History Main / UndeadHorseTrope

6th May '18 7:53:14 PM thecarolinabull01
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Generally, there's a standard progression as a trope ages. First, it is born. Once it's become established enough, {{parod|y}}ies and {{subver|tedTrope}}sions start to crop up. It ends up eventually becoming a trope that no one should dare use seriously, making it a DiscreditedTrope, and subversions might be common enough to be straight examples of new tropes, making it a DeadHorseTrope. Or it could just be [[ForgottenTrope forgotten completely.]]

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Generally, there's a standard progression as a trope ages. First, it is born. Once it's become established enough, {{parod|y}}ies and {{parod|y}}ies, {{subver|tedTrope}}sions and {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ions start to crop up. It ends up eventually becoming a trope that no one should dare use seriously, making it a DiscreditedTrope, and subversions might be common enough to be straight examples of new tropes, making it a DeadHorseTrope. Or it could just be [[ForgottenTrope forgotten completely.]]
24th Apr '18 7:44:22 PM karstovich2
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* DeathByChildbirth: Even though this is rare in developed countries, the HandWave that "Hey, it can still happen!" makes it a great FreudianExcuse. And there are still period pieces [[JustifiedTrope where it shouldn't be rare at all]]. (Parodied, for example, in ''Film/TheDictator'', where Aladeen's mother is said to have "died in childbirth", but that's only because she was immediately smothered with a pillow so that her son could be raised by the state.)

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* DeathByChildbirth: Even though this is rare in developed countries, the HandWave that "Hey, it can still happen!" makes it a great FreudianExcuse. And there are still period pieces [[JustifiedTrope where it shouldn't be rare at all]].all]] (and it can still be [[https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/10/16865750/black-women-maternal-mortality-erica-garner surprisingly]] [[https://www.vox.com/2017/12/4/16705164/us-maternal-death-rate-high-california-doctors-the-impact high]] in developed countries). (Parodied, for example, in ''Film/TheDictator'', where Aladeen's mother is said to have "died in childbirth", but that's only because she was immediately smothered with a pillow so that her son could be raised by the state.)
20th Apr '18 1:41:30 PM MasterFuzzy
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* DamselInDistress: Has been parodied plenty, but being TheArtifact for a lot of long running series (The ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series itself mocks it every time it is used, though Princess Zelda's capturing is more straightlaced), and how it functions well enough for its cheapness, keeps it alive. Plus, depending on how violent or harrowing the action is, it can be a good way to set up {{Fanservice}}.

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* DamselInDistress: Has been parodied plenty, but being TheArtifact for a lot of long running series (The ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series itself mocks it every time it is used, though Princess Zelda's capturing is more straightlaced), and how it functions well enough for its cheapness, keeps it alive. Plus, depending on how violent or harrowing the action is, it can be a good way to set up {{Fanservice}}.{{Fanservice}}, and/or a RescueRomance.
10th Apr '18 1:46:44 PM thecarolinabull01
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* LetsJustBeFriends: This line is still dropped often despite it being nigh-impossible to take it seriously anymore. Not to mention the ex-couples involved are rarely actually able to do so.

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* LetsJustBeFriends: This line is still dropped often despite it being nigh-impossible very difficult to take it seriously anymore. Not to mention the ex-couples involved are rarely actually able to do so. [[note]]Some studies even suggest that a 100% platonic relationship between a male and a female is nigh-impossible.[[/note]].
1st Apr '18 9:37:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* SoulSavingCrusader: Portraying the inquisition-minded fundamentalist worldview as absolutely correct fell out of favor with the rise of secularism. However, it's still used as an effective plot twist when it turns out that [[TheExtremistWasRight the zealots were right after all]].
18th Mar '18 3:39:51 AM thecarolinabull01
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* DawsonCasting: The tradition of casting young adult actors to portray teenagers is often parodied and scorned, with aversions being more common now than they used to be. Sometimes, however straight uses are more convenient (adult actors are less of a hassle to deal with and [[AbilityOverAppearance are usually better actors]]) or unavoidable (teen characters are shown nude/having sex, the actor starts off being roughly the same age as the character, but the in-universe timespan doesn't match the real-life timespan so the actor's age surpasses the character's age). The [[Analysis/DawsonCasting analysis page]] goes into more depth on why Dawson Casting is still used.

