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11th Dec '17 9:21:29 PM Angeldeb82
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[[caption-width-right:350:Let's just say ''Vogue'' managed to [[http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-03-24-vogue-controversy_N.htm get themselves]] [[http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080320 into trouble]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Let's just say ''Vogue'' managed to [[http://www.[[https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-03-24-vogue-controversy_N.htm get themselves]] [[http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080320 into trouble]].]]



* ''ElChavoDelOcho'' has [[http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/16346175/Bromas-del-Chavo-del-8-sus-significados.html several]] [[http://www.chavodel8.com/curiosidad/numero-41/ gay jokes]], including Don Ramon's famous CatchPhrase: "Yo le voy al Necaxa" (I support the Necaxa [soccer team]) this is because the followers of the Puebla (Necaxa's rival team) were accused to be gay. But probably the most inappropriate example was an episode in which Don Ramón and Profesor Jirafales are mistaken to be homosexuals and the rest of the cast reacts with anger, fear and disgust. This will be very offensive for modern audiences, specially in some very liberal parts of Mexico, like Mexico City (were the show is suppose to happen) a very progressive place and the first part of Mexico in legalize same-sex marriage.

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* ''ElChavoDelOcho'' ''Series/ElChavoDelOcho'' has [[http://www.taringa.net/posts/info/16346175/Bromas-del-Chavo-del-8-sus-significados.html several]] [[http://www.chavodel8.com/curiosidad/numero-41/ gay jokes]], including Don Ramon's famous CatchPhrase: "Yo le voy al Necaxa" (I support the Necaxa [soccer team]) this is because the followers of the Puebla (Necaxa's rival team) were accused to be gay. But probably the most inappropriate example was an episode in which Don Ramón and Profesor Jirafales are mistaken to be homosexuals and the rest of the cast reacts with anger, fear and disgust. This will be very offensive for modern audiences, specially in some very liberal parts of Mexico, like Mexico City (were the show is suppose to happen) a very progressive place and the first part of Mexico in legalize same-sex marriage.



* The Website/AVClub article [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/we-care-a-lot-14-overblown-charityadvocacy-songs-b,2217/ "We Care a Lot"]] discusses various examples of the CharityMotivationSong, such as "We Are the World", "Do They Know It's Christmas?", and more obscure efforts, pointing out more than once that the songs and videos made for them wind up coming off as narcissistic by promoting the celebrities singing them as much as, if not more than, the cause.

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* The Website/AVClub article [[http://www.[[https://music.avclub.com/articles/we-care-a-lot-14-overblown-charityadvocacy-songs-b,2217/ com/we-care-a-lot-14-overblown-charity-advocacy-songs-besi-1798213676 "We Care a Lot"]] discusses various examples of the CharityMotivationSong, such as "We Are the World", "Do They Know It's Christmas?", and more obscure efforts, pointing out more than once that the songs and videos made for them wind up coming off as narcissistic by promoting the celebrities singing them as much as, if not more than, the cause.



* Music/AvrilLavigne's "Girlfriend" music video has plenty of these, a great many of which get called out in the LiteralMusicVideo [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olsqjmn-MYY parody]] of it. On the whole, the video promotes promiscuity while shaming more conservative outlooks while simultaneously flipping between two different stereotypes.

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* Music/AvrilLavigne's "Girlfriend" music video has plenty of these, a great many of which get called out in the LiteralMusicVideo [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olsqjmn-MYY parody]] of it. On the whole, the video promotes promiscuity while shaming more conservative outlooks while simultaneously flipping between two different stereotypes.



