History Main / ThirdLawOfGenderbending

16th Feb '18 9:00:02 PM thej13579
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* Played with in ''VisualNovel/MaxsBigBustACaptainNekoraiTale''. Max gets turned into a girl and then gets forced to work in Coffee Shrine, but this is only because of her huge tab there. Her male partner is also forced to work there through the use of a temporary GenderBender potion. Other than that, Max is never really forced into any stereotypical feminine behavior. It probably helps that all of Max's female friends are nerdy lesbians.

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* Played with in ''VisualNovel/MaxsBigBustACaptainNekoraiTale''. Max gets turned into a girl and then gets forced to work in Coffee Shrine, but this is only because of her huge tab there. Her male partner is also forced to work there through the use of a temporary GenderBender potion. Other than that, Max is never really forced into any stereotypical feminine behavior. It probably helps that all of Max's female friends are nerdy lesbians.
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16th Feb '18 5:14:01 PM BattleMaster
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[folder:Visual Novels]]
* Played with in ''VisualNovel/MaxsBigBustACaptainNekoraiTale''. Max gets turned into a girl and then gets forced to work in Coffee Shrine, but this is only because of her huge tab there. Her male partner is also forced to work there through the use of a temporary GenderBender potion. Other than that, Max is never really forced into any stereotypical feminine behavior. It probably helps that all of Max's female friends are nerdy lesbians.
30th Jan '18 6:59:23 PM Schol-R-LEA
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** Finally there's Tennyo, who just doesn't seem to care (and is so powerful she doesn't really have to) and Carmilla, who [[EldritchAbomination doesn't really have a human viewpoint anymore.]]

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** Finally there's Tennyo, who is bound to a TimeAbyss [[HumanWeapon Humanoid]] [[PersonOfMassDestruction Weapon of Mass Destruction]]; she just doesn't seem to care (and is so powerful she doesn't really have to) and to). Similarly, there is Carmilla, who [[EldritchAbomination doesn't a [[HalfHumanHybrid half-human]], half-EldritchAbomination demigoddess whose original male form was a disguise imposed on her at birth. Neither of them really have a human viewpoint anymore.]]anymore, so they do just follow gender expectations enough to avoid drawing unwanted attention.
7th Jan '18 9:10:49 PM Robotech_Master
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* The depiction in ''Literature/PrincessHolyAura'' is very subtle, given this isn't the type of story to indulge in broad gender-based clichés or humor. However, even though Holly is at first uncomfortable at being in the girls' locker room during PE class, she's soon acclimated enough to act naturally feminine in such stereotypical situations as going on a date.
18th Dec '17 7:20:09 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/IDreamOfAJeanieBottle'': Jean's ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie''-inspired powers means her clothing reverts to the iconic ''I Dream Of Jeannie'' harem girl outfit whenever she reverts to her base genie form and circumstances always seem to be forcing her to "girlify" her outfit even when she changes it into something else. However, she's also shown experimenting with stereotypical female outfits (Franchise/SailorMoon, WesternAnimation/KimPossible, and [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Rogue]]) in a G-rated ManIFeelLikeAWoman sequence.

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* Played with in ''Webcomic/IDreamOfAJeanieBottle'': Jean's ''Series/IDreamOfJeannie''-inspired powers means her clothing reverts to the iconic ''I Dream Of Jeannie'' harem girl outfit whenever she reverts to her base genie form and circumstances always seem to be forcing her to "girlify" her outfit even when she changes it into something else. However, she's also shown experimenting with stereotypical female outfits (Franchise/SailorMoon, WesternAnimation/KimPossible, and [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[ComicBook/XMen Rogue]]) in a G-rated ManIFeelLikeAWoman sequence.
31st Oct '17 12:11:23 PM Solle
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Characters who change gender typically adopt--or be forced to adopt--"gender appropriate" dress and behavior. Most of the time this means dresses and makeup for a man turned woman and aggressive and macho behavior for a woman turned man. Frequently rationalized as being due to the ''characters'' having stereotypical views of gender roles, particularly when the character in question is depicted as being in need of a [[{{Aesop}} lesson]] in gender equality .

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Characters who change gender sex typically adopt--or be forced to adopt--"gender appropriate" dress and behavior. Most of the time this means dresses and makeup for a man turned woman and aggressive and macho behavior for a woman turned man. Frequently rationalized as being due to the ''characters'' having stereotypical views of gender roles, particularly when the character in question is depicted as being in need of a [[{{Aesop}} lesson]] in gender equality .
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* A masquerade wherein the character is forced by circumstances to adopt stereotypically masculine or feminine attire or behavior, sometimes under duress. (Commonly found in FreakyFridayFlip or similar plots where the character becomes a preexisting person of the opposite gender and must maintain the pretense.) Social mandates such as school or work uniforms may be invoked.

