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24th Nov '16 8:46:19 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* Acknowledged and arguably justified in an episode of ''Series/{{Buffy|the Vampire Slayer}}'', involving not time travel but alternate realities. In the Season Three episode "The Wish", Cordelia wishes that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale, creating an alternate reality in which the town is overrun by vampires. Alt-Giles figures out how to reverse the effect, but at the last second, the demon responsible for it tries to stop him, asking why he thinks the alternate (original) universe is any better than the one he knows. Giles' response? "Because it has to be."

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* Acknowledged and arguably justified in an episode of ''Series/{{Buffy|the Vampire Slayer}}'', involving not time travel but alternate realities. In the Season Three episode "The Wish", "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E9TheWish}} The Wish]]", Cordelia wishes that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale, creating an alternate reality in which the town is overrun by vampires. Alt-Giles figures out how to reverse the effect, but at the last second, the demon responsible for it tries to stop him, asking why he thinks the alternate (original) universe is any better than the one he knows. Giles' response? "Because it has to be."



** Done beautifully in the episode "The Fires of Pompeii". The Doctor is saddled with the choice of not setting off Vesuvius, thereby saving Pompeii, or sending those people to their deaths in order to keep history intact [[spoiler:and to keep the Pyroviles from conquering Earth. Finally, with support from Donna, he sets off the volcano.]]
** Comes up again later in "The Waters of Mars;" only this time, [[spoiler:The Doctor changes history by choosing to intervene.]]

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** Done beautifully in the episode "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii The Fires of Pompeii".Pompeii]]". The Doctor is saddled with the choice of not setting off Vesuvius, thereby saving Pompeii, or sending those people to their deaths in order to keep history intact [[spoiler:and to keep the Pyroviles from conquering Earth. Finally, with support from Donna, he sets off the volcano.]]
** Comes up again later in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars The Waters of Mars;" Mars]]", only this time, [[spoiler:The Doctor changes history by choosing to intervene.]]



** The scandal surrounding Jimmy Savile turns "[[Recap/DoctorWho1985JFIGSAFixWithSontarans A Fix with Sontarans]]" into this for the Doctor and Tegan.

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** The scandal surrounding Jimmy Savile Creator/JimmySavile turns "[[Recap/DoctorWho1985JFIGSAFixWithSontarans A Fix with Sontarans]]" into this for the Doctor and Tegan.
7th Nov '16 12:10:38 PM infernape612
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* Discussed and Averted in ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward. [[spoiler:Although the goal of the AB project is to prevent the release of the Radical-6 virus, the timelines in which Sigma and Phi failed to do so still exist. Phi talks to you about it briefly as part of the Multi-World Interpretation, and Tenmyouji and Quark talk about it during the Golden Ending, and some ethical implications thereof.]]

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* Discussed and Averted averted in ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward.''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward''. [[spoiler:Although the goal of the AB project is to prevent the release of the Radical-6 virus, the timelines in which Sigma and Phi failed to do so still exist. Phi talks to you about it briefly as part of the Multi-World Interpretation, and Tenmyouji and Quark talk about it during the Golden Ending, and some ethical implications thereof.]]
16th Oct '16 11:45:44 AM nombretomado
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* Aversion: Not TimeTravel, but worth commenting on; an AssPull justification that Marche of ''FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' gives regarding changing Ivalice back into [[UpTheRealRabbitHole "The Real World"]] is that surely the MagicalLand Ivalice will continue to exist as AnotherDimension after he destroys it.

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* Aversion: Not TimeTravel, but worth commenting on; an AssPull justification that Marche of ''FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' gives regarding changing Ivalice back into [[UpTheRealRabbitHole "The Real World"]] is that surely the MagicalLand Ivalice will continue to exist as AnotherDimension after he destroys it.
12th Aug '16 7:54:19 PM nombretomado
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* While it's hard to tell (since the game is currently in alpha), the plot of ''{{Achron}}'' will probably explore this. It's already been referenced on the developer blog before.

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* While it's hard to tell (since the game is currently in alpha), the plot of ''{{Achron}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Achron}}'' will probably explore this. It's already been referenced on the developer blog before.
7th Aug '16 6:04:52 PM nombretomado
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* Franchise/TheDCUTheDCU explored ''part'' of this with alternate timelines where good versions of Doomsday and Vandal Savage change things back; ironically back to where they are villains.

