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->[[FromACertainPointOfView It's all about men]]!
-> -- '''Tagline for the 1939 version.'''

''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story. (As a matter of fact, in the movie there are no males of ANY species. The dogs are all bitches and the horses are all mares.)

The story concerns a group of women, led by Mary Haines and Sylvia Fowler, whose lives are disrupted when it's discovered that Mr. Stephen Haines is having an affair. The other woman is Crystal Allen, a perfume saleswoman, and certainly not a decent person. As she heads to a Reno Dude Ranch for a quick divorce, Mary meets a few new friends on the way. A few twists come in when one of the new friends is revealed to be the new Mrs. Fowler and the new husband of another starts an affair with Crystal.

The film has inspired two remakes. One, titled ''The Opposite Sex,'' was released in 1956 and actually featured men; the other, also titled ''The Women'' and featuring an all-female cast[[note]]With the exception of a scene at the end where one character has a newborn baby boy.[[/note]], came out in 2008.
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!!This film features examples of:
* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and LeslieNielson. The 2008 version features, among others, Creator/MegRyan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, EvaMendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.
* AnimalMotifs: The opening credits of the 1939 movie.
* BeAWhoreToGetYourMan
* BreakTheHaughty: The whole point of the film; Mary basically is a wealthy socialite with a darling child who doesn't have a care in the world. But her cousin Sylvia, with a strained marriage of her own and semi-envious of Mary's happiness, decides to destroy Mary's life by revealing her husband's adultery and egging her own to divorce her husband.
* {{Catchphrase}}: "Oh l'amour, l'amour!" by the Countess.
* CatFight: Sylvia gets into one with Miriam when she learns she's the woman her husband's going to marry. It's complete with hair-pulling, clothes tearing, and even some biting.
* FashionShow: Featured in the middle of the film, in full color; the scene was purged from the film for decades due to it being out of place in a black and white film.
* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: A spectacular use is Crystal's last line in the film.
-->"And by the way, there's a name for you ladies, but it isn't used in high society---outside of a kennel."
* TheGhost: All the men.
* GoldDigger
* GossipyHens: Sylvia and the manicurist, mostly.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Crystal brags to Mary that she can keep Steven because she's got Buck Winston, the Countess's latest husband... until she finds out that the company that Buck is the spokesperson for is actually owned by the Countess. She bought it because no one else would hire him, which means he's likely to be fired before or after he leaves the Countess.
* HypocriticalHumor: The entire initial exchange between Sylvia and Edith.
-->Edith: Somebody ought to shut that manicurist up.
-->Sylvia: A good piece of scandal like that? Not a chance, why that girl never stops talking. You know how those creatures are, babble babble babble babble babble, never let up for a minute, the lot they care whose lives they ruin. It wouldn't be so bad if only Mary's friends knew. We could keep our mouths shut.
-->Edith: I know I never breathe about my friends' husbands.
-->Sylvia: So do I.
* InLoveWithLove: The Countess.
* LargeHam: The Countess. And Sylvia when she gets into hysterics.
* LaserGuidedKarma: Sylvia winds up getting a divorce herself, and then meets the woman her husband is planning on marrying while at Reno.
* MealTicket: Stephen and Buck.
* TheMusical: The second movie.
* NiceHat: Comes up often in the film. Sylvia gets the most ridiculous ones in both the movie and the 2001 stage revival.
* OwMyBodyPart:
-->Sylvia: But you know how some women are when they lose their heads... they do things they regret all their lives.
-->(Instructioness grabs Sylvia's leg and forces it into place)
-->Sylvia: Ouch, my [caesarean] scars!
* PrettyInMink: The first couple films have loads of furs.
* ReallyGetsAround: Crystal Allen.
* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: The 2008 remake, which was first pitched by director and writer Diane English (the creator of ''Series/MurphyBrown'') in 1993.
* SpoiledSweet: An adult version, although Mary could be considered a subversion since she's not a bad person, though she is naive when the movie begins.
* TimeSkip: Two years pass after Mary fails to prevent Stephen from marrying Crystal.
* TheUnfairSex: Averted; the story directs its scorn to Crystal Allen, not the philandering husbands. It does turn out Stephen is miserable being married to Crystal.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to Diane English on a DVD making of documentary for the 2008 remake, she originally pitched it with both Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts agreeing to be not only in the lead roles, but also as co-producers, and Creator/JamesLBrooks as the director. Blythe Danner and Marisa Tomei would have co-starred, as would have Candice Bergen and Debi Mazar (who remained in the final cut). The project went into DevelopmentHell after Roberts and Ryan declared they both wanted to play the same role at the first table reading. Brooks left to work on Film/AsGoodAsItGets, and Roberts declared she was no longer interested and also dropped out. Other actresses that expressed interest included SandraBullock, Ashley Judd, Uma Thurman, Music/WhitneyHouston and Queen Latifah. She also declared she wanted the script to have strong and self-reliant female characters.
** There was also a remake planned in the 1970s, and it would have possibly featured men. For some reason it was cancelled.
* WiseBeyondTheirYears: Little Mary is mature enough to understand that her father is miserable with Crystal without the two even needing to speak about it.
* YourCheatingHeart
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->[[FromACertainPointOfView It's all about men]]!
-> -- '''Tagline for the 1939 version.'''

