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31st May '16 11:18:59 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Each of the planets in ''TransformersCybertron'' involves an encounter with a threshold guardian, as well as several other points in the show. The most interesting example is Override, whose challenge was neither an illusion nor a fight, but a ''race'' that served as a coming of age for the rookie Hot Shot. Optimus Prime tended to face the other ThresholdGuardians, generally with Leobreaker or Wing Saber.

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* Each of the planets in ''TransformersCybertron'' ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' involves an encounter with a threshold guardian, as well as several other points in the show. The most interesting example is Override, whose challenge was neither an illusion nor a fight, but a ''race'' that served as a coming of age for the rookie Hot Shot. Optimus Prime tended to face the other ThresholdGuardians, generally with Leobreaker or Wing Saber.
29th May '16 4:40:25 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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Compare with SecretTestOfCharacter, in which the obstacle put before the character is a moral one. Although this can shade into that, when the guardian is testing courage, perservance, willingness to listen to advice, or courtesy.

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Compare with SecretTestOfCharacter, in which the obstacle put before the character is a moral one. Although this can shade into that, when the guardian is testing courage, perservance, willingness to listen to advice, or courtesy.
courtesy. Also compare with RedPillBluePill, which is a similar event meant to test the hero's willingness to embark on his adventure in the first place.
22nd May '16 9:52:06 AM Doug86
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* One episode of AdventureTime that barely includes the main characters has [[TheHerosJourney an epic quest playing out]] amidst the roots of their treehouse, with Kent the newly born worm (formerly the tip of his big brother's tail) journeying to forge a sword that can defeat the evil rat king. As he encounters the guardians of the three elements he needs to craft his weapon, each one plays out this trope by offering him a temptation if he gives up the quest. First he turns down "untold wealth" and then "true love" because he only cares about "fighting bad guys" (like the rat king). Finally he turns down "eternal life" because:

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* One episode of AdventureTime ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' that barely includes the main characters has [[TheHerosJourney an epic quest playing out]] amidst the roots of their treehouse, with Kent the newly born worm (formerly the tip of his big brother's tail) journeying to forge a sword that can defeat the evil rat king. As he encounters the guardians of the three elements he needs to craft his weapon, each one plays out this trope by offering him a temptation if he gives up the quest. First he turns down "untold wealth" and then "true love" because he only cares about "fighting bad guys" (like the rat king). Finally he turns down "eternal life" because:
9th Feb '16 6:45:05 PM Paranoia
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* One episode of AdventureTime that barely includes the main characters has [[TheHerosJourney an epic quest playing out]] amidst the roots of their treehouse, with Kent the newly born worm (formerly the tip of his big brother's tail) journeying to forge a sword that can defeat the evil rat king. As he encounters the guardians of the three elements he needs to craft his weapon, each one plays out this trope by offering him a temptation if he gives up the quest. First he turns down "untold wealth" and then "true love" because he only cares about "fighting bad guys" (like the rat king). Finally he turns down "eternal life" because:
--->'''Kent:''' "Well, um, I was just born this morning, so I don't really have a sense of my own mortality"
8th Jan '16 1:15:13 AM Chabal2
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* ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'': Jack finds a portal that will bring him back to the past. Unfortunately, its guardian won't let him through. Even Jack's skill is insufficient to beat him, but as the guardian is about to land the deathblow, the portal talks to him. The guardian lets Jack go, while the portal shows an image of a much older Jack with a BadassBeard and a crown.
--> '''Guardian:''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1mo28G-Ow You can't use it yet,]] Samurai Jack. Not yet. Not yet.
26th Dec '15 5:50:43 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* In the film ''Film/TheNeverEndingStory'', Atreyu is required to pass by two golden sphinxes. As he gets closer to the Threshold Guardian sphinxes, he views the fallen bodies of those who went before him who didn't have the faith to pass. In the movie, "having faith" meant "running really fast".
** The implication is supposed to be that Atreyu essentially lost faith in himself halfway through. Had he kept faith, the Sphinxes never would have opened their eyes. Had he lost faith in himself before starting, they would have opened sooner and blasted him no matter how fast he ran. He seems more or less fine until he sees what was left of the previous visitor -- which is NightmareFuel incarnate, so no wonder he got afraid.
** Creator/MichaelEnde's [[Literature/TheNeverendingStory original book]] portrays the various guardians of the Southern Oracle in a much more dramatic, heart-wrenching fashion.

