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14th Jul '17 5:53:52 PM nanakiro
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* One chapter of ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' has Ilulu turn Kobayashi into a man. While she acts ([[{{Bifauxnen}} and looks]]) no different than she did before, she notes that she's starting to feel more uncomfortably sexual instincts towards Tohru and Kanna, the latter of which terrified her. It should be noted that Ilulu genderbent her in the first place to enforce the trope; she believed that once turned into a man, Kobayashi would be so overcome with lust that "he" would have no choice but to take it all out on somebody, and Ilulu was perfectly willing to be that "somebody" when the time arose.
23rd Jun '17 3:51:08 PM infernape612
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* In Creator/DavidEddings ''Literature/BelgarathTheSorcerer'', the narrator/protagonist says that the one time he transformed himself into a female animal he found it rather disconcerting because of the "extra internal organs" and "those strange chemicals in the blood", but refused to go into any further details.
* In the novel ''Girl'' by David Thomas, Bradley Barker (the main character) goes into hospital to have his wisdom teeth removed and is given a sex-change operation by mistake. [[FirstLawOfGenderBending Change is permanent]] and the main character [[SecondLawOfGenderBending does get used to being a woman]] [[ThirdLawOfGenderBending through typical dress and actions]], but the novel is surprisingly respectful of the transgender topic despite the comedic plot set-up.

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* In Creator/DavidEddings Creator/DavidEddings' ''Literature/BelgarathTheSorcerer'', the narrator/protagonist says that the one time he transformed himself into a female animal he found it rather disconcerting because of the "extra internal organs" and "those strange chemicals in the blood", but refused to go into any further details.
* In the novel ''Girl'' by David Thomas, Bradley Barker (the main character) goes into hospital to have his wisdom teeth removed and is given a sex-change operation by mistake. [[FirstLawOfGenderBending Change The change is permanent]] and the main character [[SecondLawOfGenderBending does get used to being a woman]] [[ThirdLawOfGenderBending through typical dress and actions]], but the novel is surprisingly respectful of the transgender topic despite the comedic plot set-up.
16th Jun '17 10:23:42 PM nombretomado
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* In a ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' story arc (playing off of ''The Metamorphosis''), Jason dreams of waking up transformed into a girl. He panics at first, but soon experiences desires to go shopping and enjoying the BackstreetBoys. Justified, as we see that Jason has a childish view of girls (which makes sense, as he ''is'' a child).

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* In a ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' story arc (playing off of ''The Metamorphosis''), Jason dreams of waking up transformed into a girl. He panics at first, but soon experiences desires to go shopping and enjoying the BackstreetBoys.Music/BackstreetBoys. Justified, as we see that Jason has a childish view of girls (which makes sense, as he ''is'' a child).
31st May '17 11:07:23 AM fsdfsdfsd
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*** Possibly(?) Justified. It's later suggested that Elliot might be some form of non-binary (indifferent to gender), as he doesn't personally recognize the difference between "man" and "woman" as gender identities beyond the fact that other people say they exist, and thus his definitions of genders are largely shaped by media representation and the behavior of others.
30th Dec '16 11:11:19 PM Seeker718
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Since most {{gender bender}}s are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive.

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Since most {{gender bender}}s are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive. \n Other people may find this notion simply ridiculous, as nothing in a woman's XX chromosomes dictates a need to wear synthetic, factory-produced panty-hose.
19th Sep '16 10:41:15 PM PaulA
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** In ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality... and Eternity'', Orlene is transformed into a man and immediately becomes an aggressive, misogynistic, testosterone-charged boor, attempting to rape her friend Jolie. Upon having her female form restored, she and Jolie are horrified and conclude that "Men have passions that women do not", and that the reason all men are not constantly overwhelmed with violent lust is that "they have learned control".

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** In ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality... and Eternity'', ''Literature/AndEternity'', Orlene is transformed into a man and immediately becomes an aggressive, misogynistic, testosterone-charged boor, attempting to rape her friend Jolie. Upon having her female form restored, she and Jolie are horrified and conclude that "Men have passions that women do not", and that the reason all men are not constantly overwhelmed with violent lust is that "they have learned control".
25th Jul '16 1:26:03 PM JustKnown
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* Initially played dead straight in ''KanojoNiNaruHi'': Mamiya's deep-seated needs to win at all things and always be the master of her emotions causes him to seize femininity with both hands, literally demanding to be treated "like any other girl" in her reintroduction to the class. Deconstructed later when her chief rival/best friend Miyoshi learns her bravado is a brave front covering a great deal of inner grief, turmoil and anguish because so much of her self image was tied up in being the best at physical things she no long has the strength or the fitness to do.
** Subverted and then resconstructed in the sequel''Kanojo Ni Naru Hi Another'' when Sagara, who has not publicly re-indentified as a girl, is pleased by the effect his schoolgirl "disguise" has on his former rival/newfound love interest Narumi. Be it as a boy or girl, looking attractive to Narumi is uppermost in his mind, though he tries to play it off in classic {{tsundere}} fashion by telling himself it's only because skirts are cooler in hot weather.

