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4th May '17 10:30:49 PM Sammettik
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* ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'', unlike [[Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory the book it was based on]], never specifies if the bratty kids made it out of the factory all right.
4th May '17 10:28:29 PM Sammettik
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* When Shadow defeats Black Doom in ''[[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog Shadow the Hedgehog]]'', he is last shown expressing shock and claiming to be immortal before he falls. He is never seen again in the series and is presumed dead, but some have questioned this.
** In ''[[VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]]'', when the Deadly Six are defeated, Zazz, Zomom, Master Zik, and Zeena [[NoBodyLeftBehind explode in a puff of smoke]], and Zor and Zavok [[DisneyVillainDeath fall into the lava]]. This, as well as it being their final appearance in game would suggest that they died, but Eggman making plans to control the Deadly Six again suggested they were still alive. Notably, they [[SparedByTheAdaptation all survived in the 3DS version]].

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* When Shadow defeats Black Doom in ''[[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog Shadow the Hedgehog]]'', he is last shown expressing shock and claiming to be immortal before he falls. He is never seen again in the series and is presumed dead, but some have questioned this.
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In ''[[VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]]'', when the Deadly Six are defeated, Zazz, Zomom, Master Zik, and Zeena [[NoBodyLeftBehind explode in a puff of smoke]], and whilst Zor and Zavok [[DisneyVillainDeath fall into the lava]]. This, as well as it being their final appearance in game would suggest that they died, but Eggman making later claims he's got plans to control the Deadly Six again suggested suggesting they were still alive. alive, or at least can easily be revived. Notably, they [[SparedByTheAdaptation all survived in the 3DS version]].version]], and their appearance in spinoffs suggests ''SEGA'' doesn't consider them KilledOffForReal.
29th Apr '17 11:19:45 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'', unlike [[Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory the book it was based on]], never specifies if the bratty kids made it out of the factory all right.
26th Apr '17 3:12:21 PM AthenaBlue
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and [[TheDragon Vanilla Ice]]), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and [[TheDragon Vanilla Ice]]), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.



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26th Apr '17 2:05:18 PM emperors
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and [[TheDragon Vanilla Ice), Ice]]), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.
26th Apr '17 2:04:04 PM emperors
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* ''Manga/JojosBizzarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizzarreAdventure'' ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.
26th Apr '17 2:03:48 PM emperors
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* ''Manga/JojosBizzareAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.

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* ''Manga/JojosBizzareAdventure'' ''Manga/JojosBizzarreAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.
26th Apr '17 2:03:32 PM emperors
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* ''Manga/JojosBizzareAdventure'' Part 3 does this with some of the Stand users. While some are confirmed dead (including Fake Capatin Tennille, [[KillerGorilla Forever]], Devo, [[TheSociopath J. Geil]], Pet Shop, and Vanilla Ice), some are confirmed alive ([[EnfanteTerrible Mannish Boy]], Boingo and Oingo, Mariah, and Hol Horse), and there are some whose fate are uncomfirmed. Among those whose fates are uncomfirmed, there are two of them who are highly implied to be dead as they don't get up. They are Steely Dan (whose been punched even more times than Forever and did not get up) and Rubber Soul.
8th Apr '17 11:12:08 PM AthenaBlue
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* In ''Anime/EsOtherwise'', [[spoiler: Kai Kudo]] is not seen alive or dead after the explosion in the final episode.
* In ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'', [[spoiler: The entire crew, minus Mamoru and Kaido, is left in a collapsing universe, sacrificing their only (known) way out to save the kids.]]
* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' concludes with considerable ambiguity concerning the fates of several characters. [[spoiler: Hide is considering a missing person, and last seen with a hallucinating Kaneki who may or may not have eaten him. Aogiri has kidnapped numerous wounded Investigators and will be experimenting on them. And finally, Koma and Irimi were last seen headed to V14, where Arima later slaughters a large number of Ghouls. It is unknown whether or not they were among the dead.]]




