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18th Mar '18 7:17:08 AM nighttrainfm
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* In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', this is apparently Thanos' motive. His comic counterpart was literally in love with Death, and used the Infinity Gauntlet to wipe out half of all life as a "tribute" to her. Here, he wants to do the same thing...because he believes the universe is inevitably headed for the same OverpopulationCrisis that destroyed his home.
-->'''Thanos:''' When I'm done, half of humanity will still exist. Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.
5th Mar '18 12:22:27 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Valmur of ''SuikodenTierkreis'' is half this and half trying to survive. On the one hand, he believes there's no way to beat [[EldritchAbomination the One King]], and that those who ally with it will be spared. On the other, he'd probably ally with the One King anyway--[[spoiler:in return, he and everyone he follows will be placed in [[GroundhogDayLoop eternally repeating]] [[LotusEaterMachine illusions of the best days of their lives]]. To Valmur, who is unable to accept the deaths of his family, even an illusion of their return is better than reality, and he's willing to inflict the illusion on everyone else. Of note is that at least for the protagonists, it doesn't work--the gun expert grows weary of never completing his greatest design; the farmer realizes his crops will never be harvested; two lovers know they'll never be able to raise children . . .]]

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* Valmur of ''SuikodenTierkreis'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenTierkreis'' is half this and half trying to survive. On the one hand, he believes there's no way to beat [[EldritchAbomination the One King]], and that those who ally with it will be spared. On the other, he'd probably ally with the One King anyway--[[spoiler:in return, he and everyone he follows will be placed in [[GroundhogDayLoop eternally repeating]] [[LotusEaterMachine illusions of the best days of their lives]]. To Valmur, who is unable to accept the deaths of his family, even an illusion of their return is better than reality, and he's willing to inflict the illusion on everyone else. Of note is that at least for the protagonists, it doesn't work--the gun expert grows weary of never completing his greatest design; the farmer realizes his crops will never be harvested; two lovers know they'll never be able to raise children . . .]]
20th Jan '18 7:12:46 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Film/{{Spectre}}'': Max/C justifies working with SPECTRE to create a global PoliceState because he sees it as the best way to bring order to a world in chaos.
16th Jan '18 3:27:04 PM Xythos
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': Jin-Gitaxias, the Blue Praetor and leader of the [[MadScientist Progress Engine]], really intends to improve life for everyone on New Phyrexia. How? By dissecting them and performing massive surgery without anesthesia to ease their ''compleation''. Surprisingly, [[VillainousFriendship he gets along very well]] with the PrincipleZealot Elesh Norn.

