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25th Jul '16 2:29:25 AM PaulA
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* At the end of ''The Curse of Literature/{{Chalion}}'', [[spoiler: Cazaril, being [[ImpoverishedPatrician landless]] and having just been replaced as Iselle's secretary, cites this among a number of other protests when he is betrothed to the new Royina's lady in waiting Beatriz. Iselle simply points out that she is making the post of Chancellor a salaried position... [[ComicallyMissingThePoint wherupon Cazaril starts suggesting useful candidates]].]]

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* At the end of ''The Curse of Literature/{{Chalion}}'', [[spoiler: Cazaril, ''Literature/TheCurseOfChalion'', [[spoiler:Cazaril, being [[ImpoverishedPatrician landless]] and having just been replaced as Iselle's secretary, cites this among a number of other protests when he is betrothed to the new Royina's lady in waiting Beatriz. Iselle simply points out that she is making the post of Chancellor a salaried position... [[ComicallyMissingThePoint wherupon Cazaril starts suggesting useful candidates]].]]
23rd Jul '16 7:31:47 PM Goldfritha
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*** Wentworth had not saved anything from his naval career, which meant he was entirely relying on his position to enable him to marry.

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*** In the BackStory, Wentworth had not saved anything from his naval career, which meant he was entirely relying on his position to enable him to marry. This is what led Lady Russell to talk Anne out of the engagement. In the current day of the novel, he has saved enough and is well-off. [[spoiler:Indeed, at the very end, he realizes that if he had written to Anne a year after their engagement was broken, when he had made a promising beginning to a fortune, they could have reconciled then.]]
23rd Jul '16 7:27:38 PM Goldfritha
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Sometimes the obstacle to marriage is just plain money: The man cannot earn enough -- or have an independent source of income -- to support a family. This is a trope one with a long history -- mostly in settings where a woman leaves her parents' home for that of her husband, but also where single adults can live in dormitories and the like, but living in a residence of your own is expected for married couples.

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Sometimes the obstacle to marriage is just plain money: The man cannot earn enough -- or have an independent source of income -- to support a family. This is a trope one with has a long history -- mostly in settings where a woman leaves her parents' home for that of her husband, but also where single adults can live in dormitories and the like, but living in a residence of your own is expected for married couples.
3rd Jun '16 4:56:01 PM ultimomant
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* Played with in AKnightsTale. When William's false-knighthood is about to be publicly revealed, his noble-born love interest asks him to run away (rather than see him arrested and possibly executed) and insists they can live a happy life together as peasants. He refuses, [[BecomingTheMask mostly because he now sees himself as a TRUE knight]], but also because it would mean ''lowering her'' to living like a peasant "with the pigs inside the house in winter". If he can't successfully raise himself to her level of society, he won't allow her to lower herself into his.

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* Played with in AKnightsTale.''Film/AKnightsTale''. When William's false-knighthood is about to be publicly revealed, his noble-born love interest asks him to run away (rather than see him arrested and possibly executed) and insists they can live a happy life together as peasants. He refuses, [[BecomingTheMask mostly because he now sees himself as a TRUE knight]], but also because it would mean ''lowering her'' to living like a peasant "with the pigs inside the house in winter". If he can't successfully raise himself to her level of society, he won't allow her to lower herself into his.
19th May '16 2:45:23 PM LongTallShorty64
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*In ''Film/TheMarryingKind'', Chet Keefer doesnít have a job due do an injury, and his wife Florence has to get one. He of course, didnít want her to, but there was nothing else they could do. Mind you, this is during the 1950s when the norm was that the husband holds the job while the wife manages household affairs.
25th Apr '16 7:59:11 PM MsChibi
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* Still TruthInTelevision in places where marriages are typically [[ArrangedMarriage business transactions between the prospective bride's parents and the prospective groom and/or his family]], where love and companionship [[MarriageBeforeRomance come later]] (or not at all), and HomosocialHeterosexuality is the norm.
18th Mar '16 12:30:20 PM LadyNorbert
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** In ''Literature/SenseAndSensibility'', Colonel Brandon's generosity and reconciling with Edward's mother are needed for Edward and Elinor to marry.

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** In ''Literature/SenseAndSensibility'', Colonel Brandon's generosity and reconciling a reconciliation with Edward's mother are needed for Edward and Elinor to marry.



*** the HappyEnding is brought about because a man who long loved Eleanor inherited a title and so could maintain a wife, which made her father so happy that he agreed to let Henry marry Catherine.

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*** the The HappyEnding is brought about because a man who long loved Eleanor inherited a title and so could maintain a wife, which made her father so happy that he agreed to let Henry marry Catherine.



