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18th Sep '17 7:11:52 PM Pichu-kun
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* This is a staple of {{Shonen|Demographic}} and sometimes {{Shoujo|Demographic}} manga along with HarmfulToMinors. It's usually treated lighthearted and without any real damage though, unless it's a plot device or a {{Deconstruction}}.



** It's downright creepy what children do in the series, even moreso that nobody seems to care that the main basis of the story is using children as {{Child Soldier}}s at the ripe old age of 12 until one of them goes half mad like Zabuza who [[DeadlyGraduation murders the entire graduating class of his school]] BEFORE he was even old enough to enroll. [[SubvertedTrope However]] in the beginning, at least in Konoha, children genin are basically [[AlmightyJanitor public service workers]] for the village. D-Rank, which is what they get the most? It basically consists of dog walking, babysitting, weed pulling, etc. C-Rank, which they rarely get is basically escort duty to protect caravans or [=VIP=]s against bandits (which they can easily deal with without killing). B-Rank and above, which are normally reserved for Chunin and Jonin (the more experienced and older ninja), Konoha Genin aren't supposed to get. Which is why the Wave Arc mission was peculiar since it was billed as a C-Rank, but in terms of difficulty and the danger was a A-Rank. [[note]]This was explained in one of the episodes: the guy who hired them couldn't afford an A-rank mission, so he lied about the danger level.[[/note]] There is no technical minimum age for becoming Chunin or even a Jonin so theoretically a middle school aged kid could go on high level missions and invoke this trope. Shikamaru became a chunin at thirteen and Kakashi was several years younger when he did.

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** It's downright creepy what children do in the series, even moreso that nobody seems to care that the main basis of the story is using children as {{Child Soldier}}s Soldiers}} at the ripe old age of 12 until one of them goes half mad like Zabuza who [[DeadlyGraduation murders the entire graduating class of his school]] BEFORE he was even old enough to enroll. [[SubvertedTrope However]] in the beginning, at least in Konoha, children genin are basically [[AlmightyJanitor public service workers]] for the village. D-Rank, which is what they get the most? It basically consists of dog walking, babysitting, weed pulling, etc. C-Rank, which they rarely get is basically escort duty to protect caravans or [=VIP=]s against bandits (which they can easily deal with without killing). B-Rank and above, which are normally reserved for Chunin and Jonin (the more experienced and older ninja), Konoha Genin aren't supposed to get. Which is why the Wave Arc mission was peculiar since it was billed as a C-Rank, but in terms of difficulty and the danger was a A-Rank. [[note]]This was explained in one of the episodes: the guy who hired them couldn't afford an A-rank mission, so he lied about the danger level.[[/note]] There is no technical minimum age for becoming Chunin or even a Jonin so theoretically a middle school aged kid could go on high level missions and invoke this trope. Shikamaru became a chunin at thirteen and Kakashi was several years younger when he did.



* ''Webcomic/AfterlifeWithArchie'': Jason Blossom has always been too into his twin Cheryl. As a child, he murdered her puppy, and made it look like an accidental, all because he thought Cheryl liked Sugar more than him.






* Rather freakily lampshaded in ''Literature/BraveNewWorld'', where the childhood conditioning all the citizens are exposed to encourages children to act sexually towards each other at about ''pre-school'' age. The people administering said conditioning laugh about how those poor unenlightened souls way back when would have treated such behavior as disturbing.
** This is derived from a misinterpretation of Freudian psychology (see also Oedipus complex) that was [[ValuesDissonance more common in earlier decades]] and spawned several pro-pedophilia groups. The notion peaked in the late 1960s, when "free love" was all the rage but modern notions of consent hadn't been thoroughly formulated. All the more disturbing, no?

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* Rather freakily lampshaded in ''Literature/BraveNewWorld'', where the childhood conditioning all the citizens are exposed to encourages children to act sexually towards each other at about ''pre-school'' age. The people administering said conditioning laugh about how those poor unenlightened souls way back when would have treated such behavior as disturbing.
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disturbing. This is derived from a misinterpretation of Freudian psychology (see also Oedipus complex) that was [[ValuesDissonance more common in earlier decades]] and spawned several pro-pedophilia groups. The notion peaked in the late 1960s, when "free love" was all the rage but modern notions of consent hadn't been thoroughly formulated. All the more disturbing, no?



