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22nd Jan '16 11:07:59 AM Eievie
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22nd Jan '16 11:07:17 AM Eievie
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...Blood, that is. [[LiteralMinded About six times thicker]] in fact.
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...Blood, …blood, that is. [[LiteralMinded About six times thicker]] in fact.

Also frequently invoked ironically, by taking the StockPhrase literally.. And other -- substances can substitute. Often countered by the add-on "but not as refreshing".
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Also frequently invoked ironically, by taking the StockPhrase literally..literally. And other -- substances can substitute. Often countered by the add-on "but not as refreshing".

* In Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse, Night Light refuses to believe that Twilight could have done anything wrong. He sees his daughter's [[spoiler: fugitive status]] as being entirely Trixie's fault - it's actually both of theirs - and is entirely willing to [[DisproportionateRetribution let Ponyville remain in ruins to get back at the latter.]] ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', [[spoiler:Ditzy]] calls him out on it by using her own motherhood to give herself the high ground and deflect his attempts to use this.
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* In Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse, Night Light refuses to believe that Twilight could have done anything wrong. He sees his daughter's [[spoiler: fugitive status]] as being entirely Trixie's fault - -- it's actually both of theirs - -- and is entirely willing to [[DisproportionateRetribution let Ponyville remain in ruins to get back at the latter.]] ''At the Grand Galloping Gala'', [[spoiler:Ditzy]] calls him out on it by using her own motherhood to give herself the high ground and deflect his attempts to use this.

* In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' Princess Anna makes a choice [[spoiler: to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] her life to save Queen Elsa despite the fact the she struck her in the heat and continually shut her out.]] This trope is even stronger because [[spoiler: [[CurseEscapeClause she could have gotten a kiss from Kristoff, which would save Anna at the cost of Elsa's life.]] However, the PowerOfLove saved Anna from her DisneyDeath because her sacrifice was an ActOfTrueLove.]]
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* In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' Princess Anna makes a choice [[spoiler: to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] her life to save Queen Elsa despite the fact the she struck her in the heat heart and continually shut her out.]] This trope is even stronger because [[spoiler: [[CurseEscapeClause she could have gotten a kiss from Kristoff, which would save Anna at the cost of Elsa's life.]] However, the PowerOfLove saved Anna from her DisneyDeath because her sacrifice was an ActOfTrueLove.]]

* Referenced and subverted in ''Film/ThePlayersClub''. When Diana finds her cousin, Ebony, in bed with her boyfriend, she tries to attack Ebony, who hides in the bathroom. Diana then gives a heartfelt speech about how much she loved her cousin and how she thought blood was thicker than water but was apparently wrong. She then pretends to leave...and punches Ebony in the face when she finally comes out of the bathroom.
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* Referenced and subverted in ''Film/ThePlayersClub''. When Diana finds her cousin, Ebony, in bed with her boyfriend, she tries to attack Ebony, who hides in the bathroom. Diana then gives a heartfelt speech about how much she loved her cousin and how she thought blood was thicker than water but was apparently wrong. She then pretends to leave...leave… and punches Ebony in the face when she finally comes out of the bathroom.

** This is the reason Magnus gives when Numeon asks why [[spoiler:a traitor Primarch would intervene to save a loyalist one]] - he claims that with galaxy driven to madness, some values should still be honoured and he wants to be able to [[spoiler:do something for Vulkan one last time.]]
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** This is the reason Magnus gives when Numeon asks why [[spoiler:a traitor Primarch would intervene to save a loyalist one]] - -- he claims that with galaxy driven to madness, some values should still be honoured and he wants to be able to [[spoiler:do something for Vulkan one last time.]]