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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': Jin-Gitaxias, the Blue Praetor and leader of the [[MadScientist Progress Engine]], really intends to improve life for everyone on New Phyrexia. How? By dissecting them and performing massive surgery without anesthesia to ease their ''compleation''. Surprisingly, [[VillainousFriendship he gets along very well]] with the PrincipleZealot PrinciplesZealot Elesh Norn.
16th Jan '18 3:26:07 PM Xythos
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': Jin-Gitaxias, the Blue Praetor and leader of the [[MadScientist Progress Engine]], really intends to improve life for everyone on New Phyrexia. How? By dissecting them and performing massive surgery without anesthesia to ease their ''compleation''. Surprisingly, [[VillainousFriendship he gets along very well]] with the PrincipleZealot Elesh Norn.
25th Nov '17 10:14:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in surprising nuance and subtlety as [[TheHighQueen Princess Bubblegum's]] FatalFlaw. On the one hand, the Land of Ooo is a CrapsaccharineWorld and the [[MadeOfPlasticine Candy People]] are [[TooDumbToLive not]] [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy very]] [[WhatTheHellTownspeople savvy]] to its many dangers. Caring for her people is a [[{{Workaholic}} full-time job]], as they are [[InherentInTheSystem quick to panic and doubt]], to say nothing of the many dangers that find their way to the kingdom's borders. As such, [[VetinariJobSecurity the Candy Kingdom's all but guaranteed to collapse if/when PB permanently leaves power]] but - to top it all off - she is ''not'' immortal and (being more-or-less the LastOfHerKind) has ''[[YourDaysAreNumbered has no idea how long her life may truly last]]''. On the other hand, her [[IDidWhatIHadToDo methods of peacekeeping]] are... [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extreme]]. SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands, PlayingWithSyringes, {{Realpolitik}} and other forms of DirtyBusiness are all on the table. Roughly half the hardships that befall the kingdom are her experiments GoneHorriblyWrong, she [[ManipulativeBastard keeps the local]] KidHero [[ManipulativeBastard in her pocket]] and she's caused two [[ZombieApocalypse Zombie outbreaks]] to date.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in surprising nuance and subtlety as [[TheHighQueen Princess Bubblegum's]] FatalFlaw. On the one hand, the Land of Ooo is a CrapsaccharineWorld and the [[MadeOfPlasticine Candy People]] are [[TooDumbToLive not]] [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy very]] [[WhatTheHellTownspeople savvy]] not very savvy to its many dangers.dangers]]. Caring for her people is a [[{{Workaholic}} full-time job]], as they are [[InherentInTheSystem quick to panic and doubt]], to say nothing of the many dangers that find their way to the kingdom's borders. As such, [[VetinariJobSecurity the Candy Kingdom's all but guaranteed to collapse if/when PB permanently leaves power]] but - to top it all off - she is ''not'' immortal and (being more-or-less the LastOfHerKind) has ''[[YourDaysAreNumbered has no idea how long her life may truly last]]''. On the other hand, her [[IDidWhatIHadToDo methods of peacekeeping]] are... [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extreme]]. SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands, PlayingWithSyringes, {{Realpolitik}} and other forms of DirtyBusiness are all on the table. Roughly half the hardships that befall the kingdom are her experiments GoneHorriblyWrong, she [[ManipulativeBastard keeps the local]] KidHero [[ManipulativeBastard in her pocket]] and she's caused two [[ZombieApocalypse Zombie outbreaks]] to date.
11th Sep '17 12:49:36 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* There's one Creator/StanislawLem story about a society which builds an ArtificialIntelligence that has to create the perfect world. The AI does this by building a factory, taking people one by one there, with the promise of a happy place, and noone ever returns from there (that alone should ring some alarm bells, but apparently the people aren't GenreSavvy). Truth is, in the factory people are turned into shiny metal discs, which the AI later arranges in a geometrical pattern. Apparently it's a bit of a LiteralGenie and didn't understand that this wasn't what people had in mind with "the perfect world".

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* There's one Creator/StanislawLem story about a society which builds an ArtificialIntelligence that has to create the perfect world. The AI does this by building a factory, taking people one by one there, with the promise of a happy place, and noone ever returns from there (that alone should ring some alarm bells, but apparently the people aren't GenreSavvy).there. Truth is, in the factory people are turned into shiny metal discs, which the AI later arranges in a geometrical pattern. Apparently it's a bit of a LiteralGenie and didn't understand that this wasn't what people had in mind with "the perfect world".
24th Jun '17 12:42:09 PM nombretomado
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* ''CodeGeass'':

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* ''CodeGeass'': ''Anime/CodeGeass'':
2nd Jun '17 8:13:07 AM Chabal2
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** Chaos is the stuff of daemons and dark gods, embodiments of all rage, desire, hope and despair (and/or love) felt by sentient beings in the universe. There is no real way to defeat it... except for the Necron master plan of killing off all ''life'' in the universe, starving the Chaos gods.
13th May '17 1:21:48 PM nombretomado
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* The classic series ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, "The Happiness Patrol", tells of a society in which the tyrannical leader Helen A has all the "killjoys" - basically, anyone who shows any sort of unhappiness ever - killed, occasionally in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath bizarre ways]]. For bonus points, Helen A is also an obvious parody of then-Prime Minister MargaretThatcher.

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* The classic series ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, "The Happiness Patrol", tells of a society in which the tyrannical leader Helen A has all the "killjoys" - basically, anyone who shows any sort of unhappiness ever - killed, occasionally in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath bizarre ways]]. For bonus points, Helen A is also an obvious parody of then-Prime Minister MargaretThatcher.UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher.
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