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* ''Fanfic/ThousandShinji'': [[spoiler:The ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' gods]] changed the past so they never existed. Even so, Chaos Marine Khenmu and his brothers-in-arms keep existing, and [[spoiler:the fragments of the gods]] still existed and remembered the original timeline.
22nd May '16 7:29:12 AM Veanne
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* ''AudioPlay/DoctorWhoovesAdventures'', being a ''Series/DoctorWho'' fanfiction, have a tendency. ''[[BadFuture Traveler]]'' in particular.
22nd May '16 2:58:20 AM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/ACrownOfStars'' tries to avert this. [[PhysicalGod Daniel and Rayana]] explain Shinji and Asuka that they ''technically'' can stop Second Impact and other tragedies... but then Shinji and Asuka would be completely different people, ergo their fixes would be meaningless. So both gods use time-travel to undo the ''consequences'' of those tragedies.
20th May '16 8:25:04 AM madammina
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* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange'' is pretty good about their internal rules. Max can rewind a short time (At most a few minutes) while she remembers what happened before, this is the 'first' time for everyone else. (this allows her to use 'future' conversations in the 'present.' This is also how she can change decisions in one area, but as soon as she leaves, she can't. It's too far to rewind.) However once you move beyond those rules, it starts getting confusing. [[spoiler: Starting with how she freezes time once without explanation and never done again. Time Travel through photographs is completely unexplained. As is the fact that she is 'replacing' her double from that timeline. (though she keeps the memories of 'her' timeline) and she somehow had a vision of the tornado at the end of the game before she got her powers. And one of the two endings heavily implies she wasn't supposed to have the powers in the first place. In fact, several characters theorize that her powers CAUSED the tornado. Despite how she saw the Tornado BEFORE she got the powers, and her powers activated by accident trying to save someone's life. The ending is divisive.]]
4th May '16 11:09:27 AM Tron80
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* In ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'', Shinji and Asuka set to avert [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Third Impact,]] even though it'd mean that [[spoiler:their beloved daughter will never be born.]] In order to avoid this, [[spoiler:[[HumanoidAbomination Kaworu]] sends Aki back in time, but she arrives several months later than her parents.]]
26th Apr '16 10:33:48 AM Scorpion451
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Compare CloseEnoughTimeline. Occasionally, anything involving this may decide to pull out the TemporalParadox card. A TimeCrash is what happens when this ''isn't'' in play. See also NarniaTime. Aside from shape, unrelated to [[BallIndex ball-shaped behavior tropes]] and possibly TheMultiverse. You had better hope it is unrelated to HappyFunBall.

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Compare CloseEnoughTimeline. Occasionally, anything involving this may decide to pull out the TemporalParadox card.card, and/or TheMultiverse. A TimeCrash is what happens when this ''isn't'' in play. See also NarniaTime. Aside from shape, unrelated to [[BallIndex ball-shaped behavior tropes]] and possibly TheMultiverse.tropes]]. You had better hope it is unrelated to HappyFunBall.
22nd Apr '16 7:31:38 AM sorako
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* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'': The fucking up of the entire time-space continuum. Time travel duplicates. Clones? Parents? Putting what is confusing about the time travel involved into words is, in itself, extremely confusing.

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* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'': The fucking up of the entire time-space continuum. Time travel duplicates. Clones? Parents? Trying to trace the law of causality after a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero would cause more brain damage than the combined screws of Quantum Mechanics, Relativity, and Superstring Theory put together! Just one of the results was a situation where thanks to incorporating every single type of TimeTravel, you can't say if it is AlwaysIdenticalTwins, AlternateSelf, IdenticalGrandson, GenerationXerox, CloningBlues, MyOwnGrampa, TangledFamilyTree, EveryoneIsRelated or a blow your brain combo of all of these put together simultaneously! Putting what is confusing about the time travel involved into words is, in itself, extremely confusing.
21st Apr '16 9:39:43 PM sorako
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* ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuper-Heroes''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
** ''Two'' of their enemies. The Time Trapper is arguably even worse, as he's the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the heat death of the universe.

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* ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuper-Heroes''.''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
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''Two'' of their enemies. The Time Trapper is arguably even worse, as he's enemies are the AnthropomorphicPersonification {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of the heat death of the universe.Timey-Wimey Ball.
21st Apr '16 9:38:00 PM sorako
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* Franchise/TheDCU has all sorts of fun here, especially when ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' is involved, but it's been proven time and again that trying to ScrewDestiny usually ends badly. Aside from that, the Timey-Wimey Ball hurts Booster's head as much as it hurts the audience's.

