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Part re-imagining, part AdaptationDistillation, the Ultimate line was originally an attempt by MarvelComics to tempt readers into comics without being scared off by the [[ContinuityPorn decades]] of BackStory and {{Retcon}}s in the official universe.This attempt was launched in November, 2000. This had already been attempted by various other experiments - the MarvelComics2 comic line, TheNewUniverse, [[DorkAge Heroes Reborn]], etc., but none of those met with the success the Ultimate Marvel line did, except for ''Comicbook/{{Spider-Girl}}'' (the original ''[=MC2=]'' title, and via multiple relaunches the only survivor of the line), which became the longest running [[{{Spider-Man}} Spidey]] spin-off ever.

As basically an experiment which does not affect the main universe, changes and revelations are more permanent, and the universe as a whole has plot lines and continuity more neatly intertwined; notably, the connections to the Weapon X project from ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}'' and the history of the [[SuperSoldier Super-Soldier]] [[SuperSerum Serum]]/CaptainAmerica from ''TheUltimates''. As the line has grown and accumulated its own continuity, its focus has shifted from distilling old stories to making all kinds of [[ShockingSwerve sweeping changes]], like killing X-Men's sacred cows or replacing Peter Parker as Spider-Man.

The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[ComicBook/SpiderMen A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth.

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Major series in the Ultimate Marvel Universe are:
* Vol. 1:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''
** ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}''
** ''TheUltimates'': The only one that's not just a remake of its classic version, it re-imagines Comicbook/TheAvengers as a metahuman strike force under ComicBook/{{SHIELD}}. Three miniseries.
** ''UltimateFantasticFour''
* Vol. 2:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'': Peter Parker is revealed to be NotQuiteDead... [[ShootTheShaggyDogStory and then dies for real.]]
** ''[[{{Ultimate X-Men}} Ultimate X]]'': With key players dead and mutancy made illegal after ''{{Ultimatum}}'', mutants are scattered, leaderless, and trying to survive. Amounted to one miniseries thanks to ScheduleSlip.
** ''[[TheUltimates New Ultimates]]'' (One miniseries)
** ''Ultimate Avengers'': Spinoff of ''TheUltimates'' featuring a black-ops team.
*** Near the end, the latter two merged into ''Avengers vs. New Ultimates'', as the two teams were manipulated into fighting each other.
* Vol. 3:
** ''TheUltimates''
** ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}'': Mutants are regrouping, but the secrets of the mutant gene's origin are going to get out and cause problems.
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'': With Peter Parker dead, a new character has taken up the mantle.
* Vol. 4:
** [[spoiler:''Miles Morales: ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'']]
** [[spoiler:''All-New Ultimates'': No relation to the previous SHIELD-sponsored team; this is a group of the Ultimate U's teen heroes; Miles Morales' Spider-Man, Bombshell, Kitty Pryde, Cloak, and Dagger.]]
** [[spoiler:''Ultimate ComicBook/{{FF}}'': As in "Future Foundation", not "Fantastic Four" (though it does have four members); a team of {{Science Hero}}es (Sue Storm, Iron Man, the Falcon, and Machine Man).]]

Note that technically, the titles of vol. 2 and 3 have been renamed from ''"Ultimate _____"'' to ''"Ultimate Comics: _____"''; we're just sticking with the original format here for convenience (face it, titles like ''"Ultimate Comics: New Ultimates"'' are redundant and kind of a mouthful).

