History Main / ToughLove

2nd Dec '16 4:41:01 AM Morgenthaler
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A variation of parenting which believes that love can best be provided via schooling them in [[SchoolOfHardKnocks life's hard knocks]]. This is believed to make said offspring stronger. Sometimes it works and the kid grows up to be BadAss unable to [[NotGoodWithPeople display casual affection]]. However taken too far and the kid could end up an emotionally disturbed TheWoobie or even worse WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for the supernaturally powered variant.

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A variation of parenting which believes that love can best be provided via schooling them in [[SchoolOfHardKnocks life's hard knocks]]. This is believed to make said offspring stronger. Sometimes it works and the kid grows up to be BadAss badass unable to [[NotGoodWithPeople display casual affection]]. However taken too far and the kid could end up an emotionally disturbed TheWoobie or even worse WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds for the supernaturally powered variant.



* [[Music/JohnnyCash "A Boy Named Sue"]], anyone? The song is all about the trope, with the titular Sue being landed with the name to ensure that he grows up to be badass after a childhood of bullying over his name. The song ends with "Sue" confronting his dad, learning his intentions, and deciding to avert this trope if he ever has a son.

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* [[Music/JohnnyCash Music/JohnnyCash: "A Boy Named Sue"]], Sue", anyone? The song is all about the trope, with the titular Sue being landed with the name to ensure that he grows up to be badass after a childhood of bullying over his name. The song ends with "Sue" confronting his dad, learning his intentions, and deciding to avert this trope if he ever has a son.
2nd Dec '16 4:40:40 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[Music/JohnnyCash "A Boy Named Sue"]], anyone? The song is all about the trope, with the titular Sue being landed with the name to ensure that he grows up to be BadAss after a childhood of bullying over his name. The song ends with "Sue" confronting his dad, learning his intentions, and deciding to avert this trope if he ever has a son.

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* [[Music/JohnnyCash "A Boy Named Sue"]], anyone? The song is all about the trope, with the titular Sue being landed with the name to ensure that he grows up to be BadAss badass after a childhood of bullying over his name. The song ends with "Sue" confronting his dad, learning his intentions, and deciding to avert this trope if he ever has a son.
12th Nov '16 5:19:18 PM nombretomado
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* A mild version of this is in ''Film/McLintock'' when JohnWayne gives his daughter and her husband a small ranch as a wedding present in the hope that they will be comfortable without forgetting how to be {{Determined Homesteader}}s .

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* A mild version of this is in ''Film/McLintock'' when JohnWayne Creator/JohnWayne gives his daughter and her husband a small ranch as a wedding present in the hope that they will be comfortable without forgetting how to be {{Determined Homesteader}}s .
16th Oct '16 11:15:18 AM Tashtash
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It should be noted that ToughLove is ''still'' an abuse trope,because the practice can be damaging and dangerous even if the one dishing it out explicitly means well. YouAreNotAlone.

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It should be noted that ToughLove is ''still'' an abuse trope,because trope, because the practice can be damaging and dangerous even if the one dishing it out explicitly means well. YouAreNotAlone.
3rd Oct '16 8:51:20 PM StrixObscuro
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* In the first episode of ''Series/{{Conviction 2016}}'', Hayes' mother warns her that if she blows off the Convictions Integrity Unit, then the family plans to turn her cocaine-possession charge into possession-with-an-intent-to-distribute, in order to motivate her to actually work.
3rd Oct '16 5:45:52 PM ANTMuddle
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* A sub-premise of the short-lived ''Series/IHateMyTeenageDaughter.''
26th Jul '16 8:22:44 AM Cameron178
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* ''Series/CrazyEx-Girlfriend'' kind of deconstructs this. Apparently, all of the behavior that Rebecca's mother showed her all of her life was to toughen her up for the real world. Considering how messed up Rebecca turned out in the end, it may have backfired.

