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5th Nov '16 8:27:12 AM AgentKyles
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No historical examples younger than a century. However, feel free to go around this with examples of how various authors have ''portrayed'' various groups. [[noreallife]]

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No historical examples younger than a century. However, '''''at all''''', m'kay? (However, feel free to go around this with examples of how various authors have ''portrayed'' various groups. groups.) [[noreallife]]
27th Oct '16 2:30:36 PM morenohijazo
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* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': [[spoiler:Tom falls into this, willing to sacrifice the entire crew to avoid risking the alien virus to reach Earth. The implied reason is that it's due to its programming restrictions. Tom says it's not allowed to think laterally (or, as it calls it, "use evolutionary algorithms") because it would create unethical solutions. The implication is that Tom [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity sees everything in black and white]] and lacks the creativity to TakeAThirdOption, thus being only able to take drastical decisions.]]

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* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': [[spoiler:Tom [[spoiler:TOM falls into this, willing to sacrifice the entire crew to avoid risking the alien virus to reach Earth. The implied reason is that it's due to its programming restrictions. Tom TOM says it's not allowed to think laterally (or, as it calls it, "use evolutionary algorithms") because it would create unethical solutions. The implication is that Tom TOM [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity sees everything in black and white]] and lacks the creativity to TakeAThirdOption, thus being only able to take drastical decisions.]]
21st Oct '16 1:36:04 PM Chaos009
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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in surprising nuance and subtlety as [[TheHighQueen Princess Bubblegum's]] FatalFlaw. On the one hand, the Land of Ooo is a CrapsaccharineWorld and the [[MadeOfPlasticine Candy People]] are [[TooDumbToLive not]] [[TheGuardsMustBeCrazy very]] [[WhatTheHellTownspeople savvy]] to its many dangers. Caring for her people is a [[{{Workaholic}} full-time job]], as they are [[InherentInTheSystem quick to panic and doubt]], to say nothing of the many dangers that find their way to the kingdom's borders. As such, [[VetinariJobSecurity the Candy Kingdom's all but guaranteed to collapse if/when PB permanently leaves power]] but - to top it all off - she is ''not'' immortal and (being more-or-less the LastOfHerKind) has ''[[YourDaysAreNumbered has no idea how long her life may truly last]]''. On the other hand, her [[IDidWhatIHadToDo methods of peacekeeping]] are... [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extreme]]. SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands, PlayingWithSyringes, {{Realpolitik}} and other forms of DirtyBusiness are all on the table. Roughly half the hardships that befall the kingdom are her experiments GoneHorriblyWrong, she [[ManipulativeBastard keeps the local]] KidHero [[ManipulativeBastard in her pocket]] and she's caused two [[ZombieApocalypse Zombie outbreaks]] to date.
23rd Sep '16 4:21:33 AM morenohijazo
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* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': [[spoiler:Tom falls into this, willing to sacrifice the entire crew to avoid risking the alien virus to reach Earth. The implied reason is that it's due to its programming restrictions. Tom says it's not allowed to think laterally (or, as it calls it, "use evolutionary algorithms") because it would create unethical solutions. The implication is that Tom [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity sees everything in black and white]] and lacks the creativity to TakeAThirdOption, thus being only able to take drastical decisions.]]
17th Sep '16 5:11:09 PM DLC1
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** While the NCR is more concerned with the general wellbeing of their people than Caesar or House, they also have no qualms with swiping land from anyone who's in their way, often by force, and their President Kimball is an apathetic profiteer at best.

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** While the NCR is more concerned with the general wellbeing of their people than Caesar or House, Caesar, they also have no qualms with swiping land from anyone who's in their way, often by force, and their President Kimball is an apathetic profiteer at best.
17th Sep '16 10:30:27 AM Divra
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* ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'''s BigBad, [[spoiler:[[BaitAndSwitchBoss Kerghan]]]], believes [[TheExtremistWasRight (rightly so)]] that death equals eternal peace as opposed to the constant struggle of life. [[OmnicidalManiac He draws the logical conclusion.]]

