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1st Dec '12 5:17:48 AM SeptimusHeap
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Namespacing per TRS
Sometimes editors place a little ''too'' much importance on creating a new TropeNamer. Make no mistake: We're perfectly happy to coin terms for literary phenomena when it's clear no one else has done it for us already. We have quite a few TropeNamers spread across the wiki and, frankly, these witty pop-culture references are one of TVTropes's unique attractions. But due to the size and popularity that the wiki has grown to, the old days of sitting around in closely-knit circles of nerds and naming tropes directly from our favorite works of fiction [[GoneHorriblyRight are Over]]. [[DeaderThanDisco With a capital O]]. Sure, we're still a circle of nerds (and proud of it) and we still like to [[EntryPimp plug our favorite shows and characters]] here and there, but the goal of this wiki is (still) to document tropes in ways that are actually useful for all the ''other'' people who aren't familiar with the same things we are. Not everyone is familiar with the works/characters we are and "ClearConciseWitty" (while not strictly enforced) is the trope-naming mantra to live by. So, naming tropes after characters or examples in fiction is a thing to avoid. There are occasional exceptions where a good new TropeNamer can be created, but this is [[SturgeonsLaw very rare]] and ''extremely'' difficult to do, as there are very few universally-known works or characters out there and chances are people don't remember them for the same reasons that we do. It's easy to mistake something that ''you'' know and love for something ''everyone'' knows and loves -- we call this FanMyopia. Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "Administrivia/NeedsABetterName" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer". There's a wide range of symptoms to Trope Namer Syndrome -- all of them minor faux-pas by themselves, but on watch for several occurring simultaneously in the same draft: * A general insistence that some work of fiction [[FanMyopia "deserves to be"]] a TropeNamer; * A name that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- names ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Names starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its ''trope namer''. * A page image (and/or page quote) that conveys "[[JustAFaceAndACaption this is the Trope Namer]]" without properly illustrating the underlying definition; %% (see the Sandbox/SlidingScaleOfImagePertinence); * Listing the trope-naming example before the actual definition, or ([[ItGotWorse worse]]) not presenting any definition at all beyond "remember that moment in the TropeNamer where...?" * Fewer than [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope); * Being in a hurry to get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not. Fortunately all of these symptoms are curable before launch, just take a moment to listen to suggestions from your fellow tropers, especially if you see several people agreeing on the same point (regardless of whether you agree with said point or not). [[SturgeonsLaw Ninety percent]] of attempts to create new TropeNamers get sent straight to our TropeRepairShop forum for fixing, and the worst cases simply get deleted and sent back to the YKTTW all over again, in which case all the time you spend campaigning for your favorite TropeNamer will have come to naught. You can save our overburdened forumgoers some work by distancing yourself from your favorite work of fiction and discussing the matter with your fellow editors at YKTTW first. For more information about how to come up with a good name for a new trope, see the guidelines listed on NamingATrope. To learn more about Trope Namers in general, check out the TropeNamer page. ----
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Sometimes editors place a little ''too'' much importance on creating a new TropeNamer. Make no mistake: We're perfectly happy to coin terms for literary phenomena when it's clear no one else has done it for us already. We have quite a few TropeNamers spread across the wiki and, frankly, these witty pop-culture references are one of TVTropes's unique attractions. But due to the size and popularity that the wiki has grown to, the old days of sitting around in closely-knit circles of nerds and naming tropes directly from our favorite works of fiction [[GoneHorriblyRight are Over]]. [[DeaderThanDisco With a capital O]]. Sure, we're still a circle of nerds (and proud of it) and we still like to [[EntryPimp plug our favorite shows and characters]] here and there, but the goal of this wiki is (still) to document tropes in ways that are actually useful for all the ''other'' people who aren't familiar with the same things we are. Not everyone is familiar with the works/characters we are and "ClearConciseWitty" (while not strictly enforced) is the trope-naming mantra to live by. So, naming tropes after characters or examples in fiction is a thing to avoid. There are occasional exceptions where a good new TropeNamer can be created, but this is [[SturgeonsLaw very rare]] and ''extremely'' difficult to do, as there are very few universally-known works or characters out there and chances are people don't remember them for the same reasons that we do. It's easy to mistake something that ''you'' know and love for something ''everyone'' knows and loves -- we call this FanMyopia. Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "Administrivia/NeedsABetterName" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer". There's a wide range of symptoms to Trope Namer Syndrome -- all of them minor faux-pas by themselves, but on watch for several occurring simultaneously in the same draft: * A general insistence that some work of fiction [[FanMyopia "deserves to be"]] a TropeNamer; * A name that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- names ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Names starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its ''trope namer''. * A page image (and/or page quote) that conveys "[[JustAFaceAndACaption this is the Trope Namer]]" without properly illustrating the underlying definition; %% (see the Sandbox/SlidingScaleOfImagePertinence); * Listing the trope-naming example before the actual definition, or ([[ItGotWorse worse]]) not presenting any definition at all beyond "remember that moment in the TropeNamer where...?" * Fewer than [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope); * Being in a hurry to get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not. Fortunately all of these symptoms are curable before launch, just take a moment to listen to suggestions from your fellow tropers, especially if you see several people agreeing on the same point (regardless of whether you agree with said point or not). [[SturgeonsLaw Ninety percent]] of attempts to create new TropeNamers get sent straight to our TropeRepairShop forum for fixing, and the worst cases simply get deleted and sent back to the YKTTW all over again, in which case all the time you spend campaigning for your favorite TropeNamer will have come to naught. You can save our overburdened forumgoers some work by distancing yourself from your favorite work of fiction and discussing the matter with your fellow editors at YKTTW first. For more information about how to come up with a good name for a new trope, see the guidelines listed on NamingATrope. To learn more about Trope Namers in general, check out the TropeNamer page. ----[[redirect:Administrivia/TropeNamerSyndrome]]
1st Dec '12 5:14:53 AM SeptimusHeap
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Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterName" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer".
