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25th Nov '16 2:49:40 AM Naram-Sin
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* An episode of ''Series/RelicHunter'' has Sydney and Nigel in a rush to meet a professor in a Spanish university because according to them, siesta time will begin in 20 minutes and then everything will stop working.

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* An episode of ''Series/RelicHunter'' has Sydney and Nigel in a rush to meet a professor in a Spanish university because according to them, siesta time will begin in 20 minutes and then everything the whole country will stop working.start napping.
** Despite the episode actually being shot in location around Seville, the scenes of Sydney and Nigel travelling to Seville were shot in a 19th century steam train catered to tourists. In real life they would have flown directly to Seville or to Madrid and then taken the train to Seville, which is a high-speed line, but God forbid anyone showing 21st century Spain as being in the 21st century.
** The reason the [[SecretHistory Spanish]] [[MacGuffin Crown Jewels]] got lost in the first place? The courier carrying the instructions to locate them was killed by a jealous Andalusian innkeeper after he caught him [[LatinLover sleeping with his wife]].
22nd Nov '16 6:48:26 PM Naram-Sin
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* ''Series/EmptyNest'': In "Harry's Excellent Adventure", Harry travels with his brother to Pamplona for the Running of the Bulls. They hang in a very narrow and typically Mediterranean whitewashed alley, [[{{Spexico}} drinking tequila]], until the bull herd suddenly runs on them unnanounced and they have to flee.

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* ''Series/EmptyNest'': In "Harry's Excellent Adventure", Harry travels with his brother to Pamplona for the Running of the Bulls. They hang in a very narrow and typically Mediterranean whitewashed alley, [[{{Spexico}} drinking tequila]], until the bull herd suddenly runs on them unnanounced and they have to flee. On the wall behind there is a poster announcing a corrida with Gitanillo de Triana and Manolete, two bullfighters that died on the arena in 1931 and 1947, respectively.
22nd Nov '16 6:41:45 PM Naram-Sin
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* ''Series/EmptyNest'': In "Harry's Excellent Adventure", Harry travels with his brother to Pamplona for the Running of the Bulls. They hang in a very narrow and typically Mediterranean whitewashed alley, [[{{Spexico}} drinking tequila]], until the bull herd suddenly runs on them unnanounced and they have to flee.
8th Nov '16 9:21:56 AM Naram-Sin
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* Creator/SidneySheldon's ''The Sands of Time'' grabs this trope hard in the first line of the prologue and doesn't let it go until the end of the epilogue, 400 pages later. Colorfully-costumed gypsies traveling in wooden wagons are a common sight in 1970s Segovia[[note]]We only have a couple mentions that Franco died the year before as hints of this; otherwise, the prologue and epilogue push the idea that the book is set in the modern day (1988 at the time it was released) and the description of the place is halfway between Hemingway's ''For whom the bell tolls'' and Mérimée's ''Carmen''[[/note]], everyone is a fan of El Cid, the only source of entertainment is bullfighting-related,[[note]]a special mention is deserved by the version of [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona's Running]] that opens the book, [[WritersHaveNoSenseOfScale with bulls knocking down statues and chunks of buildings]][[/note]] the only dance is flamenco, the only meals are chorizo, gazpacho and paella, and the only thing resembling political activism is done by the Catholic Church (which is portrayed as the mortal enemy of the [[UsefulNotes/TheFrancoRegime Francoist dictatorship]] and [[ArtisticLicenseHistory every Spanish government of the past 300 years]] ''except'' for the [[CriticalResearchFailure Second Republic]]). The main plot follows four [[AuthorAppeal sexually repressed]] HollywoodNuns [[NunTooHoly as they ride shotgun]] with a group of [[WillTheyOrWontThey alluring]] LovableRogue [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters ETA terrorists]] as they travel through the Guadarrama mountains killing fascists and being cheered on by the people, {{Zorro}}-style.

