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30th Jun '16 3:31:12 PM Laevatein
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** If your first exposure to the Japanese ''{{jidai geki}}'' genre is from reading up on George Lucas' inspirations for ''Star Wars'', actually watching a few of the films that inspired him can be a bit of a shock. [[note]] The very samurai-influenced Jedi got their name from ''jidai geki'' (literally "artifact of history" or "period piece", the Japanese term for an EpicFilm about samurai). Also, several "elder samurai" characters from classic ''jidai geki'' films (Kambei Shimada of ''Film/TheSevenSamurai'' and Hanshiro Tsugomo of ''Film/{{Harakiri}}'', in particular) can be pinpointed as likely inspirations for the character of Obi-Wan Kenobi. And Creator/AkiraKurosawa's leading man Creator/ToshiroMifune was allegedly Lucas' first choice for the role of Obi-Wan.[[/note]] The most well-known ''jidai geki'' films in the West had more than their share of action and spectacle, but many of them were also {{Deconstruction}}s of the glory days of FeudalJapan, portraying the twilight years of the samurai and openly questioning whether the lofty ideals of bushido had any real meaning in the modern world. ''Star Wars'' was (among many other things) a LighterAndSofter tribute to the work of filmmakers like Creator/AkiraKurosawa and Masaki Kobayashi, emphasizing the romanticism of their films while downplaying the tragedy and cynicism.

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** If your first exposure to the Japanese ''{{jidai geki}}'' genre is from reading up on George Lucas' inspirations for ''Star Wars'', actually watching a few of the films that inspired him can be a bit of a shock. [[note]] The very samurai-influenced Jedi got their name from ''jidai geki'' (literally "artifact of history" or "period piece", the Japanese term for an EpicFilm about samurai). Also, several "elder samurai" characters from classic ''jidai geki'' films (Kambei Shimada of ''Film/TheSevenSamurai'' and Hanshiro Tsugomo of ''Film/{{Harakiri}}'', in particular) can be pinpointed as likely inspirations for the character of Obi-Wan Kenobi. And Creator/AkiraKurosawa's leading man Creator/ToshiroMifune was allegedly Lucas' first choice for the role of Obi-Wan.[[/note]] The most well-known ''jidai geki'' films in the West had more than their share of action and spectacle, but many of them were also {{Deconstruction}}s of the glory days of FeudalJapan, portraying the twilight years of the samurai and openly questioning whether the lofty ideals of bushido had any real meaning in the modern world.world (especially since WorldWarII had ended only a decade or so beforehand). ''Star Wars'' was (among many other things) a LighterAndSofter tribute to the work of filmmakers like Creator/AkiraKurosawa and Masaki Kobayashi, emphasizing the romanticism of their films while downplaying the tragedy and cynicism.
29th Jun '16 9:54:32 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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** If your first exposure to the Japanese ''{{jidai geki}}'' genre is from reading up on George Lucas' inspirations for ''Star Wars'', actually watching a few of the films that inspired him can be a bit of a shock. [[note]] The very samurai-influenced Jedi got their name from ''jidai geki'' (literally "artifact of history" or "period piece", the Japanese term for an EpicFilm about samurai). Also, several "elder samurai" characters from classic ''jidai geki'' films (Kambei Shimada of ''Film/TheSevenSamurai'' and Hanshiro Tsugomo of ''Film/{{Harakiri}}'', in particular) can be pinpointed as likely inspirations for the character of Obi-Wan Kenobi. And Creator/AkiraKurosawa's leading man Creator/ToshiroMifune was allegedly Lucas' first choice for the role of Obi-Wan.[[/note]] The most well-known ''jidai geki'' films in the West had more than their share of action and spectacle, but many of them were also {{Deconstruction}}s of the glory days of FeudalJapan, portraying the twilight years of the samurai and openly questioning whether the lofty ideals of bushido had any real meaning in the modern world. ''Star Wars'' was (among many other things) a LighterAndSofter tribute to the work of filmmakers like Creator/AkiraKurosawa and Masaki Kobayashi, emphasizing the romanticism of their films while downplaying the tragedy and cynicism.
27th Jun '16 12:55:51 AM Ramidel
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* ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'' predates both the MagicalGirlfriend genre and the HaremGenre as we know them, but looks like a parody of both genres now that they're established. Ataru is a {{Jerkass}} HaremSeeker and unabashed pervert who wants every girl ''except'' the one girl who can actually stand him, and the number two girl actually does the smart thing and books out of their relationship fairly early rather than putting up with Ataru's games. On Lum's part, she likes him being lecherous but wants a bit of that lechery for herself, is a hot-tempered woman who's not above using ShockAndAwe to punish him when his gaze strays too far, and from Ataru's perspective, is more of a pain in the ass than an actual LoveInterest.

