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22nd Sep '16 9:02:53 PM TheSinful
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** The Burning Legion, while dangerous, has been driven off multiple times by the forces of Azeroth, even killing most of its highest ranking commanders. The ''Legion'' expansion aptly demonstrates how little that matters. Not only has Azeroth only ever faced a tiny fraction of the Legion's forces, but none of those commanders were permanently killed. And now Azeroth is apparently the ''last'' world left to be conquered so the Burning Legion is focusing all of it's forces on them.
22nd Sep '16 2:18:49 PM DarkHunter
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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'': Remember that giant alien warfleet that was shown obliterating Earth as a side effect of its battle against another in the beginning of the game? A portion of which you're fighting on the new planet you're stranded on? Yeah, that wasn't a real army. It was a bunch of criminals. The heroes are rather disturbed to learn that the force that destroyed Earth and nearly drove humanity to extinction is nothing more than a "run-of-the-mill crime syndicate" in a multi-galaxy-spanning civilization.

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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'': Remember that giant alien warfleet that was shown obliterating Earth as a side effect of its battle against another in the beginning of the game? A portion of which you're fighting on the new planet you're stranded on? Yeah, that wasn't a real army. It was a bunch of criminals. The heroes are rather disturbed to learn that the force that destroyed Earth and nearly drove humanity to extinction is nothing more than a "run-of-the-mill crime syndicate" in a multi-galaxy-spanning civilization.
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22nd Sep '16 2:06:09 PM DarkHunter
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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'': Remember that giant alien warfleet that was shown obliterating Earth as a side effect of its battle against another in the beginning of the game? A portion of which you're fighting on the new planet you're stranded on? Yeah, that wasn't a real army. It was a bunch of criminals. The heroes are rather disturbed to learn that the force that destroyed Earth and nearly drove humanity to extinction is nothing more than a "run-of-the-mill crime syndicate" in a multi-galaxy-spanning civilization.
14th Sep '16 8:36:30 PM PaulA
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* In the prequel novels to ''Literature/EndersGame'', the Formics invade with an enormous and powerful starship, which also turns out to be TheMothership to several landers and hundreds of fighters. The invasion is barely stopped with millions dead. Then a girl analyzes astronomical data collected by satellites and realizes it was only a scout ship sent in advance of the real mothership, which is in the process of being cannibalized to build an armada for the real invasion. Of course, since it's a prequel, the outcome is already known.

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* In the prequel novels to ''Literature/EndersGame'', ''Literature/FormicWars'' novels, the Formics invade with an enormous and powerful starship, which also turns out to be TheMothership to several landers and hundreds of fighters. The invasion is barely stopped with millions dead. Then a girl analyzes astronomical data collected by satellites and realizes it was only a scout ship sent in advance of the real mothership, which is in the process of being cannibalized to build an armada for the real invasion. Of course, since it's a prequel, prequel to ''Literature/EndersGame'', the outcome is already known.
14th Sep '16 6:09:29 PM zarpaulus
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May be justified in RealLife as scouts typically don't carry heavy weapons and favor [[FragileSpeedster lightly-armored fast vehicles]] over [[AlmightyGlacier heavy and slow ones]]. Not to mention that [[ZergRush quantity often has a quality of its own.]]

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May be justified in RealLife as scouts typically don't carry heavy weapons and favor [[FragileSpeedster lightly-armored fast vehicles]] over [[AlmightyGlacier [[MightyGlacier heavy and slow ones]]. Not to mention that [[ZergRush quantity often has a quality of its own.]]
14th Sep '16 6:08:56 PM zarpaulus
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Interestingly, in RealLife, it's common for scouts to be particularly BadAss compared to the main force - after all, if the scouts don't return to report back, the main force will be exactly where they started but without the troops that acted as their scouts. So if killing the scouts was so easy, it wouldn't be illogical to assume their main force is a bunch of CannonFodder.