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* Creator/SidneySheldon's ''The Sands of Time'' grabs this trope hard in the first line of the prologue and doesn't let it go until the end of the epilogue, 400 pages later. Colorfully-costumed gypsies traveling in wooden wagons are a common sight in 1970s Segovia[[note]]We only have a couple mentions that Franco died the year before as hints of this; otherwise, the prologue and epilogue push the idea that the book is set in the modern day (1988 at the time it was released) and the description of the place is halfway between Hemingway's ''For whom the bell tolls'' and Mérimée's ''Carmen''[[/note]], everyone is a fan of El Cid, the only source of entertainment is bullfighting-related,[[note]]a special mention is deserved by the version of [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona's Running]] that opens the book, [[WritersHaveNoSenseOfScale with bulls knocking down statues and chunks of buildings]][[/note]] the only dance is flamenco, the only meals are chorizo, gazpacho and paella, and the only thing resembling political activism is done by the Catholic Church (which is portrayed as the mortal enemy of the [[UsefulNotes/TheFrancoRegime Francoist dictatorship]] and [[ArtisticLicenseHistory every Spanish government of the past 300 years]] ''except'' for the [[CriticalResearchFailure Second Republic]]). The main plot follows four [[AuthorAppeal sexually repressed]] HollywoodNuns [[NunTooHoly as they ride shotgun]] with a group of [[WillTheyOrWontThey alluring]] LovableRogue [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters ETA terrorists]] as while they travel through the Guadarrama mountains killing fascists and being cheered on by the people, {{Zorro}}-style.
21st Oct '16 4:03:29 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Pamplona covered in multicolored flags, the only ones that are real being actually [[TheyJustDidntCare the national flag of Barbados.]]

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** Pamplona covered in multicolored flags, the only ones that are real being actually [[TheyJustDidntCare the national flag of Barbados.]]
6th Oct '16 1:05:15 PM StFan
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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}} in Spain'' plays with the trope. There are "aurochs" (bulls), and Asterix acts like a matador when he fights with one, but most of the setting is traditional roman cities, no much different than the ones in other comics. There is a band of gypsies and Obelix dances flamenco, however. Partly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because Asterix is set in 50 B.C. (so it's not like making 21st century cities look like 18th century ones).
** Doesn't excuse the fact there are gyps... ahem, "nomads" and flamenco [[AnachronismStew hundreds of years before]] any of them arrived in Spain (but then again, [[PresentDayPast this is Asterix]] we are talking about).
*** Strabo and Roman sources like Juvenal or Pliny actually talk about the ''puellae gaditanae'', women from Gades (today's Cádiz) or otherwise in the Baetica who were famous for their dances two centuries BC, even using metal castanets (''crusmata baetica''). I kid you not.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}} in Spain'' plays with the trope. There are "aurochs" (bulls), and Asterix acts like a matador when he fights with one, but most of the setting is traditional roman cities, no much different than the ones in other comics. There is a band of gypsies and Obelix dances flamenco, however. Partly [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because Asterix is set in 50 B.C. (so it's not like making 21st century cities look like 18th century ones).
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ones). Doesn't excuse the fact there are gyps... ahem, "nomads" and flamenco [[AnachronismStew hundreds of years before]] any of them arrived in Spain (but then again, [[PresentDayPast this is Asterix]] we are talking about).
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* WaltDisney's ''WesternAnimation/FerdinandTheBull'' short. ([[AdaptationDisplacement And the book it was based on.]])
* The WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse short ''WesternAnimation/AlRojoVivo'' takes place during the Running of the Bulls. It also includes another Spanish festival, La Tomatina (the one where they [[FoodFight throw tomatoes at each other]]), which takes place in a different town and at another time of year.



* ''TheRoadToEldorado'''s first scene is in Barcelona ([[ArtisticLicenseHistory though there was no real reason why]]) and features a rampaging bull (because, again).

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* ''TheRoadToEldorado'''s ''WesternAnimation/TheRoadToEldorado'''s first scene is in Barcelona ([[ArtisticLicenseHistory though there was no real reason why]]) and features a rampaging bull (because, again).



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* Creator/WaltDisney's ''WesternAnimation/FerdinandTheBull'' short. ([[AdaptationDisplacement And the book it was based on.]])
* The ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse2013'' short "[[Recap/MickeyMouseS2E16AlRojoVivo Al Rojo Vivo]]" takes place during the Running of the Bulls. It also includes another Spanish festival, La Tomatina (the one where they [[FoodFight throw tomatoes at each other]]), which takes place in a different town and at another time of year.



4th Oct '16 6:48:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* Invoked in "My Little Castagnette", in ''TheDesertSong''.

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* Invoked in "My Little Castagnette", in ''TheDesertSong''.''Theatre/TheDesertSong''.
22nd Sep '16 9:58:03 AM Naram-Sin
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* Already in the 1860s, the French writer Jean-Charles Davillier complained that there weren't as many ''mantillas'' and gypsy dancers in the Spain he visited as previous travel literature had let him to believe.

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* Already in the 1860s, the French writer Jean-Charles Davillier complained that there weren't as many ''mantillas'' and gypsy dancers in the Spain he visited as previous travel literature had let led him to believe.
19th Sep '16 12:22:15 PM Naram-Sin
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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with the title itself. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they can't catch the killers sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", even after they have fallen in disgrace. Throw in some bizarre references to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.