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* Franchise/TheDCU has all sorts of fun here, especially when ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' ComicBook/BoosterGold is involved, but it's been proven time and again that trying to ScrewDestiny usually ends badly. Aside from that, the Timey-Wimey Ball hurts Booster's head as much as it hurts the audience's.



* ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.

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* ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes''.''ComicBook/LegionOfSuper-Heroes''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
21st Apr '16 9:36:05 PM sorako
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* Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/AdamWarlock'', specifically his evil future self The Magus embodies this trope. Adam Warlock met his futureself and immediately The Magus set about trying to ensure Adam would turn into him. This did not work when "Thanos" and the In-Betweener interfered and Adam was given a choice of timelines, wherein he chose the shortest. The Magus appeared again when Adam Warlock attained the Infinity Guantlet and divested himself of his good self (The Goddess) and his evil self (The Magus). The Magus initiated the Infinity War, but was defeated. Later, to seal the Fault in space caused, in part by the Annihilation Wave, The Phalanx Invasion, and the War of Kings, Adam Warlock [[spoiler: who, as he expanded magical energy slowly started turning into The Magus, used an "unused" timeline to repair the fault. That particular "unused" timeline was the one in which he became The Magus.]]



* In the 1980s Marvel ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' comic, one can alter the past to suit the present. However, there is also the possibility that one travels to a different universe that is simply the same as your own. So thus, any attempt to travel back in time to, say, [[spoiler: build a giant cannon to destroy the dark god who created you when he turns his attention to Earth in order to free yourself from his control as Galvatron tried to]], can potentially end in failure as it is not your own universe. [[spoiler: As it turned out, it WAS Galvatron's own universe.]]
* Franchise/TheDCU has all sorts of fun here, especially when ComicBook/BoosterGold is involved, but it's been proven time and again that trying to ScrewDestiny usually ends badly. Aside from that, the Timey-Wimey Ball hurts Booster's head as much as it hurts the audience's.
* ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
** ''Two'' of their enemies. The Time Trapper is arguably even worse, as he's the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the heat death of the universe.
* An issue of ''[[Franchise/TheFlash Impulse]]'' had a mad scientist invent a time machine, and attempt to change the past so that he would rule the world. Impulse and Max Mercury go back in time to stop him, but wind up stuck in the far distant past. Max lectures Bart on the ButterflyOfDoom, and how even eating a fish might cause irreparable harm to the future. But then they discover that the mad scientist is now trapped in the past as well. The three of them decide that the best way to get home is ''to cause as much damage and destruction as possible''. Their [[InsaneTrollLogic logic]] is that if they completely change the past, it will alter the future so much that the scientist will never exist, which means he will never invent his time machine, which means they won't have travelled to the past in the first place, which means they won't actually cause any damage at all and find themselves back home. Confused?

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* In the 1980s Marvel ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' comic, one can alter the past to suit the present. However, there is also the possibility that one travels to a different universe that is simply the same as your own. So thus, any attempt to travel back in time to, say, [[spoiler: build a giant cannon to destroy the dark god who created you when he turns his attention to Earth in order to free yourself from his control as Galvatron tried to]], can potentially end in failure as it is not your own universe. [[spoiler: As it turned out, it WAS Galvatron's own universe.]]
* Franchise/TheDCU has all sorts of fun here, especially when ComicBook/BoosterGold ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' is involved, but it's been proven time and again that trying to ScrewDestiny usually ends badly. Aside from that, the Timey-Wimey Ball hurts Booster's head as much as it hurts the audience's.
* ''ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}}''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
** ''Two'' of their enemies. The Time Trapper is arguably even worse, as he's the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the heat death of the universe.
* An issue of ''[[Franchise/TheFlash Impulse]]'' had a mad scientist invent a time machine, and attempt to change the past so that he would rule the world. Impulse and Max Mercury go back in time to stop him, but wind up stuck in the far distant past. Max lectures Bart on the ButterflyOfDoom, and how even eating a fish might cause irreparable harm to the future. But then they discover that the mad scientist is now trapped in the past as well. The three of them decide that the best way to get home is ''to cause as much damage and destruction as possible''. Their [[InsaneTrollLogic logic]] is that if they completely change the past, it will alter the future so much that the scientist will never exist, which means he will never invent his time machine, which means they won't have travelled to the past in the first place, which means they won't actually cause any damage at all and find themselves back home. Confused?
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** [[Characters/TheFlashEvilSpeedsters Professor Zoom]] has (retroactively) had his hands on the Timey-Wimey Ball from day one. In a single issue you see him edit his brother, parents, scholarly rival, and lover out of ''his own history'', apparently to make sure he'll actually become the supervillain he is. ItMakesSenseInContext.

