History Main / UnfortunateImplications

16th Apr '18 10:35:27 AM Luigifan
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This is a highly subjective AudienceReaction, and since in the past this page became bogged down in arguments about some tropers believing that concerns about such matters simply relate to PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad, and other tropers -- seeing the entire "political correctness" argument as a plausibly deniable defense of racism -- vehemently oppose it, '''no example may be added in this article or on a work article, without proof that it's not just one person's thinking'''. Citations are done as follows:

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This is a highly subjective AudienceReaction, and since in the past this page became bogged down in arguments about some tropers believing that concerns about such matters simply relate to PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad, and other tropers -- seeing the entire "political correctness" argument as a plausibly deniable defense of racism -- vehemently oppose it, '''no example may be added in this article or on a work article, without proof that it's not just one person's thinking'''. Citations are done as follows:



* Anything related to the SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes, especially those that seemingly blame a victim for their own assault.
* Allusions to historical atrocities, such as slavery and the Holocaust.

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* Anything related to the SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes, especially those that seemingly [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming blame a victim for their own assault.
assault]].
* Allusions to historical atrocities, such as slavery [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil slavery]] and the Holocaust.UsefulNotes/{{the Holocaust}}.



* [[AcceptableLifestyleTargets Lifestyle choices]] such as being childless, single, or married.

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* [[AcceptableLifestyleTargets Lifestyle choices]] choices]], such as being childless, having a large family, being single, or being married.



* Glorification of widely reviled cultural figures.

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* Glorification [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade Glorification]] of widely reviled cultural figures.



* [[http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/08/large-clothes-on-small-women-a-plus-size-marketing-mystery/ It's been noted]] [[http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/08/27/catalogs-clothes-and-representation-plus-size-at-fredericks/ several times]] that even clothing brands that market to plus-sized people tend to use extremely thin models to show their clothes, which has several effects: First, plus-sized clothing on your typical model looks ''enormous'' since it is not meant for their body type, meaning that the people who want to order it are unsure what it will look like on them, and it further stigmatizes plus-sized people because it implies that no-one will want to look at them, not even ''other'' plus-sized people looking for clothing that will fit them. Several companies have caught on and now consciously try to avert this, including [[http://www.kiyonna.com/ Kiyonna]], which honestly makes an effort to have its models be people who would actually wear their clothing in their everyday lives. Even plus-size (if you will) models are altered, which [[UncannyValley can seem unnatural]], but it's more noticeable [[http://www.1-plus.com/additionelle.htm here]].

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* [[http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/08/large-clothes-on-small-women-a-plus-size-marketing-mystery/ It's been noted]] [[http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/08/27/catalogs-clothes-and-representation-plus-size-at-fredericks/ several times]] that even clothing brands that market to plus-sized people tend to use extremely thin models to show their clothes, which has several effects: First, plus-sized clothing on your typical model looks ''enormous'' ''enormous'', since it is not meant for their body type, meaning that the people who want to order it are unsure what it will look like on them, and it further stigmatizes plus-sized people because it implies that no-one will want to look at them, not even ''other'' plus-sized people looking for clothing that will fit them. Several companies have caught on and now consciously try to avert this, including [[http://www.kiyonna.com/ Kiyonna]], which honestly makes an effort to have its models be people who would actually wear their clothing in their everyday lives. Even plus-size (if you will) models are altered, which [[UncannyValley can seem unnatural]], but it's more noticeable [[http://www.1-plus.com/additionelle.htm here]].
10th Apr '18 11:21:17 AM chasemaddigan
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** The show tries to present a positive image of the LGBT community; however, it tends to rely on old stereotypes to tell jokes, which some people find offensive. A good example would be in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad Quagmire's Dad]]", where Quagmire's father undergoes a sex-change operation. Despite Creator/SethMacFarlane claiming that the episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a trans character that has ever been on television", [[https://www.webcitation.org/67Be0QzjP?url=http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot the episode features jokes like Brian puking for 30 seconds after finding out he had just fucked a trans woman, characters using pronouns like "it" to refer to Ida, and comparing transgender people to sex offenders]].

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** The show tries to present a positive image of the LGBT community; however, it tends to rely on old stereotypes to tell jokes, which some people find offensive. A good example would be in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad Quagmire's Dad]]", where Quagmire's father undergoes a sex-change operation. Despite Creator/SethMacFarlane claiming that the episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a trans transsexual character that has ever been on television", [[https://www.webcitation.org/67Be0QzjP?url=http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot the episode features jokes like Brian puking for 30 seconds after finding out he had just fucked sex with a trans woman, characters using pronouns like "it" to refer to Ida, and comparing transgender people to sex offenders]].
10th Apr '18 9:47:05 AM Bisected8
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* ''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'' has a major plot point where the main villain turns out to be a CreepyCrossdresser (who's possibly also {{Transsexual}}), and is subsequently [[SlutShaming slut-shamed]] and mocked for it. [[http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/05/18/ace-ventura-het-perspective/ This review]] provides an AlternateCharacterInterpretation that points how cruel the narrative treats said villain, while [[http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/sinful-cinema-ace-ventura-pet-detective-the-most-offensive-and-homophobic-football-movie-ever-made this one]] points out that the narrative not only punishes Einhorn for kidnapping and murder, but also for being mentally unstable, "sexually deviant", and presenting as female. [[http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-26/entertainment/ca-27313_1_jim-carrey-ace-ventura-mr-carrey Even in 1994]], the film was derided for its homophobic implications.

