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19th Sep '17 11:45:27 AM azul120
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* Pulled not once, but ''three times'' in ''{{LightNovel/Durarara}}'', each time proving our OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent protagonists to be [[BewareTheNiceOnes not quite so ordinary]]: [[spoiler:first, shy, naive Mikado turns out to be the founder and leader of the Dollars, then ShrinkingViolet Anri is not only in possession of the original Saika, but she's been keeping it under control for the past ''five years'', and ''then'' easy-going, bad-joke-cracking Masaomi is the ex-general of the Yellow Scarves.]] Whew! Made even better when you watch the anime back through again, and realize that ''all the clues are there'' for you to figure it out yourself.

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* Pulled not once, but ''three times'' in ''{{LightNovel/Durarara}}'', ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}'', each time proving our OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent protagonists to be [[BewareTheNiceOnes not quite so ordinary]]: [[spoiler:first, shy, naive Mikado turns out to be the founder and leader of the Dollars, then ShrinkingViolet Anri is not only in possession of the original Saika, but she's been keeping it under control for the past ''five years'', and ''then'' easy-going, bad-joke-cracking Masaomi is the ex-general of the Yellow Scarves.]] Whew! Made even better when you watch the anime back through again, and realize that ''all the clues are there'' for you to figure it out yourself.



* Lateral-thinking puzzles often involve a TomatoSurprise; the point of the riddle is to get the listener to challenge their default assumptions. (Some find this infuriating, since the riddles' solutions are often extremely far-fetched and difficult to reach; a common complaint is that there are often solutions that require fewer assumptions than the "official" answer. This is somewhat lessened when the listener is able to ask yes-and-no questions of the riddlemaster.) Some examples:

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* Lateral-thinking puzzles often involve a TomatoSurprise; Tomato Surprise; the point of the riddle is to get the listener to challenge their default assumptions. (Some find this infuriating, since the riddles' solutions are often extremely far-fetched and difficult to reach; a common complaint is that there are often solutions that require fewer assumptions than the "official" answer. This is somewhat lessened when the listener is able to ask yes-and-no questions of the riddlemaster.) Some examples:
6th Sep '17 5:58:22 PM wingedcatgirl
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** A boy and his father are in a car. It gets into a terrible accident. The father is killed outright. The boy is critically injured and rushed to the hospital. In the operating room, the doctor looks down and says "My God! This is my son!" How is this possible? [[spoiler: The doctor is the boy's mother, you sexist pig.]]

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** A boy and his father are in a car. It gets into a terrible accident. The father is killed outright. The boy is critically injured and rushed to the hospital. In the operating room, the doctor looks down and says "My God! This is my son!" How is this possible? [[spoiler: The Either the boy HasTwoDaddies, or the doctor is the boy's mother, you sexist pig.his mother.]]
4th Sep '17 7:47:23 AM LB7979
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* The ''Series/{{Lost}}'' episode "Walkabout" hinges on the revelation at its end that Locke was in a wheelchair before the plane crash. In all flashbacks he is sitting at a desk or table, or lying in bed.

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* The ''Series/{{Lost}}'' did this often:
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episode "Walkabout" hinges on the revelation at its end that Locke was in a wheelchair before the plane crash. In all flashbacks he is sitting at a desk or table, or lying in bed.bed, to conceal this.



** ''Series/{{Lost}}'' did this more than once. Another noteworthy example is the season 3 finale, "Through the Looking Glass", which features a series of seemingly traditional flashbacks for Jack, one of the main characters... until he [[spoiler:meets Kate at the end of the episode, revealing that all the "flashback" scenes in this episode were actually flash-''forwards''.]]
** And then there's the season 4 episode "Ji Yeon", which appears to feature [[spoiler:flash-forwards for Jin and Sun, who apparently both left the island... until it turns out that Jin's scenes are actually flash''backs'', and he never left the island, but is considered ''dead'' by his wife Sun.]]

