Creator/MichaelFlynn's ''[[Literature/SpiralArm The January Dancer]]'', the ''New Angeles'' finds the artifact because it broke down and they had to mine on an uninhabited planet just to repair it.
21st Apr '16 1:48:00 PM erforce
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* Every future sequence in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise, with ''Salvation'' being an entire movie of this. Of course, it helps that the future the movies feature is [[AfterTheEnd set after a major nuclear holocaust]].

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* Every future sequence in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise, with ''Salvation'' ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' being an entire movie of this. Of course, it helps that the future the movies feature is [[AfterTheEnd set after a major nuclear holocaust]].
14th Apr '16 3:18:40 PM GoblinCipher
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** It should be noted that while Imperial ships are newer, and their capital ships have more powerful weapons than those available to the Rebels, the Imperial design is extremely utilitarian. Particularly in their fighters and strike craft. While most Rebel fighters are equipped with some form of bomb or torpedo, shield-generators, and hyperdrives to make them durable, versatile, and self-sufficient. Empire's TIE models have none of these, as pilots are expendable as far as the Empire is concerned and it was cheaper to just quickly restock the losses than design something with more survivability.

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** It should be noted that while Imperial ships are newer, and their capital ships have more powerful weapons than those available to the Rebels, the Imperial design is extremely utilitarian. Particularly in their fighters and strike craft. While most Rebel fighters are equipped with some form of bomb or torpedo, shield-generators, and hyperdrives to make them durable, versatile, and self-sufficient. Empire's TIE models have none of these, as [[WeHaveReserves pilots are expendable expendable]] as far as the Empire is concerned and it was cheaper to just quickly restock the losses than design something with more survivability.
15th Mar '16 2:03:42 AM Diask
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Shows on the other end of the SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty treat the future as a place where real people live, and where spaceships look dirty, dingy, and used, like heavy equipment that one might find at a lonely truck stop in the middle of the night right now. The ships are old junk heaps run on a shoestring by hard-bitten characters on the edge, seemingly held together with two pieces of string, chewing gum, and the will of God -- the SF equivalent of the struggling FilmNoir private eye, in other words. This is the Used Future, and it's home to {{Space Trucker}}s, renegades, regular working stiffs, and anyone on the "cynical" end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. Think of it as DieselPunk [[AC:InSpace!]]

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Shows on the other end of the SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty treat the future as a place where real people live, blue-collar workers make a living doing unglamorous jobs and where spaceships look dirty, dingy, and used, like heavy equipment that one might find at a lonely truck stop in the middle of the night right now. The ships are old junk heaps run on a shoestring by hard-bitten characters on the edge, seemingly held together with two pieces of string, chewing gum, and the will of God -- the SF equivalent of the struggling FilmNoir private eye, in other words. This is the Used Future, and it's home to {{Space Trucker}}s, renegades, regular working stiffs, and anyone on the "cynical" end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. Think of it as DieselPunk [[AC:InSpace!]]



Usually more of a [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Hard Science Fiction]] trope.

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Usually more found on the hard end of a [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness Hard Science Fiction]] trope.MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness.



* {{Vandread}} mostly has ShinyLookingSpaceships, but a notable example of this trope occurs when the crew visits a space station filled with refugees from the Harvest.

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* {{Vandread}} ''Anime/{{Vandread}}'' mostly has ShinyLookingSpaceships, but a notable example of this trope occurs when the crew visits a space station filled with refugees from the Harvest.



* Graphic novel example: anything drawn by Jean Girard, aka Creator/{{Moebius}}, will usually incorporate elements of both Used Future and ShinyLookingSpaceships.

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* Graphic novel example: anything Anything drawn by Jean Girard, aka Creator/{{Moebius}}, will usually incorporate elements of both Used Future and ShinyLookingSpaceships.



* ''BookOfTheNewSun'' [[WordOfGod describes the future where humanity just sits at home and waits for the money to run out.]] The central character grows up in the hulk of a former starship which still has a couple of operating devices, if you can round up enough apprentices to hand-crank them. Miners dig up old machines rather than raw materials, which were exhausted a long time ago (indeed one of their measures of time, the "age," starts when one resource is exhausted and ends when the next runs out.) The very rich have access to advanced technology, which they appear to get by trading slaves to aliens.