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* ''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'' has a major plot point where the main villain turns out to be a CreepyCrossdresser (who's possibly also {{Transsexual}}), {{Transgender}}), and is subsequently [[SlutShaming slut-shamed]] and mocked for it. [[http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/05/18/ace-ventura-het-perspective/ This review]] provides an AlternateCharacterInterpretation that points how cruel the narrative treats said villain, while [[http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/sinful-cinema-ace-ventura-pet-detective-the-most-offensive-and-homophobic-football-movie-ever-made this one]] points out that the narrative not only punishes Einhorn for kidnapping and murder, but also for being mentally unstable, "sexually deviant", and presenting as female. [[http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-26/entertainment/ca-27313_1_jim-carrey-ace-ventura-mr-carrey Even in 1994]], the film was derided for its homophobic implications.



** The show tries to present a positive image of the LGBT community; however, it tends to rely on old stereotypes to tell jokes, which some people find offensive. A good example would be in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad Quagmire's Dad]]", where Quagmire's father undergoes a sex-change operation. Despite Creator/SethMacFarlane claiming that the episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transsexual character that has ever been on television", [[https://www.webcitation.org/67Be0QzjP?url=http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot the episode features jokes like Brian puking for 30 seconds after finding out he had just fucked a transexual, characters using pronouns like "it" to refer to Ida, and comparing transgender people to sex offenders]].

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** The show tries to present a positive image of the LGBT community; however, it tends to rely on old stereotypes to tell jokes, which some people find offensive. A good example would be in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad Quagmire's Dad]]", where Quagmire's father undergoes a sex-change operation. Despite Creator/SethMacFarlane claiming that the episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transsexual trans character that has ever been on television", [[https://www.webcitation.org/67Be0QzjP?url=http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2010/5/seth-macfarlane-complete-idiot the episode features jokes like Brian puking for 30 seconds after finding out he had just fucked a transexual, trans woman, characters using pronouns like "it" to refer to Ida, and comparing transgender people to sex offenders]].
6th Apr '18 8:55:32 PM Eagal
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* [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/business/dove-ad-racist.html Soap brand Dove has managed to *twice* show black women becoming white after using their product]].

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* [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/business/dove-ad-racist.html Soap brand Dove has managed to *twice* ''twice'' show black women becoming white after using their product]].
6th Apr '18 5:47:56 PM SanityOrMadness
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* [[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/business/dove-ad-racist.html Soap brand Dove has managed to *twice* show black women becoming white after using their product]].
3rd Apr '18 7:22:40 PM chasemaddigan
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* In [[http://channelawesome.com/bad-movie-beatdown-the-texas-chainsaw-massacre-the-beginning/ his review]] of ''Film/TheTexasChainsawMassacreTheBeginning'', Film Brain objected to the torturous death given to the promiscuous Bailey; she is first tied up, then raped, then has her teeth pulled out, and finally has her [[SlashedThroat throat cut]] with a pair of dull scissors. As the rape was deliberately shot to resemble a scene for her having kinky, but consensual, sex earlier in the movie, Film Brain took it to mean the filmmakers [[SlutShaming felt she deserved this gruesome fate]].

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* In [[http://channelawesome.com/bad-movie-beatdown-the-texas-chainsaw-massacre-the-beginning/ [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t37eS2BGZ8c his review]] of ''Film/TheTexasChainsawMassacreTheBeginning'', Film Brain objected to the torturous death given to the promiscuous Bailey; she is first tied up, then raped, then has her teeth pulled out, and finally has her [[SlashedThroat throat cut]] with a pair of dull scissors. As the rape was deliberately shot to resemble a scene for her having kinky, but consensual, sex earlier in the movie, Film Brain took it to mean the filmmakers [[SlutShaming felt she deserved this gruesome fate]].
2nd Apr '18 3:59:06 AM jormis29
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** [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/01/man-that-never-would-daleks.html The TARDIS Eruditorum]] has observed that it's uncomfortable watching "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks The Daleks]]", which has a theoretically anti-racist moral but also uses BeautyEqualsGoodness and presents the InhumanlyBeautifulRace as resembling Aryan supermen -- not least that Carole Ann Ford, the actress playing Susan, is Jewish and is asked to say dialogue calling them "perfect". This was also lampshaded indirectly in the ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'' drama ''The Alchemists'', set in 1930s Germany, where Susan remarks that a young Nazi SS officer looks "almost Thal-like", while herself receiving negative comments based on her dark-eyed appearance.

