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20th May '16 5:12:14 PM TheSinful
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* Played with in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2565609/135/Odd-Ideas Dungeons & Drow]]'' with regards to [[Literature/HarryPotter Harry's]] new pet, the titular Drow. Harry doesn't intend to torture or rape her because it's [[PragmaticVillainy a waste of a potentially useful tool]], but admits that should she attempt to flee or kill him then flee, she will be captured and raped by his men.
18th Apr '16 8:34:52 PM Fireblood
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* Used in ''Marco Polo'' to hammer home the villainy of the corrupt Mongol overseers of the southern provinces of China. When the title hero confronts them, they say that the women will [[NotRapeIfYouEnjoyedItRationalization grow to enjoy it]] and will love [[GildedCage their new luxurious lifestyle]]. This is in stark contrast with the more chivalrous northern Mongols where the man is expected to patiently await the woman's approval or accept rejection without protest.

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* Used in ''Marco Polo'' to hammer home the villainy of the corrupt Mongol overseers of the southern provinces of China. When the title hero confronts them, they say that the women will [[NotRapeIfYouEnjoyedItRationalization [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization grow to enjoy it]] and will love [[GildedCage their new luxurious lifestyle]]. This is in stark contrast with the more chivalrous northern Mongols where the man is expected to patiently await the woman's approval or accept rejection without protest.
18th Apr '16 8:30:05 PM Fireblood
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** One of Joan's bodyguards, Gilles de Rais (played by Vince Cassell in this film) was later executed as a serial killer and rapist of children, though apparently none of these crimes were (apparently) perpetrated until years after the events of the movie.

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** One of Joan's bodyguards, Gilles de Rais (played by Vince Cassell in this film) was later executed as a serial killer and rapist of children, though apparently none of these crimes were (apparently) perpetrated until years after the events of the movie.movie (there are also those who've argued he was innocent, though historians disagree).



* The 2004 movie ''Film/{{Troy}}'', both supports and avoids this trope, depending on how much we're supposed to identify with the character. Achilles' nameless soldiers behave the way you might expect an ancient army to towards Trojan captive Briseis (not well). Achilles' lieutenant, Eudorus also sees her as a prize to be enjoyed by his boss, and is not chastised for his attitude. Agamemnon, being the dastard of the film, naturally feels the same way. Audience-courting Achilles however, is shown to be respectful of Briseis. The script takes pains to show that sex between them is consensual. Achilles even rescues her from rape at the hands of his men (out of altruism, it seems, not jealousy). OTOH, in Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', Briseis is seized by Achilles and later Agamemnon as a prize. Her consent, or lack thereof, is not treated as a concern either way.

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* The 2004 movie ''Film/{{Troy}}'', both supports and avoids this trope, depending on how much we're supposed to identify with the character. Achilles' nameless soldiers behave the way you might expect an ancient army to towards Trojan captive Briseis (not well). Achilles' lieutenant, lieutenant Eudorus also sees her as a prize to be enjoyed by his boss, and is not chastised for his attitude. Agamemnon, being the dastard of the film, naturally feels the same way. Audience-courting Achilles however, is shown to be respectful of Briseis. The script takes pains to show that sex between them is consensual. Achilles even rescues her from rape at the hands of his men (out of altruism, it seems, not jealousy). OTOH, in Homer's ''Literature/TheIliad'', Briseis is seized by Achilles and later Agamemnon as a prize. Her consent, or lack thereof, is not treated as a concern either way.



** In the myth, Achilles isn't all that interested in raping Briseis either, or really doing anything with her until she is taken away by Agamemnon. She was Achilles' honour gift, taking her back was a major insult, and Achilles was very upset about the insult, but not so much about the presence of the actual person. Furthermore, high ranking female captives were mainly used as a display of power in Homers epics, and their duties involved such things as serving wine to guests.

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** In the myth, Achilles isn't all that interested in raping Briseis either, or really doing anything with her until she is taken away by Agamemnon. She was Achilles' honour honor gift, taking her back was a major insult, and Achilles was very upset about the insult, but not so much about the presence of the actual person. Furthermore, high ranking female captives were mainly used as a display of power in Homers epics, and their duties involved such things as serving wine to guests.