* Barely 14-year old Ponyboy from ''Literature/TheOutsiders'' is addicted to smoking and regularly gets into gang fights. He and his friends have been smoking for years; one started at nine.
* Storm from ''Literature/SurvivorDogs'' unnerves her pack because, even as a pup, she was quite [[EnfantTerrible aggressive and bloodthirsty]].



* [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Mission Vao]], a fourteen-year-old twi'lek living in [[CrapsackWorld Taris']] Lower City spends most of her time adventuring, thieving and fighting off thugs, slavers and trigger-happy gangsters. Plus, the Outcasts in the even worse Undercity know her as someone who explores places even their scouts fear to read, which means going toe to toe with ''rakghouls.'' There was also a significant gap of time between when her piece of ''ossik'' brother abandoned her and she started traveling with [[TheBigGuy Zaalbar]].

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* [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': Mission Vao]], Vao, a fourteen-year-old twi'lek living in [[CrapsackWorld Taris']] Lower City spends most of her time adventuring, thieving and fighting off thugs, slavers and trigger-happy gangsters. Plus, the Outcasts in the even worse Undercity know her as someone who explores places even their scouts fear to read, which means going toe to toe with ''rakghouls.'' There was also a significant gap of time between when her piece of ''ossik'' brother abandoned her and she started traveling with [[TheBigGuy Zaalbar]].



** The main cast members are well-known for their [[spoiler:(usually) HatePlague induced]] paranoia and murder sprees, among many other troubling behaviors. The four oldest characters are only [[VagueAge about sixteen]], with the youngest being somewhere between nine and twelve.

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** The main cast members are well-known for their [[spoiler:(usually) HatePlague induced]] paranoia and murder sprees, among many other troubling behaviors. The four oldest characters are only [[VagueAge about fifteen or sixteen]], with the youngest being somewhere between nine and twelve.



* Sock from ''Webcomic/WelcomeToHell'' has had a desire to kill things his entire life. When he was younger he killed animals. At the start of the series he has just [[SelfMadeOrphan killed his parents]] in [[AccidentalMurder his sleep]].



* The Delightful Children from Down the Lane from ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor''.

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* The Delightful Children from Down the Lane from ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor''.''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' are creepy, monotone-speaking kids who side with the adult villains.



* Overlaping with FridgeHorror, Lucy Loud's of ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' depressed gothic personality might just seem like typical preteen or teenage angst, until you realize she's ''actually just eight years old.''

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'':
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Overlaping with FridgeHorror, Lucy Loud's of ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' Loud depressed gothic personality might just seem like typical preteen or teenage angst, until you realize she's ''actually just eight years old.''



* As a kid, BigBadWannabe EvilGenius [[WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown Jack Spicer]] asked for knife-throwing lessons. His mom sent him [[DefiedTrope figure skating]]. So he [[GadgeteerGenius made a robot]] [[ImpossibleGenius out of her juicer]]. As a TeenGenius, he's trying to TakeOverTheWorld with a robot army... with winter sports as a [[SuddenlyAlwaysKnewThat surprise skill]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'': As a kid, BigBadWannabe EvilGenius [[WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown Jack Spicer]] Spicer asked for knife-throwing lessons. His mom sent him [[DefiedTrope figure skating]]. So he [[GadgeteerGenius made a robot]] [[ImpossibleGenius out of her juicer]]. As a TeenGenius, he's trying to TakeOverTheWorld with a robot army... with winter sports as a [[SuddenlyAlwaysKnewThat surprise skill]].



** Cindy is a girl scout who plays up a [[GirlScoutsAreEvil a certain common joke]]. She sells cookies [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything as if]] she's selling drugs. Cindy is also PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy, though unlike most examples she is authentically into hip-hop, and is a counterpart to Riley (though she is less prone to profanity). Unlike Riley she actually seems is more hands-on violent, such as when she beat up another girl scout or when she chased a man with a bat.

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** Cindy is a girl scout who plays up a [[GirlScoutsAreEvil a certain common joke]]. She sells cookies [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything as if]] she's selling drugs. Cindy is also PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy, though unlike most examples she is authentically into hip-hop, and is a counterpart to Riley (though she is less prone to profanity). Unlike Riley she actually seems is more hands-on violent, such as when she beat up another girl scout or when she chased a man with a bat.