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Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterName" "Administrivia/NeedsABetterName" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer".
1st Dec '12 4:46:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Fewer than [[ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope); * Being in a hurry to get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not.
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* Fewer than [[ThreeRulesOfThree [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope); * Being in a hurry to get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[ThreeRulesOfThree [[Administrivia/ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not.
21st Nov '12 11:27:21 PM justanid
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changed "trope titles" to "trope names"
Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterTitle" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer".
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Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterTitle" "NeedsABetterName" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer".

* A title that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Titles starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its ''trope namer''.
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* A title name that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles names ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Titles Names starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its ''trope namer''.
27th Jul '12 10:35:10 AM IronLion
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* Less than [[ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope);
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* Less Fewer than [[ThreeRulesOfThree three examples]] beyond "The TropeNamer is [X]..." (which goes double if the trope-naming example [[ZeroContextExample doesn't even explain itself]] or [[ThisIndexIsNotAnExample isn't actually an example]] of its own trope);
26th Apr '12 1:16:41 PM TropeEater
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But due to the size and popularity that the wiki has grown to, the old days of sitting around in closely-knit circles of nerds and naming tropes directly from our favorite works of fiction [[GoneHorriblyRight are over]]. [[DeaderThanDisco With a capital O]]. Sure, we're still a circle of nerds (and proud of it) and we still like to [[EntryPimp plug our favorite shows and characters]] here and there, but the goal of this wiki is (still) to document tropes in ways that are actually useful for all the ''other'' people who aren't familiar with the same things we are. Not everyone is familiar with the works/characters we are and "ClearConciseWitty" (while not strictly enforced) is the trope-naming mantra to live by.
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But due to the size and popularity that the wiki has grown to, the old days of sitting around in closely-knit circles of nerds and naming tropes directly from our favorite works of fiction [[GoneHorriblyRight are over]].Over]]. [[DeaderThanDisco With a capital O]]. Sure, we're still a circle of nerds (and proud of it) and we still like to [[EntryPimp plug our favorite shows and characters]] here and there, but the goal of this wiki is (still) to document tropes in ways that are actually useful for all the ''other'' people who aren't familiar with the same things we are. Not everyone is familiar with the works/characters we are and "ClearConciseWitty" (while not strictly enforced) is the trope-naming mantra to live by.
12th Mar '12 11:56:35 PM Mazz
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a couple of typos
Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little to hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterTitle" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer". There's a wide range of symptoms to Trope Namer Syndrome -- all of them minor faux-pas by themselves, but on watch for several occuring simultaneously in the same draft:
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Trope Namer Syndrome primarily manifests itself in the YKTTW, the workshop where we pound out names and descriptions for new trope articles. It's easy to spot the occasional trope (er, proto-trope) where the editor is trying a little to too hard to create a TropeNamer, at the expense of developing a good name and definition that everyone will "get". These tend to get immediate responses of "NeedsABetterTitle" and/or "NeedsABetterDescription", and may also be criticized as "Bad Trope Namer". There's a wide range of symptoms to Trope Namer Syndrome -- all of them minor faux-pas by themselves, but on watch for several occuring occurring simultaneously in the same draft:
11th Mar '12 6:51:12 PM FinalStarman
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Removing superfluous apostrophe.
* A title that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Titles starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its '''trope namer''.
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* A title that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk. Titles starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its '''trope ''trope namer''.
23rd Feb '12 9:41:25 AM Spark9
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Tweak layout for clarity
* A title that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk; ** Titles starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its '''trope namer''.
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* A title that conveys ''only'' its connection to some TropeNamer -- titles ending in the words "Effect", "Syndrome", and/or "Moment" are ''especially'' at risk; ** risk. Titles starting with the word "The" can also be at risk, as this creates ambiguity between an example of the ''trope'' and a reference to its '''trope namer''.
19th Feb '12 12:13:02 PM temp1
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Return of the Rouge Angles Of Satina
* Being in a hurry get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not.
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* Being in a hurry to get the trope launched in ''exactly'' [[ThreeRulesOfThree three days]], problems or not.
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