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29th Mar '18 9:24:32 PM poi99
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A recurring phenomenon in this trope, especially if the creator is British or American, is that [[UsefulNotes/WithEuropeButNotOfIt Britain]] will somehow not be part of a United Europe.[[note]]A JustifiedTrope as of the vote by the UK electorate to leave the EU on 23 June 2016. Prior to then, although Britain was considered the most Eurosceptic country, the political and business elites strongly supported continued EU membership and have always been willing to go along with EU integration - albeit usually with opt-outs from certain measures.[[/note]] [[FridgeLogic Oddly enough]], the very independent and politically neutral UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, as well as UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} (neither of which are even in the EU) rarely get the same treatment. It should come as no surprise therefore that this trope varies depending on who's making the work in question. Another recurring phenomenon is that the capital of the United Europe rarely stays as Brussels, usually moving to Paris or Berlin, probably because audiences can easily recognize these landmark-heavy locations over the less-visited Brussels.

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A recurring phenomenon in this trope, especially if the creator is British or American, is that [[UsefulNotes/WithEuropeButNotOfIt Britain]] will somehow not be part of a United Europe.[[note]]A JustifiedTrope [[note]]Which is a lot more plausible as of the vote by the UK electorate to leave the EU on 23 June 2016. Prior to then, although Britain was considered the most Eurosceptic country, the political and business elites strongly supported continued EU membership and have always been willing to go along with EU integration - albeit usually with opt-outs from certain measures.[[/note]] [[FridgeLogic Oddly enough]], the very independent and politically neutral UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, as well as UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} (neither of which are even in the EU) rarely get the same treatment. It should come as no surprise therefore that this trope varies depending on who's making the work in question. Another recurring phenomenon is that the capital of the United Europe rarely stays as Brussels, usually moving to Paris or Berlin, probably because audiences can easily recognize these landmark-heavy locations over the less-visited Brussels.
27th Feb '18 10:10:33 AM ElSquibbonator
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The dream of a United Europe was very real in [[TheFifties the 1950s]] after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII -- the idea of the mainland throwing off prejudice and becoming one massive Happyland. There is also presumably a connection being drawn by some people with the rise of the USSR and USA -- to them, it 'makes sense' that there should be a United States of Europe to join it. Today, that [[TheFifties 1950s]] dream is more widespread than it has ever been, but, naturally, blocks still remain - like the fact that Europeans have been kicking the hell out of each other for 2500 years and have only really considered stopping since 1945. Looking back through history, it's hard to find a period of more than a couple of years in a row in the last millennium when there wasn't a war in Europe, with the likes of England vs Scotland, England vs Ireland, England vs France, England vs Spain, Spain vs the Netherlands, Spain vs France, Denmark vs Sweden, Poland vs Germany, Poland vs Russia, Russia vs Germany, Germany vs Germany, and the usual internecine Balkan strife, rolling around with such regularity that they practically qualify as annual derbies. More recent editions include Everyone vs Germany and Everyone vs Russia.

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The dream of a United Europe was very real in [[TheFifties the 1950s]] after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII -- the idea of the mainland throwing off prejudice and becoming one massive Happyland.super-country. There is also presumably a connection being drawn by some people with the rise of the USSR and USA -- to them, it 'makes sense' that there should be a United States of Europe to join it. Today, that [[TheFifties 1950s]] dream is more widespread than it has ever been, but, naturally, blocks still remain - like the fact that Europeans have been kicking the hell out of each other for 2500 years and have only really considered stopping since 1945. Looking back through history, it's hard to find a period of more than a couple of years in a row in the last millennium when there wasn't a war in Europe, with the likes of England vs Scotland, England vs Ireland, England vs France, England vs Spain, Spain vs the Netherlands, Spain vs France, Denmark vs Sweden, Poland vs Germany, Poland vs Russia, Russia vs Germany, Germany vs Germany, and the usual internecine Balkan strife, rolling around with such regularity that they practically qualify as annual derbies. More recent editions include Everyone vs Germany and Everyone vs Russia.
26th Dec '17 5:03:54 PM Brainbin
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In RealLife, the UsefulNotes/EuropeanUnion is a free-trade area that has gradually evolved to include 'common policy' in areas such as agriculture, standards, border controls, etc etc etc, and has many characteristics of [[TheFederation a federation]], like a common currency throughout most member states,[[note]]Great Britain and most of Scandinavia are in the EU but not the Eurozone[[/note]] an elected parliament, a motto [[note]]("United in diversity")[[/note]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_of_Europe an anthem]] and a court of justice (while technically, it remains at best a confederation due to states remaining independent). While some have called it a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation#Alleged_de_facto_federations de facto federation]], it is still a long way off being one country, and there is still a great amount of debate about the subject between people who are opposed to expanding the European Union's power and those who are in favour of political unification. Likewise, there is debate on exactly ''how'' the EU is supposed to be run, considering how its structure is unlike that of the USA.