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** [[Characters/TheFlashEvilSpeedsters Professor Zoom]] Zoom has (retroactively) had his hands on the Timey-Wimey Ball from day one. In a single issue you see him edit his brother, parents, scholarly rival, and lover out of ''his own history'', apparently to make sure he'll actually become the supervillain he is. ItMakesSenseInContext.



** An issue of ''Impulse'' had a MadScientist invent a time machine, and attempt to change the past so that he would rule the world. Impulse and Max Mercury go back in time to stop him, but wind up stuck in the far distant past. Max lectures Bart on the ButterflyOfDoom, and how even eating a fish might cause irreparable harm to the future. But then they discover that the mad scientist is now trapped in the past as well. The three of them decide that the best way to get home is ''to cause as much damage and destruction as possible''. Their [[InsaneTrollLogic logic]] is that if they completely change the past, it will alter the future so much that the scientist will never exist, which means he will never invent his time machine, which means they won't have travelled to the past in the first place, which means they won't actually cause any damage at all and find themselves back home. Confused?
* ''ComicBook/GoldDigger'': With all the dimension-hopping, time-traveling technology in Gold Digger, naturally there's a lot of Timey-Wimey Ball action going on. However, of special note is issue #50 of the color series, which features an artifact that is an ''actual ball of string that can warp time and space''.
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': In ''Iznogoud's Childhood'', Iznogoud experiments a type of time travel in which the present and the past happen at the same time for a while, which he tries to exploit by attempting to get rid of the Caliph's younger self. The whole thing eventually end up being a StableTimeLoop, in which Iznogoud's time travel is what causes his younger self (who UsedToBeASweetKid) to transform into the JerkAss we're familiar with. However, earlier in the comic, Iznogoud stabs younger Wa'at Alaaf to test the time travelling nature, and that case works on a RippleEffect basis, in which adult Wa'at Alaaf shows up with a scar he'd never had.
* ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes''. [[ContinuitySnarl There's three of them.]] One of their enemies, the Infinite Man, is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the Timey-Wimey Ball.
** ''Two'' of their enemies. The Time Trapper is arguably even worse, as he's the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the heat death of the universe.



* Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/AdamWarlock'', specifically his evil future self The Magus embodies this trope. Adam Warlock met his futureself and immediately The Magus set about trying to ensure Adam would turn into him. This did not work when "Thanos" and the In-Betweener interfered and Adam was given a choice of timelines, wherein he chose the shortest. The Magus appeared again when Adam Warlock attained the Infinity Guantlet and divested himself of his good self (The Goddess) and his evil self (The Magus). The Magus initiated the Infinity War, but was defeated. Later, to seal the Fault in space caused, in part by the Annihilation Wave, The Phalanx Invasion, and the War of Kings, Adam Warlock [[spoiler: who, as he expanded magical energy slowly started turning into The Magus, used an "unused" timeline to repair the fault. That particular "unused" timeline was the one in which he became The Magus.]]



* In the 1980s Marvel ''ComicBook/TheTransformers'' comic, one can alter the past to suit the present. However, there is also the possibility that one travels to a different universe that is simply the same as your own. So thus, any attempt to travel back in time to, say, [[spoiler: build a giant cannon to destroy the dark god who created you when he turns his attention to Earth in order to free yourself from his control as Galvatron tried to]], can potentially end in failure as it is not your own universe. [[spoiler: As it turned out, it WAS Galvatron's own universe.]]
* Creator/JohnByrne's run on ''Franchise/WonderWoman'' has a classic example of the rules changing within a story. When Diana's mother becomes the new Wonder Woman, [[Franchise/TheFlash Jay Garrick]] recognises her as the mysterious woman who was involved in ''one'' of his adventures in UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, and who he never really met. When he tells Hippolyta this, she travels to the past in order to maintain the timeline by ensuring everything happens the way Jay remembers. Once she gets there, however, she decides to stick around and become the Golden Age Wonder Woman and a member of the Comicbook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica. History is therefore completely altered after all, but no-one seems to mind.



