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25th Nov '17 10:14:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in surprising nuance and subtlety as [[TheHighQueen Princess Bubblegum's]] FatalFlaw. On the one hand, the Land of Ooo is a CrapsaccharineWorld and the [[MadeOfPlasticine Candy People]] are [[TooDumbToLive not]] [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy very]] [[WhatTheHellTownspeople savvy]] to its many dangers. Caring for her people is a [[{{Workaholic}} full-time job]], as they are [[InherentInTheSystem quick to panic and doubt]], to say nothing of the many dangers that find their way to the kingdom's borders. As such, [[VetinariJobSecurity the Candy Kingdom's all but guaranteed to collapse if/when PB permanently leaves power]] but - to top it all off - she is ''not'' immortal and (being more-or-less the LastOfHerKind) has ''[[YourDaysAreNumbered has no idea how long her life may truly last]]''. On the other hand, her [[IDidWhatIHadToDo methods of peacekeeping]] are... [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extreme]]. SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands, PlayingWithSyringes, {{Realpolitik}} and other forms of DirtyBusiness are all on the table. Roughly half the hardships that befall the kingdom are her experiments GoneHorriblyWrong, she [[ManipulativeBastard keeps the local]] KidHero [[ManipulativeBastard in her pocket]] and she's caused two [[ZombieApocalypse Zombie outbreaks]] to date.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in surprising nuance and subtlety as [[TheHighQueen Princess Bubblegum's]] FatalFlaw. On the one hand, the Land of Ooo is a CrapsaccharineWorld and the [[MadeOfPlasticine Candy People]] are [[TooDumbToLive not]] [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy very]] [[WhatTheHellTownspeople savvy]] not very savvy to its many dangers.dangers]]. Caring for her people is a [[{{Workaholic}} full-time job]], as they are [[InherentInTheSystem quick to panic and doubt]], to say nothing of the many dangers that find their way to the kingdom's borders. As such, [[VetinariJobSecurity the Candy Kingdom's all but guaranteed to collapse if/when PB permanently leaves power]] but - to top it all off - she is ''not'' immortal and (being more-or-less the LastOfHerKind) has ''[[YourDaysAreNumbered has no idea how long her life may truly last]]''. On the other hand, her [[IDidWhatIHadToDo methods of peacekeeping]] are... [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extreme]]. SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands, PlayingWithSyringes, {{Realpolitik}} and other forms of DirtyBusiness are all on the table. Roughly half the hardships that befall the kingdom are her experiments GoneHorriblyWrong, she [[ManipulativeBastard keeps the local]] KidHero [[ManipulativeBastard in her pocket]] and she's caused two [[ZombieApocalypse Zombie outbreaks]] to date.
11th Sep '17 12:49:36 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* There's one Creator/StanislawLem story about a society which builds an ArtificialIntelligence that has to create the perfect world. The AI does this by building a factory, taking people one by one there, with the promise of a happy place, and noone ever returns from there (that alone should ring some alarm bells, but apparently the people aren't GenreSavvy). Truth is, in the factory people are turned into shiny metal discs, which the AI later arranges in a geometrical pattern. Apparently it's a bit of a LiteralGenie and didn't understand that this wasn't what people had in mind with "the perfect world".

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* There's one Creator/StanislawLem story about a society which builds an ArtificialIntelligence that has to create the perfect world. The AI does this by building a factory, taking people one by one there, with the promise of a happy place, and noone ever returns from there (that alone should ring some alarm bells, but apparently the people aren't GenreSavvy).there. Truth is, in the factory people are turned into shiny metal discs, which the AI later arranges in a geometrical pattern. Apparently it's a bit of a LiteralGenie and didn't understand that this wasn't what people had in mind with "the perfect world".
24th Jun '17 12:42:09 PM nombretomado
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* ''CodeGeass'':

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* ''CodeGeass'': ''Anime/CodeGeass'':
2nd Jun '17 8:13:07 AM Chabal2
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** Chaos is the stuff of daemons and dark gods, embodiments of all rage, desire, hope and despair (and/or love) felt by sentient beings in the universe. There is no real way to defeat it... except for the Necron master plan of killing off all ''life'' in the universe, starving the Chaos gods.
13th May '17 1:21:48 PM nombretomado
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* The classic series ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, "The Happiness Patrol", tells of a society in which the tyrannical leader Helen A has all the "killjoys" - basically, anyone who shows any sort of unhappiness ever - killed, occasionally in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath bizarre ways]]. For bonus points, Helen A is also an obvious parody of then-Prime Minister MargaretThatcher.