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* ''Series/CrazyEx-Girlfriend'' ''Series/CrazyExGirlfriend'' kind of deconstructs this. Apparently, all of the behavior that Rebecca's mother showed her all of her life was to toughen her up for the real world. Considering how messed up Rebecca turned out in the end, it may have backfired.
26th Jul '16 8:13:36 AM Cameron178
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* ''Series/CrazyEx-Girlfriend'' kind of deconstructs this. Apparently, all of the behavior that Rebecca's mother showed her all of her life was to toughen her up for the real world. Considering how messed up Rebecca turned out in the end, it may have backfired.
15th Jul '16 8:26:29 PM YasminPerry
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* A lot of trolls see their activities this way, seeing the Internet as increasingly trending toward PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad. Their racist, misogynistic insults are intended to get people to stop being so sensitive.
24th Jun '16 11:03:07 AM StFan
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->'''Rigby:''' Benson, why do you hate us so much?
->'''Benson:''' ...*sigh* I don't hate you guys. I hate some of the things you do... I ''really'' hate some of the things you do... I know you don't mean them, but I'm your boss. It's my ''job'' to set you two straight.

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->'''Rigby:''' Benson, why do you hate us so much?
->'''Benson:''' ...
much?\\
'''Benson:''' ...
*sigh* I don't hate you guys. I hate some of the things you do... I ''really'' hate some of the things you do... I know you don't mean them, but I'm your boss. It's my ''job'' to set you two straight.



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--> '''V:''' [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor You said you wanted to live without fear]]. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't.

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--> '''V:''' -->'''V:''' [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor You said you wanted to live without fear]]. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't.



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* [[Literature/MonsterHunterInternational Owen Pitt]] remembers himself and his brother enduring this as a child. [[spoiler: Because their father knew one of them would [[HeroicSacrifice give his life for the world]].]]
* [[Literature/{{Private}} Noelle Lange's]] grandmother employed this in ''Vanished''. [[spoiler: Knowing Reed to be her granddaughter, she decided to test her loyalty by [[SecretTestOfCharacter faking Noelle's kidnapping and giving Reed a series of challenges to perform in order to save Noelle's life]]. At the end of '''Vanished''' she and Noelle come clean to Reed about the whole thing. Grandmother Lange's entire scheme in the book was to test that Reed was worthy of being a Lange. And that's not [[SecretLegacy even the whole story...]] ]]

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* [[Literature/MonsterHunterInternational ''Literature/MonsterHunterInternational'': Owen Pitt]] Pitt remembers himself and his brother enduring this as a child. [[spoiler: Because their father knew one of them would [[HeroicSacrifice give his life for the world]].]]
* [[Literature/{{Private}} ''Literature/{{Private}}'': Noelle Lange's]] Lange's grandmother employed this in ''Vanished''. [[spoiler: Knowing Reed to be her granddaughter, she decided to test her loyalty by [[SecretTestOfCharacter faking Noelle's kidnapping and giving Reed a series of challenges to perform in order to save Noelle's life]]. At the end of '''Vanished''' she and Noelle come clean to Reed about the whole thing. Grandmother Lange's entire scheme in the book was to test that Reed was worthy of being a Lange. And that's not [[SecretLegacy even the whole story...]] ]]






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-->'''Robin''': I did almost die from malnutrition on that wolf hunt last year.
-->'''Robin's dad''': I had to almost kill you for you to learn how to kill.

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-->'''Robin''': -->'''Robin:''' I did almost die from malnutrition on that wolf hunt last year.
-->'''Robin's dad''':
year.\\
'''Robin's dad:'''
I had to almost kill you for you to learn how to kill.



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* Klaus Wulfenbach in ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' orders his son around much like minions and (unlike minions) constantly gives him hard and sometimes [[SecretTest sneaky]] tests. Then the Baron is wounded and vultures circle around him, his reaction on seeing Gil defeating a mechanized army [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome single-handedly]]? Unholy glee.
--> '''Klaus''': Now. Get me back to bed. [...] Aargh!
--> '''Dr. Sun''': I hope it was ''worth'' it.
--> '''Klaus''': Anything--being paralyzed for ''life''--would be an acceptable price for seeing what I have seen my son do today. Oh, ''yes''.