* ''ComicBook/GoldDigger'': With all the dimension-hopping, time-traveling technology in Gold Digger, naturally there's a lot of Timey-Wimey Ball action going on. However, of special note is issue #50 of the color series, which features an artifact that is an ''actual ball of string that can warp time and space''.
* Creator/JohnByrne's run on ''Franchise/WonderWoman'' has a classic example of the rules changing within a story. When Diana's mother becomes the new Wonder Woman, [[Franchise/TheFlash Jay Garrick]] recognises her as the mysterious woman who was involved in ''one'' of his adventures in UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, and who he never really met. When he tells Hippolyta this, she travels to the past in order to maintain the timeline by ensuring everything happens the way Jay remembers. Once she gets there, however, she decides to stick around and become the Golden Age Wonder Woman and a member of the Comicbook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica. History is therefore completely altered after all, but no-one seems to mind.
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': In ''Iznogoud's Childhood'', Iznogoud experiments a type of time travel in which the present and the past happen at the same time for a while, which he tries to exploit by attempting to get rid of the Caliph's younger self. The whole thing eventually end up being a StableTimeLoop, in which Iznogoud's time travel is what causes his younger self (who UsedToBeASweetKid) to transform into the JerkAss we're familiar with. However, earlier in the comic, Iznogoud stabs younger Wa'at Alaaf to test the time travelling nature, and that case works on a RippleEffect basis, in which adult Wa'at Alaaf shows up with a scar he'd never had.

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* ''ComicBook/GoldDigger'': With all the dimension-hopping, time-traveling technology in Gold Digger, naturally there's a lot of Timey-Wimey Ball action going on. However, of special note is issue #50 of the color series, which features an artifact that is an ''actual ball of string that can warp time and space''.
* Creator/JohnByrne's run on ''Franchise/WonderWoman'' has a classic example of the rules changing within a story. When Diana's mother becomes the new Wonder Woman, [[Franchise/TheFlash Jay Garrick]] recognises her as the mysterious woman who was involved in ''one'' of his adventures in UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks, and who he never really met. When he tells Hippolyta this, she travels to the past in order to maintain the timeline by ensuring everything happens the way Jay remembers. Once she gets there, however, she decides to stick around and become the Golden Age Wonder Woman and a member of the Comicbook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica. History is therefore completely altered after all, but no-one seems to mind.
* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': In ''Iznogoud's Childhood'', Iznogoud experiments a type of time travel in which the present and the past happen at the same time for a while, which he tries to exploit by attempting to get rid of the Caliph's younger self. The whole thing eventually end up being a StableTimeLoop, in which Iznogoud's time travel is what causes his younger self (who UsedToBeASweetKid) to transform into the JerkAss we're familiar with. However, earlier in the comic, Iznogoud stabs younger Wa'at Alaaf to test the time travelling nature, and that case works on a RippleEffect basis, in which adult Wa'at Alaaf shows up with a scar he'd never had.



* ''Fanfic/KyonBigDamnHero'' has much more TimeTravel going on than [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya the original]] -- to the point that at any point of story there is at least one open [[StableTimeLoop loop]]. Amusingly, Kyon once [[ShoutOut quoted]] [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]] when trying to explain his understanding of TimeTravel.
* In ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'', the main character Ebony travels back in time to teach a young Voldemort about love. But when she does, the plot really starts to get strange. A few examples are that characters in the past know what will happen in the present, that items will not work in time-periods where its not invented yet and that people can't die outside their native time-period.



* Similarly, ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/471497/chapters/815855 Time v3.0]]'', being a ''Doctor Who'' fanfic that does its best to encompass all the chaotic mess that was the Time War, uses this trope up, down, and sideways.

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* Similarly, ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/471497/chapters/815855 Time v3.0]]'', being a ''Doctor Who'' fanfic ''Fanfic/KyonBigDamnHero'' has much more TimeTravel going on than [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya the original]] -- to the point that does its best to encompass all at any point of story there is at least one open [[StableTimeLoop loop]]. Amusingly, Kyon once [[ShoutOut quoted]] [[Series/DoctorWho the chaotic mess that was the Time War, uses this trope up, down, and sideways.Doctor]] when trying to explain his understanding of TimeTravel.


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* In ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'', the main character Ebony travels back in time to teach a young Voldemort about love. But when she does, the plot really starts to get strange. A few examples are that characters in the past know what will happen in the present, that items will not work in time-periods where its not invented yet and that people can't die outside their native time-period.
* Similarly, ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/471497/chapters/815855 Time v3.0]]'', being a ''Doctor Who'' fanfic that does its best to encompass all the chaotic mess that was the Time War, uses this trope up, down, and sideways.
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