[[folder:Miniseries and Events]]
''Vol. 1'':
* ''Ultimate Marvel Team-Up'', a series where Spider-Man teamed up with various Ultimate heroes; it was more episodic and light than the main ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' series. At least partly CanonDiscontinuity, some elements are referenced by later series but other elements are contradicted.
* ''Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra'' and ''Ultimate Elektra: Devil's Due''.
* ''Ultimate Adventures'', an odd book about a Franchise/{{Batman}} parody that lost a competition to get upgraded to an ongoing. Not officially CanonDisContinuity, but don't expect anyone to mention it outside of Official Handbooks to Ultimate Marvel. It was part of the infamous "U-Decide" event which also involved PeterDavid's ''[[CaptainMarVell Captain Marvel]]'' and Bill Jemas' ''{{Marville}}''.
* ''Ultimate War'', an ''X-Men/Ultimates'' crossover. Magneto shows up after being thought dead, thanks to the fact that Xavier mindwiped him instead of killing him. The government ain't happy, and they send out the Ultimates.
* ''Ultimate Six'', a ''Spider-Man/Ultimates'' crossover. Spidey's Rogues Gallery escapes imprisonment (forming an Ultimate take on the Sinister Six) and they go after him with the Ultimates in pursuit.
* The ''Ultimate Galactus'' trilogy, consisting of ''Ultimate Nightmare'', ''Ultimate Secret'', and ''Ultimate Extinction''. As you might guess from its name, the Eater of Worlds is headed towards Earth and the Ultimates, X-Men and Fantastic Four have to band together to drive it off.
** ''Ultimate Vision'', a miniseries spun off from ''Ultimate Galactus''.
* ''Ultimate X4'', an ''X-Men/Fantastic Four'' crossover. Someone steals Cerebro from the X-Men and frames the Four for it.
* ''Ultimate Iron Man'', two miniseries detailing the character's origin. CanonDiscontinuity thanks to Mark Millar, who later established that this was a fictional in-universe TV show so that he could go in other directions with Tony's past.
* ''Ultimate Power'', a crossover between Ultimate Marvel and ''SupremePower''.
* ''Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk'', which got out two issues and then went on hiatus for ''four years''.
* ''Ultimate Human'', billed as Iron Man versus TheHulk, and derailed somewhat by the appearance of the Ultimate Leader.
* ''Ultimate Origins'', which expands on the MetaOrigin and the connections between various forces and mysteries in UltimateMarvel.
* ''{{Ultimatum}}'', which was supposed to be a WhamEpisode for every series, after which they were all canceled (Though ''Spider-Man'' immediately got relaunched, and ''Ultimates'' and ''X-Men'' soon got SequelSeries). To start with, [[KillEmAll millions of people and several known superhumans are dead.]]
** ''Ultimatum: [[TitleRequiem Requiem]]'' specials (''Spider-Man: Requiem'', ''Fantastic Four: Requiem'', and ''X-Men: Requiem''), ending their respective series before the ''Ultimate Comics'' reboot.
''Vol. 2:''
* ''Ultimate Armor Wars'', an adaptation of the classic Iron Man story, it features Tony Stark trying to recover an item and discovers that someone's stolen his Iron Man tech and sold it to various criminals that now employ it.
* The ''Ultimate Doomsday'' trilogy, a Spider-Man/Fantastic Four crossover consisting of ''Ultimate Enemy'', ''Ultimate Mystery'', and ''Ultimate Doom''. Superhumans and scientific installations have been targeted by a new mystery BigBad.
* ''Ultimate Thor'', the origin story of the god of Thunder.
* ''Ultimate Captain America'': The Captain America of WorldWarII vs. the Captain America of TheVietnamWar. FIGHT!
* ''[[TonightSomeoneDies The Death of Spider-Man]]'', technically a ''Spider-Man/Avengers Vs. New Ultimates'' crossover [[RedSkiesCrossover but the non-Spider-Man characters are only involved in a single fight scene. Like in ''Ultimate Six'', Spidey's enemies got out and targetted him. Unlike in ''Six'', Spidey had been injured taking a bullet for Captain America]] in the Avengers/Ultimates fight. He was able to fight his enemies off and protect Aunt May, but at the cost of his life.
** ''Ultimate Fallout: Spider-Man No More'': As the world mourns Peter Parker, the superhero community starts considering and planning for the future...
''Vol. 3'':
* ''Ultimate Hawkeye'': Tying in to ''The Ultimates''; Nick Fury sends Hawkeye, the Hulk, Karen Grant, Firestar and Guardian to investigate and retrieve a super-powering 'Serum' developed by the S.E.A.R. (South-East Asian Republic) military.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'': New Spider-Man Miles Morales comes face to face with the Spider-Man of [[MarvelUniverse another universe -- one where it's still Peter Parker doing the webslinging]].
* ''Divided We Fall'' and ''United We Stand'': A crossover affecting all the Ultimate Comics titles, the story involves a divided United States after Washington D.C. is annihilated and Sentinels begin to run rampant in the southwestern states. As a result, the entire nation is divided into smaller divisions as America is on the brink of collapsing. The second half of the story is covered in ''United We Stand'', where Captain America returns from self-imposed exile and is subsequently voted in as the President of the United States.
* ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Hunger and Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand]]'': the second crossover with the MarvelUniverse. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', Galactus has made his way to the Ultimate Universe. What can the heroes of the Ultimate Earth do to stop this force of nature?
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!!The Ultimate Marvel titles provide examples of:
* AdaptationalVillainy: [[spoiler: BlackWidow; in the comic, she starts out as a villain, but ends up having a HeelFaceTurn; in Ultimate, as a reversal, she starts as a heroine and turns out to be a spy from Russia.]]
** [[spoiler: Reed Richards]], who turns out to be the Ultimate Enemy in the trilogy of the same name.
* AnyoneCanDie: and unlike the mainstream universe, it's permanent. Notable examples include Ultimatum and [[spoiler: Death of Spider Man]]
* BreakingTheFellowship: Happened to the X-Men and Fantastic Four in ''{{Ultimatum}}'' due to the losses each suffered in that event. The remaining X-Men eventually regrouped, especially after Spider-Man died, but the Four were cemented as broken up forever when [[spoiler:Reed turned evil as a KnightTemplar]].
* ComicBookDeath: averted; when you die in this universe, you die (with ''very'' few exceptions)
** The exceptions are Norman Osborne(it is hinted that this may actually be his super power), Gwen Stacey(one could argue that she was never killed just predisposed), Psylocke( as a telepath, she can transport her consciousness into multiple hosts), and Tony Stark(same deal as Psylocke, but could implant his consciousness into advanced technology. He then used the Infinity Gems to revive his body and implnt his consciousness back in it).
* CrapsackWorld: Amazingly, the Ultimate Marvel Universe is even more of one than the mainstream universe; as noted above, it has a DarkerAndEdgier approach, and, unlike the mainstream, you ''can't'' rely on cosmic schemes to come back to life after suffering a horrible death.[[spoiler: With the exception of Thor...]]
** It's so bad that [[spoiler: {{Galactus}} himself declares this universe is broken.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: A lot of elements are this compared to the mainstream version of Marvel; most notable example include Hulk and Blob [[ImAHumanitarian having cannibalistic tendencies]], AntMan [[TookALevelInJerkass being a total jerk]], Magneto being pure evil rather than a [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] AntiVillain, several key characters dying (and unlike the mainstream, they are rarely, if ever, BackFromTheDead)...
* {{Deconstruction}}: You could argue this is a deconstruction of the regular Marvel Universe. Many storylines use this as a basis.
* GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke: Stated as such by Nick Fury at the end of ''Ultimate Six''. Outside of the Asgardians, just about every existing superhuman can be traced back to military experiments in some way. Yes, including the mutants.
* MetaOrigin: The Ultimate line simplifies many random elements by having many of the world's superheroes connected to Captain America's SuperSerum in some form or another. The Hulk was accidentally created while Dr. Banner was trying to recreate the serum, {{Norman Osborn}} accidentally created Spider-Man while attempting the same thing, Weapon X [[spoiler: and the entire mutant race]] were created as the Canadian response to the Serum, and so on.
* MythArc: The superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum.
* NothingIsTheSameAnymore: The line's mission statement since ''Ultimatum'', as opposed to mainstream Marvel's StatusQuoIsGod.
* RaceLift: SamuelLJackson allowed the artists to use his likeness for the formerly white Nick Fury in exchange for getting to play Fury in the MarvelCinematicUniverse.
** There are a ''lot'' of other examples. TheWasp was Asian-American, [[Comicbook/ScarletSpider Ben Reilly]] and the most recent [[TheVision Vision]] are black, Hurricane was North Korean, Crimson Dynamo and the Abomination were Chinese, Abigail Brand are AmbiguouslyBrown.
* RevisitingTheRoots: From time to time, an element that was changed for the adaption, suddenly tilts back to the way it was (or is) in the regular Marvel Universe. For example, the Avengers began as a group of super-powered agents of SHIELD, and stayed that way for the first two arcs... and at the end of the second, they are a group of super heroes working on their own, financed by the wealth of Tony Stark (precisely their usual status in the Marvel Universe, at least before the contemporary Civil War). The Scarlet Witch donned her classic suit, Thor is shown to actually be a god from Asgard and not just a lunatic, and some topics that were initially avoided for being too fantastic (such as aliens and time-travel) finally got their space.
* ShortLivedBigImpact: Compared to the original Marvel U's massive output, the Ultimate line is tiny (only ten or so years old, with no more than four regular titles at a time). Yet, nearly every Marvel adaptation since the line's launch owes ''something'' to its Ultimate version. ''Especially'' the MarvelCinematicUniverse.
* TookALevelInJerkass: Several characters, most notably the Ultimates (this universe's version of the Avengers), Wolverine, and most notably AntMan, are ''much'' more cynical and anti-heroic than their mainstream counterpart.
** Spider-Man is one of the few characters to avert this trope, in [[LegacyCharacter both of his incarnations]].
* UltimateUniverse: TropeNamer and one of the better-known examples.
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Part re-imagining, part AdaptationDistillation, the Ultimate line was originally an attempt by MarvelComics to tempt readers into comics without being scared off by the [[ContinuityPorn decades]] of BackStory and {{Retcon}}s in the official universe.This attempt was launched in November, 2000. This had already been attempted by various other experiments - the MarvelComics2 comic line, TheNewUniverse, [[DorkAge Heroes Reborn]], etc., but none of those met with the success the Ultimate Marvel line did, except for ''Comicbook/{{Spider-Girl}}'' (the original ''[=MC2=]'' title, and via multiple relaunches the only survivor of the line), which became the longest running [[{{Spider-Man}} Spidey]] spin-off ever.