** A [[http://kotaku.com/5890146/what-does-the-future-hold-for-mass-effects-painfully-punched-reporter Kotaku article]] guffawing about the RunningGag of [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard]]'s Renegade option to punch out [[{{Paparazzi}} reporter Khalisah bint Sinan al-Jilani]] attracted complaints that the action treated [[WouldHitAGirl violence against women]] as a laughing matter. Other commenters, however, made the point that in ''Mass Effect'''s future it didn't matter that she was a woman, and that female Shepards could do the exact same thing. Even the author of the conversations weighed in, saying that al-Jilani was a TakeThat directed against certain {{Pompous Political Pundit}}s and biased journalism and that the only reason he made al-Jilani a woman was because he likes coming up with female names more. He was more surprised people ''weren't'' latching onto the fact that al-Jilani is identifiably Arab. [[http://kotaku.com/5890146/what-does-the-future-hold-for-mass-effects-painfully-punched-reporter?comment=47624401#comments "They notice the gender issue, not the race issue."]]

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** A [[http://kotaku.com/5890146/what-does-the-future-hold-for-mass-effects-painfully-punched-reporter Kotaku article]] guffawing about the RunningGag of [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard]]'s Renegade option to punch out [[{{Paparazzi}} reporter Khalisah bint Sinan al-Jilani]] attracted complaints that the action treated [[WouldHitAGirl violence against women]] as a laughing matter. Other commenters, however, made the point that in ''Mass Effect'''s future it didn't matter that she was a woman, and that female Shepards could do the exact same thing. Even the author of the conversations weighed in, saying that al-Jilani was a TakeThat directed against certain {{Pompous Political Pundit}}s and biased journalism and that the only reason he made al-Jilani a woman was because he likes coming up with female names more. He was more surprised people ''weren't'' latching onto the fact that al-Jilani is identifiably Arab. [[http://kotaku.[[https://kotaku.com/5890146/what-does-the-future-hold-for-mass-effects-painfully-punched-reporter?comment=47624401#comments "They notice the gender issue, not the race issue."]]



* ''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}''[='=]s art style pays homage to cartoons of the 1930s, many of which deployed racial caricatures for comedy. Studio MDHR has stated that in designing the aesthetic of ''Cuphead'', [[https://kotaku.com/cuphead-developers-talk-cut-bosses-and-whats-in-the-cup-1820126327 they wanted to honor the artistic merit, but not the racism]]. Some critics, however, note that ''Cuphead'' still borrows many of the tropes and plot devices used in the racist, and that [[https://unwinnable.com/2017/11/10/cuphead-and-the-racist-spectre-of-fleischer-animation/ merely swapping out a racist character design for a nonoffensive one doesn't do enough to separate the art from its racist context]].
** Thinkpieces like these have attracted criticism of their own, by those who see this criticism as "[[HitlerAteSugar guilt by association]]", and that, taken in a vacuum, works like ''Cuphead'' are free of any real negative social attitudes. Others have accused the thinkpieces themselves of saying that the game needs to be racist to be "authentic," which is even ''worse''.



* ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' lampshades this trope in [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=850 this strip.]] To explain, a ''Franchise/{{LEGO}}'' [[SpacePolice Space Policeman]] is showing a diagram of a variety of aliens and identifying them as inhuman criminals in a lecture to a bunch of human trainees. There's a pause and one of the trainees says "Anyone else uncomfortable with this?"

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* ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' lampshades this trope in [[http://www.shortpacked.com/index.php?id=850 this strip.]] To explain, a ''Franchise/{{LEGO}}'' [[SpacePolice Space Policeman]] {{Space Police}}man is showing a diagram of a variety of aliens and identifying them as inhuman criminals in a lecture to a bunch of human trainees. There's a pause and one of the trainees says "Anyone else uncomfortable with this?"
10th Dec '17 11:30:58 AM rjd1922
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** There's an InUniverse example in the Creator/{{Pixar}} [[WesternAnimation/PixarShorts short film]] ''Mr. Incredible and Pals'', the plot of which is Mr. Incredible and Frozone watching the unaired {{pilot}} of a show about them. Frozone (a black superhero) is highly upset that ([[StylisticSuck among other things]]), they [[ButNotTooBlack lightened his skin tone considerably]], made him speak in JiveTurkey, and made him the DistressedDude while his (white) friend Mr. Incredible rescues him.



