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* The Delightful Children From Down The Lane from ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor''.

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* The Delightful Children From from Down The the Lane from ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor''.
12th Jun '16 8:27:22 AM Pichu-kun
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* In ''Film/RoboCop2'' there's Hob, the villain's main henchman, who is a boy of about 12 and very competent too.

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* In ''Film/RoboCop2'' there's ''Film/RoboCop2'':
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Hob, the villain's main henchman, who is a boy of about 12 and very competent too.



* The ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'' series. Oh, Dark Forest Gates, the ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'' series. The titular first installment features a season-and-a-half year old squirrel -- described in the text as a baby and not talking yet -- who is personally responsible for the horrible deaths of ''at least'' ten vermin, and assists in the killing of many others by rolling a hedgehog over them ''in the middle of a battlefield''. He's also given a sharp dagger by a hare who thinks nothing unusual of a kid stabbing people with one hand and sucking the other. By comparison, the young, gangly teenager that goes on to see new friends and an adoptive father/Abbot poisoned to death, kills massive numbers of vermin, faces and decapitates a snake that could eat him alive, and comes plummeting from the top of an Abbey with a bird stuck in his shoulder, all by the age of thirteen seasons, seems almost reasonable. Oh, and gets married and has a son before he's sixteen seasons. Combines with AngstWhatAngst. This may have been intentional ValuesDissonance, as the series is set in pseudo-10th century England [[AC:[[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom WITH FURRIES]]]], but has been somewhat dialed down in the sequels... which still include the slavery of preteen children and [[HarmfulToMinors the murder of their slavers]].

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* The ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'' series. Oh, Dark Forest Gates, the ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'' series. The titular first installment features a season-and-a-half year old squirrel -- described in the text as a baby and not talking yet -- who is personally responsible for the horrible deaths of ''at least'' ten vermin, and assists in the killing of many others by rolling a hedgehog over them ''in the middle of a battlefield''. He's also given a sharp dagger by a hare who thinks nothing unusual of a kid stabbing people with one hand and sucking the other. By comparison, the young, gangly teenager that goes on to see new friends and an adoptive father/Abbot poisoned to death, kills massive numbers of vermin, faces and decapitates a snake that could eat him alive, and comes plummeting from the top of an Abbey with a bird stuck in his shoulder, all by the age of thirteen seasons, seems almost reasonable. Oh, and gets married and has a son before he's sixteen seasons. Combines with AngstWhatAngst. This may have been intentional ValuesDissonance, DeliberateValuesDissonance, as the series is set in pseudo-10th century England [[AC:[[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom WITH FURRIES]]]], but has been somewhat dialed down in the sequels... which still include the slavery of preteen children and [[HarmfulToMinors the murder of their slavers]].



* Parodied in a ''Series/{{Jam}}'' sketch where a man believes he has accidentally killed his friend during an argument. He calls a professional killer/"cleaner" named Maria to dispose of the body, but she turns out to be only six years old. She [[ClusterFBomb uses language that would make a sailor blush]], carries a gun, and when the victim wakes up (revealing that he was only unconscious) she shoots him in the head then hacks him to bits with a saw blade. In the end, the police are called and Maria instantly reverts to a cutesy child act.
** ''Jam'' was based on the radio series ''Blue Jam'', which featured several sketches about Maria. More disturbingly, in this version she is only ''four'' years old!

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* Parodied in a ''Series/{{Jam}}'' sketch where a man believes he has accidentally killed his friend during an argument. He calls a professional killer/"cleaner" named Maria to dispose of the body, but she turns out to be only six years old. She [[ClusterFBomb uses language that would make a sailor blush]], carries a gun, and when the victim wakes up (revealing that he was only unconscious) she shoots him in the head then hacks him to bits with a saw blade. In the end, the police are called and Maria instantly reverts to a cutesy child act.
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act. ''Jam'' was based on the radio series ''Blue Jam'', which featured several sketches about Maria. More disturbingly, in this version she is only ''four'' years old!



* Inverted in ''Series/GameOfThrones''; Robin Arryn is ten years old and ''still breastfeeding.'' On the other hand, he also takes [[KidsAreCruel particular glee in tormenting people]]

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* Inverted in ''Series/GameOfThrones''; ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
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Robin Arryn is ten years old and ''still breastfeeding.'' On the other hand, he also takes [[KidsAreCruel particular glee in tormenting people]]



** The main cast members are well-known for their (usually) HatePlague induced paranoia and murder sprees, among many other troubling behaviors. The four oldest characters are only [[VagueAge about sixteen]], with the youngest being somewhere between nine and twelve.

