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21st Apr '17 12:16:59 PM gophergiggles
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* [[spoiler:Penelope]] in ''VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime'' cites this as her reasoning for selling out Sly's team and joining Le Paradox's crew, when giving her MotiveRant and trying to get Bentley to come with her. [[spoiler:Bentley agrees 100% that she is right, but that he simply doesn't care because all ''he'' has ever wanted in life was to be with Sly and Murray.]]
19th Apr '17 11:09:50 AM FuzzyBoots
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* The "good guys" attempt to do this to the protagonist in ''Literature/RepairmanJack''. His remaining parent is killed and they put his lover and unborn child into a dying state. He strongarms them into reversing the first, but they refuse to fix the latter to remind him that he only has as much power as they give him.
--> "A spear has no branches."
9th Dec '16 3:07:13 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', this is apparently why Victor kills Kayla. [[spoiler: Only it turns out, it was Stryker's plan, not Victor's, and Kayla is not actually dead.]]
* In Franchise/StarWars it is elaborated upon in the Expanded Universe that Palpatine had plans to kill off Padme anyway, he felt that Vader's love for her was holding him back.
** This is very, very common in Sith training in general. Removing the "weakness of compassion" by killing a loved one is usually the last step in becoming truly devoted to the Dark Side. See [[Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Jacen Solo]].

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* In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', this is apparently why Victor kills Kayla. [[spoiler: Only it turns out, it was Stryker's plan, not Victor's, and Kayla is not actually dead.]]
* In Franchise/StarWars it is elaborated upon in the Expanded Universe that Palpatine had plans to kill off Padme anyway, he felt that Vader's love for her was holding him back.
** This is very, very common in Sith training in general. Removing the "weakness of compassion" by killing a loved one is usually the last step in becoming truly devoted to the Dark Side. See [[Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Jacen Solo]].
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* A less malignant version of this is what drives the main conflict of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'': the Bureau doesn't try to kill Elise but aims to keep her and David apart because David's drive to become a politician and make a positive difference in the world was his means to cope with the loneliness he felt after losing his parents at an early age (also due to the machinations of the Bureau). According to the Bureau, if David and Elise remain together, David won't become President and change the world for the better. Likewise, Elise would fail to become one of the greatest ballet dancers in the world.
* In the French film ''With a Friend Like Harry...'', Harry tries to clear all obstacles to his favorite writer's progress, including family.


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* In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', this is apparently why Victor kills Kayla. [[spoiler: Only it turns out, it was Stryker's plan, not Victor's, and Kayla is not actually dead.]]
* In Franchise/StarWars it is elaborated upon in the Expanded Universe that Palpatine had plans to kill off Padme anyway, he felt that Vader's love for her was holding him back.
** This is very, very common in Sith training in general. Removing the "weakness of compassion" by killing a loved one is usually the last step in becoming truly devoted to the Dark Side. See [[Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Jacen Solo]].
* A less malignant version of this is what drives the main conflict of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'': the Bureau doesn't try to kill Elise but aims to keep her and David apart because David's drive to become a politician and make a positive difference in the world was his means to cope with the loneliness he felt after losing his parents at an early age (also due to the machinations of the Bureau). According to the Bureau, if David and Elise remain together, David won't become President and change the world for the better. Likewise, Elise would fail to become one of the greatest ballet dancers in the world.
* In the French film ''With a Friend Like Harry...'', Harry tries to clear all obstacles to his favorite writer's progress, including family.
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15th Jul '16 8:43:30 AM Willbyr
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* In ''BattleAngelAlita'', when Yasugun comes to his sensei to talk about fear of death, he is told that a perfect machine he is striving to be should feel no emotion and if its his sister that is the source of the doubt, he should kill her.

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* In ''BattleAngelAlita'', ''Manga/{{Gunnm}}'', when Yasugun comes to his sensei to talk about fear of death, he is told that a perfect machine he is striving to be should feel no emotion and if its his sister that is the source of the doubt, he should kill her.
18th Mar '16 8:13:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''EarthFinalConflict'' starts with this, when Boone's wife is killed by [[spoiler:Sandoval]]. The killer does consider it a favour, too... then again, the killer committed their own spouse to an insane asylum so they wouldn't interfere with the killer's work for the Companions.