A recurring phenomenon in this trope, especially if the creator is British or American, is that [[UsefulNotes/WithEuropeButNotOfIt Britain]] will somehow not be part of a United Europe (which, as of 23 June 2016, might actually be [[JustifiedTrope the more realistic scenario]]). [[FridgeLogic Oddly enough]], the very independent and politically neutral UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, as well as UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} (neither of which are even in the EU) rarely get the same treatment. It should come as no surprise therefore that this trope varies depending on who's making the work in question. Another recurring phenomenon is that the capital of the United Europe rarely stays as Brussels, usually moving to Paris or Berlin, probably because audiences can easily recognize these landmark-heavy locations over the less-visited Brussels.

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In RealLife, the UsefulNotes/EuropeanUnion is a free-trade area that has gradually evolved to include 'common policy' in areas such as agriculture, standards, border controls, etc etc etc, and has many characteristics of [[TheFederation a federation]], like a common currency throughout most member states,[[note]]Great Britain and most of Scandinavia are in the EU but not the Eurozone[[/note]] an elected parliament, a motto [[note]]("United in diversity")[[/note]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_of_Europe an anthem]] and a court of justice (while technically, it remains at best a confederation due to states remaining independent). While some have called it a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation#Alleged_de_facto_federations de facto federation]], it is still a long way off being one country, and there is still a great amount of debate about the subject between people who are opposed to expanding the European Union's power - or even want to see it rolled back in certain areas (called Eurosceptics) and those who are in favour of further political unification.integration (called Eurofederalists). Likewise, there is debate on exactly ''how'' the EU is supposed to be run, considering how its structure is unlike that of the USA.

A recurring phenomenon in this trope, especially if the creator is British or American, is that [[UsefulNotes/WithEuropeButNotOfIt Britain]] will somehow not be part of a United Europe (which, Europe.[[note]]A JustifiedTrope as of the vote by the UK electorate to leave the EU on 23 June 2016, might actually be [[JustifiedTrope 2016. Prior to then, although Britain was considered the more realistic scenario]]). most Eurosceptic country, the political and business elites strongly supported continued EU membership and have always been willing to go along with EU integration - albeit usually with opt-outs from certain measures.[[/note]] [[FridgeLogic Oddly enough]], the very independent and politically neutral UsefulNotes/{{Switzerland}}, as well as UsefulNotes/{{Norway}} (neither of which are even in the EU) rarely get the same treatment. It should come as no surprise therefore that this trope varies depending on who's making the work in question. Another recurring phenomenon is that the capital of the United Europe rarely stays as Brussels, usually moving to Paris or Berlin, probably because audiences can easily recognize these landmark-heavy locations over the less-visited Brussels.
22nd Sep '17 12:24:18 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[VideoGame/{{Hearts of Iron 2}} Hearts of Iron 2]]'' mod modern day scenario has an event where the EU unites to one country as well... it also becomes a hyperpower the moment that happens since you get way more production/resources/manpower/research than anyone else...

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* ''[[VideoGame/{{Hearts of Iron 2}} Hearts of Iron 2]]'' ''VideoGame/HeartsOfIronII'' mod modern day scenario has an event where the EU unites to one country as well... it also becomes a hyperpower the moment that happens since you get way more production/resources/manpower/research than anyone else...
22nd Sep '17 12:19:03 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Europe is usually said to have two different Mega Cities: Brit Cit and Euro Cit.[[note]]Ireland could also be counted as a separate entity, but that's a whole 'nother story: [[TheThemeParkVersion it's literally a giant theme park]].[[/note]] So, the Britons are still independent, but the rest of the continent is implied to be unified in one polity.