** Lara Raith is shown to be ''very'' protective of her family, especially her youngest siblings Inari and Thomas. The one exception being Papa Raith after Harry Dresden tricks him into revealing his true feelings for his children while she was listening...
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** Lara Raith is shown to be ''very'' protective of her family, especially her youngest siblings Inari and Thomas. The one exception being Papa Raith after Harry Dresden tricks him into revealing his true feelings for his children while she was listening...listening…

* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', there's Garranon, himself a rather nice guy, who would, as he freely admits, [[KickTheDog torture puppies]] if he needed to in order to keep his brother Landislaw safe. Landislaw is a jerk who constantly gets himself into trouble. And the high king Jakoven is a chronic backstabber, who sent his younger brother to prison, and when confronted with the fact that Ward's cousins actually ''like'' Ward, and want ''him'' to have castle Hurog, immediately suspects a conspiracy against himself, as, clearly, it is ''impossible'' that someone ''wouldn't'' be happy to have their cousin locked up in an asylum for insanes. It highly depends on whom you ask whether blood is thicker than water - the heroic characters are much more firm believers in this trope.
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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', there's Garranon, himself a rather nice guy, who would, as he freely admits, [[KickTheDog torture puppies]] if he needed to in order to keep his brother Landislaw safe. Landislaw is a jerk who constantly gets himself into trouble. And the high king Jakoven is a chronic backstabber, who sent his younger brother to prison, and when confronted with the fact that Ward's cousins actually ''like'' Ward, and want ''him'' to have castle Hurog, immediately suspects a conspiracy against himself, as, clearly, it is ''impossible'' that someone ''wouldn't'' be happy to have their cousin locked up in an asylum for insanes. It highly depends on whom you ask whether blood is thicker than water - -- the heroic characters are much more firm believers in this trope.

*** It's played with, though. Tyson and Percy were already friends, it's just that finding out that one of your best friends is your brother ''and'' a cyclops makes things a bit...awkward between them. It doesn't help that [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer Percy is teased relentlessly about it]]. Subverted when the BigBad of that very book is [[spoiler:Polyphemus, a fellow son of Poseidon, who Tyson and Percy open a can of whup-ass upon.]]
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*** It's played with, though. Tyson and Percy were already friends, it's just that finding out that one of your best friends is your brother ''and'' a cyclops makes things a bit...bit… awkward between them. It doesn't help that [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer Percy is teased relentlessly about it]]. Subverted when the BigBad of that very book is [[spoiler:Polyphemus, a fellow son of Poseidon, who Tyson and Percy open a can of whup-ass upon.]]

* Seen in ''Literature/HarryPotter'', and evident primarily with the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Blacks]], although occurs in several other family as well. Overlaps with {{Family Honor}} in many cases, but not always. ** The term 'blood traitor' is often applied to wizards (primarily purebloods, but not necessarily) who 'betray the family' by going against their ideals. It is considered a highly derogatory term, and is comparable to disownment. It's also worth noting that this 'obedience to family' is a driving force amidst many of the Death Eaters (eg. [[TheDutifulSon Regulus]], the [[FamilyHonor Malfoys]]), and seems to be a major factor in pureblood culture. 'Blood traitor' is also used in a more general sense, to donate those who have gone against the perceived 'societal principles of wizardkind' as well, presumably as a derivative of the above.
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* Seen in ''Literature/HarryPotter'', and evident primarily with the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Blacks]], although occurs in several other family as well. Overlaps with {{Family Honor}} FamilyHonor in many cases, but not always. ** The term 'blood traitor' "blood traitor" is often applied to wizards (primarily purebloods, but not necessarily) who 'betray "betray the family' family" by going against their ideals. It is considered a highly derogatory term, and is comparable to disownment. It's also worth noting that this 'obedience "obedience to family' family" is a driving force amidst many of the Death Eaters (eg. [[TheDutifulSon Regulus]], the [[FamilyHonor Malfoys]]), and seems to be a major factor in pureblood culture. 'Blood traitor' "Blood traitor" is also used in a more general sense, to donate those who have gone against the perceived 'societal "societal principles of wizardkind' wizardkind" as well, presumably as a derivative of the above.

-->'''Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 171.''': ''Blood is thicker than water, and Latinum is thicker than both.'' - an example of using another substance, also an inversion.
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-->'''Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 171.''': ''Blood is thicker than water, and Latinum is thicker than both.'' - -- an example of using another substance, also an inversion.