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* The episode "El Toro Bravo" of ''CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', ''Series/CriminalMindsBeyondBorders'', starting with [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin the title itself.itself]]. Two killers involved in the bullfighting business see themselves as a master and apprentice matador when they "bullfight" foreign tourists who disrespect the bulls or the festival itself during [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans the Running of the Bulls of Pamplona]]. And they the police can't catch the killers sooner because everyone in Spain is a sucker to the Catholic Church and "[[AristocratsAreEvil [[AristocratsAreEvil old names]]", names]], even after they have [[ImpoverishedPatrician fallen in disgrace. disgrace]]. Throw in some [[SymbologyResearchFailure bizarre references references]] to ''Literature/DonQuixote'' and Basque nationalism, a bit of techno-Flamenco in the beginning and bullfighting-inspired music at the end and you have your Spanish episode.
19th Sep '16 12:13:11 PM Naram-Sin
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* Prosper Merimee's ''Theatre/{{Carmen}}'', especially the opera by Georges Bizet, is one of the oldest examples of this trope.

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* Prosper Merimee's ''Theatre/{{Carmen}}'', especially Mérimée's ''Carmen'' (published 1847 and [[RippedFromTheHeadlines based on an anecdote from 1830]]), and [[AdaptationDisplacement especially]] the opera [[{{Theatre/Carmen}} 1870 opera]] by Georges Bizet, is one of the oldest examples of this trope.



* Creator/SidneySheldon's ''The Sands of Time'' grabs this trope hard in the first line of the prologue and doesn't let it go until the end of the epilogue, 400 pages later. Colorfully-costumed gypsies traveling in wooden wagons are a common sight in Segovia, everyone is a fan of El Cid, the only source of entertainment is bullfighting-related (special nod to the version of [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona's Running]] that opens the book, [[WritersHaveNoSenseOfScale with bulls knocking down statues and chunks of buildings]]), the only dance is flamenco, the only meals are chorizo, gazpacho and paella, and the only thing remotely close to politics is done by the Catholic Church. The main plot follows four [[AuthorAppeal sexually repressed]] nuns [[NunTooHoly riding shotgun]] with a group of [[WillTheyOrWontThey alluring]] LovableRogue ETA terrorists as they travel through the Guadarrama mountains while killing fascists and being cheered on by the people, {{Zorro}}-style. To say that the novel is [[TheyJustDidntCare one big pile]] of CriticalResearchFailure after another is an {{Understatement}}.

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* Creator/SidneySheldon's ''The Sands of Time'' grabs this trope hard in the first line of the prologue and doesn't let it go until the end of the epilogue, 400 pages later. Colorfully-costumed gypsies traveling in wooden wagons are a common sight in Segovia, 1970s Segovia[[note]]We only have a couple mentions that Franco died the year before as hints of this; otherwise, the prologue and epilogue push the idea that the book is set in the modern day (1988 at the time it was released) and the description of the place is halfway between Hemingway's ''For whom the bell tolls'' and Mérimée's ''Carmen''[[/note]], everyone is a fan of El Cid, the only source of entertainment is bullfighting-related (special nod to bullfighting-related,[[note]]a special mention is deserved by the version of [[ItsAlwaysMardiGrasInNewOrleans Pamplona's Running]] that opens the book, [[WritersHaveNoSenseOfScale with bulls knocking down statues and chunks of buildings]]), buildings]][[/note]] the only dance is flamenco, the only meals are chorizo, gazpacho and paella, and the only thing remotely close to politics resembling political activism is done by the Catholic Church. Church (which is portrayed as the mortal enemy of the [[UsefulNotes/TheFrancoRegime Francoist dictatorship]] and [[ArtisticLicenseHistory every Spanish government of the past 300 years]] ''except'' for the [[CriticalResearchFailure Second Republic]]). The main plot follows four [[AuthorAppeal sexually repressed]] nuns HollywoodNuns [[NunTooHoly riding as they ride shotgun]] with a group of [[WillTheyOrWontThey alluring]] LovableRogue [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters ETA terrorists terrorists]] as they travel through the Guadarrama mountains while killing fascists and being cheered on by the people, {{Zorro}}-style. To say that the novel is [[TheyJustDidntCare one big pile]] of CriticalResearchFailure after another is an {{Understatement}}.{{Zorro}}-style.


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* Already in the 1860s, the French writer Jean-Charles Davillier complained that there weren't as many ''mantillas'' and gypsy dancers in the Spain he visited as previous travel literature had let him to believe.
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