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** ''Series/{{Lost}}'' did this more than once. Another noteworthy example is the The season 3 finale, "Through the Looking Glass", which features a series of seemingly traditional flashbacks for Jack, one of the main characters... until he [[spoiler:meets Kate at the end of the episode, revealing that all the "flashback" scenes in this episode were actually flash-''forwards''.]]
** And then there's the The season 4 episode "Ji Yeon", which Yeon" appears to feature [[spoiler:flash-forwards for Jin and Sun, who apparently both left the island... until it turns out that Jin's scenes are actually flash''backs'', and he never left the island, but is considered ''dead'' by his wife Sun.]]
5th Aug '17 11:09:36 PM bfunc
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* Even before the Tomato Surprise, it's clear The People in A. Bertram Chandler's ''Giant Killer'' aren't normal humans (among other things, one of the "hideously deformed mutants" whose names describe their mutations is called No-Tail), but knowing what and where they actually are [[spoiler:(sentient rats on a spaceship}]] causes a perspective shift that turns it into almost an entirely different story.

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* Even before the Tomato Surprise, it's clear The People in A. Bertram Chandler's ''Giant Killer'' aren't normal humans (among other things, one of the "hideously deformed mutants" whose names describe their mutations is called No-Tail), but knowing what and where they actually are [[spoiler:(sentient rats on a spaceship}]] spaceship)]] causes a perspective shift that turns it into almost an entirely different story.
1st Aug '17 2:25:06 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''SilentHill'' series:
** Alex from ''SilentHillHomecoming'' [[spoiler:wasn't in the army, he was in an insane asylum.]] Was M. Night Shyamalan a writer for these games!?
** ''SilentHillShatteredMemories'', an AlternateContinuity re-imagining of the original ''SilentHill'', actually takes a unique approach with this trope with respect to the rest of the series. The plot is as basic as it gets and follows the same premise as the original: Harry Mason was in a car crash and is now traversing the town looking for his lost 7-year-old daughter Cheryl, and along the way he's accosted by all sorts of demented-looking monsters. The game is punctuated by first-person, interactive "therapy sessions" that are set some time after the events of the game. The last scene of the game? [[spoiler:You find out that said therapy sessions are happening in the present, ''and'' it's not Harry who's the patient but ''25-year-old'' Cheryl. It turns out Harry died in the car crash, which was actually 18 years ago (as opposed to "earlier that day" from your characters perspective,) but the real kicker is that your character isn't even Harry's ghost; the entire game was apparently a metaphorical journey through Cheryl's psyche as she underwent therapy, and your character faces the harsh reality that he's nothing more than a delusion in Cheryl's mind.]]