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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'':
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Klaus Wulfenbach in ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' orders his son around much like minions and (unlike minions) constantly gives him hard and sometimes [[SecretTest sneaky]] tests. Then the Baron is wounded and vultures circle around him, his reaction on seeing Gil defeating a mechanized army [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome single-handedly]]? Unholy glee.
--> '''Klaus''': --->'''Klaus:''' Now. Get me back to bed. [...] Aargh!
-->
Aargh!\\
'''Dr. Sun''': Sun:''' I hope it was ''worth'' it.
-->
it.\\
'''Klaus''': Anything--being Anything -- being paralyzed for ''life''--would ''life'' -- would be an acceptable price for seeing what I have seen my son do today. Oh, ''yes''.



* This may be the case for how Quaintana views how she raises her children in ''{{Drowtales}}''. However her children (''not to mention readers of the comic'') view it as quite [[AbusiveParents the opposite]].

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* ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'':
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This may be the case for how Quaintana views how she raises her children in ''{{Drowtales}}''.children. However her children (''not to mention readers of the comic'') view it as quite [[AbusiveParents the opposite]].



* Eric Sakai from ''SoulSymphony'', a sophomore in high school, was forced to start leaning to play violin by his grandparents when he was seven, was doing solo recitals at concert halls by twelve, and forced to start learning MORE string instruments by thirteen. He didn't want to, but it made him a [[ChildProdigy prodigy.]]

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* Eric Sakai from ''SoulSymphony'', ''Webcomic/SoulSymphony'', a sophomore in high school, was forced to start leaning to play violin by his grandparents when he was seven, was doing solo recitals at concert halls by twelve, and forced to start learning MORE string instruments by thirteen. He didn't want to, but it made him a [[ChildProdigy prodigy.]]



--> '''Ozai''': It was to teach you respect!\\
'''Zuko''': [[CallingTheOldManOut It was cruel, and it was wrong!]]\\
'''Ozai''': Then you have learned nothing!

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--> '''Ozai''': -->'''Ozai:''' It was to teach you respect!\\
'''Zuko''': '''Zuko:''' [[CallingTheOldManOut It was cruel, and it was wrong!]]\\
'''Ozai''': '''Ozai:''' Then you have learned nothing!



--> '''Brian:''' I'm not gonna call the hospital because you won't learn anything if I do.
* [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill Hank Hill]] goes through this with his son Bobby. At one point, he even says "I tried being nice, but now it's time for tough love."
** Oddly enough, despite his backward views on parenting, [[EveryoneHasStandards he draws the line at spanking]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': The Pie parents may be dead-serious, strict, prone to anger and totally willing to let their fillies work all day long with rocks, not to mention their preference to speak in archaic english (They're based on the Amish, after all). But, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold deep inside]], they truly love their four daughters equally and are very proud of them, and care a lot about Pinkie too, even if she's not the kind of mare they wanted to have.

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--> '''Brian:''' -->'''Brian:''' I'm not gonna call the hospital because you won't learn anything if I do.
* [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Hank Hill]] Hill goes through this with his son Bobby. At one point, he even says "I tried being nice, but now it's time for tough love."
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" Oddly enough, despite his backward views on parenting, [[EveryoneHasStandards he draws the line at spanking]].
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': The Pie parents may be dead-serious, strict, prone to anger and totally willing to let their fillies work all day long with rocks, not to mention their preference to speak in archaic english (They're English (they're based on the Amish, after all). But, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold deep inside]], they truly love their four daughters equally and are very proud of them, and care a lot about Pinkie too, even if she's not the kind of mare they wanted to have.



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