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22nd Apr '17 4:10:31 AM erforce
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* During his days in Vietnam, [[Comicbook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] took a very dim view of any of his men raping enemy women. In one major instance during ''Born'' miniseries from [[Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX the MAX imprint]], he put a bullet into the head of the VC sniper that one of his men was raping, telling him, "No ''rape''. We're here to ''kill'' the enemy." Said rapist would ultimately get drowned under Castle's boot as punishment.

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* During his days in Vietnam, [[Comicbook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] took a very dim view of any of his men raping enemy women. In one major instance during ''Born'' ''[[ComicBook/ThePunisherBorn Born]]'' miniseries from [[Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX the MAX imprint]], he put a bullet into the head of the VC sniper that one of his men was raping, telling him, "No ''rape''. We're here to ''kill'' the enemy." Said rapist would ultimately get drowned under Castle's boot as punishment.
19th Apr '17 2:04:42 PM RaeCharter
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* Used in Juliet Marillier's ''Literature/BrideiChronicles'' to highlight the virtues of the title character. He goes ballistic when he catches men from his own army about to rape captive women -- despite the fact that a Pict in the 6th century probably wouldn't have such respect for women's rights.

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* Used in Juliet Marillier's ''Literature/BrideiChronicles'' to highlight the virtues of the title character. He goes ballistic when he catches men from his own army about to rape captive women -- despite the fact that a Pict in the 6th century probably wouldn't have such respect for women's rights. This actually makes perfect sense given that Bridei was raised by a druid to have great respect for the goddess; his childhood was extremely sheltered; he lives in a matrilineal society; and he has a younger foster-sister whom he adores and who is about the same age as the girl about to be raped. Oh, and his best friend is involved.
28th Mar '17 5:08:48 PM eroock
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->''That much, at least, his wife and daughters had been spared. Spared, because by good fortune their own house had been seized by Rajputs during the sack, not Ye-tai or common soldiers. A Rajput cavalry troop, commanded by a young Rajput lord. A cold man, that lord; arrogant and haughty as only a Rajput kshatriya could be. The Rajputs had stripped their home of everything of value, down to the linen. Had then eaten all the food, and drank all the wine. But when the inevitable time came, and the cavalrymen began eyeing their captured women, the Rajput officer had simply said: "No."''

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->''That ->''"That much, at least, his wife and daughters had been spared. Spared, because by good fortune their own house had been seized by Rajputs during the sack, not Ye-tai or common soldiers. A Rajput cavalry troop, commanded by a young Rajput lord. A cold man, that lord; arrogant and haughty as only a Rajput kshatriya could be. The Rajputs had stripped their home of everything of value, down to the linen. Had then eaten all the food, and drank all the wine. But when the inevitable time came, and the cavalrymen began eyeing their captured women, the Rajput officer had simply said: "No.No."''
7th Mar '17 12:24:04 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': {{Deconstructed}} with Daenerys. She tries to save the women of a defeated tribe from rape. Later one of those women gives Daenerys a WhatTheHellHero speech for seeing herself as a hero for "saving" her when she had already lost everything and everyone she cared about at the hands of Daenerys' husband.
28th Dec '16 12:36:34 PM EDP
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* Played with several times in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'': while being the most iconic villains of the show, Shin and Raoh are also chivalrous to a fault and try to win Yuria's affection without touching her. Another villain, Yuda, keeps a harem of slave girls but does not rape any, although [[TransparentCloset his case is special]]. On the good guys' side, Yuuda is a handsome, lecherous MagnificentBastard who frequently raids slave caravans to take the girls to his pleasure palace... except if they ask to go home, in which case he will even give them food for the trip.

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* Played with several times in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'': while being the most iconic villains of the show, Shin and Raoh are also chivalrous to a fault and try to win Yuria's affection without touching her.her (and any of Raoh's soldiers that try to be anything else ''will'' be executed. Beheaded by a slap from Raoh himself if they're lucky, killed by Ryuuga if they're not). Another villain, Yuda, keeps a harem of slave girls but does not rape any, although [[TransparentCloset his case is special]]. On the good guys' side, Yuuda is a handsome, lecherous MagnificentBastard who frequently raids slave caravans to take the girls to his pleasure palace... except if they ask to go home, in which case he will even give them food for the trip.
5th Oct '16 7:14:19 AM erforce
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** Even the [[spoiler:anti]]villainous Barbossa abides by this... up to a point. When Elizabeth rejects his NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine proposal, he says that the alternative is to dine with the crew, and without the dress he was offering her.