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* ''SilentHill'' ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series:
** Alex from ''SilentHillHomecoming'' ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'' [[spoiler:wasn't in the army, he was in an insane asylum.]] Was M. Night Shyamalan a writer for these games!?
** ''SilentHillShatteredMemories'', ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'', an AlternateContinuity re-imagining of the original ''SilentHill'', ''VideoGame/SilentHill1'', actually takes a unique approach with this trope with respect to the rest of the series. The plot is as basic as it gets and follows the same premise as the original: Harry Mason was in a car crash and is now traversing the town looking for his lost 7-year-old daughter Cheryl, and along the way he's accosted by all sorts of demented-looking monsters. The game is punctuated by first-person, interactive "therapy sessions" that are set some time after the events of the game. The last scene of the game? [[spoiler:You find out that said therapy sessions are happening in the present, ''and'' it's not Harry who's the patient but ''25-year-old'' Cheryl. It turns out Harry died in the car crash, which was actually 18 years ago (as opposed to "earlier that day" from your characters character's perspective,) but the real kicker is that your character isn't even Harry's ghost; the entire game was apparently a metaphorical journey through Cheryl's psyche as she underwent therapy, and your character faces the harsh reality that he's nothing more than a delusion in Cheryl's mind.]]
15th Jul '17 4:15:38 PM Kayube
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has a huge one. [[spoiler: At the beginning of the game, you're asked to name the Fallen Child. Most players assume this is the character they would be playing as. Near the end of the game, you find out that the child you named is not the one you were controlling, but the very first child that had fallen down the mountain. Not only that, but you also learn that the first child did some really nasty things and was generally not a nice person before they succumbed to an illness. This also has the Game Over screen make more sense since the voice calling out to the named child is begging them to stay strong and determined throughout the illness. Depending on your actions in the game, the named child is either given more backstory to their hatred while revealing the true name of the playable protagonist or said child reincarnates and destroys everything like it was just a game and moves onto the next one, signifying their link to the player.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has a huge one. [[spoiler: At the beginning of the game, you're asked to name the Fallen Child. Most players assume this is the character they would be playing as.as, and the user interface goes along with that by putting the name on the save file and the battle screen. Near the end of the game, you find out that the child you named is not the one you were controlling, but the very first child that had fallen down the mountain. Not only that, but you also learn that the first child did some really nasty things and was generally not a nice person before they succumbed to an illness. This also has the Game Over screen make more sense since the voice calling out to the named child is begging them to stay strong and determined throughout the illness. Depending on your actions in the game, the named child is either given more backstory to their hatred while revealing the true name of the playable protagonist or said child reincarnates and destroys everything like it was just a game and moves onto the next one, signifying their link to the player.]]
18th Jun '17 10:16:01 AM hubakon1368
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* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQr0HCIN2w this]] collaboration with WebVideo/FreddieWong and Series/KeyAndPeele.
* ''[[WebAnimation/DorklyOriginals Dorkly]]'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXsSgzKJ0fY Sonic Meets Original Fan Characters]] is revealed at the end to be [[spoiler:a fanfiction by Luigi]].
* In ''Bear Stearns Bravo'', this is PlayedForLaughs when Franco (the main character) [[spoiler:is revealed to be a girl!]]
* The third episode of WebVideo/TheLazerCollection uses this along with DramaticIrony:
** [[spoiler:Randall knows that his own surname is Octogonapus, but the viewer doesn't.]]
** [[spoiler:At the same time, [[DramaticIrony the]] ''[[DramaticIrony viewer]]'' [[DramaticIrony knows that the villain's name is Doctor Octogonapus, but]] ''[[DramaticIrony Randall]]'' [[DramaticIrony doesn't.]]]]
* [[https://youtu.be/wpfbuAVmYhU This]] satirical video from the Website/YouTube channel "Circlejerk" (devoted to parodying Website/{{Reddit}}) starts out like a typical rant about "social justice warriors" but ultimately reveals that one of the SJW Reddit moderators is actually [[spoiler:Wrestling/JohnCena (see the "Radio" section above)]].



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* PlayedForLaughs in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQr0HCIN2w this]] collaboration with WebVideo/FreddieWong and Series/KeyAndPeele.
* ''[[WebAnimation/DorklyOriginals Dorkly]]'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXsSgzKJ0fY Sonic Meets Original Fan Characters]] is revealed at the end to be [[spoiler:a fanfiction by Luigi]].
* In ''Bear Stearns Bravo'', this is PlayedForLaughs when Franco (the main character) [[spoiler:is revealed to be a girl!]]
* The third episode of WebVideo/TheLazerCollection uses this along with DramaticIrony:
** [[spoiler:Randall knows that his own surname is Octogonapus, but the viewer doesn't.]]
** [[spoiler:At the same time, [[DramaticIrony the]] ''[[DramaticIrony viewer]]'' [[DramaticIrony knows that the villain's name is Doctor Octogonapus, but]] ''[[DramaticIrony Randall]]'' [[DramaticIrony doesn't.]]]]
* [[https://youtu.be/wpfbuAVmYhU This]] satirical video from the Website/YouTube channel "Circlejerk" (devoted to parodying Website/{{Reddit}}) starts out like a typical rant about "social justice warriors" but ultimately reveals that one of the SJW Reddit moderators is actually [[spoiler:Wrestling/JohnCena (see the "Radio" section above)]].
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16th Jun '17 6:12:58 AM Arcorann
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* In D. J. [=McHale=]'s ''Pendragon'' series, [[spoiler:Ibara occupies the same physical world as Veelox but is in the future]].

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* In D. J. [=McHale=]'s ''Pendragon'' ''Literature/ThePendragonAdventure'' series, [[spoiler:Ibara occupies the same physical world as Veelox but is in the future]].



