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11th Mar '18 4:42:39 AM JoshCarter85
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* ''VideoGame/LifeIsStrange'': [[spoiler: Episodes 3 and 4 deal with this. Max going back and saving Chloe's father's life comes at an incredible cost to Chloe and her family.]]
8th Jan '18 7:55:15 PM Linda58
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** And played relatively straight anyway once everything starts going to pot (Baal dies, snakeheads attack, Earth in deep trouble). Apparently, ''Earth'' humans (as opposed to "alien" humans) living as slaves under the Goa'uld is not to be thought of - and we'd be better off never existing in the first place.

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** And played relatively straight anyway once everything starts going to pot (Baal (Ba'al dies, snakeheads attack, Earth in deep trouble). Apparently, ''Earth'' humans (as opposed to "alien" humans) living as slaves under the Goa'uld is not to be thought of - and we'd be better off never existing in the first place.



** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] in ''Megamorphs 3''. Some things in the altered future may have been better, many things were worse, but in the end when Rachel asked Cassie if they fixed everything, all Cassie could say was that "they put it all back."

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** [[AvertedTrope Averted]] in ''Megamorphs 3''. Some things in the altered future may have been better, many things were worse, but in the end when Rachel Jake asked Cassie if they fixed everything, all Cassie could say was that "they put it all back."
3rd Dec '17 7:17:14 PM Premonition45
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** [[MyFutureSelfAndMe Admiral Janeway's]] plan in the finale is to send Voyager home NOW. Captain Janeway points out that she did get Voyager home after another sixteen years. The plot takes over before they get too philosophical, to the disappointment of many watching.

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** [[MyFutureSelfAndMe Admiral Janeway's]] plan in the finale "Endgame" is to send Voyager home NOW. Captain Janeway points out that she did get Voyager home after another sixteen years. The plot takes over before they get too philosophical, to the disappointment of many watching.



** Mentioned and averted by way of Q. Picard's artificial heart is damaged and he's about to die, so Q gives him the opportunity to change his past to prevent the injury that led to him getting the transplant. Picard worries that any action he'll take in the past could have disastrous consequences, but Q brushes him off with, "Nothing you do will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. The only life at stake here is yours. In short, you're not that important."
** Of course, while it doesn't have disastrous consequences for anyone else, the consequences to Picard's own life after not getting in the fight that caused the injury are so bad he immediately asks Q to change it back even if he does die. So averted on a galaxy-wide scale, but definitely present in his own life.
* An episode of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' has the Defiant crash on a world populated by the crew's descendants (and a future Odo), thanks to a time loop. The characters decide they have no choice but to make sure these people live, and prepare to trap themselves in the past. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, future Odo couldn't stand to let Kira die again, so he screws with the ship, allowing it to escape and erase the entire colony.]] Kira doesn't take it well.

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** Mentioned and averted by way of Q. In "Tapestry", Picard's artificial heart is damaged and he's about to die, so Q gives him the opportunity to change his past to prevent the injury that led to him getting the transplant. Picard worries that any action he'll take in the past could have disastrous consequences, but Q brushes him off with, "Nothing you do will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. The only life at stake here is yours. In short, To be blunt, you're not that important."
** *** Of course, while it doesn't have disastrous consequences for anyone else, the consequences to Picard's own life after not getting in the fight that caused the injury are so bad he immediately asks Q to change it back even if he does die. So averted on a galaxy-wide scale, but definitely present in his own life.
* An The''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Children of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' Time" has the Defiant crash on a world populated by the crew's descendants (and a future Odo), thanks to a time loop. The characters decide they have no choice but to make sure these people live, and prepare to trap themselves in the past. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, future Odo couldn't stand to let Kira die again, so he screws with the ship, allowing it to escape and erase the entire colony.]] Kira doesn't take it well.
4th Oct '17 7:12:06 AM Kayube
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** The scandal surrounding Creator/JimmySavile turns [[Recap/DoctorWho1985JFIGSAFixWithSontarans "A Fix with Sontarans"]] into this for the Doctor and Tegan.
4th Oct '17 1:04:42 AM MetaFour
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* ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' touches on this in the [[ReCut extended "Rogue Cut"]]. When Professor Xavier proposes sending Wolverine back to the 70s to change the past, several of the younger mutants wonder if they'll still exist in the new timeline. They ultimately agree with the plan anyway, since the current timeline is [[CrapsackWorld just so bad]] that they're willing to be erased to fix it.
27th Sep '17 3:57:10 PM EdwardGil
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Related to ExpendableAlternateUniverse.