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** Even the [[spoiler:anti]]villainous Barbossa abides by this... up to a point. When Elizabeth rejects his NoMrBondIExpectYouToDine proposal, proposal in the [[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl first film]], he says that the alternative is to dine with the crew, and without the dress he was offering her.
30th Sep '16 12:03:14 AM aaronupright
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30th Sep '16 12:02:30 AM aaronupright
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Too many aversions go to the opposite extreme, painting whatever era or world they're set in as a NoWomansLand CrapsackWorld, which is an oversimplification at best, sometimes outright {{Demonization}}. Modern audiences like to be told that they're [[SocietyMarchesOn much more civilized than their ancestors]], even if their ancestors have to get varying degrees of HistoricalVillainUpgrade in the process. History itself is often taught this way, as well, because it's useful to whatever ideology dominates an educational system to try and show how much better the ideology has made things since the Bad Old Days.

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Too many aversions go to the opposite extreme, painting whatever era or world they're set in as a NoWomansLand CrapsackWorld, which is an oversimplification at best, sometimes outright {{Demonization}}. At the same time, this Trope was played straight throughout history and infact was more likely to happen then not. Commanders like to maintain discipline and order amongst the ranks, an Army without either is basically a mob, and there are few better ways to cause such breakdown then letting the troops run wild over womenfolk.

Modern audiences like to be told that they're [[SocietyMarchesOn much more civilized than their ancestors]], even if their ancestors have to get varying degrees of HistoricalVillainUpgrade in the process. History itself is often taught this way, as well, because it's useful to whatever ideology dominates an educational system to try and show how much better the ideology has made things since the Bad Old Days.


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* Without breaking the prohibition against real life examples, as stated above in order to maintain discipline, Commanders throughout history have tried to enforce this trope.
* Indeed some of the well known aversions of this occurred when Commanders lost control of their troops, although it is often disputed how much effort they made to maintain said control. A perfunctory face saving "tsk tsk" was very common. Though too be fair, so were determined but ill fated efforts to prevent rapes.
25th Aug '16 8:00:17 AM StFan
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* Subverted in the firth book of ''Literature/BlackCompany''; after invading a new city, members of the company start raping Amazons. Croaker says they deserved it because they fought. Of course, the mercenaries are not exactly portrayed [[GreyAndGrayMorality as pure of heart]].

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* Subverted in the firth book of ''Literature/BlackCompany''; ''Literature/TheBlackCompany''; after invading a new city, members of the company start raping Amazons. Croaker says they deserved it because they fought. Of course, the mercenaries are not exactly portrayed [[GreyAndGrayMorality as pure of heart]].



* In the ''Literature/BelisariusSeries'' it is an awful crime that only the most barbaric minions of the bad guys do. Worthy Opponents like the Rajputs and the Kushans do not engage in this, and though some Romans do, when Belisarius hears about it he simply hangs the perp.
** Or he calls for [[OffWithHisHead Valentinian]].
* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' the Silver Horde of barbarian warriors do not rape. However, this may be because they're all over 80, and is possibly subverted somewhat when the Ankh-Morpork Guild of Historians distinguishes between rape and ravishment. "It's a question of style. There were never any actual ''[[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization complaints]]''."
** Of course, there is an exchange between Rincewind and Cohen in Interesting Times which suggests that the Silver Horde do not rape for more.... [[TheLoinsSleepTonight practical reasons]]. Speaking about an 85 year old Barbarian.....
--> '''Rincewind''': "Rape? That's not very...."
--> '''Cohen''':"He's an old man. Don't go spoiling his dreams."

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* In the ''Literature/BelisariusSeries'' it is an awful crime that only the most barbaric minions of the bad guys do. Worthy Opponents like the Rajputs and the Kushans do not engage in this, and though some Romans do, when Belisarius hears about it he simply hangs the perp.
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perp. Or he calls for [[OffWithHisHead Valentinian]].
* In ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' the Silver Horde of barbarian warriors do not rape. However, this may be because they're all over 80, and is possibly subverted somewhat when the Ankh-Morpork Guild of Historians distinguishes between rape and ravishment. "It's a question of style. There were never any actual ''[[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization complaints]]''."
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" Of course, there is an exchange between Rincewind and Cohen in Interesting Times ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'' which suggests that the Silver Horde do not rape for more.... [[TheLoinsSleepTonight practical reasons]]. Speaking about an 85 year old Barbarian.....
--> '''Rincewind''': "Rape?
85-year-old Barbarian...
-->'''Rincewind:''' Rape?
That's not very...."
--> '''Cohen''':"He's
\\
'''Cohen:''' He's
an old man. Don't go spoiling his dreams."
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