As basically an experiment which does not affect the main universe, changes and revelations are more permanent, and the universe as a whole has plot lines and continuity more neatly intertwined; notably, the connections to the Weapon X project from ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}'' and the history of the [[SuperSoldier Super-Soldier]] [[SuperSerum Serum]]/CaptainAmerica from ''TheUltimates''. As the line has grown and accumulated its own continuity, its focus has shifted from distilling old stories to making all kinds of [[ShockingSwerve sweeping changes]], like killing X-Men's sacred cows or replacing Peter Parker as Spider-Man.

The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[ComicBook/SpiderMen A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth.

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Major series in the Ultimate Marvel Universe are:
* Vol. 1:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''
** ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}''
** ''TheUltimates'': The only one that's not just a remake of its classic version, it re-imagines Comicbook/TheAvengers as a metahuman strike force under ComicBook/{{SHIELD}}. Three miniseries.
** ''UltimateFantasticFour''
* Vol. 2:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'': Peter Parker is revealed to be NotQuiteDead... [[ShootTheShaggyDogStory and then dies for real.]]
** ''[[{{Ultimate X-Men}} Ultimate X]]'': With key players dead and mutancy made illegal after ''{{Ultimatum}}'', mutants are scattered, leaderless, and trying to survive. Amounted to one miniseries thanks to ScheduleSlip.
** ''[[TheUltimates New Ultimates]]'' (One miniseries)
** ''Ultimate Avengers'': Spinoff of ''TheUltimates'' featuring a black-ops team.
*** Near the end, the latter two merged into ''Avengers vs. New Ultimates'', as the two teams were manipulated into fighting each other.
* Vol. 3:
** ''TheUltimates''
** ''{{Ultimate X-Men}}'': Mutants are regrouping, but the secrets of the mutant gene's origin are going to get out and cause problems.
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'': With Peter Parker dead, a new character has taken up the mantle.
* Vol. 4:
** [[spoiler:''Miles Morales: ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'']]
** [[spoiler:''All-New Ultimates'': No relation to the previous SHIELD-sponsored team; this is a group of the Ultimate U's teen heroes; Miles Morales' Spider-Man, Bombshell, Kitty Pryde, Cloak, and Dagger.]]
** [[spoiler:''Ultimate ComicBook/{{FF}}'': As in "Future Foundation", not "Fantastic Four" (though it does have four members); a team of {{Science Hero}}es (Sue Storm, Iron Man, the Falcon, and Machine Man).]]

Note that technically, the titles of vol. 2 and 3 have been renamed from ''"Ultimate _____"'' to ''"Ultimate Comics: _____"''; we're just sticking with the original format here for convenience (face it, titles like ''"Ultimate Comics: New Ultimates"'' are redundant and kind of a mouthful).