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** The main cast members are well-known for their (usually) [[spoiler:(usually) HatePlague induced induced]] paranoia and murder sprees, among many other troubling behaviors. The four oldest characters are only [[VagueAge about sixteen]], with the youngest being somewhere between nine and twelve.



* The trolls of ''WebComic/{{Homestuck}}'' do not, as a rule, have much in the way of childhoods--but some of them develop a strong interest in collectible card games or [[OurVampiresAreDifferent rainbow drinker]] romance novels, and others begin earnestly studying for a career in law enforcement (complete with the [[CrossesTheLineTwice mass hangings of]] [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons scalemate]] plushies) or become mass murderers by the age of thirteen.
** There's also [[spoiler:Roxy. Like her Beta counterpart, Rose's mother, she's a HardDrinkingPartyGirl. Unlike her Beta counterpart, she's only fifteen. Of course, she's one of the last two humans on the planet, and was raised by childlike Chess people, so it's unlikely anyone has ever told her to stop except her peers]].

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* ''WebComic/{{Homestuck}}'':
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The trolls of ''WebComic/{{Homestuck}}'' do not, as a rule, have much in the way of childhoods--but some of them develop a strong interest in collectible card games or [[OurVampiresAreDifferent rainbow drinker]] romance novels, and others begin earnestly studying for a career in law enforcement (complete with the [[CrossesTheLineTwice mass hangings of]] [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons scalemate]] plushies) or become mass murderers by the age of thirteen.
** There's also [[spoiler:Roxy. [[spoiler:Roxy]]. Like her Beta counterpart, Rose's mother, [[spoiler:Rose's mother]], she's a HardDrinkingPartyGirl. Unlike her Beta counterpart, she's only fifteen. Of course, she's one [[spoiler:one of the last two humans on the planet, planet]], and was raised [[spoiler:raised by childlike Chess people, people]], so it's unlikely anyone has ever told her to stop except her peers]].peers.



** Huey is a ten year old ConspiracyTheorist who thinks EverythingIsRacist. He's quite into politics for his age, which isn't a bad thing, however he goes to WellIntendedExtremist territories with his views. Huey also owns a katana, has hijacked a bus, and tried to kill someone with a bomb once.

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** Huey is a ten year old ConspiracyTheorist who thinks EverythingIsRacist. He's quite into politics for his age, which isn't a bad thing, however he goes to WellIntendedExtremist WellIntentionedExtremist territories with his views. Huey also owns a katana, has hijacked a bus, and tried to kill someone with a bomb once.
12th Jun '16 8:16:33 AM Pichu-kun
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* Illyasviel von Einzbern from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is a... [[PlayingWithATrope strange case.]] At first, she's trying to kill Shirou and Rin... then depending on the route [[ZigZaggingTrope she goes to play with Shirou, her "onii-chan", frequently.]] Then it turns out [[spoiler: [[DeconstructedTrope she's a homunculus created as a vessel for the Holy Grail]]. Finally [[SubvertedTrope it's revealed that she's 18 but has the body of a young child, and is in fact the biological daughter of Shirou's adopted father Kiritsugu. She's also not as childish in mentality as she appears.]]]]
** Plus she also tries to have sex with Shirou at two points in Fate and one in Heaven's Feel. Which is... [[{{Lolicon}} a little disturbing.]]

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* Illyasviel von Einzbern from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is a... [[PlayingWithATrope strange case.]] At first, she's trying to kill Shirou and Rin... then depending on the route [[ZigZaggingTrope she goes to play with Shirou, her "onii-chan", frequently.]] Then it turns out [[spoiler: [[DeconstructedTrope she's a homunculus created as a vessel for the Holy Grail]]. Finally [[SubvertedTrope it's revealed that she's 18 but has the body of a young child, and is in fact the biological daughter of Shirou's adopted father Kiritsugu. She's also not as childish in mentality as she appears.]]]]
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]]]] Plus she also tries to have sex with Shirou at two points in Fate and one in Heaven's Feel. Which is... [[{{Lolicon}} a little disturbing.]]



** Huey is a ten year old ConspiracyTheorist who thinks EverythingIsRacist. He's quite into politics for his age, which isn't a bad thing, however he goes to WelIIntendedExtremist territories with his views. Huey also owns a katana, has hijacked a bus, and tried to kill someone with a bomb once.

