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7th Oct '17 5:19:27 AM Snicka
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Related to HeelRealization, InternalizedCategorism, HeWhoFightsMonsters, ReformedButRejected, HeelFaceDoorSlam, CycleOfRevenge, TrappedInVillainy, NotHelpingYourCase, InterruptedCooldownHug, WhosLaughingNow, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, GoneHorriblyRight, and BigBadSlippage.

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Related to HeelRealization, InternalizedCategorism, HeWhoFightsMonsters, ReformedButRejected, HeelFaceDoorSlam, CycleOfRevenge, TrappedInVillainy, NotHelpingYourCase, InterruptedCooldownHug, WhosLaughingNow, WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, GoneHorriblyRight, MonsterFacade and BigBadSlippage.
2nd Oct '17 9:53:49 PM Mhazard
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* You can deliberately invoke this in ''VideoGame/DragonsDogma''. [[spoiler: Once you confronted Duke Edmun after slaying Grigori, TheDragon, he immediately [[PersonaNonGrata brands you as a traitor]], and [[EverythingTryingToKillYou every guard along with captain Maximilian would make an attempt to kill you on sight]] whenever you entered upper Gran Soren. If a traitor is what they wanted, then why not become one? Now, you have the option to [[DisproportionateRetribution teach them a lesson]] and '''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential kill everyone on sight]]''', yes, [[RevengeByProxy everyone]] ''but'' the [[KarmaHoudini Duke]]. [[AndThisIsFor This is for crossing with the Arisen]], who will soon [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence become your god]]!]]

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* You can deliberately invoke this in ''VideoGame/DragonsDogma''. [[spoiler: Once you confronted Duke Edmun after slaying Grigori, TheDragon, [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Grigori the Dragon]], he immediately [[PersonaNonGrata brands you as a traitor]], and [[EverythingTryingToKillYou every guard along with captain Maximilian would make an attempt to kill you on sight]] whenever you entered upper Gran Soren. If a traitor is what they wanted, then why not become one? Now, you have the option to [[DisproportionateRetribution teach them a lesson]] and '''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential kill everyone on sight]]''', yes, [[RevengeByProxy everyone]] ''but'' the [[KarmaHoudini Duke]]. [[AndThisIsFor This is for crossing with the Arisen]], who will soon [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence become your god]]!]]
28th Sep '17 8:23:10 PM Kuruni
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* Namm, the Elder Power of Justice from ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'', is so obsessed with winning the war against the demon lord [[ManipulativeBastard Tlacolotl]] that many of his followers have expanded their possible battlefield targets from actual demons to anyone who [[WithUsOrAgainstUs doesn't]] have a high enough score on the KarmaMeter, and sometimes all the way to [[HolierThanThou anyone who isn't an angel]]. Namm's behavior is the single best thing that ever happened to Tlacolotl's recruitment, as many characters figure that if they're going to be hunted like demons they may as well join them.

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* Namm, the Elder Power of Justice from ''[[NexusWar ''[[VideoGame/NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'', is so obsessed with winning the war against the demon lord [[ManipulativeBastard Tlacolotl]] that many of his followers have expanded their possible battlefield targets from actual demons to anyone who [[WithUsOrAgainstUs doesn't]] have a high enough score on the KarmaMeter, and sometimes all the way to [[HolierThanThou anyone who isn't an angel]]. Namm's behavior is the single best thing that ever happened to Tlacolotl's recruitment, as many characters figure that if they're going to be hunted like demons they may as well join them.
28th Sep '17 9:45:31 AM Necrodomo
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* Namm, the Elder Power of Justice from ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'', is so obsessed with winning the war against the demon lord [[ManipulativeBastard Tlacolotl]] that many of his followers have expanded their possible battlefield targets from actual demons to anyone who [[WithUsOrAgainstUs doesn't]] have a high enough score on the KarmaMeter, and sometimes all the way to [[HolierThanThou anyone who isn't an angel]]. Namm's behavior is the single best thing that ever happened to Tlacolotl's recruitment, as many characters figure that if they're going to be hunted like demons they may as well join them.
13th Sep '17 4:28:22 PM AndreaTx
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Crowley is a crossroad demon and the current King of Hell, but he REALLY likes the Winchester brothers and wants to be part of [[TrueCompanions Team Free Will]] with Sam, Dean, and Castiel. He spends several seasons doing them favors that actually work against his own interests, hoping it will endear him to then. However, in season 10, despite all the favors Crowley has done, Sam attempts to kill Crowley in order to save Dean. This causes Crowley to experience a villainous blue screen of death and decide that if being good doesn't garner loyalty from the good guys, what's the point?
13th Sep '17 10:38:12 AM REV6Pilot
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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': Nick is a non-villainous example. [[spoiler: He initially wanted to be a good, honorable member of the scouts, but after he's been ostracized for being a predator and a fox, with everyone having a preconceived notion that all foxes are sneaky and cannot be trusted, he decided that he can't really fight it, and must just roll with it in order to survive.]]