[[folder:Miniseries and Events]]
''Vol. 1'':
* ''Ultimate Marvel Team-Up'', a series where Spider-Man teamed up with various Ultimate heroes; it was more episodic and light than the main ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' series. At least partly CanonDiscontinuity, some elements are referenced by later series but other elements are contradicted.
* ''Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra'' and ''Ultimate Elektra: Devil's Due''.
* ''Ultimate Adventures'', an odd book about a Franchise/{{Batman}} parody that lost a competition to get upgraded to an ongoing. Not officially CanonDisContinuity, but don't expect anyone to mention it outside of Official Handbooks to Ultimate Marvel. It was part of the infamous "U-Decide" event which also involved PeterDavid's ''[[CaptainMarVell Captain Marvel]]'' and Bill Jemas' ''{{Marville}}''.
* ''Ultimate War'', an ''X-Men/Ultimates'' crossover. Magneto shows up after being thought dead, thanks to the fact that Xavier mindwiped him instead of killing him. The government ain't happy, and they send out the Ultimates.
* ''Ultimate Six'', a ''Spider-Man/Ultimates'' crossover. Spidey's Rogues Gallery escapes imprisonment (forming an Ultimate take on the Sinister Six) and they go after him with the Ultimates in pursuit.
* The ''Ultimate Galactus'' trilogy, consisting of ''Ultimate Nightmare'', ''Ultimate Secret'', and ''Ultimate Extinction''. As you might guess from its name, the Eater of Worlds is headed towards Earth and the Ultimates, X-Men and Fantastic Four have to band together to drive it off.
** ''Ultimate Vision'', a miniseries spun off from ''Ultimate Galactus''.
* ''Ultimate X4'', an ''X-Men/Fantastic Four'' crossover. Someone steals Cerebro from the X-Men and frames the Four for it.
* ''Ultimate Iron Man'', two miniseries detailing the character's origin. CanonDiscontinuity thanks to Mark Millar, who later established that this was a fictional in-universe TV show so that he could go in other directions with Tony's past.
* ''Ultimate Power'', a crossover between Ultimate Marvel and ''SupremePower''.
* ''Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk'', which got out two issues and then went on hiatus for ''four years''.
* ''Ultimate Human'', billed as Iron Man versus TheHulk, and derailed somewhat by the appearance of the Ultimate Leader.
* ''Ultimate Origins'', which expands on the MetaOrigin and the connections between various forces and mysteries in UltimateMarvel.
* ''{{Ultimatum}}'', which was supposed to be a WhamEpisode for every series, after which they were all canceled (Though ''Spider-Man'' immediately got relaunched, and ''Ultimates'' and ''X-Men'' soon got SequelSeries). To start with, [[KillEmAll millions of people and several known superhumans are dead.]]
** ''Ultimatum: [[TitleRequiem Requiem]]'' specials (''Spider-Man: Requiem'', ''Fantastic Four: Requiem'', and ''X-Men: Requiem''), ending their respective series before the ''Ultimate Comics'' reboot.
''Vol. 2:''
* ''Ultimate Armor Wars'', an adaptation of the classic Iron Man story, it features Tony Stark trying to recover an item and discovers that someone's stolen his Iron Man tech and sold it to various criminals that now employ it.
* The ''Ultimate Doomsday'' trilogy, a Spider-Man/Fantastic Four crossover consisting of ''Ultimate Enemy'', ''Ultimate Mystery'', and ''Ultimate Doom''. Superhumans and scientific installations have been targeted by a new mystery BigBad.
* ''Ultimate Thor'', the origin story of the god of Thunder.
* ''Ultimate Captain America'': The Captain America of WorldWarII vs. the Captain America of TheVietnamWar. FIGHT!
* ''[[TonightSomeoneDies The Death of Spider-Man]]'', technically a ''Spider-Man/Avengers Vs. New Ultimates'' crossover [[RedSkiesCrossover but the non-Spider-Man characters are only involved in a single fight scene. Like in ''Ultimate Six'', Spidey's enemies got out and targetted him. Unlike in ''Six'', Spidey had been injured taking a bullet for Captain America]] in the Avengers/Ultimates fight. He was able to fight his enemies off and protect Aunt May, but at the cost of his life.
** ''Ultimate Fallout: Spider-Man No More'': As the world mourns Peter Parker, the superhero community starts considering and planning for the future...
''Vol. 3'':
* ''Ultimate Hawkeye'': Tying in to ''The Ultimates''; Nick Fury sends Hawkeye, the Hulk, Karen Grant, Firestar and Guardian to investigate and retrieve a super-powering 'Serum' developed by the S.E.A.R. (South-East Asian Republic) military.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'': New Spider-Man Miles Morales comes face to face with the Spider-Man of [[MarvelUniverse another universe -- one where it's still Peter Parker doing the webslinging]].
* ''Divided We Fall'' and ''United We Stand'': A crossover affecting all the Ultimate Comics titles, the story involves a divided United States after Washington D.C. is annihilated and Sentinels begin to run rampant in the southwestern states. As a result, the entire nation is divided into smaller divisions as America is on the brink of collapsing. The second half of the story is covered in ''United We Stand'', where Captain America returns from self-imposed exile and is subsequently voted in as the President of the United States.
* ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Hunger and Cataclysm: The Ultimates Last Stand]]'': the second crossover with the MarvelUniverse. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', Galactus has made his way to the Ultimate Universe. What can the heroes of the Ultimate Earth do to stop this force of nature?
[[/folder]]