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* ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'''s BigBad, [[spoiler:[[BaitAndSwitchBoss Kerghan]]]], believes [[TheExtremistWasRight (rightly so)]] that death equals eternal peace as opposed to the constant struggle of life. [[OmnicidalManiac He draws the logical conclusion.]]]] The most disturbing thing is that he makes his case so well, and has such compelling evidence for his premises, you may well find yourself agreeing with him.
8th Jul '16 9:27:33 PM DoctorCooper
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What makes the TotalitarianUtilitarian a frightening character is that while their ForHappiness motive is tragically flawed, they are ''ruthlessly efficient'' to those ends and have [[TheHedonist no hobbies, no pastimes, and no friends]] - nothing [[AttackItsWeakPoint that could be]] [[FlawExploitation used against them]], in other words.

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What makes the TotalitarianUtilitarian Totalitarian Utilitarian a frightening character is that while their ForHappiness motive is tragically flawed, they are ''ruthlessly efficient'' to those ends and have [[TheHedonist no hobbies, no pastimes, and no friends]] - nothing [[AttackItsWeakPoint that could be]] [[FlawExploitation used against them]], in other words.
29th Jun '16 2:19:23 PM Atha
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** There are also the Jammers, who want to free the world and humanity from the "tyranny" of Chi by destroying all Feng Shui sites. Sites that often take the form of schools, hospitals and other places important to a community or where innocents tend to gather. And to make things worse, they haven't given much thought as to what will happen once all Chi and Feng Shui are destroyed, and what the consequences will be to the world -- and given that Chi is said to be tied to life itself, the consequences could be very bad indeed.

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** There are also the Jammers, who want to free the world and humanity from the "tyranny" of Chi by destroying all Feng Shui sites. Sites that often take the form of schools, hospitals and other places important to a community or where innocents tend to gather. And to make things worse, they haven't given much thought as to what will happen once all Chi and Feng Shui are destroyed, and what the consequences will be to the world -- and given that Chi is said to be tied to life itself, the consequences could be very bad indeed. In Feng Shui 2, they actually do succeed-the end result is turning what had been a dystopian setting into a post apocalyptic one, killing 97% of the world's population, and destroying the environment.
3rd Mar '16 9:35:36 AM memememememe
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* In ''Anime/PsychoPass'' the Sybil System and the people who work to keep it in control of society are this, with the anime starting AFTER they succeed in realizing their goal. Near the midpoint of the show the idea of maximum happiness is highlighted as why the system is so great. All it asks is that you submit to it deciding your entire lifepath, constant drone overwatch, the threat of permanent detention or even execution if the prediction system decides you might commit a crime, and the further threat of constant mind-altering drug applications or detention if you have a chronically negative mood.

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* In ''Anime/PsychoPass'' the Sybil System and the people who work to keep it in control of society are this, with the anime starting AFTER they succeed in realizing their goal. Near the midpoint of the show the idea of maximum happiness is highlighted as why the system is so great. All it asks is that you submit to it deciding your entire lifepath, [[BigBrotherISWatching constant drone overwatch, the threat of overwatch]], permanent detention or even execution if the prediction system decides you might commit a crime, rehabilitation and the further threat of constant mind-altering drug applications or detention if you have a chronically negative mood.mood, and the further threat of euthanasia if the prediction system decides your negative mood might cause you to commit a crime. This is soon deconstructed by an individual completely alien to its morals: [[TheUbermensch Makishima]].
25th Jan '16 10:37:35 PM kome360
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*** The difference is explained in the MMO. Turns out that [[spoiler:individuals forced to work together means that different viewpoints and resistances act as safeguards and vaccines. The ENTIRE Borg were hacked by psychopaths a LONG time ago.]]
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