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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Europe is usually said to have two different Mega Cities: Brit Cit and Euro Cit.[[note]]Ireland could also be counted as a separate entity, but that's a whole 'nother story: [[TheThemeParkVersion it's literally a giant theme park]].[[/note]] So, the Britons are still independent, but the rest of the continent (or whatever's left of it after the Great Atomic War) is implied to be unified in one polity.
22nd Sep '17 12:17:21 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Europe is usually said to have two different Mega Cities: Brit Cit and Euro Cit.[[note]]Ireland could also be counted as a separate entity, but that's a whole 'nother story: [[TheThemeParkVersion it's literally a giant theme park]].[[/note]] So, the Britons are still independent, but the rest of the continent is implied to be unified in one polity.
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16th Sep '17 5:31:17 PM nombretomado
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* One of the main factions in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer2013'', with their appearance and [[ACommanderIsYou game-play style]] making them a CaptainErsatz of the first game's [[YanksWithTanks USA faction]], after [[CulturalCringe fan hatred]] saw the U.S. getting terrorized and retreating from Europe to secure the home-front in the first game's expansion pack.

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* One of the main factions in ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer2013'', with their appearance and [[ACommanderIsYou game-play style]] making them a CaptainErsatz of the first game's [[YanksWithTanks [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks USA faction]], after [[CulturalCringe fan hatred]] saw the U.S. getting terrorized and retreating from Europe to secure the home-front in the first game's expansion pack.
9th Sep '17 8:38:19 PM SSJMagus
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Whether this is destined to be TruthInTelevision or not, as well as whether it ''ought'' to be, depends on who you ask. It remains a ''very'' contentious issue on both sides. Let's just say that the EU isn't especially popular in the UK (especially considering that the country has experienced [[http://archive.is/8VLSP an economic boom]] since the Brexit vote[[note]]YMMV on this, depending on who you ask, consdidering that the referendum result in favour of leaving was a marginal win by 52:48 for the anti-EU faction, and factoring in that some UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers with an agenda of their own are talking up slight indicators of a boom to justify their somewhat fervent pro-Brexit positions, combined with very real and noticeable drops in the value of the pound, leaves the future a lot more uncertain[[/note]]) or present-day Greece, and everywhere else the mention of it being a good/bad thing can spark a rather fierce argument down at the pub if you aren't careful. RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement may well apply.

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Whether this is destined to be TruthInTelevision or not, as well as whether it ''ought'' to be, depends on who you ask. It remains a ''very'' contentious issue on both sides. Let's just say that the EU isn't especially popular in the UK (especially considering that the country has experienced [[http://archive.is/8VLSP an economic boom]] since the Brexit vote[[note]]YMMV on this, depending on who you ask, consdidering that the referendum result in favour of leaving was a marginal win by 52:48 for the anti-EU faction, and factoring in that some UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers with an agenda of their own are talking up slight indicators of a boom to justify their somewhat fervent pro-Brexit positions, combined with very real and noticeable drops in the value of the pound, leaves the future a lot more uncertain[[/note]]) uncertain. Especially since Brexit hasn't actually ''happened'' yet, it's just been agreed to do it. It's far to early to tell what the economic impact will be once the split is actually finalized, especially since the exact details (as in, whether the EU will be willing to negotiate favorable trade deals with the UK or attempt to punish them for leaving via heavy tariffs) are still under negotiation, and there's the additional prospect that Scotland (which voted 62:38 in favor of remaining in the EU, without even a single town or county having an anti-EU majority, and already had a strong anti-UK nationalist faction) might declare independence in order to rejoin the EU and take most of the UK's oil with them.[[/note]]) or present-day Greece, and everywhere else the mention of it being a good/bad thing can spark a rather fierce argument down at the pub if you aren't careful. RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement may well apply.
21st Jul '17 9:50:36 PM JackTheHammer
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** While the E.U. is mostly in the background in [[Anime/CodeGeass the original show]], ''Anime/CodeGeassAkitoTheExiled'' is set entirely in Europe.

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** While the E.U. is mostly in the background in [[Anime/CodeGeass the original show]], ''Anime/CodeGeassAkitoTheExiled'' is set entirely in Europe.Europe, and shows us the continent isn't as united as it sounds. The major conflict in the OVA series is between the United Republic of Europia (which is most of Western and Central Europe with its capital in Paris) vs. Euro Britannia, which remains loyal to the Holy Britannian Empire (consisting mainly of Eastern Europe and Russia, with its capital in St. Petersburg). The major battles in the series take place in Poland and Belarus, which is the front line of the European theater of war.
16th Jul '17 3:50:14 AM randomaccount124
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* ''[[VideoGame/{{Hearts of Iron 2}} Hearts of Iron 2]]'' mod modern day scenario has an event where the EU unites to one country as well... it also becomes a hyperpower the moment that happens since you get way more production/resources/manpower/research than anyone else...
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