History Main / TorosYFlamenco

21st Jun '16 4:43:22 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* While the [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Kingdom of Sapin]] from ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'' is presented as a modern and advanced nation, some of the usual Spanish stereotypes [[ZigZaggingTrope still creep into its portrayal]]. The main female character from Sapin is a modern day AcePilot with the callsign "Macarena" (groan), who works as a teacher of flamenco (groan) after she quits in the armed forces. And yes, she wears a rose in her hair while teaching said dance (groan) and is presented as a romantic, melancholic woman (groan).

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* While the [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Kingdom of Sapin]] from ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'' is presented as a modern and advanced nation, some of the usual Spanish stereotypes [[ZigZaggingTrope still creep into its portrayal]]. The main female character from Sapin Spain is a modern day AcePilot with the callsign "Macarena" (groan), who works as a teacher of flamenco (groan) after she quits in the armed forces. And yes, she wears a rose in her hair while teaching said dance (groan) and is presented as a romantic, melancholic woman (groan).



* In the very beginning of the Creator/DataEast arcade game ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinmaster Spinmaster]]'' you enter into an airport with a sign that reads ''[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/arcade/spinmaster/screenshots/gameShotId,672370/ Madrid Airport]]'', complete with a waving Spanish flag. RealLife [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid-Barajas_Airport Madrid airport]] is ''very'' different of the game's one and to take this UpToEleven, looks like the developers put Madrid in ''America'' instead of Europe.
21st Jun '16 4:12:34 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* It should be noted here that the usual depiction of the Spanish countryside as the classical depictions of southwestern North America, with a similar climate (and dotted with towns of whitewashed buildings), has its exceptions not only on its mountainous regions but also mainly in the form of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Spain northermost Spain]], whose considerably wetter and milder climate gives it lush landscapes similar to those of Great Britain or Ireland.
21st Jun '16 3:54:06 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* In the very beginning of the Creator/DataEast arcade game ''Spinmaster'' you enter into an airport with a sign that reads ''[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/arcade/spinmaster/screenshots/gameShotId,672370/ Madrid Airport]]'', complete with a waving Spanish flag. RealLife [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid-Barajas_Airport Madrid airport]] is ''very'' different of something that seems to have come from a stereotypical BananaRepublic.

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* In the very beginning of the Creator/DataEast arcade game ''Spinmaster'' ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinmaster Spinmaster]]'' you enter into an airport with a sign that reads ''[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/arcade/spinmaster/screenshots/gameShotId,672370/ Madrid Airport]]'', complete with a waving Spanish flag. RealLife [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid-Barajas_Airport Madrid airport]] is ''very'' different of something that seems the game's one and to have come from a stereotypical BananaRepublic.take this UpToEleven, looks like the developers put Madrid in ''America'' instead of Europe.
21st Jun '16 3:46:48 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* In the very beginning of the Creator/DataEast arcade game ''Spinmaster'' you enter into an airport with a sign that reads ''[[http://www.mobygames.com/game/arcade/spinmaster/screenshots/gameShotId,672370/ Madrid Airport]]'', complete with a waving Spanish flag. RealLife [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid-Barajas_Airport Madrid airport]] is ''very'' different of something that seems to have come from a stereotypical BananaRepublic.
21st Jun '16 5:26:15 AM Naram-Sin
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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't catch the killer sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.

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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't catch the killer killers sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.
20th Jun '16 4:03:49 PM Naram-Sin
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* The Spanish player in ''{{WesternAnimation/Hurricanes}}'' is named Toro (Spanish for "Bull") [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Contrais]]. Though human, he has stereotypical bull-like attributes, being large, bulky, broad-chested, raven-haired and overconfident in the field, and he hails from [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona]]. In one episode he was expelled from the team and he made career as a [[{{Spexico}} luchador]] named "The Masked Matador".

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* The Spanish player in ''{{WesternAnimation/Hurricanes}}'' is named Toro (Spanish for "Bull") [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Contrais]]. Though human, he has stereotypical bull-like attributes, being large, bulky, broad-chested, raven-haired and overconfident in the field, and he hails from [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona]]. In one episode he was expelled from the team and he made career as a [[{{Spexico}} luchador]] named "The Masked Matador".
20th Jun '16 3:58:51 PM Naram-Sin
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* As explained by Art historian Jonathan Brown (see Quotes), the main TropeMaker, at least in the US, is Washington Irving (through his ''Christopher Columbus''[[note]]Same that started the "Columbus sailed west to prove the world was round".[[/note]] and ''Tales of the Alhambra'', among others) and the TropeCodifier is Creator/ErnestHemingway's ''Literature/TheSunAlsoRises''. The second is probably the author most likely to be named in a foreign work set in Spain after Miguel de Cervantes (Creator/GeorgeOrwell if said work is political).

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* As explained by Art historian Jonathan Brown (see Quotes), the main TropeMaker, at least in the US, is Washington Irving (through his ''Christopher Columbus''[[note]]Same that started the "Columbus sailed west to prove the world was round".round" myth.[[/note]] and ''Tales of the Alhambra'', among others) and the TropeCodifier is Creator/ErnestHemingway's ''Literature/TheSunAlsoRises''. The second is probably the author most likely to be named in a foreign work set in Spain after Miguel de Cervantes (Creator/GeorgeOrwell if said work is political).
20th Jun '16 3:56:08 PM Naram-Sin
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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't get the killer sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.

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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't get catch the killer sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.
20th Jun '16 3:19:16 PM Naram-Sin
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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't get the killer sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.
* The first time ''{{Series/Alias}}'' went to Spain ("Parity"/"A Broken Heart") was pretty jarring. Sydney infiltrates a Madrid mansion by posing as a party guest with a long, dyed red mane, long, revealing red dress, a black and red fan and an explosive disguised in a 5 pesetas coin (from the 1980s... [[AnachronismStew two years after Spain switched to Euro]]). She uses the explosive to cause a distraction and steals a Medieval codex from a security room, whose information sends her to a Baroque church in Malaga. All while a Flamenco-inspired version of OneWomanWail thunders in the background. They wished up a bit in later seasons, either keeping the stereotypes in the places they are actually from (a Flamenco show in Seville, an expat's country villa somewhere in Andalusia, a nightclub in Ibiza) or making the Spanish locations so generic they could be anywhere (a dock, a hotel, a bio-weapons research lab...).
19th Jun '16 8:37:02 AM Naram-Sin
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Meanwhile, the [[RegionalRiff music department]] will invariably and uniformingly consist of Flamenco, or something aiming to sound like Flamenco, with Spanish guitar, castanets, tap-dancing and "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cante_jondo deep song]]". In RealLife, this music style originated in Andalusia and the city of Seville in particular. Elsewhere in Spain, it is practically a niche genre associated with Gypsies and Andalusian immigrants and their descendants.

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Meanwhile, the [[RegionalRiff music department]] will invariably and uniformingly consist of Flamenco, or something aiming to sound like Flamenco, with Spanish guitar, castanets, tap-dancing and "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cante_jondo deep song]]". In RealLife, this music style originated in Andalusia and the city of Seville in particular. Elsewhere in Spain, it is practically a niche genre associated with Gypsies[[note]]Almost half of Spain's Gypsies live in Andalusia[[/note]] and Andalusian immigrants and their descendants.
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