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10th Jan '18 6:15:05 AM MasterN
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Naturally, [[BlackAndGreyMorality nobody is really]] [[GrayAndGreyMorality the good guy]] in these stories. If there is a [[AudienceSurrogate sympathetic viewpoint character]], don't expect their suffering to be the prelude to a [[EarnYourHappyEnding ultimate triumph.]] No, they have got to be [[BreakTheCutie traumatized for life]], or even [[KillTheCutie killed off]], along with [[KillEmAll their friends.]] Heck, if there is a bad guy, why not [[TheBadGuyWins let him win]] and get away with it [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] while we are at it? That ought to drive home [[{{Anvilicious}} the message]] that [[CrapsackWorld life is suffering]].

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Naturally, [[BlackAndGreyMorality nobody is really]] [[GrayAndGreyMorality the good guy]] in these stories. If there is a [[AudienceSurrogate sympathetic viewpoint character]], don't expect their suffering to be the prelude to a [[EarnYourHappyEnding ultimate triumph.]] triumph]]. No, they have got to be [[BreakTheCutie traumatized for life]], or even [[KillTheCutie killed off]], along with [[KillEmAll their friends.]] friends]]. Heck, if there is a bad guy, why not [[TheBadGuyWins let him them win]] and get away with it [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] while we are at it? That ought to drive home [[{{Anvilicious}} the message]] that [[CrapsackWorld life is suffering]].
6th Dec '17 12:05:41 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Film/MoulinRouge'': How people react to Creator/HenriDeToulouseLautrec's art.

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How people react to Creator/HenriDeToulouseLautrec's art.


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* At the start of ''Disney/{{Bolt}}'', a woman from the network tells the director of Bolt's ShowWithinAShow that the show is too formulatic and optimistic. They are losing the 18-35 audience because the show is too happy for them.
29th Nov '17 7:54:16 PM MasterN
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The experts have spoken! Only the grimmest of {{traged|y}}ies can effectively [[ContemplateOurNavels explore]] the [[WeAreAsMayflies fragility of]] [[HumansAreFlawed human life]], the crushing agony of {{love|Hurts}} and regret, and other life-defining themes, such as [[FreudianExcuse why mommy never really loved you]] and the [[TooHappyToLive ultimate futility of happiness]]. Anything with an unambiguously HappyEnding is a piece of cheap boring commercial tripe or even [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical propaganda]]. (And outright comedies? Bourgeois garbage!)

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The experts have spoken! Only the grimmest of {{traged|y}}ies can effectively [[ContemplateOurNavels explore]] the [[WeAreAsMayflies fragility of]] [[HumansAreFlawed human life]], the crushing agony of {{love|Hurts}} and regret, and other life-defining themes, such as [[FreudianExcuse why mommy never really loved you]] and the [[TooHappyToLive ultimate futility of happiness]]. Anything with an unambiguously HappyEnding is a piece of cheap boring commercial tripe or even [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical propaganda]]. (And outright comedies? [[ComedyGhetto comedies]]? Bourgeois garbage!)
10th Oct '17 11:27:00 PM Draghinazzo
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* During WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman season 2, Bojack and film director Kelsey Jannings try to make a gritty, realistic and tragic movie about the life of the racehorse Secretariat. The studio's reservations about the biopic, leading to Kelsey getting fired and a script rewrite making the movie more sentimental and optimistic is portrayed as a creatively bankrupt decision made entirely with money in mind, with the new direction being treated as trite and uninteresting compared to the honest, emotionally weighty movie that Bojack and Kelsey wanted to make.