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* Franchise/TheDCUTheDCU Franchise/TheDCU explored ''part'' of this with alternate timelines where good versions of Doomsday and Vandal Savage change things back; ironically back to where they are villains.



* TheDCU's second {{Chronos}} spent some time trying to change history so his mother wouldn't die in a car accident. He eventually realised that the only way to ensure this was to [[RetGone never be born]]. He still exists as a time traveller, but his history up to the point he found Chronopolis has gone.

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* TheDCU's Franchise/TheDCU's second {{Chronos}} spent some time trying to change history so his mother wouldn't die in a car accident. He eventually realised that the only way to ensure this was to [[RetGone never be born]]. He still exists as a time traveller, but his history up to the point he found Chronopolis has gone.
7th Aug '16 5:51:51 PM nombretomado
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* TheDCU explored ''part'' of this with alternate timelines where good versions of Doomsday and Vandal Savage change things back; ironically back to where they are villains.

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* TheDCU Franchise/TheDCUTheDCU explored ''part'' of this with alternate timelines where good versions of Doomsday and Vandal Savage change things back; ironically back to where they are villains.
15th Jul '16 2:56:28 PM Enkida
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* Averted in ''TheThreeWhooves'', where [[spoiler:Three's memory is erased to make sure his experiences don't change his actions]].

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* Averted in ''TheThreeWhooves'', ''Fanfic/TheThreeWhooves'', where [[spoiler:Three's memory is erased to make sure his experiences don't change his actions]].
15th Jul '16 2:55:50 PM Enkida
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* In ''Fanfic/MementoVivere'', a VideoGame/FinalFantasyX fanfiction, this is a main plot point of the story.
* A ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' SlashFic called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9035781/1/Redo "Redo"]] explores this problem. Ed and Al, living TwentyMinutesInTheFuture from the end of the manga/''Brotherhood'', are sent back in time by a rogue alchemist to right before they traveled to Lior. They struggle with how they're now given the opportunity to save some people who died and situations they screwed up the first time, but also need to make sure everything that went ''right'' before does as well.



* A ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' SlashFic called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9035781/1/Redo "Redo"]] explores this problem. Ed and Al, living TwentyMinutesInTheFuture from the end of the manga/''Brotherhood'', are sent back in time by a rogue alchemist to right before they traveled to Lior. They struggle with how they're now given the opportunity to save some people who died and situations they screwed up the first time, but also need to make sure everything that went ''right'' before does as well.

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* A ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' SlashFic called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9035781/1/Redo "Redo"]] explores this problem. Ed and Al, living TwentyMinutesInTheFuture from the end of the manga/''Brotherhood'', are sent back in time by a rogue alchemist to right before they traveled to Lior. They struggle with how they're now given the opportunity to save some people who died and situations they screwed up the first time, but also need to make sure everything that went ''right'' before does as well.
17th Sep '15 4:36:51 PM nombretomado
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* The cost of salvaging anything at all of the original multiverse in ''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' was to produce a new single universe and erase the original multiverse entirely from history. So, from a very real standpoint, ''[[PyrrhicVictory nobody]]'' [[PyrrhicVictory survived the original Crisis]] (except Superboy Prime and co., and maybe Power Girl and Psycho Pirate), and all the current heroes are temporal copies of the originals.

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* The cost of salvaging anything at all of the original multiverse in ''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' was to produce a new single universe and erase the original multiverse entirely from history. So, from a very real standpoint, ''[[PyrrhicVictory nobody]]'' [[PyrrhicVictory survived the original Crisis]] (except Superboy Prime and co., and maybe Power Girl and Psycho Pirate), and all the current heroes are temporal copies of the originals.
6th Sep '15 5:58:18 PM nombretomado
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* The end of NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' sets right the circumstances that caused the temporal divergence that brought about the 'Age of Marvels' in the Elizabethan era. Thus, the timeline is overwritten, and history proceeds as necessary. The Watchers, however, step in and save the 1602 world as a pocket universe, kept in a glass globe by this version of Uatu.

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* The end of NeilGaiman's Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' sets right the circumstances that caused the temporal divergence that brought about the 'Age of Marvels' in the Elizabethan era. Thus, the timeline is overwritten, and history proceeds as necessary. The Watchers, however, step in and save the 1602 world as a pocket universe, kept in a glass globe by this version of Uatu.
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