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** Huey is a ten year old ConspiracyTheorist who thinks EverythingIsRacist. He's quite into politics for his age, which isn't a bad thing, however he goes to WelIIntendedExtremist WellIntendedExtremist territories with his views. Huey also owns a katana, has hijacked a bus, and tried to kill someone with a bomb once.
12th Jun '16 7:03:23 AM Pichu-kun
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* Mildly done in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}''. The protagonist and his peers are all ten-year-olds, yet some of the kids have an odd fascination with hooking up and making out.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'':
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Mildly done in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}''.done. The protagonist and his peers are all ten-year-olds, yet some of the kids have an odd fascination with hooking up and making out. At least one character likely gets the behavior from watching R rated films.



* The imagery of mock suicide by teenagers (and, in one case, an elementary-school kid) in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' is more than a little disturbing, and likely the primary reason for the game's "M" rating in North America.
** Said elementary-school kid also goes above and beyond with this trope all on his own. [[spoiler: Plotting to [[YouKilledMyFather murder his mother's killer]] and then kill himself more than qualifies. (Mostly) fortunately for him, his plans are ruined.]]

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* The imagery of mock suicide by teenagers (and, in one case, an elementary-school kid) in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' is more than a little disturbing, and likely the primary reason for the game's "M" rating in North America.
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America. Said elementary-school kid also goes above and beyond with this trope all on his own. [[spoiler: Plotting to [[YouKilledMyFather murder his mother's killer]] and then kill himself more than qualifies. (Mostly) fortunately for him, his plans are ruined.]]



* ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' has Ellie, a fourteen year old girl who can shoot, swears like a sailor and her biggest reaction to someone being shot to pieces is 'Oh [insert swearword here]'.

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* ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' has Ellie, a fourteen year old girl who can shoot, swears like a sailor sailor, and her biggest reaction to someone being shot to pieces is 'Oh [insert swearword here]'.



* [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] [[OverlordJr Jr.]] made [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine his debut]] by vandalising an entire island with toxic graffiti in an attempt to frame Mario. When that plan started to go south, he [[LikeFatherLikeSon kidnapped Peach]] and tried to kill Mario with a giant robot. Since then, he's been shown still using his Magic Paintbrush, summoning giant killer robots, and kidnapping Peach, along with assisting in unprovoked military attacks. There are also some implications that he's a gambler. All this, from a [[VagueAge 3 to 5 year old child]].

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* [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Bowser [[OverlordJr Jr.]] made [[VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine his debut]] by vandalising an entire island with toxic graffiti in an attempt to frame Mario. When that plan started to go south, he [[LikeFatherLikeSon kidnapped Peach]] and tried to kill Mario with a giant robot. Since then, he's been shown still using his Magic Paintbrush, summoning giant killer robots, and kidnapping Peach, along with assisting in unprovoked military attacks. There are also some implications that he's a gambler. All this, from a [[VagueAge 3 to 5 year old child]].



* In ''TwistedMetal: Black'', the driver of the vehicle Yellow Jacket is a corpse... not a zombie, a corpse. See, the man was a taxi driver who was shot and, in order to enter the Twisted Metal competition, his son turned the corpse into a remote-controlled puppet. So, this kid who is using his father's corpse to kill other people with his now-weaponized taxi? ''He's eight years old''.

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* In ''TwistedMetal: ''VideoGame/TwistedMetal: Black'', the driver of the vehicle Yellow Jacket is a corpse... not a zombie, a corpse. See, the man was a taxi driver who was shot and, in order to enter the Twisted Metal competition, his son turned the corpse into a remote-controlled puppet. So, this kid who is using his father's corpse to kill other people with his now-weaponized taxi? ''He's eight years old''.






* [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] in ''WebVideo/ThereWillBeBrawl'' [[spoiler: are bad enough to make all of the other supposed ''BigBad''s nervous]].

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* [[spoiler: Ness and Lucas]] in ''WebVideo/ThereWillBeBrawl'' [[spoiler: are bad enough to make all of the other supposed ''BigBad''s nervous]].nervous.



* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': When we see Azula in a flashback to when she was about 8 years old she engages in typical activities such as teasing her brother and her friend who has a crush on him, doing cartwheels, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick throwing rocks at animals, throwing fireballs at people, hopefully suggesting that her uncle and cousin might die in battle so her father can inherit the throne, setting dolls on fire, mocking her uncle for leaving a battle after her cousin died,]] [[spoiler: [[UpToEleven cheerfully telling her brother and mother that her father has been ordered to murder her brother]]...]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'':
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When we see Azula in a flashback to when she was about 8 years old she engages in typical activities such as teasing her brother and her friend who has a crush on him, doing cartwheels, [[BreadEggsMilkSquick throwing rocks at animals, throwing fireballs at people, hopefully suggesting that her uncle and cousin might die in battle so her father can inherit the throne, setting dolls on fire, mocking her uncle for leaving a battle after her cousin died,]] [[spoiler: [[UpToEleven cheerfully telling her brother and mother that her father has been ordered to murder her brother]]...]]