** In the episode "Three Days of Snow", Future!Ted tells three stories at the same time: (1) Robin taking Marshall to welcome Lily at the airport, (2) Ted and Barney taking care of the bar, and (3) Lily trying to get some beers to give to Marshall when he welcomes her in the airport. But just when Lily and Marshall get the airport, Future!Ted reveals that [[spoiler: the three stories are taking place on three ''different days'', so Marshall did not meet Lily on day one, he mourned at Ted and Barney's "bar" on day two, and ''seemingly'' nobody was in the airport to welcome Lily on day three. But then Marshall surprises Lily by bringing an entire band to greet her.)]]

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** In the episode "Three Days of Snow", Future!Ted tells three stories at the same time: (1) Robin taking Marshall to welcome Lily at the airport, (2) Ted and Barney taking care of the bar, and (3) Lily trying to get some beers to give to Marshall when he welcomes her in the airport. But just when Lily and Marshall get to the airport, Future!Ted reveals that [[spoiler: the three stories are taking place on three ''different days'', so Marshall did not meet Lily on day one, he mourned at Ted and Barney's "bar" on day two, and ''seemingly'' nobody was in the airport to welcome Lily on day three. But then Marshall surprises Lily by bringing an entire band to greet her.)]]
1st Jun '17 7:46:51 PM PaulA
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* Creator/RobertAHeinlein, "Literature/ColumbusWasADope". Some men are in a bar, discussing the launch of a new space ship. One of the men declares that it's ridiculous for men to go out exploring when everything is fine just the way it is. The title comes from the man saying that Columbus should never have bothered leaving home. [[spoiler: The twist comes when it's revealed in the very last sentence of the story that the whole thing has been taking place on a bar on the Moon.]]
** In a more minor case, ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' reveals on its very final page that "Johnny" Rico is actually ''Juan'' Rico, a Filipino. Nowadays, this is no big deal, but at the time the novel was written nearly all heroes in American SF and war fiction were stereotypical square-jawed white men. (Cf. pretty much any movie from the 50s.) The few non-white heroes were usually black. And then the movie went and [[WTHCastingAgency cast Casper Van Dien]] to play him. [[spoiler: In all fairness, the movie had very little to do with the book anyway- the existing script was only tied in after the film rights were purchased, and where were the giant mech suits?]]

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* Creator/RobertAHeinlein, Creator/RobertAHeinlein:
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"Literature/ColumbusWasADope". Some men are in a bar, discussing the launch of a new space ship. One of the men declares that it's ridiculous for men to go out exploring when everything is fine just the way it is. The title comes from the man saying that Columbus should never have bothered leaving home. [[spoiler: The twist comes when it's revealed in the very last sentence of the story that the whole thing has been taking place on a bar on the Moon.]]
** In a more minor case, ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' reveals on its very final page that "Johnny" Rico is actually ''Juan'' Rico, a Filipino. Nowadays, this is no big deal, but at the time the novel was written nearly all heroes in American SF and war fiction were stereotypical square-jawed white men. (Cf. pretty much any movie from the 50s.) The few non-white heroes were usually black. And then the movie went and [[WTHCastingAgency cast Casper Van Dien]] to play him. [[spoiler: In all fairness, the movie had very little to do with the book anyway- the existing script was only tied in after the film rights were purchased, and where were the giant mech suits?]]
16th May '17 11:58:42 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Shirley Jackson's famous short story "Literature/TheLottery" features a tiny, rural American town with a tradition of holding an annual lottery. The reader starts to suspect that something is wrong when a woman begins to protest when she finds out that someone in her family is going to "win." Things get even more suspicious when the woman protests even more after ''she'' gets selected. [[spoiler:Turns out the "winner" of this lottery is stoned to death as a HumanSacrifice.]]

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* Shirley Jackson's famous short story "Literature/TheLottery" features a tiny, rural American town with a tradition of holding an annual lottery. The reader starts to suspect that something is wrong Things get suspicious when a woman begins to protest when she finds after finding out that someone in her family is going to "win." Things get even more suspicious when the woman win, then protests even more after ''she'' gets selected. [[spoiler:Turns out the "winner" of this lottery is stoned to death as a HumanSacrifice.human sacrifice.]]
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