* Mr. Cat from ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}''. The 34th episode of the series revealed that he's less than 13 years old, yet over the course of the show he has tried to have sex, gotten drunk several times, and is an AxCrazy psychopath who owns an arsenal of weapons.

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* Mr. Cat from ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}''. ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'':
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The 34th episode of the series revealed that he's Mr. Cat is less than 13 years old, yet over the course of the show he has tried to have sex, gotten drunk several times, and is an AxCrazy psychopath who owns an arsenal of weapons.
17th Sep '17 3:33:17 PM Sharysa
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* ''Literature/TheCrocodileGod'' has a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed example]] in Mirasol's children with the sea-god Haik; after she and Haik lose their first baby to [[ImperiledInPregnancy a Spaniard shooting a pregnant Mirasol,]] with both of them getting [[DespairEventHorizon traumatized like nothing else,]] their later children grow up deeply affected by it. Seeing as Mirasol is the only full mortal in the family, her children watch her all the time and are noted to be far too serious and angry at the world.

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* ''Literature/TheCrocodileGod'' has a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed example]] in Mirasol's children with the sea-god Haik; after she and Haik lose their first baby to [[ImperiledInPregnancy a Spaniard shooting a pregnant Mirasol,]] with both of them getting [[DespairEventHorizon traumatized like nothing else,]] their later children grow up deeply affected by it. Seeing as Mirasol is the only full mortal in the family, her children watch don't even hit twenty years old before they start watching her all the time to keep her from getting MORE hurt, and are noted to be far too serious and angry at the world.
17th Sep '17 3:32:06 PM Sharysa
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* ''Literature/TheCrocodileGod'' has a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed example]] in Mirasol's children with the sea-god Haik; after she and Haik lose their first baby to [[ImperiledInPregnancy a Spaniard shooting a pregnant Mirasol,]] with both of them getting [[DespairEventHorizon traumatized like nothing else,]] their later children grow up deeply affected by it. Seeing as Mirasol is the only full mortal in the family, her children watch her all the time and are noted to be far too serious and angry at the world.
16th Aug '17 12:07:07 PM Richie_Adler
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* Kevin from ''WesternAnimation/KevinSpencer'', who's age throughout the series ranged from 14-17. Kevin has engaged in arson, theft, drinking, smoking, attempted murder, and several other crimes. His life pre-series was bad enough to get him into a correctional facility for the first season.

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* Kevin from ''WesternAnimation/KevinSpencer'', who's whose age throughout the series ranged from 14-17. Kevin has engaged in arson, theft, drinking, smoking, attempted murder, and several other crimes. His life pre-series was bad enough to get him into a correctional facility for the first season.
13th Aug '17 1:41:55 AM SeptimusHeap
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* In "Brenda's Got a Baby" by [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]], Brenda (then 12 years old) [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin gets into a relationship]] with her [[{{Lolicon}} 20-something]] [[IncestIsRelative cousin]] after becoming frustrated with life [[CrapsackWorld at]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily home]]. She becomes pregnant, but manages to hide the pregnancy from her family. She ends up giving birth on the floor of the girls' bathroom at school, and tries to dispose of the baby in a dumpster (only to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feel bad]] and take it out). She and her mother are constantly at each others' throats, and finally Brenda is kicked out of the house. She is too young to be hired for honest work and has no place to go, so she sells drugs...until she is robbed at gunpoint and is driven to prostitution. [[DisposableSexWorker It does not end well.]]

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* In "Brenda's Got a Baby" by [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]], Brenda (then 12 years old) [[CantGetAwayWithNuthin gets into a relationship]] with her [[{{Lolicon}} [[NoYay 20-something]] [[IncestIsRelative cousin]] after becoming frustrated with life [[CrapsackWorld at]] [[BigScrewedUpFamily home]]. She becomes pregnant, but manages to hide the pregnancy from her family. She ends up giving birth on the floor of the girls' bathroom at school, and tries to dispose of the baby in a dumpster (only to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feel bad]] and take it out). She and her mother are constantly at each others' throats, and finally Brenda is kicked out of the house. She is too young to be hired for honest work and has no place to go, so she sells drugs...until she is robbed at gunpoint and is driven to prostitution. [[DisposableSexWorker It does not end well.]]