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Interestingly, May be justified in RealLife, it's common for RealLife as scouts to be particularly BadAss compared to the main force - after all, if the scouts typically don't return carry heavy weapons and favor [[FragileSpeedster lightly-armored fast vehicles]] over [[AlmightyGlacier heavy and slow ones]]. Not to report back, the main force will be exactly where they started but without the troops mention that acted as their scouts. So if killing the scouts was so easy, it wouldn't be illogical to assume their main force is [[ZergRush quantity often has a bunch quality of CannonFodder.
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* In the backstory to ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'' Earth was attacked by a Hiver fleet that nearly wiped out the human race but for the launching of Earth's entire nuclear arsenal. But later, as stated in the intro, it turned out that fleet was "only a small nesting fleet, we had yet to see the full power of the swarm." Fortunately, the Hiver Imperium was fighting a SuccessionCrisis at the time and SolForce made an alliance with the Princess who ended up winning the crown jewels.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' the [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Prethoryn Swarm]] is preceded by a vanguard that attempts to establish a foothold in the galaxy before the main force arrives. While the first Unbidden incursion is followed by other factions that will fight each other as readily as the local "prey".
29th Aug '16 3:36:11 PM FordPrefect
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This trope helps to prevent the BadassDecay caused by TheWorfEffect. Even if it was difficult, the heroes ''did'' defeat the big weapon. And when the dozen of weapons show up, it's very clear that the hero has no chances and must flee, so clear that the watcher will not think ill about him for doing that (as he would if the hero escaped when the first lone weapon showed up).

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This trope helps to prevent the BadassDecay caused by TheWorfEffect. Even if it was difficult, the heroes ''did'' defeat the big weapon. And when the dozen of weapons show up, it's very clear that the hero has no chances and must flee, so clear that the watcher will not think ill about him for doing that (as he would if the hero escaped when the first lone weapon showed up).
26th Aug '16 2:58:43 PM EDP
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* {{Subverted}} in the first ''VideoGame/{{Homeworld}}'': the powerful fleet that destroyed Kharak seems geared for being the final enemy, but prisoners quickly point out it's just a small and unimportant frontier force.
26th Aug '16 2:55:34 PM EDP
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** In ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', the human military thinks they will defeat the Zentraedi because they don't realize just how massive the alien armada is. And even then, the only reason they were surviving against the scouts was because the scouts were probing humanity's defenses to learn more about them, rather than just stomping them out of existence. [[spoiler:The Macross Beam that humanity is so proud of on the eponymous ship? ''Every single Zentraedi warship has one.'' They just weren't using them.]]
** One of the final lines of ''Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove'' is a grim statement by Exsedol that, even though they've barely managed to defeat Boddole Zer and Lap Lamiz, there are thousands of other Zentraedi/Meltrandi fleets in the galaxy that are just as powerful still waiting, so the ''real'' hardships are only just beginning.
** Similarly, in ''Anime/MacrossII'', they make the same mistake with the Marduk.

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** In ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', the human military thinks they will defeat the Zentraedi because they don't realize just how massive the alien armada is. And even then, the only reason they were surviving against the scouts was because the scouts were probing humanity's defenses to learn more about them, rather than just stomping them out of existence. [[spoiler:The Macross Beam that humanity is so proud of on the eponymous ship? ''Every single ''Half the Zentraedi warship has warships have one.'' They just weren't using them.]]
]] Also, the mighty fleet they ''barely'' managed to defeat was the ''114th fleet'': there are many others out there, and could show up any time.
** One of the final lines of ''Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove'' is a grim statement by Exsedol that, even though they've barely managed to defeat Boddole Zer and Lap Lamiz, there are thousands of other Zentraedi/Meltrandi fleets in the galaxy that are just as powerful still waiting, so the ''real'' hardships are only just beginning.
beginning. And while in the main continuity there's only one encounter with a largish Meltrandi fleet, in this one there are continuous attacks from Zentraedi and Meltrandi isolated ships and small raiding parties and ''five'' Main Fleets (a Zentraedi fleet in 2036, another Zentraedi and a Meltrandi one in 2037, both interfering with each other, another Zentraedi in 2054, and a fifth in 2082). And then, in 2094, [[Anime/MacrossII the Marduk show up]]...
** Similarly, DoubleSubverted in ''Anime/MacrossII'', ''Anime/MacrossII'': the initial Marduk force is ''immediately'' identified as a scouting force, but when the Marduk later attack in force the hundreds of thousands of the first wave are mistaken for the whole force. Both are {{Justified}}: the initial Marduk squadron is initially mistaken for Zentraedi until they make get a good look at them, and for Zentraedi standard less than a hundred ships can only be a scouting party, and by the same mistake with time the Marduk.Marduk attack in force they've been identified as ''not'' Zentraedi, and by non-Zentraedi standards hundreds of thousands of ships are an enormous number.
8th Aug '16 4:36:14 PM Morgenthaler
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