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27th May '16 11:03:09 PM Eagal
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]].U It really doesn't help that the editor of the issue and a defender of the Hydra change, Tom Brevoort, was also one of the main defenders of removing the Maximoff's Jewish heritage, claiming that it was never important to their characters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]].U It really doesn't help that the editor of the issue and a defender of the Hydra change, Tom Brevoort, was also one of the main defenders of removing the Maximoff's Jewish heritage, claiming that it was never important to their characters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.
27th May '16 11:02:39 PM Eagal
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters. It really doesn't help that the editor of the issue and a defender of the Hydra change, Tom Brevoort, was also one of the main defenders of removing the Maximoff's Jewish heritage, claiming that it was never important to their characters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters. U It really doesn't help that the editor of the issue and a defender of the Hydra change, Tom Brevoort, was also one of the main defenders of removing the Maximoff's Jewish heritage, claiming that it was never important to their characters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.
27th May '16 7:32:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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*** [[spoiler: To add to this, Steve's father, an Irish immigrant, has been {{Retcon}}ned into being a drunken [[DomesticAbuse wife-beater]]. A formerly noble and kind Irish man was turned into a violent drunk and [[DomesticAbuse abuser]]. He's now basically every bad stereotype from {{Oireland}} rolled into one save for being an IRA supporter.]]
27th May '16 11:46:02 AM YeMightyDespair
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters. It really doesn't help that the editor of the issue and a defender of the Hydra change, Tom Brevoort, was also one of the main defenders of removing the Maximoff's Jewish heritage, claiming that it was never important to their characters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.option.
*** [[spoiler: To add to this, Steve's father, an Irish immigrant, has been {{Retcon}}ned into being a drunken [[DomesticAbuse wife-beater]]. A formerly noble and kind Irish man was turned into a violent drunk and [[DomesticAbuse abuser]]. He's now basically every bad stereotype from {{Oireland}} rolled into one save for being an IRA supporter.]]
27th May '16 10:39:52 AM Blazer
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters. To make matters worse, [[http://www.newsarama.com/29488-no-captain-america-is-not-a-nazi-looking-at-hydras-true-nature.html an article trying to explain HYDRA]] didn't do wonders either, as if they tried to say "Cap isn't a Nazi, he's just a fascist!" as if it was a better option.
27th May '16 8:22:03 AM comicwriter
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with).with)]]. That this occurred after ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has not helped matters.
27th May '16 8:20:50 AM comicwriter
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of MCU [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this is coming after the {{Retcon} that established that ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} are not related to Magneot, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has no helped matters.

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of MCU [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this is coming occurred after the {{Retcon} that established that ScarletWitch and {{Quicksilver}} are not were {{Retcon}}ned into no longer being related to Magneot, Magneto, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has no not helped matters.
27th May '16 8:17:57 AM comicwriter
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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of MCU [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this is all coming after Marvel retconned Wanda and Pietro's heritage does not help.]]

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** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of MCU [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this is all coming after Marvel retconned Wanda the {{Retcon} that established that ScarletWitch and Pietro's heritage does {{Quicksilver}} are not help.]] related to Magneot, which had the side effect of removing their Jewish lineage, has no helped matters.
27th May '16 1:50:14 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'':
** Rick Remender's run [[http://www.therainbowhub.com/why-rick-remender-needs-to-stop/ ran into a number of criticisms]], mostly relating to the portrayal of women. In particular, the relationship between Falcon and new character Jet Black was exceedingly controversial due to Jet debuting as a young teenager; she had experienced a PlotRelevantAgeUp before the relationship began but was still drawn more or less the same way, leading to accusations of Remender promoting statutory rape.
** The first issue of Nick Spencer's run generated an enormous backlash, to say the least. While absolutely no-one expects this to actually stick, [[spoiler: Steve un-ironically going "Hail Hydra" is regarded as lazy, shock-value "storytelling" at best. [[http://panels.net/2016/05/26/on-steve-rogers-1-antisemitism-and-publicity-stunts/ At worst, it's been called an insult to Cap's original creators (both of whom were Jewish and writing at a time when expressing anti-Nazi and anti-Hitler sentiments got them death threats)]] given the origins of MCU [=HYDRA=] (which is what most people will be familiar with). That this is all coming after Marvel retconned Wanda and Pietro's heritage does not help.]]
22nd May '16 3:15:53 PM MagBas
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* In ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', Kaworu is already implied to be AmbiguouslyGay, but the English dub helped by giving him a voice actor with a noticeable lisp, an old stereotypical trait of gay men. Future installments in the franchise have cast different voice actors without the lisp.
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