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Related to ExpendableAlternateUniverse.ExpendableAlternateUniverse, TheStoryThatNeverWas
9th Jul '17 10:34:08 AM nombretomado
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* Handily averted in John Birmingham's ''Literature/AxisOfTime'' trilogy, where a multinational fleet from the 21st century ends up in the middle of WorldWarTwo with no way to get back. The question is moot, as the appearance of the fleet results in a battle between them and the American task force heading for Midway. By the time the main characters figure out what happened, history has already been affected in a major way. Also, according to the novel, the characters know they're not really in their own past but in an alternate reality, so any changes they make will not affect their own timeline. For bonus points, Einstein himself confirms this.

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* Handily averted in John Birmingham's ''Literature/AxisOfTime'' trilogy, where a multinational fleet from the 21st century ends up in the middle of WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII with no way to get back. The question is moot, as the appearance of the fleet results in a battle between them and the American task force heading for Midway. By the time the main characters figure out what happened, history has already been affected in a major way. Also, according to the novel, the characters know they're not really in their own past but in an alternate reality, so any changes they make will not affect their own timeline. For bonus points, Einstein himself confirms this.



** Averted in the episode "The Savage Time", where Alternate Batman doesn't like living in an authoritarian regime after the Allies lost WorldWarTwo.

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** Averted in the episode "The Savage Time", where Alternate Batman doesn't like living in an authoritarian regime after the Allies lost WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
6th Jul '17 1:14:56 PM Linda58
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** Played straight in the episode "Timeless", in which Harry Kim is driven to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, a mistake on his part which killed the crew except for him and Chakotay who were in the Delta Flyer, but both Chakotay and his girlfriend know that this will cause them never to meet. Starfleet also saw it as dangerous and sent [=LaForge=] to stop them.

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** Played straight in the episode "Timeless", in which Harry Kim is driven to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, a mistake on his part which killed the crew except for him and Chakotay who were in the Delta Flyer, but both Chakotay and his girlfriend know that this will cause them never to meet. Starfleet also saw it as dangerous and sent [=LaForge=] to stop them. This is fully discussed by [=LaForge=] himself, who says he completely understands what they are trying to do and would [[NotSoDifferent dp the samething in their place]], but he has to think of the timeline and his own crew who will be changed by this.
31st May '17 6:35:10 PM nombretomado
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* The YoungAvengers team was started by the time-traveling villain Kang the Conqueror, who got a look at what he was going to grow into and ran away to our time to try and avoid growing into him. Which he did apparently succeed in, but unfortunately no Kang meant that none of the many fights he'd had with ComicBook/TheAvengers over the years and in some way that lead to almost all of them being killed, the small amount of the alternate world we see looking pretty dystopian, and the members of his team who were children of Avengers members (except for the daughter of the one whose death might actually have been ''prevented'' in the new timeline) fading out of existence. He realized that [[ButNowIMustGo he had to go.]] Although we've found out since that he's still time-traveling trying to find a way to avoid becoming a villain, he's just looking for a way that won't wreck things for everyone.

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* The YoungAvengers ComicBook/YoungAvengers team was started by the time-traveling villain Kang the Conqueror, who got a look at what he was going to grow into and ran away to our time to try and avoid growing into him. Which he did apparently succeed in, but unfortunately no Kang meant that none of the many fights he'd had with ComicBook/TheAvengers over the years and in some way that lead to almost all of them being killed, the small amount of the alternate world we see looking pretty dystopian, and the members of his team who were children of Avengers members (except for the daughter of the one whose death might actually have been ''prevented'' in the new timeline) fading out of existence. He realized that [[ButNowIMustGo he had to go.]] Although we've found out since that he's still time-traveling trying to find a way to avoid becoming a villain, he's just looking for a way that won't wreck things for everyone.
23rd May '17 11:20:20 PM EdwardGil
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* It never seems to occur to ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' that his goal, going back in time and stopping Aku, should it be successful will result in all the people who he meets and helps will stop existing due to how drastically Aku changed everything. [[spoiler: This becomes relevant in the last two minutes of the show.]]
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