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* ''EarthFinalConflict'' ''Series/EarthFinalConflict'' starts with this, when Boone's wife is killed by [[spoiler:Sandoval]]. The killer does consider it a favour, too... then again, the killer committed their own spouse to an insane asylum so they wouldn't interfere with the killer's work for the Companions.
29th Dec '15 2:04:55 PM Anddrix
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** Done unusually with SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, who tries to [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind kill his good side]] which is holding him back.

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** Done unusually with SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor, ComicBook/LexLuthor, who tries to [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind kill his good side]] which is holding him back.
19th Dec '15 10:27:18 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Windmills of the Gods'' by SidneySheldon, the heroine turns down an offer from the President to become a US Ambassador. Unfortunately for her, the villain really wants her to take the job, so arranges for her husband to die in a tragic car crash, so that she will be free to accept.

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* In ''Windmills of the Gods'' by SidneySheldon, Creator/SidneySheldon, the heroine turns down an offer from the President to become a US Ambassador. Unfortunately for her, the villain really wants her to take the job, so arranges for her husband to die in a tragic car crash, so that she will be free to accept.
1st Dec '15 2:59:23 AM __Vano
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Alice is a very fortunate woman, she's the best at her profession in the world, has a group of supportive [[TrueCompanions friends]] and a loving family. True, she probably longs for adventure and excitement or wider recognition, but that's a minor concern compared to the bliss that is her life. Bob knows of her skills and sorely needs them, so he makes a generous offer for her to join him and help in his [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans (potentially]] [[EvilPlan evil)]] goals, sweetening the deal with the promise acclaim, power and wealth. Of course, she'll refuse because she's happy where she is. In fact, she probably quit Bob's team not long ago precisely to get that happy family life.

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Alice is a very fortunate woman, she's the best at her profession in the world, has a group of supportive [[TrueCompanions friends]] and a loving family. True, she probably longs for adventure and excitement or wider recognition, but that's a minor concern compared to the bliss that is her life. Bob knows of her skills and sorely needs them, so he makes a generous offer for her to join him and help in his [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans (potentially]] ([[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans potentially]] [[EvilPlan evil)]] evil]]) goals, sweetening the deal with the promise acclaim, power and wealth. Of course, she'll refuse because she's happy where she is. In fact, she probably quit Bob's team not long ago precisely to get that happy family life.
4th Oct '15 5:20:53 PM butterflygrrl
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** In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry becomes briefly afraid that Dumbledore will dispose of his family once he realizes that they ''aren't'' abusive (and therefore might be holding him back) and thus pretends to be miserable.

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** In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry becomes briefly afraid that Dumbledore will dispose of his family once he realizes that they ''aren't'' abusive (and therefore might be holding him back) and thus pretends to be miserable. Much later in the story, this is played deadly straight when [[spoiler:Professor Quirrel]] ''does'' try to remove Harry's friends in order to limit their influence on him. This is done by [[spoiler: framing Hermione for Draco's attempted murder, and then ''killing'' Hermione.]] It turns out to have been [[TheUnfettered a bad idea.]]
6th Jul '15 5:15:36 PM Ultimatum
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->'''[[MonsterLord The Alpha:]]''' Scott, I think you're getting the wrong impression of us. [[EvilMentor We really just want to help you reach your full potential.]]
->'''Scott:''' [[FriendlyTarget By killing my friends?]]
->'''The Alpha:''' Sometimes [[TrueCompanions the people closest to you]]... can be the ones holding you back the most.
->'''Scott:''' If [[TheHeart they're]] holding me back [[MoralityChain from becoming a psychotic nutjob like you?]] I'm okay with that.

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->'''[[MonsterLord ->''' The Alpha:]]''' Alpha:''' Scott, I think you're getting the wrong impression of us. [[EvilMentor We really just want to help you reach your full potential.]]
->'''Scott:''' [[FriendlyTarget
potential.
->'''Scott:'''
By killing my friends?]]
friends?
->'''The Alpha:''' Sometimes [[TrueCompanions Sometimes the people closest to you]]...you... can be the ones holding you back the most.
->'''Scott:''' If [[TheHeart they're]] If they're holding me back [[MoralityChain back from becoming a psychotic nutjob like you?]] you? I'm okay with that.
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