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* In ''Anime/EsOtherwise'', [[spoiler: Kai Kudo]] is not seen alive or dead after the explosion in the final episode.
* In ''Anime/GaoGaiGar FINAL'', [[spoiler: The entire crew, minus Mamoru and Kaido, is left in a collapsing universe, sacrificing their only (known) way out to save the kids.]]
* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' concludes with considerable ambiguity concerning the fates of several characters. [[spoiler: Hide is considering a missing person, and last seen with a hallucinating Kaneki who may or may not have eaten him. Aogiri has kidnapped numerous wounded Investigators and will be experimenting on them. And finally, Koma and Irimi were last seen headed to V14, where Arima later slaughters a large number of Ghouls. It is unknown whether or not they were among the dead.]]






* Hooded Justice from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' simply vanished from public view. Ozymandias theorizes that The Comedian killed him, but the truth may never be known.

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* Hooded Justice from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' simply vanished from public view. Ozymandias theorizes that The the Comedian killed him, but the truth may never be known.
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* ''Film/TheHobbit'': Thráin, as mentioned in the page quote. Subverted in a deleted scene from ''The Desolation of Smaug'', where we learn Thráin was captured by Sauron; Gandalf finds him shortly before he dies.



** The theatrical cut of ''Return of the King'' does not show leader of orcs, Gothmog's ultimate fate. He is last seen backing away while soldiers of Rohann approach. It is implied he is killed as they start killing orcs. Ultimately subverted when the extended edition got released and it made it clear that Gothmog died during the battle (though it was much later than theatrical version made us believe)

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** The theatrical cut of ''Return of the King'' does not show leader of orcs, Gothmog's ultimate fate. He is last seen backing away while soldiers of Rohann approach. It is implied he is killed as they start killing orcs. Ultimately subverted when the extended edition got released and it made it clear that Gothmog died during the battle (though it was much later than theatrical version made us believe)believe).
** ''Film/TheHobbit'': Thráin, as mentioned in the page quote. Subverted in a deleted scene from ''The Desolation of Smaug'', where we learn Thráin was captured by Sauron; Gandalf finds him shortly before he dies.



* In Creator/HGWells' ''Literature/TheInvisibleMan'', Colonel Adye is being held at gunpoint by Griffin. An attempt by Adye to grab the gun ends in either it going off or Griffin just flat out shooting him (Wells is unclear). He is described as falling down and not getting up. Kemp later tells Adye's men, "He's killed Adye. Shot him anyhow." So even Kemp, who witnessed the actual shooting, is uncertain if Adye is dead or not. He's never brought up again after this, until the epilogue involving Thomas Marvel; Adye is mentioned as having questioned him about the whereabouts of Griffin's notebooks, but Wells isn't clear if this happened before or after the shooting.



* In Creator/HGWells' ''Literature/TheInvisibleMan'', Colonel Adye is being held at gunpoint by Griffin. An attempt by Adye to grab the gun ends in either it going off or Griffin just flat out shooting him (Wells is unclear). He is described as falling down and not getting up. Kemp later tells Adye's men, "He's killed Adye. Shot him anyhow." So even Kemp, who witnessed the actual shooting, is uncertain if Adye is dead or not. He's never brought up again after this, until the epilogue involving Thomas Marvel; Adye is mentioned as having questioned him about the whereabouts of Griffin's notebooks, but Wells isn't clear if this happened before or after the shooting.












