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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: A well-placed question presents a point that gets someone to reconsider their entire position.
* ArmorPiercingResponse: Same as the above but for a well-placed answer.



* HypocriteHasAPoint: A character judges someone else for doing something they're also guilty of, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about the person they're judging.

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* HypocriteHasAPoint: A character judges someone else for doing something they're also guilty of, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about the person they're judging. (A hypocrite with enough self awareness may argue “AtLeastIAdmitIt!”)
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->''"I wasn't expecting someone so insane to sound so logical."''
-->-- '''Francis''' about Nate, ''ComicStrip/BigNate'', [[https://www.gocomics.com/bignate/2000/08/04 8/4/2000]]
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* CryingWolf: The liar is telling the truth this time; too bad nobody will believe a liar.

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* CryingWolf: The liar is telling the truth this time; too bad nobody will believe a liar.their past lies have ruined their credibility.

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