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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': Nick is a non-villainous example. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He initially wanted to be a good, good and honorable member of the scouts, but after he's been he was ostracized for being a predator and a fox, with everyone having a preconceived notion that all foxes are sneaky and cannot be trusted, he decided that he can't really fight it, and must just roll rolls with it the shifty stereotype in order to survive.survive. [[ManicPixieDreamGirl Judy]] helps him [[CharacterDevelopment get better]] over time.]]
10th Sep '17 9:43:38 AM nombretomado
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*** Spelled out in the web series ''WebVideo/DragonAgeRedemption'' focused on several characters trying to stop an escaped qunari mage, or Saarebas ("dangerous thing" in qunari). The qunari treat their mages ''way'' worse than humans. They [[MouthStitchedShut sew their mouths shut]] and force them to wear harnesses that dampen their magic and can be used to shock them into submission. After finally stopping and collaring the Saarebas, [[FeliciaDay Tallis]] asks him why he tried to cast a dangerous spell. His response is that he has been told for so long that he's a thing of evil that the only thing he could think about doing after escaping is the most harm possible. However, not all Saarebas are like that.

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*** Spelled out in the web series ''WebVideo/DragonAgeRedemption'' focused on several characters trying to stop an escaped qunari mage, or Saarebas ("dangerous thing" in qunari). The qunari treat their mages ''way'' worse than humans. They [[MouthStitchedShut sew their mouths shut]] and force them to wear harnesses that dampen their magic and can be used to shock them into submission. After finally stopping and collaring the Saarebas, [[FeliciaDay [[Creator/FeliciaDay Tallis]] asks him why he tried to cast a dangerous spell. His response is that he has been told for so long that he's a thing of evil that the only thing he could think about doing after escaping is the most harm possible. However, not all Saarebas are like that.
31st Aug '17 8:12:46 PM Linda58
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12522946/1/Black-Siren-Redemption Black Siren: Redemption]]'' (and the "extended version" ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12629672/1/The-Hands-of-Fate-Redemption The Hands of Fate: Redemption]])'' have something similar to ''ComicBook/XMen''. On Earth-2, Metahumans are stripped of their rights by the U.S. government (with the U.N.'s blessing), locked up, rendered sterile (the men through chemical treatments, the women ''have their ovaries removed''), and brutally experimented on, all in out of fear of what they may do. Unsurprisingly, upon being freed by Zoom, the Metas decide to be the monsters society treats them as and start fighting back.
30th Aug '17 12:14:09 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** This may be part of [[BiggerBad Madara Uchiha's]] motivation for his FaceHeelTurn after having co-founded the Hidden Leaf Village with Hashirama Senju. Tobirama constantly made moves to limit the power of Madara and the Uchiha clan, which convinced Madara that the old hatreds wouldn't die out. After reviewing the legend of the Juubi, Madara decided to follow a different route to peace.

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** This may be part of [[BiggerBad Madara Uchiha's]] Uchiha's motivation for his FaceHeelTurn after having co-founded the Hidden Leaf Village with Hashirama Senju. Tobirama constantly made moves to limit the power of Madara and the Uchiha clan, which convinced Madara that the old hatreds wouldn't die out. After reviewing the legend of the Juubi, Madara decided to follow a different route to peace.
22nd Aug '17 8:54:53 AM gb00393
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** Jaime's {{Jerkass}} personality partially grew out of this.

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** Jaime's {{Jerkass}} personality partially grew out of this. He later develops a kinder personality, but after Myrcella's death in Season 5, he backslides into this rationale. In his own words: "fuck everyone in the world who isn't us."
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