* A lot of the hunters in ''VideoGame/{{Evolve}}'' fall victim to this. Markov, Hank, and Val may or may not die [[spoiler: facing the Phantom Wraith]], Parnell, Sunny, Emet, and Bucket might [[spoiler: die or remain trapped in the monsters' dimension after the final battle]], and Torvald, Jack, Lazarus, Slim, and Crow never had their roles in the story finalized and may have died anywhere from their time on Shear to the final battle.
* [[spoiler:Volga]] in ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors''. [[spoiler:While he does collapse after his final defeat, he doesn't have a unique death cutscene like Wizzro and Cia have, nor does the game ever outright ''say'' he's dead, leaving his ultimate fate up in the air.]]
* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', at the end of ''Dawn of the Dragon'' Malefor is pulled into a crystal core by spirits of ancient dragons, and is never seen again. Then rays of light are shown shining from the core as it breaks apart. Was Malefor [[AndIMustScream sealed inside the core forever]] or was he [[TechnicolorDeath destroyed inside it]]? Or was he simply DraggedOffToHell? No mention is given as to whether Malefor appeared or didn't appear in the book that gets a page for every dragon that dies.



* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', at the end of ''Dawn of the Dragon'' Malefor is pulled into a crystal core by spirits of ancient dragons, and is never seen again. Then rays of light are shown shining from the core as it breaks apart. Was Malefor [[AndIMustScream sealed inside the core forever]] or was he [[TechnicolorDeath destroyed inside it]]? Or was he simply DraggedOffToHell? No mention is given as to whether Malefor appeared or didn't appear in the book that gets a page for every dragon that dies.



* [[spoiler:Volga]] in ''HyruleWarriors''. [[spoiler:While he does collapse after his final defeat, he doesn't have a unique death cutscene like Wizzro and Cia have, nor does the game ever outright ''say'' he's dead, leaving his ultimate fate up in the air.]]
* A lot of the hunters in ''VideoGame/{{Evolve}}'' fall victim to this. Markov, Hank, and Val may or may not die [[spoiler: facing the Phantom Wraith]], Parnell, Sunny, Emet, and Bucket might [[spoiler: die or remain trapped in the monsters' dimension after the final battle]], and Torvald, Jack, Lazarus, Slim, and Crow never had their roles in the story finalized and may have died anywhere from their time on Shear to the final battle.




* ''WebComic/GirlGenius:'' Princess Zulenna. The last the reader has heard of her, Baron Wulfenbach orders her to be revived after being stabbed by Bangladesh [=DuPree=]. In-universe, that was somewhere around three years ago; out of universe, she died in August 2004. Also Agatha's father and uncle, who disappeared at separate times years before the comic starts.

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\n* ''WebComic/GirlGenius:'' ''WebComic/GirlGenius'': Princess Zulenna. The last the reader has heard of her, Baron Wulfenbach orders her to be revived after being stabbed by Bangladesh [=DuPree=]. In-universe, that was somewhere around three years ago; out of universe, she died in August 2004. Also Agatha's father and uncle, who disappeared at separate times years before the comic starts.









* Invoked at the end of ''WesternAnimation/{{Justice League}} Unlimited'':
-->'''Batman:''' I doubt that either of them[[note]]Lex Luthor and Darkseid[[/note]] died.\\
'''Superman:''' We ''saw'' it this time.\\
'''Flash:''' [[GenreSavvy You saw it last time, too.]]



* Invoked at the end of ''WesternAnimation/{{Justice League}} Unlimited'':
-->'''Batman:''' I doubt that either of them[[note]]Lex Luthor and Darkseid[[/note]] died.\\
'''Superman:''' We ''saw'' it this time.\\
'''Flash:''' [[GenreSavvy You saw it last time, too.]]
28th Mar '17 7:25:31 AM Typhon
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* ''PicnicAtHangingRock'' deliberately leaves the ultimate fate of the missing schoolgirls and their teacher a mystery, with only few and contradictory clues. Although one of them is found bruised but alive after a week in the wild, she has no memory of what happened to her or the others.

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* ''PicnicAtHangingRock'' ''Film/PicnicAtHangingRock'' deliberately leaves the ultimate fate of the missing schoolgirls and their teacher a mystery, with only few and contradictory clues. Although one of them is found bruised but alive after a week in the wild, she has no memory of what happened to her or the others.
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