* Illyasviel von Einzbern from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is a... [[PlayingWithATrope strange case.]] At first, she's trying to kill Shirou and Rin... then depending on the route [[ZigZaggingTrope she goes to play with Shirou, her "onii-chan", frequently.]] Then it turns out [[spoiler: [[DeconstructedTrope she's a homunculus created as a vessel for the Holy Grail]]. Finally [[SubvertedTrope it's revealed that she's 18 but has the body of a young child, and is in fact the biological daughter of Shirou's adopted father Kiritsugu. She's also not as childish in mentality as she appears.]]]] Plus she also tries to have sex with Shirou at two points in Fate and one in Heaven's Feel. Which is... [[{{Lolicon}} a little disturbing.]]

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* Illyasviel von Einzbern from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' is a... [[PlayingWithATrope strange case.]] At first, she's trying to kill Shirou and Rin... then depending on the route [[ZigZaggingTrope she goes to play with Shirou, her "onii-chan", frequently.]] Then it turns out [[spoiler: [[DeconstructedTrope she's a homunculus created as a vessel for the Holy Grail]]. Finally [[SubvertedTrope it's revealed that she's 18 but has the body of a young child, and is in fact the biological daughter of Shirou's adopted father Kiritsugu. She's also not as childish in mentality as she appears.]]]] Plus she also tries to have sex with Shirou at two points in Fate and one in Heaven's Feel. Which is... [[{{Lolicon}} [[NoYay a little disturbing.]]
29th Jul '17 8:12:37 AM talltalltree
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* ''Minipops'', a 1980s TV show in the UK, consisted of young children dressed up as famous pop stars and singing popular hits. It drew a lot of controversy over showing kids wearing adult clothing, often performing songs that referenced sex. Particular criticism was aimed at an episode where a five-year-old girl in nightclothes and heavy makeup sang lyrics about "making love." The backlash led to the show being cancelled, although the children continued to record songs as a pop group.
28th Jul '17 6:13:38 PM Iris
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* ''Literature/IAmNotASerialKiller'' has a downplayed example in [[TheSociopath John]], whose cold and occasionally violent behavior comes off as even creepier given that he starts the series as fifteen. One of his talks with his therapist reveals a straighter example: [[spoiler:he dissected a ''live gopher''. At the age of seven.]]
18th Jul '17 12:12:58 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Literature/{{It}}'':
** The Losers Club. They regularly smoke, swear like sailors, and after their first battle with It, they all [[spoiler:make love with Beverly, the only female of the group]], all at the age of 11.
** Henry Bowers, the local town bully. He's only one year older than the Losers, and he's so violent and crazy that [[EvenEvilHasStandards fellow bullies are shocked by some of his actions]]. Throughout the novel, Henry does such things as attempt to drown Bill in a dunk tank, white-wash Stan's face in snow until it bleeds, poison Mike's pet dog just to hurt him, break Eddie's arm, attempt to carve his name into Ben's belly (only managing the "H" before Ben gets away), and later kill his father with a knife. Needless to say, it's easy for It to use him as a scapegoat for Its 1957-1958 killing spree.
** Patrick Hockstetter, another member of Henry's gang, is even worse. He kills small animals for fun by smothering them in an old refrigerator, fondles the girls in his class, gives Henry a handjob and offers him oral sex, and is revealed to have smothered his own baby brother to death with a pillow when he was only ''five''.
17th Jul '17 9:21:01 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act VI'': Arial Kuyumaya, a yuki-onna the same age as Yukari, displays this, aside from her {{Yandere}} obsession with Dark. Not only did she literally claw Mizore to pieces in a rage upon discovering that she was Dark's girlfriend (Mizore was healed by [[CombatMedic Ceal]]), but in chapter 13, she broke into Mizore's bedroom in the middle of the night to threaten her with death should she not stay away from Dark.
-->'''Arial''': Dark is my demon. He's going to be my husband, and only ''I'm'' going to have his mark over my heart. Do you hear me? If you kiss him, I'll claw off your lips. If you touch him, I'll cut off your hand. If you take his seed into you, I'll carve it out of you. He belongs to me. Everything about him is mine.
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