* TheWire: Avon Barksdale will do anything for kin. Stringer Bell... Not so much. -->'''Stringer Bell:''' "But there go a life that had to be snatched, Avon ''(...)'' Twenty years above his fucking head. [[HeelFaceTurn He'd flip, man!]] They got you, me, and Brianna! No fucking way, man! Hell, no! Now, I know you family, you loved that nigga, but you wanna talk that 'Blood is thicker than water' bullshit, you take that shit somewhere else, nigga! That motherfucker would've taken down the whole fucking show, starting with you, killer!"
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* TheWire: Avon Barksdale will do anything for kin. Stringer Bell... Bell… Not so much. -->'''Stringer Bell:''' "But there go a life that had to be snatched, Avon ''(...)'' ''(…)'' Twenty years above his fucking head. [[HeelFaceTurn He'd flip, man!]] They got you, me, and Brianna! No fucking way, man! Hell, no! Now, I know you family, you loved that nigga, but you wanna talk that 'Blood is thicker than water' bullshit, you take that shit somewhere else, nigga! That motherfucker would've taken down the whole fucking show, starting with you, killer!"

* ''{{Series/Firefly}}'': Picking on either Tam sibling when the other is around is not good for one's health. "Not madness... [[UndyingLoyalty something far more dangerous]]."
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* ''{{Series/Firefly}}'': Picking on either Tam sibling when the other is around is not good for one's health. "Not madness... madness… [[UndyingLoyalty something far more dangerous]]."

* Music/TheBeeGees: In the early 1970s, the three elder Gibb brothers temporarily disbanded due to creative and personal differences. Realizing they had a good thing going – and the fact they were brothers – they realized they had to shore up their relationship. They did, and by the end of the decade, music was never the same again. ** For Barry, Robin and Maurice's little bro', Andy, literally – as he had a No. 1 pop smash in March 1978 with "(Love Is) Thicker Than Water."
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* Music/TheBeeGees: In the early 1970s, the three elder Gibb brothers temporarily disbanded due to creative and personal differences. Realizing they had a good thing going -- and the fact they were brothers -- they realized they had to shore up their relationship. They did, and by the end of the decade, music was never the same again. ** For Barry, Robin and Maurice's little bro', Andy, literally -- as he had a No. 1 pop smash in March 1978 with "(Love Is) Thicker Than Water."

* Aeschylus' Oresteian trilogy pretty much fits the above description to a tee. It chronicles Orestes' attempts to rid his family of a longstanding curse on the orders of Apollo. Unfortunately for him, getting rid of the curse involves killing his mother (who had killed his father who had killed his sister...yeah, it's that kind of story); which of course brings the Furies down on him in full force.
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* Aeschylus' Oresteian trilogy pretty much fits the above description to a tee. It chronicles Orestes' attempts to rid his family of a longstanding curse on the orders of Apollo. Unfortunately for him, getting rid of the curse involves killing his mother (who had killed his father who had killed his sister...sister… yeah, it's that kind of story); which of course brings the Furies down on him in full force.

* In ''VideoGame/LostHorizon'', Lord Weston, governor of Hong Kong, takes this approach towards his missing son. He initially pretends otherwise, making a show out of downplaying his personal investment in the disappearance - he says he can't let the identity of the missing officer affect his duties. In reality, though, he has been secretly cooperating with the Nazis as a backup plan in case Fenton can't (or won't) rescue Richard. He eventually betrays Fenton to the Nazis for this reason.
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* In ''VideoGame/LostHorizon'', Lord Weston, governor of Hong Kong, takes this approach towards his missing son. He initially pretends otherwise, making a show out of downplaying his personal investment in the disappearance - -- he says he can't let the identity of the missing officer affect his duties. In reality, though, he has been secretly cooperating with the Nazis as a backup plan in case Fenton can't (or won't) rescue Richard. He eventually betrays Fenton to the Nazis for this reason.

* Zigzagged with Weiss Schnee, of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''. She dislikes the pressure her father puts on her to be perfect, and tries to avoid talking to him and her sister. But she doesn't tell her friends this, and always acts the dignified heiress in public- presumably because of this trope.
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* Zigzagged with Weiss Schnee, of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''. She dislikes the pressure her father puts on her to be perfect, and tries to avoid talking to him and her sister. But she doesn't tell her friends this, and always acts the dignified heiress in public- public -- presumably because of this trope.