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* ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'' predates both the MagicalGirlfriend genre and the HaremGenre as we know them, but looks like a parody of both genres now that they're established. Ataru is a {{Jerkass}} HaremSeeker and unabashed pervert who wants every girl ''except'' the one girl who can actually stand him, and the number two girl actually does the smart thing and books out of their relationship fairly early rather than putting up with Ataru's games. On Lum's part, she likes him being lecherous but wants a bit of that lechery for herself, is a hot-tempered woman who's not above using ShockAndAwe to punish him when his gaze strays too far, and from Ataru's perspective, is more of [[CantLiveWithThemCantLiveWithoutThem a pain in the ass ass]] than an actual LoveInterest.LoveInterest, at least at first.
27th Jun '16 12:53:58 AM Ramidel
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* ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'' predates both the MagicalGirlfriend genre and the HaremGenre as we know them, but looks like a parody of both genres now that they're established. Ataru is a {{Jerkass}} HaremSeeker and unabashed pervert who wants every girl ''except'' the one girl who can actually stand him, and the number two girl actually does the smart thing and books out of their relationship fairly early rather than putting up with Ataru's games. On Lum's part, she likes him being lecherous but wants a bit of that lechery for herself, is a hot-tempered woman who's not above using ShockAndAwe to punish him when his gaze strays too far, and from Ataru's perspective, is more of a pain in the ass than an actual LoveInterest.
19th Jun '16 2:27:40 PM Ramidel
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* ''VideoGame/DoubleDragonI'' was the first BeatEmUp to include CoOpMultiplayer. It was also a legendary ''subversion'' of the trope. Two brothers are fighting to save the DamselInDistress...[[spoiler: but only one can get her, so after they bring down the bad guys, they fight to the death to be the one who gets to claim her.]]
18th Jun '16 7:58:16 AM poi99
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* How about an RPG where the characters are unchosen anonymous schlubs (of any race, class, or gender), where AnyoneCanDie and ''any'' death (even outside of combat) can risk a FinalDeath? And you do not have to fight [[EverythingTryingToKillYou every encounter you run into]], as there are actually good monsters that do not mind your company? Where you may luck into some of the best equipment early, and some of said equipment (including the InfinityPlusOneSword) can break at any time? And there are no [[UselessUsefulSpell useless spells]] in the game? And the FinalBoss does not have thousands of HP but is really a SquishyWizard not much stronger than (and as vulnerable as) an individual member of your party? (His minions may be trouble, though.) This game is ''VideoGame/{{Wizardry}}'', one of the first [=RPGs=] ever written.


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* ''VideoGame/{{Wizardry}}'', one of the first [=RPGs=] ever written, doesn't require you to fight [[EverythingTryingToKillYou every encounter you run into]], as there are actually good monsters that do not mind your company. It is also possible to luck into some of the best equipment early, some of said equipment (including the InfinityPlusOneSword) can break at any time, and the SquishyWizard trope turns out to apply to characters who are generally immune to it, not least of which is ''the last boss in the game.''
5th Jun '16 9:52:57 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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** Music/TheNotoriousBIG definitely helped lay the seeds for the mid-90s to 2000s dominance of GlamRap with his album ''ReadyToDie'', and songs like "Big Poppa" and "Juicy" could lay claim to being some of the first major GlamRap songs. The same album also portrayed Biggie's "ashy to classy" drug dealer character as incredibly paranoid("Everyday Struggle"), driven by grinding poverty("Things Done Changed") and outright guilt-ridden and suicidal(''When I die, fuck it, I'm gonna go to hell/cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell'' from "Suicidal Thoughts").
** Likewise, Biggie's prodigy Music/{{JayZ}} definitely demonstrated this on his debut album ''Reasonable Doubt'', which portrays his [[AManOfWealthAndTaste man of wealth and taste]] in a much more LonelyAtTheTop way, with an immense price paid by both himself("Regrets") and others("Dead Presidents II", "D'Evils"). Even the song on that album that most strongly sounds like GlamRap, "Ain't No Nigga", plays with a lot of the player tropes, making it highly ambiguous as to whether Jay-Z or Foxy Brown(who provides the female point of view) is the real player in the relationship.
** Even Dr. Dre and Music/SnoopDogg, who largely embraced these tropes in their early records, get in on it. Dr. Dre's "Lil' Ghetto Boy" ends with KarmicRetribution when Snoop Dogg's character is in jail and Dre's character gets shot in a robbery gone bad. Snoop would go further in each direction - on ''Doggystyle'', the same record that gave us "Gin & Juice", Snoop portrays many GlamRap tropes as the product of a literal DealWithTheDevil on "Murder Was The Case".
* In 1991, JustD became the first mainstream group to rap in Swedish. Their self-ironic style with a vocabulary more experimental than most Swedish hip hop acts today, deconstructed a genre which hardly existed yet.