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!!The Ultimate Marvel titles provide examples of:
* AdaptationalVillainy: [[spoiler: BlackWidow; in the comic, she starts out as a villain, but ends up having a HeelFaceTurn; in Ultimate, as a reversal, she starts as a heroine and turns out to be a spy from Russia.]]
** [[spoiler: Reed Richards]], who turns out to be the Ultimate Enemy in the trilogy of the same name.
* AnyoneCanDie: and unlike the mainstream universe, it's permanent. Notable examples include Ultimatum and [[spoiler: Death of Spider Man]]
* BreakingTheFellowship: Happened to the X-Men and Fantastic Four in ''{{Ultimatum}}'' due to the losses each suffered in that event. The remaining X-Men eventually regrouped, especially after Spider-Man died, but the Four were cemented as broken up forever when [[spoiler:Reed turned evil as a KnightTemplar]].
* ComicBookDeath: averted; when you die in this universe, you die (with ''very'' few exceptions)
** The exceptions are Norman Osborne(it is hinted that this may actually be his super power), Gwen Stacey(one could argue that she was never killed just predisposed), Psylocke( as a telepath, she can transport her consciousness into multiple hosts), and Tony Stark(same deal as Psylocke, but could implant his consciousness into advanced technology. He then used the Infinity Gems to revive his body and implnt his consciousness back in it).
* CrapsackWorld: Amazingly, the Ultimate Marvel Universe is even more of one than the mainstream universe; as noted above, it has a DarkerAndEdgier approach, and, unlike the mainstream, you ''can't'' rely on cosmic schemes to come back to life after suffering a horrible death.[[spoiler: With the exception of Thor...]]
** It's so bad that [[spoiler: {{Galactus}} himself declares this universe is broken.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: A lot of elements are this compared to the mainstream version of Marvel; most notable example include Hulk and Blob [[ImAHumanitarian having cannibalistic tendencies]], AntMan [[TookALevelInJerkass being a total jerk]], Magneto being pure evil rather than a [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] AntiVillain, several key characters dying (and unlike the mainstream, they are rarely, if ever, BackFromTheDead)...
* {{Deconstruction}}: You could argue this is a deconstruction of the regular Marvel Universe. Many storylines use this as a basis.
* GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke: Stated as such by Nick Fury at the end of ''Ultimate Six''. Outside of the Asgardians, just about every existing superhuman can be traced back to military experiments in some way. Yes, including the mutants.
* MetaOrigin: The Ultimate line simplifies many random elements by having many of the world's superheroes connected to Captain America's SuperSerum in some form or another. The Hulk was accidentally created while Dr. Banner was trying to recreate the serum, {{Norman Osborn}} accidentally created Spider-Man while attempting the same thing, Weapon X [[spoiler: and the entire mutant race]] were created as the Canadian response to the Serum, and so on.
* MythArc: The superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum.
* NothingIsTheSameAnymore: The line's mission statement since ''Ultimatum'', as opposed to mainstream Marvel's StatusQuoIsGod.
* RaceLift: SamuelLJackson allowed the artists to use his likeness for the formerly white Nick Fury in exchange for getting to play Fury in the MarvelCinematicUniverse.
** There are a ''lot'' of other examples. TheWasp was Asian-American, [[Comicbook/ScarletSpider Ben Reilly]] and the most recent [[TheVision Vision]] are black, Hurricane was North Korean, Crimson Dynamo and the Abomination were Chinese, Abigail Brand are AmbiguouslyBrown.
* RevisitingTheRoots: From time to time, an element that was changed for the adaption, suddenly tilts back to the way it was (or is) in the regular Marvel Universe. For example, the Avengers began as a group of super-powered agents of SHIELD, and stayed that way for the first two arcs... and at the end of the second, they are a group of super heroes working on their own, financed by the wealth of Tony Stark (precisely their usual status in the Marvel Universe, at least before the contemporary Civil War). The Scarlet Witch donned her classic suit, Thor is shown to actually be a god from Asgard and not just a lunatic, and some topics that were initially avoided for being too fantastic (such as aliens and time-travel) finally got their space.
* ShortLivedBigImpact: Compared to the original Marvel U's massive output, the Ultimate line is tiny (only ten or so years old, with no more than four regular titles at a time). Yet, nearly every Marvel adaptation since the line's launch owes ''something'' to its Ultimate version. ''Especially'' the MarvelCinematicUniverse.
* TookALevelInJerkass: Several characters, most notably the Ultimates (this universe's version of the Avengers), Wolverine, and most notably AntMan, are ''much'' more cynical and anti-heroic than their mainstream counterpart.
** Spider-Man is one of the few characters to avert this trope, in [[LegacyCharacter both of his incarnations]].
* UltimateUniverse: TropeNamer and one of the better-known examples.
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** [[spoiler:''All-New Ultimates'': No relation to the previous SHIELD-sponsored team; this is a group of the Ultimate U's teen heroes.]]