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* In the film ''Film/TheNeverEndingStory'', ''Film/TheNeverEndingStory'':
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Atreyu is required to pass by two golden sphinxes. As he gets closer to the Threshold Guardian sphinxes, he views the fallen bodies of those who went before him who didn't have the faith to pass. In the movie, "having faith" meant "running really fast".
** The implication is supposed to be that Atreyu essentially lost faith in himself halfway through. Had he kept faith, the Sphinxes never would have opened their eyes. Had he lost faith in himself before starting, they would have opened sooner and blasted him no matter how fast he ran. He seems more or less fine until he sees what was left of the previous visitor -- which is NightmareFuel incarnate, so no wonder he got afraid.
** Creator/MichaelEnde's [[Literature/TheNeverendingStory original book]] portrays the various guardians of the Southern Oracle in a much more dramatic, heart-wrenching fashion.



* ItsAWonderfulLife: Inverted with everyone who offers George the chance to left Bedford Falls. It seems that George does a RefusalOfTheCall every time. The truth is that his true call is staying and looking for his hometown.

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* ItsAWonderfulLife: ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'': Inverted with everyone who offers George the chance to left leave Bedford Falls. It seems that George does a RefusalOfTheCall every time. The truth is that his true call is staying and looking for after his hometown.
11th Dec '15 12:59:09 PM Orbiting
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* ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' has an interest variation where the Guardian guarding the two {{MacGuffin}}s that TheHero and BigBad want is the main character and TheHero's love rival, and thus has a personal stake in who he wants to give the [=MacGuffins=] to or keep one for himself. Rather than physical conflict between TheHero and the Guardian, the story plays out as an emotional conflict between the Guardian and the LoveInterest, while TheHero is mostly powerless.

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* ''Film/{{Casablanca}}'' has an interest interesting variation where the Guardian guarding the two {{MacGuffin}}s that TheHero and BigBad want is the main character and TheHero's love rival, and thus has a personal stake in who he wants to give the [=MacGuffins=] to or keep one for himself. Rather than physical conflict between TheHero and the Guardian, the story plays out as an emotional conflict between the Guardian and the LoveInterest, while TheHero is mostly powerless.
9th Oct '15 2:39:18 PM nombretomado
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** The [[ALoadOfBull Minotaur]] serves as this in [[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians the previous series]].

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** The [[ALoadOfBull Minotaur]] serves as this in [[PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians [[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians the previous series]].
1st Oct '15 8:50:02 PM Willbyr
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* The many Sanctuary challenges in the ''SaintSeiya'' series. Each Gold Saint is a ThresholdGuardian by him/herself.

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* The many Sanctuary challenges in the ''SaintSeiya'' ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' series. Each Gold Saint is a ThresholdGuardian by him/herself.



* ''Literature/DonQuixote'' deconstructs this trope: Where can you find a ThresholdGuardian in RealLife? Why, in that [[CondescendingCompassion condescending moral guardian]] that warns you against the evils of {{escapism}}, {{sex}}, and TheNewRockAndRoll! After the first sally of Don Quixote he is discouraged because he didnít find any [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons dragon]], [[RobeAndWizardHat enchanter]] nor any DamselInDistress. His family asks [[ThoseTwoGuys the curate and the barber]] help as {{Moral Guardian}}s to destroy Don Quixote's delusions, but their CondescendingCompassion makes them pull a RevealingCoverup that involves AWizardDidIt, enforcing the delusions they were intenting to destroy, making them ThresholdGuardians.

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* ''Literature/DonQuixote'' deconstructs this trope: Where can you find a ThresholdGuardian in RealLife? Why, in that [[CondescendingCompassion condescending moral guardian]] that warns you against the evils of {{escapism}}, {{sex}}, {{sex|Tropes}}, and TheNewRockAndRoll! After the first sally of Don Quixote he is discouraged because he didnít find any [[InstantAwesomeJustAddDragons dragon]], [[RobeAndWizardHat enchanter]] nor any DamselInDistress. His family asks [[ThoseTwoGuys the curate and the barber]] help as {{Moral Guardian}}s to destroy Don Quixote's delusions, but their CondescendingCompassion makes them pull a RevealingCoverup that involves AWizardDidIt, enforcing the delusions they were intenting to destroy, making them ThresholdGuardians.
13th Sep '15 4:57:29 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/JasperFforde's ''[[NurseryCrime The Fourth Bear]]'', Jack {{lampshade}}s this by actually ''telling'' the psychologist who is evaluating his fitness for duty that she is serving this role. This throws her into an existential crisis, and Jack relents and comes up with a backstory for her.

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* In Creator/JasperFforde's ''[[NurseryCrime ''[[Literature/NurseryCrime The Fourth Bear]]'', Jack {{lampshade}}s this by actually ''telling'' the psychologist who is evaluating his fitness for duty that she is serving this role. This throws her into an existential crisis, and Jack relents and comes up with a backstory for her.
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