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* During WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman season 2, Bojack and film director Kelsey Jannings try to make a gritty, realistic and tragic movie about the life of the racehorse Secretariat. The studio's studio eventually develops some reservations about the biopic, movie, leading to Kelsey getting fired and a script rewrite making the movie more sentimental and optimistic with a new director attached. This is portrayed as a creatively bankrupt decision made entirely with money and audience accessibility in mind, with the new direction being treated as trite and uninteresting hackneyed compared to the honest, emotionally weighty movie that Bojack and Kelsey wanted to make.
10th Oct '17 11:25:36 PM Draghinazzo
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* During WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman season 2, Bojack and film director Kelsey Jannings try to make a gritty, realistic and tragic movie about the life of the racehorse Secretariat. The studio's reservations about the biopic, leading to Kelsey getting fired and a script rewrite making the movie more sentimental and optimistic is portrayed as a creatively bankrupt decision made entirely with money in mind, with the new direction being treated as trite and uninteresting compared to the honest, emotionally weighty movie that Bojack and Kelsey wanted to make.
25th Sep '17 11:01:29 AM Byzantine
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Naturally, [[BlackAndGreyMorality nobody's really]] [[GrayAndGreyMorality the good guy]] in these stories. If there is a [[AudienceSurrogate sympathetic viewpoint character]], don't expect their suffering to be the prelude to a [[EarnYourHappyEnding ultimate triumph.]] No, they've got to be [[BreakTheCutie traumatized for life]], or even [[KillTheCutie killed off]], along with [[KillEmAll their friends.]] Heck, if there is a bad guy, why not [[TheBadGuyWins let 'em win]] and get away with it [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] while we're at it? That ought to drive home [[{{Anvilicious}} the message]] that [[CrapsackWorld life is suffering]].

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Naturally, [[BlackAndGreyMorality nobody's nobody is really]] [[GrayAndGreyMorality the good guy]] in these stories. If there is a [[AudienceSurrogate sympathetic viewpoint character]], don't expect their suffering to be the prelude to a [[EarnYourHappyEnding ultimate triumph.]] No, they've they have got to be [[BreakTheCutie traumatized for life]], or even [[KillTheCutie killed off]], along with [[KillEmAll their friends.]] Heck, if there is a bad guy, why not [[TheBadGuyWins let 'em him win]] and get away with it [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] while we're we are at it? That ought to drive home [[{{Anvilicious}} the message]] that [[CrapsackWorld life is suffering]].
19th Sep '17 7:40:36 AM ayjazz
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* 'Sarah's Scribbles' rejects this in one of her [[http://www.gocomics.com/sarahs-scribbles/2017/07/26 webcomics]], arguing that a happy artist makes great art.
4th Sep '17 11:25:15 AM Pamina
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** Also the ending itself, as Satine's consumption is only brought up in the third act, the doctor told ''others'' before her, and it guarantees that she'll die at the end.

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** Also the ending itself, as what starts out as a happy love story with humor to spare eventually evolves into a tragic drama (though the framing narrative reveals at the start that it will end this way); Satine's consumption is only brought up in the third act, the doctor told ''others'' before her, and it guarantees that she'll die at the end.
2nd Sep '17 1:27:13 AM TheJayman49
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Contrast AngstAversion, and SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers. DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is an audience reaction voicing emphatic disagreement with the creator's notion of this trope.

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Contrast AngstAversion, AngstAversion (though they can overlap) and SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers. DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is an audience reaction voicing emphatic disagreement with the creator's notion of this trope.
27th Aug '17 11:18:18 PM WillBGood
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'''Bat-Mite''': Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a [[LighterAndSofter lighter incarnation]], but it's certainly no less valid and true to the [[Franchise/{{Batman}} character's roots]] as [[TrueArtIsAngsty the tortured avenger crying out for Mommy and Daddy]]. ''[makes the paper disappear]'' And besides, those Easter Bunnies looked [[WesternAnimation/WatershipDown really scary]], right?! \\

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'''Bat-Mite''': Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a [[LighterAndSofter lighter incarnation]], but it's certainly no less valid and true to the [[Franchise/{{Batman}} character's roots]] as [[TrueArtIsAngsty the tortured avenger crying out for Mommy and Daddy]]. Daddy. ''[makes the paper disappear]'' And besides, those Easter Bunnies looked [[WesternAnimation/WatershipDown [[HairRaisingHare really scary]], right?! \\
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