-->''Always my father this and my family that. . . if you loved them that much, why didn't you just stay home in the first place.''
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-->''Always my father this and my family that. . . that… if you loved them that much, why didn't you just stay home in the first place.''

-->'''[[TheMedic Zoidberg]]''': ''Really?'' ''[writing]'' Blood ... thicker ... water.
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-->'''[[TheMedic Zoidberg]]''': ''Really?'' ''[writing]'' Blood ... thicker ... Blood… thicker… water.

--> '''Helga:''' (to herself) "Alas, I ran again, torn between two forces. Arnold's foolish idealism... and my father's unbridled greed. And this time, I fear blood is thicker than water. Oh, curse the day I was born a Pataki!"
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--> '''Helga:''' (to herself) "Alas, I ran again, torn between two forces. Arnold's foolish idealism... idealism… and my father's unbridled greed. And this time, I fear blood is thicker than water. Oh, curse the day I was born a Pataki!"

-->'''Kim:''' We're talking about Shego? ''(thoughtful)'' But I've got to say it ''was'' pretty easy to get that power staff from her....
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-->'''Kim:''' We're talking about Shego? ''(thoughtful)'' But I've got to say it ''was'' pretty easy to get that power staff from her....her…

-->'''Jenny''': After all the bad stuff I said...
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-->'''Jenny''': After all the bad stuff I said...said…

-->[[IceCreamKoan "Blood is thicker than water... but so is toothpaste."]]
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-->[[IceCreamKoan "Blood is thicker than water... water… but so is toothpaste."]]

* In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', after a failed assassination attempt on Unalaq, Tonraq (his brother and the accused for being part of the rebellion) says that even though he and his brother have their differences, he would never harm him in any way. Unalaq, however...doesn't feel the same way. In keeping with the trope, Tonraq chooses to comply with whatever decisions his brother has made in order to prevent conflict, but once he finds out Unalaq was behind his banishment all along, all compromises are off.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', after a failed assassination attempt on Unalaq, Tonraq (his brother and the accused for being part of the rebellion) says that even though he and his brother have their differences, he would never harm him in any way. Unalaq, however...however… doesn't feel the same way. In keeping with the trope, Tonraq chooses to comply with whatever decisions his brother has made in order to prevent conflict, but once he finds out Unalaq was behind his banishment all along, all compromises are off.
20th Jan '16 5:35:08 PM FordPrefect
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler had a younger sister, Paula. After the war, she was interrogated by US intelligence officers, where she said this about Adolf: "The personal fate of my brother affected me very much. He was still my brother, no matter what happened. His end brought unspeakable sorrow to me, as his sister" Contrast to of his family. Several joined the U.S. military, and most changed their names. See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_family the other wiki]] for more info.
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* UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler had a younger sister, Paula. After the war, she was interrogated by US intelligence officers, where she said this about Adolf: "The personal fate of my brother affected me very much. He was still my brother, no matter what happened. His end brought unspeakable sorrow to me, as his sister" Contrast to the rest of his family. Several joined the U.S. military, and most changed their names. See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_family the other wiki]] for more info.