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* ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'':
** Huey is a ten year old ConspiracyTheorist who thinks EverythingIsRacist. He's quite into politics for his age, which isn't a bad thing, however he goes to WelIIntendedExtremist territories with his views. Huey also owns a katana, has hijacked a bus, and tried to kill someone with a bomb once.
** Huey's BrattyHalfPint eight year old brother Riley is [[IJustWantToBeBadass obsessed with]] looking "gangsta". He can act like a delinquent, his speech is peppered with a lot of TrashTalk, and occasionally he is an accomplice in crimes. He ([[DependingOnTheWriter usually]]) [[EvenEvilHasStandards stops]] at actually hurting people though and it's implied most of his reputation is a lie.
** Cindy is a girl scout who plays up a [[GirlScoutsAreEvil a certain common joke]]. She sells cookies [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything as if]] she's selling drugs. Cindy is also PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy, though unlike most examples she is authentically into hip-hop, and is a counterpart to Riley (though she is less prone to profanity). Unlike Riley she actually seems is more hands-on violent, such as when she beat up another girl scout or when she chased a man with a bat.
7th Jun '16 6:17:33 PM ironicusername
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* Overlaping with FridgeHorror, Lucy Loud's of ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' depressed gothic personality might just seem like typical preteen or teenage angst, until you realize she's ''actually just eight years old.''
5th Jun '16 7:04:26 PM legendaryweredragon
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* Benni from ''Webcomic/ForestHill'', due to being abused and forced to work as a SexSlave for money by his father, thinks that it is normal for adults to have sex with children, and is confused when Flora is nice to him without expecting anything in return. Talitha, who is even younger than him, is worse. She molests Hunter at school by forcing him to [[PlayingDoctor Play Doctor]] with her, and is implied to be watching her father's porn. It turns out [[ParentalIncest her father was ]][[RapeByProxy forcing Benni to have sex with her.]]



1st Jun '16 5:08:41 PM Shadoboy
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* In ''TwistedMetal: Black'', the driver of the vehicle Yellow Jacket is a corpse... not a zombie, a corpse. See, the man was a taxi driver who was shot and, in order to enter the Twisted Metal competition, his son turned the corpse into a remote-controlled puppet. So, this kid who is using his father's corpse to kill other people with his now-weaponized taxi? ''He's eight years old''.
24th May '16 7:03:08 PM Qamikace
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-->'''Son:''' [[AGodAmI Yes I would.]]

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-->'''Son:''' [[AGodAmI [[AnswersToTheNameOfGod Yes I would.]]
23rd May '16 7:51:55 PM flameclaw0x7
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Contrast with WiseBeyondTheirYears, which is about positive strangely-adult behavior, and ActingYourIntellectualAge, which is neutral.

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Contrast with WiseBeyondTheirYears, which is about positive strangely-adult behavior, PsychopathicManchild, which is when an adult acts like a child and has disturbing behavior, and ActingYourIntellectualAge, which is neutral.
19th May '16 5:53:01 AM Chilliwack
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[[ChildrenAreInnocent Kids should be kids]], at least that's how the saying goes. That means worrying about little kid things and doing little kid things, such as playing on the trampoline, watching TV, going fishing, or whatever it is that kids do locally. What we don't expect kids to do is to drink alcohol, smoke, have sex, use drugs, hitchhike, commit violent crimes, or do other things we associate only with teenagers or adults. Yes, many adults are upset when a teenager drinks beer, but it's disturbing when a 10-year-old does it.

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[[ChildrenAreInnocent Kids should be kids]], at least that's how the saying goes. That means worrying about little kid things and doing little kid things, such as playing on the trampoline, watching TV, going fishing, or whatever it is that kids do locally. What we don't expect kids to do is to drink alcohol, smoke, have sex, use drugs, hitchhike, commit violent crimes, or do other things we associate only with teenagers or adults. Yes, many adults are get upset when a teenager drinks beer, but it's disturbing when a 10-year-old does it.
it, outrage turns to concern and worry.
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