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** [[spoiler:''All-New Ultimates'': No relation to the previous SHIELD-sponsored team; this is a group of the Ultimate U's teen heroes.heroes; Miles Morales' Spider-Man, Bombshell, Kitty Pryde, Cloak, and Dagger.]]
13th Jan '14 2:48:10 AM kyuubidriven
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** The exceptions are Norman Osborne(it is hinted that this may actually be his super power), Gwen Stacey(one could argue that she was never killed just predisposed), Psylocke( as a telepath, she can transport her consciousness into multiple hosts), and Tony Stark(same deal as Psylocke, but could implant his consciousness into advanced technology. He then used the Infinity Gems to revive his body and implnt his consciousness back in it).
11th Jan '14 12:51:12 PM StFan
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The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[{{ComicBook/Spider-Men}} A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth.

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The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[{{ComicBook/Spider-Men}} [[ComicBook/SpiderMen A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth.



* ''{{Spider-Men}}'': New Spider-Man Miles Morales comes face to face with the Spider-Man of [[MarvelUniverse another universe - one where it's still Peter Parker doing the webslinging]].

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* ''{{Spider-Men}}'': ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'': New Spider-Man Miles Morales comes face to face with the Spider-Man of [[MarvelUniverse another universe - -- one where it's still Peter Parker doing the webslinging]].
10th Jan '14 4:51:57 PM DragonRanger
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The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[{{ComicBook/Spider-Men}} A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth. All three ongoing Ultimate Comics titles (''Ultimate Comics Ultimates'', ''Ultimate Comics Spider-Man'', and ''Ultimate Comics X-Men'') were cancelled and replaced by three mini-series (''Cataclysm: Ultimates'', ''Cataclysm: Ultimate Spider-Man'', ''Cataclysm: Ultimate X-Men'', respectively) that go hand-in-hand with the main event. According to the solicitations of said event, there will be one CanonImmigrant to Earth-616, Miles Morales.

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The Ultimate Marvel universe is part of Marvel's [[AlternateUniverse multiverse]], specifically ''Earth-1610'', while the main [[MarvelUniverse Marvel Earth]] is ''Earth-616'' (though former EIC JoeQuesada despises the designation). Marvel has insisted doing a crossover between the two would be a [[SeenItAMillionTimes lame and tired idea]]. At one point, it seemed that ''UltimateFantasticFour'' would have such a crossover, but it turned out to be a trick by denizens of a strange AlternateUniverse: the one of the MarvelZombies in their debut appearance. [[{{ComicBook/Spider-Men}} A true crossover was released in 2012]], teaming up the mainstream and Ultimate Spider-Men for [[Franchise/SpiderMan the franchise's 50th anniversary]], though with Ultimate Peter Parker dead and his mantle now worn by Miles Morales the circumstances are very different than when the original statement was made. A new crossover named ''Hunger'' featured Earth-616's Galactus being transported to the Ultimate Universe as a result of ''Age of Ultron'', upon his arrival, he found himself merged with his Ultimate counterpart, Gah Lak Tus, creating a being with a greater hunger than before. This is dealt with in ''[[Comicbook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm: The Ultimates' Last Stand]]'', a title in which the newly merged Galactus arrives on Earth. All three ongoing Ultimate Comics titles (''Ultimate Comics Ultimates'', ''Ultimate Comics Spider-Man'', and ''Ultimate Comics X-Men'') were cancelled and replaced by three mini-series (''Cataclysm: Ultimates'', ''Cataclysm: Ultimate Spider-Man'', ''Cataclysm: Ultimate X-Men'', respectively) that go hand-in-hand with the main event. According to the solicitations of said event, there will be one CanonImmigrant to Earth-616, Miles Morales.
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Note that technically, the vol. 2-and-later titles have been renamed from ''"Ultimate _____"'' to ''"Ultimate Comics: _____"''; we're just sticking with the original format here for convenience (face it, titles like ''"Ultimate Comics: New Ultimates"'' are redundant and kind of a mouthful).