* The original phrase implies the inverse however. The phrase being "the blood of the battlefield[[note]](though occasionally translated as "covenant")[[/note]] is thicker than the water of the womb". So the person who you fought with should be treated better then your own family, or, friends are the family you choose, and therefore take priority. It came from originally a German proverb in the year 1180.
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* The original phrase implies the inverse however. The phrase being "the blood of the battlefield[[note]](though occasionally translated as "covenant")[[/note]] is thicker than the water of the womb". So the person who you fought with should be treated better then your own family, or, friends are the family you choose, and therefore take priority. It came from originally came from a German proverb in the year 1180.
3rd Jan '16 11:38:44 AM nombretomado
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* In {{Soul eater}}, Crona uses [[AmbiguousGender hir]] madness to prevent Maka and Black★Star from matching soul wavelengths with their [[EquippableAlly weapons]], but Maka still manages to wield [[DotingParent Spirit]]. Spirit explains to confused Crona that the bond between a parent and child can never be broken. However, it is also stated that while parent-child resonance is stable it may not be as powerful as resonance between individuals with different backgrounds and characters.
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* In {{Soul eater}}, ''Manga/SoulEater'', Crona uses [[AmbiguousGender hir]] madness to prevent Maka and Black★Star from matching soul wavelengths with their [[EquippableAlly weapons]], but Maka still manages to wield [[DotingParent Spirit]]. Spirit explains to confused Crona that the bond between a parent and child can never be broken. However, it is also stated that while parent-child resonance is stable it may not be as powerful as resonance between individuals with different backgrounds and characters.
21st Dec '15 3:09:10 AM Adept
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* [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} Kagamine Len's]] character Allen in the [[{{mothy}} "Daughter of Evil"]] series and both Rin and Len in "Synchronicity."
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* [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} Kagamine Len's]] character Allen in the [[{{mothy}} [[Music/{{mothy}} "Daughter of Evil"]] series and both Rin and Len in "Synchronicity."
27th Nov '15 7:10:50 PM ngh93
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-->'''Shego''': Are you saying [[BerserkButton that I'm going]] '''[[BeserkButton SOFT?!]]'''
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-->'''Shego''': -->'''Shego''': Are you saying [[BerserkButton that I'm going]] '''[[BeserkButton '''[[BerserkButton SOFT?!]]'''
27th Nov '15 7:10:31 PM ngh93
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-->'''Shego''': Are you saying [[BerserkButton that I'm going]] '''[[BeserkButton SOFT?!]]''' -->'''Drakken''': As a marshmallow! -->''[A GilliganCut later, Drakken is holding to the reactors of the still flying mecha]'' -->'''Drakken:''' Shego, I take it back! You re not a softy! SHEGO!!!!!
24th Nov '15 10:01:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''BigJake''. Do not mess with the [=McCandles=] family; they are tougher than the Texas Rangers. And they are led by a [[JohnWayne "rough and unpleasant person"]].
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* ''BigJake''.''Film/BigJake''. Do not mess with the [=McCandles=] family; they are tougher than the Texas Rangers. And they are led by a [[JohnWayne "rough and unpleasant person"]].
11th Nov '15 7:43:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/{{Lockout}}'', another prisoner questions the riot leader Alex why he doesn't kill the obviously psychotic prisoner who is clearly a liability because of his homocidal urges. Alex responds that it's because that guy, Hydell, is his brother. [[spoiler:This tragically ensures his downfall, as Hydell kills Alex himself when he refuses to put up with Hydell's lunacy anymore.]]
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* In ''Film/{{Lockout}}'', another ''Film/{{Lockout}}'': A prisoner questions asks the riot leader Alex why he doesn't kill get rid of the obviously psychotic prisoner bloodthirsty Hydell, who is clearly a liability to their escape plan because of his homocidal unpredictable homicidal urges. Alex responds that it's because that guy, Hydell, Hydell is his brother. [[spoiler:This tragically ensures his downfall, as Hydell kills Alex himself when he refuses to put up with Hydell's lunacy anymore.]]
22nd Oct '15 2:53:43 AM PaulA
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* ''AlfredHitchcockPresents'': "Wet Saturday" -->'''Alfred Hitchcock''': ''I presume that story was intended to illustrate that blood is thicker than water. I always find it heartwarming to see a family standing shoulder to shoulder in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, the authorities were not thrilled by this sight, and were seen tossing about such phrases as, "obstructing justice," "accessory after the fact," "murder in the first degree."''
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* ''AlfredHitchcockPresents'': ''Series/AlfredHitchcockPresents'': "Wet Saturday" -->'''Alfred Hitchcock''': ''I I presume that story was intended to illustrate that blood is thicker than water. I always find it heartwarming to see a family standing shoulder to shoulder in the face of adversity. Unfortunately, the authorities were not thrilled by this sight, and were seen tossing about such phrases as, "obstructing justice," "accessory after the fact," "murder in the first degree."''"
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