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* The classic series ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, "The Happiness Patrol", tells of a society in which the tyrannical leader Helen A has all the "killjoys" - basically, anyone who shows any sort of unhappiness ever - killed, occasionally in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath bizarre ways]]. For bonus points, Helen A is also an obvious parody of then-Prime Minister MargaretThatcher.UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher.
8th Apr '17 1:33:32 PM Dravencour
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** [[spoiler:Kyubey]] is trying to [[spoiler:stave off the heat death of the universe. By dooming teenage girls to lives of suffering, and killing plenty of innocents (potentially entire planets) along the way. The primary problem here is that there's trillions of years to come up with a less terrible plan]].

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** [[spoiler:Kyubey]] is [[spoiler:Kyubey and the Incubators]] are trying to [[spoiler:stave off the heat death of the universe. By dooming teenage girls to lives of suffering, and killing plenty of innocents (potentially entire planets) along the way. The primary problem here is that there's trillions the heat death of years the universe isn't going to happen for a very, very long time (trillions of years) which is ''more'' than enough time to come up with a less terrible plan, and the Incubators are willing to condemn entire species to extinction for the sake of their current plan]].
13th Jan '17 9:10:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Literature/FromTheNewWorld'' takes this to [[NightmareFuel terrifying]] [[NauseaFuel level]]. In order to create a stable society of psychic and avoid repeating [[AfterTheEnd the destruction of the world]], the society has been thoroughly indoctrinated, and anyone who display even a ''potential'' to stray fron the doctrine is silently and quickly terminated-- even (''especially'') if that someone is a kid. Said society has been genetically modified to resolve dissenssion through hot bisexual sex, modeled after bonobo. [[spoiler:Anyone who doesn't have psychic power is downlifted into mole-rat-men.]] [[MarySuetopia You have a society where everyone is sexually satisfied and possesses psychic power, but at what cost?]]

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* ''Literature/FromTheNewWorld'' takes this to [[NightmareFuel terrifying]] [[NauseaFuel level]].terrifying level. In order to create a stable society of psychic and avoid repeating [[AfterTheEnd the destruction of the world]], the society has been thoroughly indoctrinated, and anyone who display even a ''potential'' to stray fron the doctrine is silently and quickly terminated-- even (''especially'') if that someone is a kid. Said society has been genetically modified to resolve dissenssion through hot bisexual sex, modeled after bonobo. [[spoiler:Anyone who doesn't have psychic power is downlifted into mole-rat-men.]] [[MarySuetopia You have a society where everyone is sexually satisfied and possesses psychic power, but at what cost?]]
13th Jan '17 9:10:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' tried his hardest to be this. [[spoiler: Pity [[OmnicidalManiac Ruin]] was in telepathic contact with him for his whole thousand-year reign, twisting his utopian vision into a postapocalyptic nightmare]].

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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' tried his hardest to be this. [[spoiler: Pity [[OmnicidalManiac Ruin]] was in telepathic contact with him for his whole thousand-year reign, twisting his utopian vision into a postapocalyptic nightmare]].
13th Jan '17 8:44:49 AM crazysamaritan
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--> '''[=GLaDOS=]:''' [[MadScientist Aperture Science]]: [[IDidWhatIHadToDo We do what we must]], [[ItAmusedMe because we can]]. [[TheNeedsOfTheMany For the good of all of us]], [[NoExceptYes except the ones who are dead]].

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--> '''[=GLaDOS=]:''' [[MadScientist Aperture Science]]: [[IDidWhatIHadToDo We do what we must]], [[ItAmusedMe because we can]]. [[TheNeedsOfTheMany For the good of all of us]], [[NoExceptYes [[AssuranceBackfire except the ones who are dead]].
2nd Jan '17 6:00:08 PM nombretomado
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--> '''GLaDOS:''' [[MadScientist Aperture Science]]: [[IDidWhatIHadToDo We do what we must]], [[ItAmusedMe because we can]]. [[TheNeedsOfTheMany For the good of all of us]], [[NoExceptYes except the ones who are dead]].

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--> '''GLaDOS:''' '''[=GLaDOS=]:''' [[MadScientist Aperture Science]]: [[IDidWhatIHadToDo We do what we must]], [[ItAmusedMe because we can]]. [[TheNeedsOfTheMany For the good of all of us]], [[NoExceptYes except the ones who are dead]].
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