''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story. (As a matter of fact, in the movie there are no males of ANY species. The dogs are all bitches and the horses are all mares.)

The story concerns a group of women, led by Mary Haines and Sylvia Fowler, whose lives are disrupted when it's discovered that Mr. Stephen Haines is having an affair. The other woman is Crystal Allen, a perfume saleswoman, and certainly not a decent person. As she heads to a Reno Dude Ranch for a quick divorce, Mary meets a few new friends on the way. A few twists come in when one of the new friends is revealed to be the new Mrs. Fowler and the new husband of another starts an affair with Crystal.

The film has inspired two remakes. One, titled ''The Opposite Sex,'' was released in 1956 and actually featured men; the other, also titled ''The Women'' and featuring an all-female cast[[note]]With the exception of a scene at the end where one character has a newborn baby boy.[[/note]], came out in 2008.
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!!This film features examples of:
* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and LeslieNielson. The 2008 version features, among others, Creator/MegRyan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, EvaMendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.
* AnimalMotifs: The opening credits of the 1939 movie.
* BeAWhoreToGetYourMan
* BreakTheHaughty: The whole point of the film; Mary basically is a wealthy socialite with a darling child who doesn't have a care in the world. But her cousin Sylvia, with a strained marriage of her own and semi-envious of Mary's happiness, decides to destroy Mary's life by revealing her husband's adultery and egging her own to divorce her husband.
* {{Catchphrase}}: "Oh l'amour, l'amour!" by the Countess.
* CatFight: Sylvia gets into one with Miriam when she learns she's the woman her husband's going to marry. It's complete with hair-pulling, clothes tearing, and even some biting.
* FashionShow: Featured in the middle of the film, in full color; the scene was purged from the film for decades due to it being out of place in a black and white film.
* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: A spectacular use is Crystal's last line in the film.
-->"And by the way, there's a name for you ladies, but it isn't used in high society---outside of a kennel."
* TheGhost: All the men.
* GoldDigger
* GossipyHens: Sylvia and the manicurist, mostly.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Crystal brags to Mary that she can keep Steven because she's got Buck Winston, the Countess's latest husband... until she finds out that the company that Buck is the spokesperson for is actually owned by the Countess. She bought it because no one else would hire him, which means he's likely to be fired before or after he leaves the Countess.
* HypocriticalHumor: The entire initial exchange between Sylvia and Edith.
-->Edith: Somebody ought to shut that manicurist up.
-->Sylvia: A good piece of scandal like that? Not a chance, why that girl never stops talking. You know how those creatures are, babble babble babble babble babble, never let up for a minute, the lot they care whose lives they ruin. It wouldn't be so bad if only Mary's friends knew. We could keep our mouths shut.
-->Edith: I know I never breathe about my friends' husbands.
-->Sylvia: So do I.
* InLoveWithLove: The Countess.
* LargeHam: The Countess. And Sylvia when she gets into hysterics.
* LaserGuidedKarma: Sylvia winds up getting a divorce herself, and then meets the woman her husband is planning on marrying while at Reno.
* MealTicket: Stephen and Buck.
* TheMusical: The second movie.
* NiceHat: Comes up often in the film. Sylvia gets the most ridiculous ones in both the movie and the 2001 stage revival.
* OwMyBodyPart:
-->Sylvia: But you know how some women are when they lose their heads... they do things they regret all their lives.
-->(Instructioness grabs Sylvia's leg and forces it into place)
-->Sylvia: Ouch, my [caesarean] scars!
* PrettyInMink: The first couple films have loads of furs.
* ReallyGetsAround: Crystal Allen.
* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: The 2008 remake, which was first pitched by director and writer Diane English (the creator of ''Series/MurphyBrown'') in 1993.
* SpoiledSweet: An adult version, although Mary could be considered a subversion since she's not a bad person, though she is naive when the movie begins.
* TimeSkip: Two years pass after Mary fails to prevent Stephen from marrying Crystal.
* TheUnfairSex: Averted; the story directs its scorn to Crystal Allen, not the philandering husbands. It does turn out Stephen is miserable being married to Crystal.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to Diane English on a DVD making of documentary for the 2008 remake, she originally pitched it with both Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts agreeing to be not only in the lead roles, but also as co-producers, and Creator/JamesLBrooks as the director. Blythe Danner and Marisa Tomei would have co-starred, as would have Candice Bergen and Debi Mazar (who remained in the final cut). The project went into DevelopmentHell after Roberts and Ryan declared they both wanted to play the same role at the first table reading. Brooks left to work on Film/AsGoodAsItGets, and Roberts declared she was no longer interested and also dropped out. Other actresses that expressed interest included SandraBullock, Ashley Judd, Uma Thurman, Music/WhitneyHouston and Queen Latifah. She also declared she wanted the script to have strong and self-reliant female characters.
** There was also a remake planned in the 1970s, and it would have possibly featured men. For some reason it was cancelled.
* WiseBeyondTheirYears: Little Mary is mature enough to understand that her father is miserable with Crystal without the two even needing to speak about it.
* YourCheatingHeart
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''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story. (As a matter of fact, in the movie no males of ANY species. The dogs are all bitches and the horses are all mares.)