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'': The AdaptationExpansion that was supposed to be an AuthorsSavingThrow for Barbara's StuffedIntoTheFridge treatment in the graphic novel is even worse than in the source material, as [[spoiler: she's treated as MsFanservice and given an arc portraying her as an [[http://comicsalliance.com/animated-killing-joke-batman-batgirls-relationship/ emotionally needy girl seeking out a relationship with Batman rather than a platonic friend and heroic protégé]].]]



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'': The AdaptationExpansion that was supposed to be an AuthorsSavingThrow for Barbara's StuffedIntoTheFridge treatment in the graphic novel is even worse than in the source material, as [[spoiler: she's treated as MsFanservice and given an arc portraying her as an [[http://comicsalliance.com/animated-killing-joke-batman-batgirls-relationship/ emotionally needy girl seeking out a relationship with Batman rather than a platonic friend and heroic protege]]]]
* There's an InUniverse example in the Creator/{{Pixar}} short film ''Mr. Incredible and Pals'', the plot of which is [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Mr. Incredible and Frozone]] watching the unaired pilot of a show about them. Frozone (a black superhero) is highly upset that ([[StylisticSuck among other things]]), they [[ButNotTooBlack lightened his skin tone considerably]], made him speak in JiveTurkey, and made him the DistressedDude while his (white) friend Mr. Incredible rescues him.
6th Dec '17 10:33:21 PM MarkLungo
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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]].

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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]].



* {{Defied|Trope}} by Creator/JossWhedon in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/09/secrets-revealed-in-joss-whedons-avengers-dvd-commnetary DVD commentary reveals]] that [[BadassBystander the old man]] who compares Loki to [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] came about after Whedon realized what else a crowd of Germans [[KneelBeforeZod Kneeling Before Zod]] looked like. He also made sure that other people could be seen standing in the background while Captain America said his line about "a man standing above everybody else" so that Cap wouldn't be the one standing above everybody else.

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* {{Defied|Trope}} by Creator/JossWhedon in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/09/secrets-revealed-in-joss-whedons-avengers-dvd-commnetary DVD commentary reveals]] that [[BadassBystander the old man]] who compares Loki to [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler came about after Whedon realized what else a crowd of Germans [[KneelBeforeZod Kneeling Before Zod]] looked like. He also made sure that other people could be seen standing in the background while Captain America said his line about "a man standing above everybody else" so that Cap wouldn't be the one standing above everybody else.
6th Dec '17 7:20:04 PM MagBas
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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals losing control of it]].

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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals losing control of it]].dynamics]].
6th Dec '17 7:02:15 PM MagBas
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* The villains of ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars 2}}'' are "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_(automobile) lemons]]", cars with hindering defects who are mocked by the good guys. They target the race cars of the World Grand Prix to make the car world's greatest athletes feel as crippled as them. As one ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' article [[http://www.cracked.com/article_21684_5-kids-movie-universes-with-horrifying-implications.html points out]], this carries the dark real-world implication that disabled people are evil and deserve to be mocked by "normal" people.



* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]], [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-talking-animals-are-bad-way-to-talk-about-racism/ carelessly choosing their metaphor]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals losing control of it]], among other things.

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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]], [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-talking-animals-are-bad-way-to-talk-about-racism/ carelessly choosing their metaphor]] dynamics]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals losing control of it]], among other things.it]].



** [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-pieces-relationship-advice-movies-need-to-stop-giving_p2/ As noted in this]] Website/{{Cracked}} article, the idea that a good relationship means one where you don't have to change yourself at all for your lover creates a very uncomfortable air of entitlement and a ''horribly'' inaccurate picture of what a real relationship actually takes.
5th Dec '17 5:37:49 PM Eagal
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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]], [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-talking-animals-are-bad-way-to-talk-about-racism/ carelessly choosing their metaphor]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals loosing control of it]], among other things.