* In the PerspectiveFlip novel ''Mr. Darcy's Diary,'' which explores ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' from Darcy's point of view, this is given as the reason why Darcy helps Wickham get a new position in the military. Wickham says he has to have some kind of post in order to support a wife, so if Darcy wants him to marry Lydia, he'd best help.



* In Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Literature/BeautyARetellingOfBeautyAndTheBeast'', one of Beauty's sisters is in love with a man who wants to leave the city and become a [[TheBlacksmith blacksmith]], which would never let him get money enough for a merchant's daughter. When their family is ruined, he pays his suit and tells her father that they can all come and live at the house he can get.

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* In Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Literature/BeautyARetellingOfBeautyAndTheBeast'', one of Beauty's sisters is in love with a man who wants to leave the city and become a [[TheBlacksmith blacksmith]], which would never let him get money enough for a wealthy merchant's daughter. When their family is ruined, he pays his suit and tells her father that they can all come and live at the house he can get. (It helps that the girls' father likes him anyway, and might have consented to the match regardless.)



* Prominent in ''GoneWithTheWind'' after the war. Alex Fontaine wants to marry Dimity Munroe but honor prevents him from asking her until he can support her. Frank Kennedy holds off on marrying Suellen for the same reasons. Scarlett at one point bemoans that there will be a lot of old maids in the South because of this trope.

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* Prominent in ''GoneWithTheWind'' after the war. Alex Fontaine wants to marry Dimity Munroe Munroe, but honor prevents him from asking her until he can support her. Frank Kennedy holds off on marrying Suellen for the same reasons. Scarlett at one point bemoans that there will be a lot of old maids in the South because of this trope.



* In Creator/StephanieBurgis's ''[[Literature/KatIncorrigible A Most Improper Magick]]'', Sir Neville and Mr. Collingwood are brothers, but since Sir Neville inherited all, he's the only eligible one.

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* In Creator/StephanieBurgis's Stephanie Burgis's ''[[Literature/KatIncorrigible A Most Improper Magick]]'', Sir Neville and Mr. Collingwood are brothers, but since Sir Neville inherited all, he's the only eligible one.



* A sad and -- unusually -- gender-flipped occurrence can be found in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' with a bit of looking: there's a man called Ranmir [[DrowningMySorrows drinking by himself]] in Winterhold after his fiancee disappeared, seemingly having run off with another man. The innkeeper, worried about the man, asks the player to try and find out what happened to Ranmir's fiancee. It turns out that she left to try and find a valuable artefact to make enough money to support both of them, but was killed before she found it.

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* A sad and -- unusually -- gender-flipped occurrence can be found in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' with a bit of looking: there's a man called Ranmir [[DrowningMySorrows drinking by himself]] in Winterhold after his fiancee disappeared, seemingly having run off with another man. The innkeeper, worried about the man, asks the player to try and find out what happened to Ranmir's fiancee. It turns out that she left to try and find a valuable artefact artifact to make enough money to support both of them, but was killed before she found it.
8th Mar '16 5:57:07 PM Paranoia
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* Played with in AKnightsTale. When William's false-knighthood is about to be publicly revealed, his noble-born love interest asks him to run away (rather than see him arrested and possibly executed) and insists they can live a happy life together as peasants. He refuses, [[BecomingTheMask mostly because he now sees himself as a TRUE knight]], but also because it would mean ''lowering her'' to living like a peasant "with the pigs inside the house in winter". If he can't successfully raise himself to her level of society, he won't allow her to lower herself into his.
22nd Feb '16 4:57:42 PM eroock
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->''If a young man chooses to fall in love when he has next to nothing to live upon, trouble is sure to follow.''

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->''If ->''"If a young man chooses to fall in love when he has next to nothing to live upon, trouble is sure to follow.''"''
14th Dec '15 12:51:26 PM roxana
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** ''The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club'', the aged General Fentiman's original will left his married grandsom George what little money he had because his older brother Robert wasn't married and had his commission. Then the old General finds himself the heir to a large fortune. By now George has become a ShellshockedSoldier and his grandfather seriously considers leaving half the money to his wife Sheila instead. [[spoiler:Rober later explained that he found the old General's body when he was coming back to point out to his grandfather that leaving the money to George so that he could support his wife might help stabilize him.]]

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** ''The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club'', the aged General Fentiman's original will left his married grandsom grandson George what little money he had because his older brother Robert wasn't married and had his commission. Then the old General finds himself the heir to a large fortune. By now George has become a ShellshockedSoldier ShellShockedSoldier and his grandfather seriously considers leaving half the money to his wife Sheila instead. [[spoiler:Rober [[spoiler: Rober later explained that he found the old General's body when he was coming back to point out to his grandfather that leaving the money to George so that he could support his wife might help stabilize him.]]
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