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* ''BookOfTheNewSun'' [[WordOfGod describes ''Literature/BookOfTheNewSun'' "describes the future where humanity just sits at home and waits for the money to run out.]] out" [[WordOfGod according to]] Creator/GeneWolfe. The central character grows up in the hulk of a former starship which still has a couple of operating devices, if you can round up enough apprentices to hand-crank them. Miners dig up old machines rather than raw materials, which were exhausted a long time ago (indeed one of their measures of time, the "age," starts when one resource is exhausted and ends when the next runs out.) The very rich have access to advanced technology, which they appear to get by trading slaves to aliens.



* One of the novelisations of the original ''Franchise/BattlestarGalactica'' series mentions that the titular vessel has been in service for ''500 years!'' The small observation dome on top, where courting couples go to gaze at the stars, was originally used to take navigational fixes.

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* One of the novelisations of the original ''Franchise/BattlestarGalactica'' ''Series/BattlestarGalactica1978'' series mentions that the titular eponymous vessel has been in service for ''500 years!'' The small observation dome on top, where courting couples go to gaze at the stars, was originally used to take navigational fixes.



* ''[[Literature/TheExpanse The Expanse]]'' matches this trope exactly. Much of the solar system has been settled, and colonists in the asteroid belt are the furthest from Earth and the poorest around, surviving mainly off of ice found in the Belt and processed fungi. Many make their livings as [[SpaceTrucker space truckers]] in blocky, beat-up "ice haulers." Military ships are often blocky on the outside as well, but their interiors are usually shiny as hell.

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* ''[[Literature/TheExpanse The Expanse]]'' ''Literature/TheExpanse'' matches this trope exactly. Much of the solar system Solar System has been settled, and colonists in the asteroid belt are the furthest from Earth and the poorest around, surviving mainly off of ice found in the Belt and processed fungi. Many make their livings as [[SpaceTrucker space truckers]] {{space trucker}}s in blocky, beat-up "ice haulers." Military ships are often blocky on the outside as well, but their interiors are usually shiny as hell.



** Even Lampshaded in the episode "Heart of Gold", where the rich guy who runs the world is deliberately keeping the world rustic so he can "play cowboy."

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** Even Lampshaded in In the episode "Heart of Gold", where the rich guy who runs the world is deliberately keeping the world rustic so he can "play cowboy."



* The Ark in ''The100'' has an air of this having been cobbled together from a dozen disparate space stations nearly a hundred years previous to the series opening. The ship they send down to Earth literally starts falling apart during entry.

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* The Ark in ''The100'' ''Series/The100'' has an air of this having been cobbled together from a dozen disparate space stations nearly a hundred years previous to the series opening. The ship they send down to Earth literally starts falling apart during entry.



** All the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orks]]' technology looks like scrapyard metal haphazardly bolted and welded together, but that's what it looked like ''new''.

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** All the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orks]]' {{O|urOrcsAreDifferent}}rks' technology looks like scrapyard metal haphazardly bolted and welded together, but that's what it looked like ''new''.



* The ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' games makes use of this. This is especially noticeable in Doom 3's 'mars city' The well maintained sections look pretty rough, the seldom used sections are dilapidated, then the forces of hell turn up...
* ''EveOnline'' the MMORPG features the Minmatar Republic, a race of former slaves whose ships are often mocked for being "Flying Junkyards", and the Minmatar pilots often iterate their sacred adage "In Rust We Trust". The trope is avoided in the game by ships belonging to the other factions, most notably and appropriately those of the Amarr Empire, the Minmatar's former enslavers, whose ships are covered in [[ShinyLookingSpaceships pristine gold plating]].
* ''{{Freelancer}}'' has this in spades. The lawful factions mostly have ShinyLookingSpaceships (with the exception of Bretonia, whose ships are dingy brown and ugly as sin), while the pirates have to get around in filthy junk heaps. The starter ship, the Starflier, is a heap of rubbish whose one advantage is its manoeuvrability, bases are often simply carved out of asteroids, most of the bars on space stations look like dingy, seedy dives, and the Leeds system is so filthy and polluted that it has smog clouds. Smog clouds ''in space.''

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' games makes use of this. This is especially noticeable in Doom 3's 'mars 'Mars city' The well maintained sections look pretty rough, the seldom used sections are dilapidated, then the forces of hell turn up...
* ''EveOnline'' ''VideoGame/EveOnline'' the MMORPG features the Minmatar Republic, a race of former slaves whose ships are often mocked for being "Flying Junkyards", and the Minmatar pilots often iterate their sacred adage "In Rust We Trust". The trope is avoided in the game by ships belonging to the other factions, most notably and appropriately those of the Amarr Empire, the Minmatar's former enslavers, whose ships are covered in [[ShinyLookingSpaceships pristine gold plating]].
* ''{{Freelancer}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Freelancer}}'' has this in spades. The lawful factions mostly have ShinyLookingSpaceships (with the exception of Bretonia, whose ships are dingy brown and ugly as sin), while the pirates have to get around in filthy junk heaps. The starter ship, the Starflier, is a heap of rubbish whose one advantage is its manoeuvrability, bases are often simply carved out of asteroids, most of the bars on space stations look like dingy, seedy dives, and the Leeds system is so filthy and polluted that it has smog clouds. Smog clouds ''in space.''



