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5th Jan '16 11:35:55 PM FordPrefect
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The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] between the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuses to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.

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The BigBad uses this against the heroes [[ThirdActMisunderstanding in order to sow distrust among the heroes]] about [[AHouseDivided the new comrade.]] They will say their former minion is merely infiltrating the group and that he or she will soon [[FaceHeelTurn backstab them]] in the worst time possible. Or they'll scorn the naivete of the recruiter to be so desperate to make [[StrangeBedfellows what will be, at best, a temporary alliance]] between with the newly recruited villain. When the Lecture is used against the betrayer, the BigBad will start off by mocking them for joining the wrong side. When they refuses refuse to change sides, they resort to talking about how [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech worthless they are to both sides]]. If that doesn't work, blackmailing will: talking about how they need a certain [[PsychoSerum drug]] to survive will possibly put them back in line. Dead relatives are the best way to coerce them. Afterwards, the BigBad will leave, letting it stew for a while before getting the results.
3rd Jan '16 11:38:58 AM nombretomado
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* In SoulEater, [[MagnificentBastard Medusa]] does this ''to the defector in question.'' Without missing a single beat, she manages to talk Chrona into admitting that Chrona only ''pretended'' to defect in order to spy for Medusa, when no such thing was true. Given that Chrona is still a half-insane emotional wreck with severe [[WellDoneSonGuy mommy issues]] this works perfectly and causes Chrona to become an actual mole, while the rest of Chrona's new friends are blissfully unaware. [[FromBadToWorse This only further deteriorates Chrona's fragile psyche]].

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* In SoulEater, ''Manga/SoulEater'', [[MagnificentBastard Medusa]] does this ''to the defector in question.'' Without missing a single beat, she manages to talk Chrona into admitting that Chrona only ''pretended'' to defect in order to spy for Medusa, when no such thing was true. Given that Chrona is still a half-insane emotional wreck with severe [[WellDoneSonGuy mommy issues]] this works perfectly and causes Chrona to become an actual mole, while the rest of Chrona's new friends are blissfully unaware. [[FromBadToWorse This only further deteriorates Chrona's fragile psyche]].
1st Aug '15 6:34:24 PM DarkHunter
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* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', the Witch tries to reclaim a character who has made a HeelFaceTurn by telling the heroes that he is a traitor and his blood is her property. Funny thing is, it's actually a valid claim and they have to go through, to put it simply, a lot of troubles to get him completely back.

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* In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', the Witch tries to reclaim a character who has made a HeelFaceTurn by telling the heroes that he is a traitor and his blood is her property. Funny thing The problem is, according to the laws of magic in Narnia, it's actually a valid claim and they have to go through, to put it simply, a lot of troubles to get him completely back.
17th Jul '15 5:39:47 AM Llygodenfawr
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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series- right after her HeelFaceTurn- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight.

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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series- series -- right after her HeelFaceTurn- HeelFaceTurn -- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight.
17th Jul '15 5:38:42 AM Llygodenfawr
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So you managed to [[HeelFaceTurn turn over a new leaf]] and are in a truce with your former enemies. However, just when you think all is well, the BigBad appears for some reason, and you must confront them: [[ResignationsNotAccepted no running away and no diverting yourself to someone else]]. They ''will'' find you and they ''will'' make sure you are working for them again. But they can't just kidnap you; a rebellious soldier is likely to try to escape again. So how do they break you? They use the TheyStillBelongToUsLecture.

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So you managed to [[HeelFaceTurn turn over a new leaf]] and are in a truce with your former enemies. However, just when you think all is well, the BigBad appears for some reason, and you must confront them: [[ResignationsNotAccepted no running away and no diverting yourself to someone else]]. They ''will'' find you and they ''will'' make sure you are working for them again. But they can't just kidnap you; a rebellious soldier is likely to try to escape again. So how do they break you? They use the TheyStillBelongToUsLecture.
"They Still Belong to Us" Lecture.
8th Jun '15 11:18:39 PM nombretomado
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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series- right after her HeelFaceTurn- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight.

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* Northa attempts to use this on Setsuna in ''FreshPrettyCure'' ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure'' as part of a MoreThanMindControl gambit. Earlier in the series- right after her HeelFaceTurn- Wester attempted a similar speech, but it was closer in tone to a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight.
30th Jan '15 2:56:42 PM Nithael
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->"''Stupid, pitiful creature. [[BadassBoast I am the rage in your heart. I am the fury of your thoughts.]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide I alone empowered you to bring chaos to this world,]] and by the endless void, '''you shall!"'''''
-->-- '''[[TheCorrupter Mannoroth the Destructor]]''', ''[[WarCraft WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos]]'', [[spoiler: reminding [[BloodKnight Grom Hellscream]] that he and his clan still belong to him.]]

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->"''Stupid, pitiful creature. [[BadassBoast I am the rage in your heart. I am the fury of your thoughts.]] [[SuperpoweredEvilSide I alone empowered you to bring chaos to this world,]] world, and by the endless void, '''you shall!"'''''
-->-- '''[[TheCorrupter Mannoroth '''Mannoroth the Destructor]]''', ''[[WarCraft WarCraft III: Destructor''', ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII: Reign of Chaos]]'', [[spoiler: Chaos'', reminding [[BloodKnight Grom Hellscream]] Hellscream that he and his clan still belong to him.]]
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9th Sep '14 4:23:23 PM nombretomado
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* In the seventh season of BuffyTheVampireSlayer, this is one of the main strategies used by the First Evil to make the Scooby Gang split itself by infighting. Spike, Andrew, and Faith are all formerly evil, and the First warns both these characters and their comrades that they will inevitably return to their evil ways (so they might as well start now).

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* In the seventh season of BuffyTheVampireSlayer, ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', this is one of the main strategies used by the First Evil to make the Scooby Gang split itself by infighting. Spike, Andrew, and Faith are all formerly evil, and the First warns both these characters and their comrades that they will inevitably return to their evil ways (so they might as well start now).
6th Jul '14 7:13:07 AM Odon
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-->"You've changed. Your exo-plating, your ocular implant. They've taken you apart and they've re-created you in their own image. Hair, garments, but at the core, you are still mine."
21st May '14 8:00:18 PM Nobody
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-->-- '''[[TheCorrupter Mannoroth the Destructor]]''', from ''[[WarCraft WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos]]'', [[spoiler: reminding [[BloodKnight Grom Hellscream]] that he and his clan still belong to him.]]

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-->-- '''[[TheCorrupter Mannoroth the Destructor]]''', from ''[[WarCraft WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos]]'', [[spoiler: reminding [[BloodKnight Grom Hellscream]] that he and his clan still belong to him.]]
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