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** Music/TheNotoriousBIG definitely was arguably the TropeMaker for the genre, and helped to lay the seeds for the mid-90s to 2000s its dominance of GlamRap from the mid-'90s through the 2000s with his album ''ReadyToDie'', and songs ''Music/ReadyToDie''. Songs like "Big Poppa" and "Juicy" could lay claim to being some of the first major GlamRap songs. The same album also portrayed Biggie's "ashy to classy" drug dealer character as incredibly paranoid("Everyday paranoid ("Everyday Struggle"), driven by grinding poverty("Things poverty ("Things Done Changed") Changed"), and outright guilt-ridden and suicidal(''When suicidal ("Suicidal Thoughts", which contains the line "when I die, fuck it, I'm gonna go to hell/cause hell/'cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell'' from "Suicidal Thoughts").tell").
** Likewise, Biggie's protege Music/JayZ demonstrated this on his debut album ''Reasonable Doubt'', which portrays his [[AManOfWealthAndTaste man of wealth and taste]] in a much more LonelyAtTheTop way, with an immense price paid by both himself ("Regrets") and others ("Dead Presidents II", "D'Evils"). Even the song on that album that most strongly sounds like GlamRap, "Ain't No Nigga", plays with a lot of the player tropes, making it highly ambiguous as to whether Jay-Z or Foxy Brown (who provides the female point of view) is the real player in the relationship.

** Likewise, Biggie's prodigy Music/{{JayZ}} definitely demonstrated this on his debut album ''Reasonable Doubt'', which portrays his [[AManOfWealthAndTaste man of wealth and taste]] in a much more LonelyAtTheTop way, with an immense price paid by both himself("Regrets") and others("Dead Presidents II", "D'Evils"). Even the song on that album that most strongly sounds like GlamRap, "Ain't No Nigga", plays with a lot of the player tropes, making it highly ambiguous as to whether Jay-Z or Foxy Brown(who provides the female point of view) is the real player in the relationship.
** Even Dr. Dre Music/DrDre and Music/SnoopDogg, who largely embraced these tropes in their early records, get in on it. Dr. Dre's "Lil' Ghetto Boy" ends with KarmicRetribution when Snoop Dogg's character is in jail and Dre's character gets shot in a robbery gone bad. Snoop would go further in each direction - -- on ''Doggystyle'', the same record that gave us "Gin & Juice", Snoop portrays many GlamRap tropes as the product of a literal DealWithTheDevil on "Murder Was The Case".
* In 1991, JustD Music/JustD became the first mainstream group to rap in Swedish. Their self-ironic style with a vocabulary more experimental than most Swedish hip hop acts today, deconstructed a genre which hardly existed yet.
4th Jun '16 1:05:51 PM Ezclee4050
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* Bill Haley. Look at that [[DawsonCasting thirtysomething]] clown, with his dweeby bow tie and stupid curled cowlick, trying to convince us hes cool. [[PretenderDiss What a poser]]...Wait, you say he ''invented'' modern pop music?

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* Bill Haley. Look at that [[DawsonCasting thirtysomething]] clown, with his dweeby bow tie and stupid curled cowlick, cowlick [[note]]which he wore so people wouldn't notice his misaligned left eye[[/note]], trying to convince us hes cool. [[PretenderDiss What a poser]]...Wait, you say he ''invented'' modern pop music?
3rd Jun '16 10:33:28 AM Generality
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** The Super Saiyan form helped start the concept of people with a SuperMode, but is shown in a very nuanced light; while it's not exactly a SuperpoweredEvilSide, it often takes a toll on the sanity or morality of its user, and when it's first attained, it's not clear whether or not it's a good thing.

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** The Super Saiyan form helped start the concept of people with a SuperMode, but is shown in a very nuanced light; while it's not exactly a SuperpoweredEvilSide, it often takes a toll on the sanity or morality of its user, and when it's first attained, it's not clear whether or not it's a good thing. Despite this, it's ultimately a lot less taxing than most examples of the trope, which tend to have a time limit, conditions that must be met to activate, or unlock a more dangerous SuperpoweredEvilSide. By contrast, once Goku gets the hang of being a Super Saiyan, it effects a permanent, massive amplifier to his base power at no real cost. This has the result that all the human characters in the story are left behind with [[CantCatchUp no possibility of making up the difference]].
31st May '16 8:50:16 AM JoeMerl
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** Moses is also an {{Inversion}} of [[LostOrphanedRoyalty various]] [[ReallyRoyalReveal royalty]] [[HiddenBackupPrince tropes]]: instead of a prince raised as a peasant, he's a peasant raised as a prince. While a [[RightfulKingReturns prince's return from exile]] saves a kingdom, Moses' return saves one society (the Hebrews) but severely harms the one that raised him.
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