* The Clive Owen ''Film/KingArthur'' movie uses a twist on this trope: The good Roman knights don't rape. The villainous Saxons are shown attempting to rape a woman but the BigBad stops them, arguing they shouldn't dilute their bloodline. One of the soldiers claims it's his right, and is stabbed for his trouble. The BigBad then kills the woman. Whether this is meant as a [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation hate crime]] or because he knew [[EvenEvilHasStandards he couldn't protect the woman for long]] is left ambiguous.

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* The Clive Owen ''Film/KingArthur'' movie uses a twist on this trope: The the good Roman knights don't rape. The villainous Saxons are shown attempting to rape a woman but the BigBad stops them, arguing they shouldn't dilute their bloodline. One of the soldiers claims it's his right, and is stabbed for his trouble. The BigBad then kills the woman. Whether this is meant as a [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation hate crime]] or because he knew [[EvenEvilHasStandards he couldn't protect the woman for long]] is left ambiguous.
2nd Apr '16 8:22:59 PM Katsuhagi
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* Played straight in ''WebComic/FarToTheNorth''. When one of the slavers tries to get grabby with the female protagonist, their leader has the gang's HeroicBastard knock the man out while severely lecturing the others in his band.

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* Played straight in ''WebComic/FarToTheNorth''. When one of the slavers tries to get grabby with the sister-in-law of the female protagonist, their leader has the gang's HeroicBastard knock the man out while severely lecturing the others in his band.
17th Mar '16 6:04:23 AM isoycrazy
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* In ''Literature/TheCinderSpires'' Played with. When Albion Guardsman Bridget is trying to negotiate the end of a Mexican standoff between the Auroran marine Ciriaco, his soldiers and her friends by allowing herself to be taken as hostage, she believes she'll probably be 'raped and murdered'. Ciriaco sincerely tells her that if such a situation had played out, he would have gutted any man who tried to lay a hand on her. He assures her "[i]f it had to be death, I'd have given it to you quick and clean." Bridget is not comforted by this knowledge.
15th Mar '16 1:50:07 AM Fireblood
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* In HBO's ''Series/{{Rome}}'', one of Titus Pullio's (one of the two main protagonists) first lines something to the effect of how he lives to kill his enemies, take their gold, and enjoy their women. He's never shown actually enjoying an enemy's woman. He has bordellos for that.

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* In HBO's ''Series/{{Rome}}'', one of Titus Pullio's Pullo's (one of the two main protagonists) first lines something to the effect of how he lives to kill his enemies, take their gold, and enjoy their women. He's never shown actually enjoying an enemy's woman. He has bordellos for that.



** ''Sharpe's Siege'''s plot is reliant on the aversion of this trope. The British army is camped outside the French-occupied town of Badajoz, and Sharpe's wife--a spy for British-allied Portugal--is inside the city, along with their infant daughter. Much of the plot, therefore, relies on his need to find and protect his family from his own army ransacking the town.

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** ''Sharpe's Siege'''s plot is reliant on the aversion of this trope. The British army is camped outside the French-occupied town city of Badajoz, and Sharpe's wife--a spy for British-allied Portugal--is inside the city, along with their infant daughter. Much of the plot, therefore, relies on his need to find and protect his family from his own army ransacking the town.city.
15th Mar '16 1:29:42 AM Fireblood
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* The ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' series, which painfully [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] everything else about medieval style life and the stereotypical KnightInShiningArmor, hits this one as well. Soldiers from ''every'' army involved in the War of the Five Kings are shown engaging in various atrocities, including, quite frequently, rape -- regardless of whether they support the protagonists or not. A few nobles have edicts against their men raping, (most notably Daenerys Targaryen, who is a woman herself and took a number of eunuchs into her army because they couldn't rape, and Stannis Baratheon, who embodies HonorBeforeReason), but they are the exception to the rule. Rape is, however, a crime outside of times of war, and rapists without the fortune of noble blood are shown as having a choice between castration and serving with the Night Watch. Highborn rapists go scot-free, though, and [[MaritalRapeLicense marital rape]] isn't even considered a crime.