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* A masquerade wherein the character is forced by circumstances to adopt stereotypically masculine or feminine attire or behavior, sometimes under duress. (Commonly found in FreakyFridayFlip or similar plots where the character becomes a preexisting person of the opposite gender another sex and must maintain the pretense.) Social mandates such as school or work uniforms may be invoked.



More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in" (or at least not wanting to stick out), wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike, or wanting to appear attractive to a potential love interest. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.

Since most {{gender bender}}s are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive. Other people may find this notion simply ridiculous, as nothing in a woman's XX chromosomes dictates a need to wear synthetic, factory-produced panty-hose.

Supertrope of TransgenderFetishization, where the third law intersects with RuleThirtyFour. May result in BecomingTheMask or GoingNative depending upon surrounding circumstances. Often precedes the SecondLawOfGenderBending which may stem from this trope, and may result in a ShoppingMontage and/or MakeoverMontage as the new boy or girl (willingly or not) gets "geared up" for life in their new gender.

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More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in" (or at least not wanting to stick out), wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike, or wanting to appear attractive to a potential love interest. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender sex simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] sex]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.

Since most {{gender bender}}s GenderBender characters are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, sex, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior behavior, and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive. Other people may find this notion simply ridiculous, as nothing in a woman's XX chromosomes dictates a need to wear synthetic, factory-produced panty-hose.

Supertrope of TransgenderFetishization, where the third law intersects with RuleThirtyFour. May result in BecomingTheMask or GoingNative depending upon surrounding circumstances. Often precedes the SecondLawOfGenderBending which may stem from this trope, and may result in a ShoppingMontage and/or MakeoverMontage as the new boy or girl (willingly or not) gets "geared up" for life in their new gender.
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26th Sep '17 11:29:52 PM PixelKnight
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->''"What? I'm wearing a skirt, and I have boobs. I'm not going to start worrying about my manly image ''now!''"''

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->''"What? ->''What? I'm wearing a skirt, and I have boobs. I'm not going to start worrying about my manly image ''now!''"''''now!
29th Aug '17 8:19:10 AM Gosicrystal
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* Webcomic/MSFHigh: Surprisingly, generally averted. The only part that's played straight is outfits, and at present there have been no mental changes. Subverted, in fact, with Victoria.

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* Webcomic/MSFHigh: ''Webcomic/MSFHigh'': Surprisingly, generally averted. The only part that's played straight is outfits, and at present there have been no mental changes. Subverted, in fact, with Victoria.
26th Aug '17 4:17:20 AM MentalMouse42
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** In ''Literature/AndEternity'', Orlene is transformed into a man and immediately becomes an aggressive, misogynistic, testosterone-charged boor, attempting to rape her friend Jolie. Upon having her female form restored, she and Jolie are horrified and conclude that "Men have passions that women do not", and that the reason all men are not constantly overwhelmed with violent lust is that "they have learned control".

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** In ''Literature/AndEternity'', Orlene is transformed into a man and immediately becomes an aggressive, misogynistic, testosterone-charged boor, attempting to rape her friend Jolie. Upon having her female form restored, she and Jolie are horrified and conclude that "Men have passions that women do not", and that the reason all men are not constantly overwhelmed with violent lust is that "they have learned control". However, this one is justified in-universe: The "goddess" doing this explains that she is is demonstrating the effects of a HereditaryCurse which causes such bestial behavior in a male victim.
19th Aug '17 10:55:14 PM Gamermaster
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* One chapter of ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' has Ilulu turn Kobayashi into a man. While she acts ([[{{Bifauxnen}} and looks]]) no different than she did before, she notes that she's starting to feel more uncomfortably sexual instincts towards Tohru and Kanna, the latter of which terrified her. It should be noted that Ilulu genderbent her in the first place to enforce the trope; she believed that once turned into a man, Kobayashi would be so overcome with lust that "he" would have no choice but to take it all out on somebody, and Ilulu was perfectly willing to be that "somebody" when the time arose.

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* One chapter of ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' has Ilulu turn Kobayashi into a man. While she acts ([[{{Bifauxnen}} ([[LadyLooksLikeADude and looks]]) no different than she did before, she notes that she's starting to feel more uncomfortably sexual instincts towards Tohru and Kanna, the latter of which terrified her. It should be noted that Ilulu genderbent her in the first place to enforce the trope; she believed that once turned into a man, Kobayashi would be so overcome with lust that "he" would have no choice but to take it all out on somebody, and Ilulu was perfectly willing to be that "somebody" when the time arose.
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