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31st May '18 7:20:36 PM JamesAustin
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The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] with the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuse to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.

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The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows [[EnemyMine what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] with the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuse to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.
7th Aug '17 11:31:50 PM Nadim
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating her for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.
7th Aug '17 11:30:50 PM Nadim
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Samurai Jack}}'': While they are fighting during Jack's medatation for his sword, the High Priestess delivers one of these speeches to Ashi berating for her disowning her family and joining Jack on the good side.
24th Jun '17 12:10:41 PM nombretomado
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* Schneizel uses this trope against Lelouch in ''CodeGeass''. [[spoiler:He goes over to the Black Knights and "accidentally" drops the little bit of info that Zero is Lelouch, his brother. Then he follows up by revealing Lelouch's Geass and finishes with an out-of-context recording of Lelouch admitting his responsibility of the Euphinator incident, [[ManipulativeBastard conveniently forgetting]] to tell the shocked Knights that Lelouch did that due to PowerIncontinence. Cue the Black Knights freaking out and betraying him, with [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] [[XanatosSpeedChess playing along and pretending to have manipulated everyone to his own ends]] [[BreakHerHeartToSaveHer in order to save Kallen]].]] And Lelouch ''still'' pulls out of this shitstorm by [[spoiler:going over to Britannia and usurping the throne]].

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* Schneizel uses this trope against Lelouch in ''CodeGeass''.''Anime/CodeGeass''. [[spoiler:He goes over to the Black Knights and "accidentally" drops the little bit of info that Zero is Lelouch, his brother. Then he follows up by revealing Lelouch's Geass and finishes with an out-of-context recording of Lelouch admitting his responsibility of the Euphinator incident, [[ManipulativeBastard conveniently forgetting]] to tell the shocked Knights that Lelouch did that due to PowerIncontinence. Cue the Black Knights freaking out and betraying him, with [[MagnificentBastard Lelouch]] [[XanatosSpeedChess playing along and pretending to have manipulated everyone to his own ends]] [[BreakHerHeartToSaveHer in order to save Kallen]].]] And Lelouch ''still'' pulls out of this shitstorm by [[spoiler:going over to Britannia and usurping the throne]].
6th Mar '17 4:24:07 PM TheUnknownUploader
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.
6th Mar '17 4:23:31 PM TheUnknownUploader
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* After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheVenturesBros'': After [[spoiler: Henchman 21]] quits in the previous season finale, the Monarch delivers an odd variation of this trope to his own wife instead of the good guys, insisting that the former employee is just "deep undercover" and still loyal and dedicated to the Monarch's goal of ruining Dr. Venture's life. Whether he's just in denial or really believes it is unclear.
15th Jan '17 4:33:20 PM nombretomado
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* Though completely unintentional, Doviculus causes this in ''BrutalLegend''. He went to where the heroes were at the time demanding that Succoria was "meant to spy on them, not to ''join'' them." Lita instantly assumes that Ophelia is the one he's talking about, and after [[spoiler:Lars is killed by the emperor]], Eddie has his doubts as well. It turns out [[spoiler:that Doviculus was talking about Eddie. He had mistaken the scent of Eddie's blood for that of his mother Succoria's.]]

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* Though completely unintentional, Doviculus causes this in ''BrutalLegend''.''VideoGame/BrutalLegend''. He went to where the heroes were at the time demanding that Succoria was "meant to spy on them, not to ''join'' them." Lita instantly assumes that Ophelia is the one he's talking about, and after [[spoiler:Lars is killed by the emperor]], Eddie has his doubts as well. It turns out [[spoiler:that Doviculus was talking about Eddie. He had mistaken the scent of Eddie's blood for that of his mother Succoria's.]]
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8th Aug '16 4:59:02 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': Zira uses this effectively with the Pridelanders after Kovu betrays her, leading Simba to exile him back to the Outlands.
* ''Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar'': Jafar uses this tactic on Iago. Iago does betray Aladdin as Jafar commands him to, but this allegiance doesn't stick.

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* In ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', Zira uses this effectively with the Pridelanders after Kovu betrays her, leading Simba to exile him back to the Outlands.
* In Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar, Jafar uses this tactic on Iago. Iago does betray Aladdin as Jafar commands him to, but this allegiance doesn't stick.

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* In ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', Zira uses this effectively with the Pridelanders after Kovu betrays her, leading Simba to exile him back to the Outlands.
* In Disney/AladdinTheReturnOfJafar, Jafar uses this tactic on Iago. Iago does betray Aladdin as Jafar commands him to, but this allegiance doesn't stick.
8th Aug '16 4:58:02 PM Morgenthaler
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