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** [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/01/man-that-never-would-daleks.html The TARDIS Eruditorum]] has observed that it's uncomfortable watching "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E2TheDaleks The Daleks]]", which has a theoretically anti-racist moral but also uses BeautyEqualsGoodness and presents the InhumanlyBeautifulRace as resembling Aryan supermen -- not least that Carole Ann Ford, Creator/CaroleAnnFord, the actress playing Susan, is Jewish and is asked to say dialogue calling them "perfect". This was also lampshaded indirectly in the ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'' drama ''The Alchemists'', set in 1930s Germany, where Susan remarks that a young Nazi SS officer looks "almost Thal-like", while herself receiving negative comments based on her dark-eyed appearance.
30th Mar '18 10:55:38 PM erforce
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* ''Film/AceVentura'' has a major plot point where the main villain turns out to be a CreepyCrossdresser (who's possibly also {{Transsexual}}), and is subsequently [[SlutShaming slut-shamed]] and mocked for it. [[http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/05/18/ace-ventura-het-perspective/ This review]] provides an AlternateCharacterInterpretation that points how cruel the narrative treats said villain, while [[http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/sinful-cinema-ace-ventura-pet-detective-the-most-offensive-and-homophobic-football-movie-ever-made this one]] points out that the narrative not only punishes Einhorn for kidnapping and murder, but also for being mentally unstable, "sexually deviant", and presenting as female. [[http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-26/entertainment/ca-27313_1_jim-carrey-ace-ventura-mr-carrey Even in 1994]], the film was derided for its homophobic implications.

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* ''Film/AceVentura'' ''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'' has a major plot point where the main villain turns out to be a CreepyCrossdresser (who's possibly also {{Transsexual}}), and is subsequently [[SlutShaming slut-shamed]] and mocked for it. [[http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/05/18/ace-ventura-het-perspective/ This review]] provides an AlternateCharacterInterpretation that points how cruel the narrative treats said villain, while [[http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/sinful-cinema-ace-ventura-pet-detective-the-most-offensive-and-homophobic-football-movie-ever-made this one]] points out that the narrative not only punishes Einhorn for kidnapping and murder, but also for being mentally unstable, "sexually deviant", and presenting as female. [[http://articles.latimes.com/1994-02-26/entertainment/ca-27313_1_jim-carrey-ace-ventura-mr-carrey Even in 1994]], the film was derided for its homophobic implications.
27th Mar '18 9:59:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Film/{{Peter Rabbit}}'' contained a scene where the titular rabbit and his family [[JerkAss chuck blackberries at Thomas McGregor knowing that he is allergic to them]]. One then gets into the poor gardener's mouth and he wheezes while struggling to get an Epipen. This infamous scene has understandably [[http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/12/peter-rabbit-producers-apologise-allergy-advocacy-groups-call-boycott-7306621/ infuriated]] [[https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/arts/peter-rabbit-food-allergy.html parents]] with kids who have allergies and are already boycotting the film.
* ''Film/CallMeByYourName'' is known mostly for being a gay love story. Would be fine and dandy if it weren't for the fact that the romance is between an adult man and a ''17-year-old'', [[PaedoHunt who in most places would be considered underage]]. Gets even worse considering it perpetuates ''and romanticizes'' [[AllGaysArePedophiles an outdated and extremely harmful trope]].

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* ''Film/{{Peter Rabbit}}'' ''Film/PeterRabbit'' contained a scene where the titular rabbit and his family [[JerkAss chuck blackberries at Thomas McGregor knowing that he is allergic to them]]. One then gets into the poor gardener's mouth and he wheezes while struggling to get an Epipen. This infamous scene has understandably [[http://metro.co.uk/2018/02/12/peter-rabbit-producers-apologise-allergy-advocacy-groups-call-boycott-7306621/ infuriated]] [[https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/arts/peter-rabbit-food-allergy.html parents]] with kids who have allergies and are already boycotting the film.
* ''Film/CallMeByYourName'' is known mostly for being a gay love story. Would be fine and dandy if it weren't for the fact that the romance is between an adult man and a ''17-year-old'', [[PaedoHunt who in most places would be considered underage]]. Gets even worse considering it perpetuates ''and romanticizes'' [[AllGaysArePedophiles an outdated and extremely harmful trope]].
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27th Mar '18 9:56:24 PM KiraDoom
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* ''Film/CallMeByYourName'' is known mostly for being a gay love story. Would be fine and dandy if it weren't for the fact that the romance is between an adult man and a ''17-year-old'', [[PaedoHunt who in most places would be considered underage]]. Gets even worse considering it perpetuates ''and romanticizes'' [[AllGaysArePedophiles an outdated and extremely harmful trope]].
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