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* Initially played dead straight in ''KanojoNiNaruHi'': Mamiya's deep-seated needs to win at all things and always be the master of her emotions causes him her to seize femininity with both hands, literally demanding to be treated "like any other girl" in her reintroduction classmates regard her as a girl when she returns to the class. school. Deconstructed later when she breaks down in front of her chief rival/best friend Miyoshi learns and reveals her bravado is just a brave front covering a great deal of inner grief, turmoil and anguish she put up because so much most of her male self image was tied up in being the best at physical things she can no long has the strength or the fitness longer do thanks to do.some concealed GenderBender related health problems.
** Subverted and then resconstructed in the sequel''Kanojo sequel ''Kanojo Ni Naru Hi Another'' when Sagara, who has not publicly re-indentified as a girl, is pleased by the effect his schoolgirl "disguise" has on his former rival/newfound love interest Narumi. Be it as a boy or girl, looking attractive to Narumi is uppermost in his mind, though he tries to play it off in classic {{tsundere}} fashion by telling himself it's only because skirts are cooler in hot weather.
25th Jul '16 11:55:04 AM JustKnown
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* Initially played dead straight in ''KanojoNiNaruHi'': Mamiya's deep-seated needs to win at all things and always be the master of her emotions causes him to seize femininity with both hands, literally demanding to be treated "like any other girl" in her reintroduction to the class. Deconstructed later when her chief rival/best friend Miyoshi learns her brave front is covering a great deal of inner grief, turmoil and anguish.
** Subverted and then resconstructed in the sequel''KanojoNiNaruHiAnother'' when Sagara, who has not (yet) publicly re-indentified as a girl, is quite pleased by the effect his schoolgirl "disguise" has on his former rival/newfound love interest Narumi. Be it as a boy or girl, looking attractive to Narumi is uppermost in his mind.

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* Initially played dead straight in ''KanojoNiNaruHi'': Mamiya's deep-seated needs to win at all things and always be the master of her emotions causes him to seize femininity with both hands, literally demanding to be treated "like any other girl" in her reintroduction to the class. Deconstructed later when her chief rival/best friend Miyoshi learns her bravado is a brave front is covering a great deal of inner grief, turmoil and anguish.anguish because so much of her self image was tied up in being the best at physical things she no long has the strength or the fitness to do.
** Subverted and then resconstructed in the sequel''KanojoNiNaruHiAnother'' sequel''Kanojo Ni Naru Hi Another'' when Sagara, who has not (yet) publicly re-indentified as a girl, is quite pleased by the effect his schoolgirl "disguise" has on his former rival/newfound love interest Narumi. Be it as a boy or girl, looking attractive to Narumi is uppermost in his mind.mind, though he tries to play it off in classic {{tsundere}} fashion by telling himself it's only because skirts are cooler in hot weather.
25th Jul '16 11:32:46 AM JustKnown
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More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in" (or at least not wanting to stick out) or wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.

Since most {{gender bender}}s are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior, and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive.

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More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in" (or at least not wanting to stick out) or out), wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike.dislike, or wanting to appear attractive to a potential love interest. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.

Since most {{gender bender}}s are male-to-female this frequently results in scenes where the newly minted "girl" is confronted with all of the "requirements" of his new gender, which can include [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics skirts, hose, makeup, high heels and other trappings of femininity]] which, while common, are by no means mandatory in real life. This can result in a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop reinforcing stereotypical behavior, behavior and some people may find the notion of underlying biological imperatives enforcing such behavior deeply offensive.


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* Initially played dead straight in ''KanojoNiNaruHi'': Mamiya's deep-seated needs to win at all things and always be the master of her emotions causes him to seize femininity with both hands, literally demanding to be treated "like any other girl" in her reintroduction to the class. Deconstructed later when her chief rival/best friend Miyoshi learns her brave front is covering a great deal of inner grief, turmoil and anguish.
** Subverted and then resconstructed in the sequel''KanojoNiNaruHiAnother'' when Sagara, who has not (yet) publicly re-indentified as a girl, is quite pleased by the effect his schoolgirl "disguise" has on his former rival/newfound love interest Narumi. Be it as a boy or girl, looking attractive to Narumi is uppermost in his mind.
20th Jul '16 2:07:13 PM JustKnown
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Characters who change gender typically adopt "gender appropriate" dress and behavior. Most of the time this means dresses and makeup for a man turned woman and aggressive and macho behavior for a woman turned man. Frequently rationalized as being due to the ''characters'' having stereotypical views of gender roles, particularly when the character in question is depicted as being in need of a [[{{Aesop}} lesson]] in gender equality .

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Characters who change gender typically adopt "gender adopt--or be forced to adopt--"gender appropriate" dress and behavior. Most of the time this means dresses and makeup for a man turned woman and aggressive and macho behavior for a woman turned man. Frequently rationalized as being due to the ''characters'' having stereotypical views of gender roles, particularly when the character in question is depicted as being in need of a [[{{Aesop}} lesson]] in gender equality .



More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in", or wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.

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More sophisticated applications of this trope will often try to find common ground somewhere between these two extremes. It may be as simple as characters wanting or needing to "fit in", in" (or at least not wanting to stick out) or wanting to distance themselves from an identity or past behavior they've grown to dislike. Less sophisticated applications simply apply it without question, or place the characters in an environment where clothing associated with their former gender simply isn't available. Behind the scenes, this trope may be applied to ensure that the characters' problems aren't simply solved by [[RecursiveCrossdressing crossdressing themselves back to their original gender]] and then acting like nothing's changed, thus preserving the drama.
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