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30th Jul '16 8:06:29 PM mkmckoy
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Often accompanied by a reminder of what the Hero is fighting for, usually (but not always) framed in a way that insults either the Hero or the person/thing he is trying to save. This is done to get the Hero angry enough that he'll temporarily forget whatever mental hang-up is preventing him from getting this trick right.

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Often An abbreviated and harsher version of a RousingSpeech, it is often accompanied by a reminder of what the Hero is fighting for, usually (but not always) framed in a way that insults either the Hero or the person/thing he is trying to save. This is done to get the Hero angry enough that he'll temporarily forget whatever mental hang-up is preventing him from getting this trick right.
14th Jul '16 3:11:55 PM DarkHunter
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-->[[AC:Miyagi]]: Now, ready?
-->[[AC:Daniel]]: Yeah, I guess so.
-->[[AC:Miyagi]]: Daniel-san, must talk. Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, ''(makes squish gesture)'' get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", ''(makes squish gesture)'' just like grape. Understand?

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-->[[AC:Miyagi]]: -->'''Miyagi''': Now, ready?
-->[[AC:Daniel]]: -->'''Daniel''': Yeah, I guess so.
-->[[AC:Miyagi]]: -->'''Miyagi''': Daniel-san, must talk. Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, ''(makes squish gesture)'' get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", ''(makes squish gesture)'' just like grape. Understand?



* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack". Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
-->Luke: ...I don't believe it!
-->Yoda: And that is why you fail.
** The TropeNamer example highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack". Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
-->Luke: ...-->'''Luke''': ...I don't believe it!
-->Yoda: -->'''Yoda''': And that is why you fail.
** The TropeNamer example highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't.
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11th Jun '16 4:25:56 PM nombretomado
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* Richard of the SwordOfTruth is restricted to this to prevent him from being a total GameBreaker.

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* Richard of the SwordOfTruth Literature/SwordOfTruth is restricted to this to prevent him from being a total GameBreaker.
4th Feb '16 7:09:35 AM FF32
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** An expected subversion in a ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' cartoon, with The Little Engine looking the worse for wear, leaning against a building with a beggar's hat in front of him, and a sign reading "I thought I could, I thought I could..."

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** An expected subversion in a ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' cartoon, with The Little Engine looking the worse for wear, leaning against a building with a beggar's hat in front of him, and a sign reading "I thought I could, I thought I could..."
27th Dec '15 1:55:45 AM Morgenthaler
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** Yuthura Ban of VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.


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* Yuthura Ban of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.
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27th Dec '15 1:54:33 AM Morgenthaler
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** Kevin Sorbo's line from the first season finale of Andromeda 'All that matters in life is that you try, promise me you'll try' was an homage to this scene as it was preceded by a 'why we fight' speech.
27th Dec '15 1:53:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he - at times - seems just a [[strike:gallon]] [[IncrediblyLamePun half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.
* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.
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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he - at times - seems just a [[strike:gallon]] [[IncrediblyLamePun half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.



* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.
20th Sep '15 1:07:33 PM Piando
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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack.''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack". Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
20th Sep '15 1:06:51 PM Piando
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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikeBack. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikeBack.''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.



** An expected subversion in a ''FarSide'' cartoon, with The Little Engine looking the worse for wear, leaning against a building with a beggar's hat in front of him, and a sign reading "I thought I could, I thought I could..."

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** An expected subversion in a ''FarSide'' ''ComicStrip/FarSide'' cartoon, with The Little Engine looking the worse for wear, leaning against a building with a beggar's hat in front of him, and a sign reading "I thought I could, I thought I could..."
20th Sep '15 1:05:29 PM Piando
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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''[[StarWars The Empire Strikes Back]]''. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''[[StarWars The Empire Strikes Back]]''.''Film/TheEmpireStrikeBack. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how {{badass}} {{Badass}} he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.



** Yuthura Ban of KnightsOfTheOldRepublic mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.

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** Yuthura Ban of KnightsOfTheOldRepublic VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.



* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Toph's attitude to Aang whilst learning Earthbending is a definite "There is no try" attitude: "If you're not tough enough to stop the rock, then you could at least give it the pleasure of smooshing you instead of jumping out of the way like a jelly-boned wimp!!" This is because each of the bending discplines requires a particular quality in the bender, in this case stubborn, willful hard-headedness.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Toph's attitude to Aang whilst learning Earthbending [[DishingOutDirt Earthbending]] is a definite "There is no try" attitude: "If you're not tough enough to stop the rock, then you could at least give it the pleasure of smooshing you instead of jumping out of the way like a jelly-boned wimp!!" This is because each of the bending discplines requires a particular quality in the bender, in this case stubborn, willful hard-headedness.
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