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* The ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' series, which painfully [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructs]] everything else about medieval style life and the stereotypical KnightInShiningArmor, hits this one as well. Soldiers from ''every'' army involved in the War of the Five Kings are shown engaging in various atrocities, including, quite frequently, rape -- regardless of whether they support the protagonists or not. A few nobles have edicts against their men raping, raping (most notably Daenerys Targaryen, who is a woman herself and took a number of eunuchs into her army because they couldn't wouldn't rape, and Stannis Baratheon, who embodies HonorBeforeReason), but they are the exception to the rule. Rape is, however, a crime outside of times of war, and rapists without the fortune of noble blood are shown as having a choice between castration and serving with the Night Watch. Highborn rapists go scot-free, though, and [[MaritalRapeLicense marital rape]] isn't even considered a crime.



** This is deliberately invoked by Richard once he becomes Lord Rahl. In the first book, it's mentioned that D'Haran soldiers practiced this, among other unsavory 'victory celebrations'. When Richard takes over, however, he puts an end to it, and actually gets some protest from his commanders saying that the soldiers have become accustomed to the, um, 'perks' of being a conquering army, and some of them aren't going to like losing them. Richard's response to this is along the lines of, "Well, that's just too bad then."
* One of the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse books, ''Tales Of The Bounty Hunters'', has a short story about Leia in her metal bikini being shoved into Boba Fett's room for the night, since Jabba wants to give his bounty hunter something extra. Fett gives her the bed, leans against the wall, and tells her that sex before marriage is immoral, the Rebellion is morally wrong, and Han Solo is worse than he is because Solo smuggles spice.

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** This is deliberately invoked by Richard once he becomes Lord Rahl. In the first book, it's mentioned that D'Haran soldiers practiced this, among other unsavory 'victory celebrations'. When Richard takes over, however, he puts an end to it, and actually gets some protest from his commanders saying that the soldiers have become accustomed to the, um, 'perks' of being a conquering army, and some of them aren't going to like losing them. Richard's response to this is along the lines of, of "Well, that's just too bad then."
* One of the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse books, ''Tales Of The Bounty Hunters'', has a short story about Leia in her metal bikini being shoved into Boba Fett's room for the night, since Jabba wants to give his bounty hunter something extra. Fett gives her the bed, leans against the wall, and tells her that sex before outside of marriage is immoral, the Rebellion is morally wrong, and Han Solo is worse than he is because Solo smuggles spice.



** Later ExpandedUniverse stories turn him into an already-married man who is completely loyal to his (estranged) wife (this [[CanonDiscontinuity contradicts earlier text]] which states he's a virgin).

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** Later ExpandedUniverse stories turn him into an already-married man (and father) who is completely loyal to his (estranged) wife (this [[CanonDiscontinuity contradicts earlier text]] which states he's never even ''held'' a virgin).woman, let alone had sex with one).
9th Dec '15 9:11:52 AM joestej
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* Played straight in ''{{FarToTheNorth}}''. When one of the slavers tries to get grabby with the female protagonist, their leader has the gang's HeroicBastard knock the man out while severely lecturing the others in his band.

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* Played straight in ''{{FarToTheNorth}}''.''WebComic/FarToTheNorth''. When one of the slavers tries to get grabby with the female protagonist, their leader has the gang's HeroicBastard knock the man out while severely lecturing the others in his band.
9th Dec '15 9:11:01 AM joestej
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* Played straight in ''{{FarToTheNorth}}''. When one of the slavers tries to get grabby with the female protagonist, their leader has the gang's HeroicBastard knock the man out while severely lecturing the others in his band.
17th Nov '15 6:15:08 PM PaulA
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* ''Captain Corelli's Mandolin'': Corelli catches an Italian soldier trying to rape a Greek girl. He makes the man stand in the sun for hours wearing nothing but a helmet and a haversack full of rocks.

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* ''Captain Corelli's Mandolin'': ''Literature/CaptainCorellisMandolin'': Corelli catches an Italian soldier trying to rape a Greek girl. He makes the man stand in the sun for hours wearing nothing but a helmet and a haversack full of rocks.
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