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* DawsonCasting: The tradition of casting young adult actors to portray teenagers is often parodied and scorned, with aversions being more common now than they used to be. Sometimes, however straight uses are more convenient (adult actors are less of a hassle to deal with and [[AbilityOverAppearance are usually better actors]]) or unavoidable (teen characters are shown nude/having sex, the actor starts off being roughly the same age as the character, but the in-universe timespan doesn't match the real-life timespan so the actor's age surpasses the character's age).unavoidable. The [[Analysis/DawsonCasting analysis page]] goes into more depth on why Dawson Casting is still used.



* UglyGuyHotWife: Both audiences and critics heavily mock this practice for either A) Giving unattractive men false hope regarding the type of woman they can attract [[note]]even though it's sometimes TruthInTelevision[[/note]] or B) Promoting a DoubleStandard regarding acceptable levels of attractiveness for leading actors and actresses [[note]]as it is harder for plain-Jane actresses to get leading roles than it is for average-Joe actors[[/note]]. Then came the aversions, such as ''Series/MikeAndMolly'', so one might think the stereotype had died. But unless the standard for female beauty in Hollywood goes down, or the one for males goes up, this trope is not going anywhere anytime soon. It helps that most modern uses are {{deconstruct|ed trope}}ions, such as showing that the husband is aware that his wife is out of his league and constantly worries that she'll leave him for a better-looking man, and/or showing that the wife has her own insecurities, fearing that he views her as nothing but a TrophyWife and that he'll eventually grow tired of her and leave her for someone hotter or with a better personality.

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* UglyGuyHotWife: Both audiences and critics heavily mock this practice for either A) Giving unattractive men male viewers false hope regarding the type of woman they can attract be with [[note]]even though it's sometimes TruthInTelevision[[/note]] or B) Promoting a DoubleStandard regarding acceptable levels of attractiveness for leading actors and actresses [[note]]as it is harder for plain-Jane actresses to get leading roles than it is for average-Joe actors[[/note]]. Then came the aversions, such as ''Series/MikeAndMolly'', so one might think the stereotype had died. But unless the standard for female beauty in Hollywood goes down, or the one for males goes up, this trope is not going anywhere anytime soon. It helps that most modern uses are {{deconstruct|ed trope}}ions, such as showing that the husband is aware that his wife is out of his league and constantly worries that she'll leave him for a better-looking man, and/or showing that the wife has her own insecurities, fearing that he views her as nothing but a TrophyWife and that he'll eventually grow tired of her and leave her for someone hotter or with a better personality.
28th Feb '18 8:19:10 PM Synchronicity
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* EvilTwin: Often parodied, subverted, or just plain joked about whenever there are twins in the cast. But it's still a useful tool for inducing drama in shows.

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* EvilTwin: Often parodied, subverted, recognized as a cliche, or just plain joked about whenever there are twins in the cast. But it's still a useful tool for inducing drama in shows.
28th Feb '18 8:18:45 PM Synchronicity
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* EvilTwin: Often parodied, subverted, or just plain joked about whenever there are twins in the cast. But it's still a useful tool for inducing drama in shows.
31st Jan '18 11:05:37 AM thecarolinabull01
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* BlackIsBiggerInBed: The one black stereotype that is unlikely to ever die. According to studies done by [=PornHub=] and [[http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/333932 others]], this is TruthInTelevision, making its death even more unlikely.

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* BlackIsBiggerInBed: The one black stereotype that is unlikely to ever die. According to studies done by [=PornHub=] and [[http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/333932 others]], this is TruthInTelevision, TruthInTelevision (although it is not universal), making its death even more unlikely.
19th Jan '18 6:56:46 AM thecarolinabull01
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* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Pretty much in any comedy that started after 1992 has this is happening to husbands by their wife. There has been a growing backlash to this DoubleStandard [[note]]the father getting abused or pushed around is deemed "okay", but the mother getting treated like that would create accusations of misogynistic undertones[[/note]] in TheNewTens from both genders and more modern shows have been subverting, averting or deconstructing it in an attempt to discredit it, but this trope is still often played straight and a widely defended belief in RealLife, even among law enforcement.

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* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Pretty much in any comedy that started after 1992 has this is happening to husbands by their wife. There has been a growing backlash to this DoubleStandard [[note]]the father getting abused or pushed around is deemed "okay", but the mother getting treated like that would create accusations of misogynistic undertones[[/note]] undertones and incur the wrath of MoralGuardians[[/note]] in TheNewTens from both genders and more modern shows have been subverting, averting or deconstructing it in an attempt to discredit it, but this trope is still often played straight and a widely defended belief in RealLife, even among law enforcement.
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