* ''GearsOfWar'' pretty much runs rampant with this, especially the "used" part. Anywhere outside of Jacinto, and even a lot of places inside of it, are battered, damaged, run-down, and barely functional.

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* ''GearsOfWar'' ''VideoGame/GearsOfWar'' pretty much runs rampant with this, especially the "used" part. Anywhere outside of Jacinto, and even a lot of places inside of it, are battered, damaged, run-down, and barely functional.



* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' features Pyrite Town, a dirty, patchwork city full of thugs that uses banged up versions of the technology found in the game.
* ''SinsOfASolarEmpire'' makes some use of this trope for many of the TEC's craft, understandable given that the bulk of them are repurposed civilian vessels. They by and large go for the utilitarian look, but aren't all wrecked up. They do feel a lot like this trope compared to the Vasari, or especially the Advent, where ''everything'' is shiny, ironic because they're the rebel-like faction.

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* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' features Pyrite Town, a dirty, patchwork city full of thugs that uses banged up versions of the technology found in the game.
* ''SinsOfASolarEmpire'' ''VideoGame/SinsOfASolarEmpire'' makes some use of this trope for many of the TEC's craft, understandable given that the bulk of them are repurposed civilian vessels. They by and large go for the utilitarian look, but aren't all wrecked up. They do feel a lot like this trope compared to the Vasari, or especially the Advent, where ''everything'' is shiny, ironic because they're the rebel-like faction.



* ''{{Metroid}}'' loves this. Most of the games consists of tracking through [[SceneryGorn partially ruined]] technology of all kinds of aesthetics, with rusty crashed spaceships and half-ruined bases mixed with wilderness. Then again, the technology levels range from OrganicTechnology to {{Magitek}}.

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* ''{{Metroid}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'' loves this. Most of the games consists of tracking through [[SceneryGorn partially ruined]] technology of all kinds of aesthetics, with rusty crashed spaceships and half-ruined bases mixed with wilderness. Then again, the technology levels range from OrganicTechnology to {{Magitek}}.
19th Jan '16 3:45:50 AM XV-02
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*** In lieu of that second failure, earlier Shuttle flights were looked at again and reassessed for risk. It was estimated that early flights should have failed about 1 in 10 times, and the likelihood of staving off failure until Challenger was just 6%!
6th Jan '16 3:16:29 PM LTR
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** It should be noted that while Imperial ships are newer, and their capital ships have more powerful weapons than those available to the Rebels, the Imperial design is extremely utilitarian. While most Rebel fighters are equipped with some form of bomb or torpedo, shield-generators, and hyperdrives to make them durable, versatile, and self-sufficient, the most common of the Empire's TIE models have none of these, as pilots are expendable for the Empire and it was cheaper to make ships without them.

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** It should be noted that while Imperial ships are newer, and their capital ships have more powerful weapons than those available to the Rebels, the Imperial design is extremely utilitarian. Particularly in their fighters and strike craft. While most Rebel fighters are equipped with some form of bomb or torpedo, shield-generators, and hyperdrives to make them durable, versatile, and self-sufficient, the most common of the self-sufficient. Empire's TIE models have none of these, as pilots are expendable for as far as the Empire is concerned and it was cheaper to make ships without them.just quickly restock the losses than design something with more survivability.
5th Jan '16 1:44:28 AM SSJMagus
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** A notable exception to the Rebels' rule of cast-off fighters is the X-wing; the fighter's company Incom originally designed it for the Empire as a state-of-the-art fighter, but the ''entire design team'' defected to the Rebel Alliance, and brought the X-wing along with them. As a result, the X-wing is used almost exclusively by the Rebels. While it isn't the most modern fighter on the block, it's still more than enough to go up against the Empire's [=TIEs=].



* A notable exception to the Rebels' rule of cast-off fighters is the X-wing; the fighter's company Incom originally designed it for the Empire as a state-of-the-art fighter, but the ''entire design team'' defected to the alliance, and brought the X-wing along with them. As a result, the X-wing is used almost exclusively by the Rebels. While it isn't the most modern fighter on the block, it's still more than enough to go up against the Empire's [=TIEs=].
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