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''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story. (As a matter of fact, in the movie there are no males of ANY species. The dogs are all bitches and the horses are all mares.)



The film has inspired two remakes. One, titled ''The Opposite Sex,'' was released in 1956 and actually featured men; the other, also titled ''The Women'' and featuring an all-female cast, came out in 2008.

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The film has inspired two remakes. One, titled ''The Opposite Sex,'' was released in 1956 and actually featured men; the other, also titled ''The Women'' and featuring an all-female cast, cast[[note]]With the exception of a scene at the end where one character has a newborn baby boy.[[/note]], came out in 2008.
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* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and Leslie Neilson. The 2008 version features, among others, Creator/MegRyan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, EvaMendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.

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* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and Leslie Neilson.LeslieNielson. The 2008 version features, among others, Creator/MegRyan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, EvaMendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.



* ReallyGetsAround: Crystal Allen

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* ReallyGetsAround: Crystal AllenAllen.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Several:
** There was a remake planned in the 1970s, and it would have possibly featured men.
** According to Diane English on a DVD making of documentary, she originally pitched the remake with Creator/JamesLBrooks as the director and both Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts in the lead roles. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell. English ultimately directed and wrote the remake herself. She also intended for the plot element of a quickie divorce at the Reno dude ranch as seen in the original, before it was dropped.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Several:
According to Diane English on a DVD making of documentary for the 2008 remake, she originally pitched it with both Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts agreeing to be not only in the lead roles, but also as co-producers, and Creator/JamesLBrooks as the director. Blythe Danner and Marisa Tomei would have co-starred, as would have Candice Bergen and Debi Mazar (who remained in the final cut). The project went into DevelopmentHell after Roberts and Ryan declared they both wanted to play the same role at the first table reading. Brooks left to work on Film/AsGoodAsItGets, and Roberts declared she was no longer interested and also dropped out. Other actresses that expressed interest included SandraBullock, Ashley Judd, Uma Thurman, Music/WhitneyHouston and Queen Latifah. She also declared she wanted the script to have strong and self-reliant female characters.
** There was also a remake planned in the 1970s, and it would have possibly featured men.
** According to Diane English on a DVD making of documentary, she originally pitched the remake with Creator/JamesLBrooks as the director and both Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts in the lead roles. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell. English ultimately directed and wrote the remake herself. She also intended for the plot element of a quickie divorce at the Reno dude ranch as seen in the original, before
men. For some reason it was dropped.cancelled.
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** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/JamesLBrooks to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell. The plot element of a quickie divorce at the Reno dude ranch seen in the original was dropped in the remake.

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** When According to Diane English pitched the recent remake, on a DVD making of documentary, she originally intended for pitched the remake with Creator/JamesLBrooks to direct it as the director and both Meg Ryan Creator/MegRyan and JuliaRoberts to star.in the lead roles. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell. The English ultimately directed and wrote the remake herself. She also intended for the plot element of a quickie divorce at the Reno dude ranch as seen in the original original, before it was dropped in the remake.dropped.
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** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/JamesLBrooks to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell.

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** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/JamesLBrooks to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell. The plot element of a quickie divorce at the Reno dude ranch seen in the original was dropped in the remake.
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** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/{{James L. Brooks}} to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell.

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** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/{{James L. Brooks}} Creator/JamesLBrooks to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell.
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* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and Leslie Neilson. The 2008 version features, among others, Meg Ryan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, Eva Mendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.

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* AllStarCast: The 1939 version features, among others, Joan Crawford, Rosalind Russell, Joan Fontaine and Norma Shearer. The 1956 film has June Allyson, Anne Miller, Joan Collins, and Leslie Neilson. The 2008 version features, among others, Meg Ryan, Creator/MegRyan, Annette Bening, Jada Pinkett Smith, Debra Messing, Eva Mendes EvaMendes (all five of which were "jointly" nominated for a GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Actress), Cloris Leachman and Carrie Fisher.


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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: The 2008 remake, which was first pitched by director and writer Diane English (the creator of ''Series/MurphyBrown'') in 1993.


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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Several:
** There was a remake planned in the 1970s, and it would have possibly featured men.
** When Diane English pitched the recent remake, she originally intended for Creator/{{James L. Brooks}} to direct it and both Meg Ryan and JuliaRoberts to star. Roberts declined, and the pitch spent nearly 15 years in DevelopmentHell.
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''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story.

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''The Women'' is a 1939 film directed by George Cukor and based on the 1936 stage play by Clare Boothe Luce. As its title implies, and contrary to the page quote, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin it's about women]]; in fact, there are no men at all in the story.
story. (As a matter of fact, in the movie no males of ANY species. The dogs are all bitches and the horses are all mares.)
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