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\n* Vol. 4:
** [[spoiler:''Miles Morales: ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'']]
** [[spoiler:''All-New Ultimates'': No relation to the previous SHIELD-sponsored team; this is a group of the Ultimate U's teen heroes.]]
** [[spoiler:''Ultimate ComicBook/{{FF}}'': As in "Future Foundation", not "Fantastic Four" (though it does have four members); a team of {{Science Hero}}es (Sue Storm, Iron Man, the Falcon, and Machine Man).]]

Note that technically, the vol. 2-and-later titles of vol. 2 and 3 have been renamed from ''"Ultimate _____"'' to ''"Ultimate Comics: _____"''; we're just sticking with the original format here for convenience (face it, titles like ''"Ultimate Comics: New Ultimates"'' are redundant and kind of a mouthful).
25th Dec '13 8:17:42 AM La_Ninje
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* The ''Ultimate Enemy'' trilogy, a Spider-Man/Fantastic Four crossover consisting of ''Ultimate Enemy'', ''Ultimate Mystery'', and ''Ultimate Doom''. Superhumans and scientific installations have been targeted by a new mystery BigBad.

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* The ''Ultimate Enemy'' Doomsday'' trilogy, a Spider-Man/Fantastic Four crossover consisting of ''Ultimate Enemy'', ''Ultimate Mystery'', and ''Ultimate Doom''. Superhumans and scientific installations have been targeted by a new mystery BigBad.
21st Dec '13 6:17:24 PM quackytrope
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* MythArc: The superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum mentioned above.

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* MythArc: The superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum mentioned above.Serum.
21st Dec '13 6:14:47 PM quackytrope
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* MythArc: The Superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum mentioned above.

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* MythArc: The Superhuman superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum mentioned above.
21st Dec '13 6:14:25 PM quackytrope
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* MetaOrigin: The Ultimate line simplifies many random elements by having many of the world's superheroes connected to Captain America's SuperSerum in some form or another. The Hulk was accidentally created while Dr. Banner was trying to recreate the serum, {{Norman Osborn}} accidentally created Spider-Man while attempting the same thing, Weapon X [[spoiler: and the entire mutant race]] were created as the Canadian response to the Serum, and so on.

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* MetaOrigin: The Ultimate line simplifies many random elements by having many of the world's superheroes connected to Captain America's SuperSerum in some form or another. The Hulk was accidentally created while Dr. Banner was trying to recreate the serum, {{Norman Osborn}} accidentally created Spider-Man while attempting the same thing, Weapon X [[spoiler: and the entire mutant race]] were created as the Canadian response to the Serum, and so on. on.
* MythArc: The Superhuman arms race and all the numerous attempts to recreate the Super Soldier Serum mentioned above.
16th Dec '13 10:39:35 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* CrapsackWorld: amazingly, the Ultimate Marvel Universe is even more that than the mainstream; as noted above, it has a DarkerAndEdgier approach, and, unlike the mainstream, you ''can't'' rely on cosmic schemes to come back to life after suffering a horrible death.[[spoiler: With the exception of Thor...]]

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* CrapsackWorld: amazingly, Amazingly, the Ultimate Marvel Universe is even more that of one than the mainstream; mainstream universe; as noted above, it has a DarkerAndEdgier approach, and, unlike the mainstream, you ''can't'' rely on cosmic schemes to come back to life after suffering a horrible death.[[spoiler: With the exception of Thor...]]



* DarkerAndEdgier: a lot of elements are this compared to the mainstream version of Marvel; most notable example include Hulk and Blob [[ImAHumanitarian having cannibalistic tendencies]], AntMan [[TookALevelInJerkass being a total jerk]], Magneto being pure evil rather than a [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] AntiVillain, several key characters dying (and unlike the mainstream, they are rarely, if ever, BackFromTheDead)...
* {{Deconstruction}}: you could argue this is a deconstruction of the regular Marvel Universe. Many storylines use this as a basis.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: a A lot of elements are this compared to the mainstream version of Marvel; most notable example include Hulk and Blob [[ImAHumanitarian having cannibalistic tendencies]], AntMan [[TookALevelInJerkass being a total jerk]], Magneto being pure evil rather than a [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned]] AntiVillain, several key characters dying (and unlike the mainstream, they are rarely, if ever, BackFromTheDead)...
* {{Deconstruction}}: you You could argue this is a deconstruction of the regular Marvel Universe. Many storylines use this as a basis.
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