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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]], [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-talking-animals-are-bad-way-to-talk-about-racism/ carelessly choosing their metaphor]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals loosing losing control of it]], among other things.
5th Dec '17 2:25:04 PM MoonKitten
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* The treatment of the predator vs. prey allegory in ''Disney/Zootopia'' has been criticised for [[https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ ignoring the big picture of power dynamics]], [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-talking-animals-are-bad-way-to-talk-about-racism/ carelessly choosing their metaphor]] and [[birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/03/zootopia-review-a-muddled-mess-of-racial-messaging...-and-cute-animals loosing control of it]], among other things.
25th Nov '17 2:39:19 PM Pamina
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* Disney's ''Disney/ChickenLittle'' didn't sit well with some viewers because of the way the story treats Foxy Loxy. She's a popular, athletic tomboy and a bully ([[JerkJock without succumbing to the "mean girl" stereotype]]). And by the end of the film, not only is she [[spoiler:the only real antagonist]], but she's also ''{{mind rape}}d'' into becoming docile and feminine after being trapped, terrified, in a featureless, black void. When a cure is offered, Runt exclaims "She's ''perfect''!" and she instantly becomes his girlfriend. So her character arc ends with her being [[HeelFaceBrainwashing brainwashed]] into becoming traditionally feminine, and no-one advocates for her right to her own damn personality because a boy likes her better this way. And then there's the fact that Chicken Little (a.k.a. Henny Penny) in the original fairytale is made a boy, apparently to better appeal to general audiences. [[http://allthedisneymovies.blogspot.com/2013/04/2005-chicken-little.html The issue of gender roles hasn't gone unnoticed.]]

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* Disney's ''Disney/ChickenLittle'' didn't sit well with some viewers because of the way the story treats Foxy Loxy. She's a popular, athletic tomboy and a bully ([[JerkJock without succumbing to the "mean girl" stereotype]]). And by the end of the film, not only is she [[spoiler:the only real antagonist]], but she's also ''{{mind rape}}d'' into becoming docile and feminine after being trapped, terrified, in a featureless, black void. When a cure is offered, Runt exclaims "She's ''perfect''!" and she instantly becomes his girlfriend. So her character arc ends with her being [[HeelFaceBrainwashing brainwashed]] into becoming traditionally feminine, and no-one advocates for her right to her own damn personality because a boy likes her better this way. And then there's the fact that Chicken Little (a.k.a. Henny Penny) Little, a girl in the original fairytale fairytale, is made a boy, apparently to better appeal to general audiences. [[http://allthedisneymovies.blogspot.com/2013/04/2005-chicken-little.html The issue of gender roles hasn't gone unnoticed.]]
17th Nov '17 4:06:02 PM StarSword
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* ''Series/TheOrville'''s episode "Cupid's Dagger" drew the ire of both [[https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1236124/the-orville-s01e09-cupids-dagger-reviews#latest viewers]] and [[https://www.geek.com/television/the-orvilles-timing-could-not-have-been-worse-1722333/ reviewers]] for its poor grasp of sexual consent. Darulio is essentially guilty of three known counts of date rape (by way of [[SmellsSexy estrus pheromones that evidently work on humans]]) by the end of the episode, which is ignored completely. The episode was made worse by its real-world timing, having aired amidst a wide-ranging spate of sexual misconduct scandals that started with Hollywood casting mogul Harvey Weinstein being publicly accused of crimes up to and including rape.
13th Nov '17 7:28:25 AM Eagal
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** On at least one forum, the discussion about the cover eventually led to the claim that male superheroes were never shown too scared to act, and once Scarecrow's fear gas was brought up it was almost immediately dismissed as mere chemicals. While they are created chemically, ''[[YourMindMakesItReal the gas causes the victim to see realistic hallucinations of their worst fears]]''; they don't just get afraid without a reason. So either the argument that fear gas doesn't count was flawed from the start, or dismissing it as "not real fear" results in the implication that hallucinations of past trauma isn't real fear, since it isn't really happening.
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