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17th Mar '18 8:45:33 AM TheDocCC
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*** Untaming the grue is very much in mind with drow in ''TableTopGames/Pathfinder''. The drow of that setting are fleshwarping, demon-loving complete monsters who tried to crash an asteroid into the surface in order to bring about a second age of darkness and destroy any resistance to enslaving the surface dwellers. They would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those damn player characters.
14th Feb '18 7:34:44 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, to the point of becoming unambiguously heroic during TheSixties and TheSeventies, before being re-tooled as a different kind of nuclear bomb metaphor: still a defender, but [[GodzillaThreshold one you don't want to have to use]].

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* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, to the point of becoming being unambiguously heroic during TheSixties and TheSeventies, before being re-tooled as a different kind of nuclear bomb metaphor: still a defender, but [[GodzillaThreshold one you don't want to have to use]].
14th Feb '18 7:34:12 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, and for a while during the '60s and '70s, completely heroic, before being re-tooled as a different kind of nuclear bomb metaphor: still a defender, but [[GodzillaThreshold one you don't want to have to use]].

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* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, and for a while to the point of becoming unambiguously heroic during the '60s TheSixties and '70s, completely heroic, TheSeventies, before being re-tooled as a different kind of nuclear bomb metaphor: still a defender, but [[GodzillaThreshold one you don't want to have to use]].
14th Feb '18 7:32:43 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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** [[TabletopGame/TheLegendOfDrizzt Drizzt Do'Urden]] has fast-tracked the taming of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''' Drow; although for the most part they're still evil antagonists, ChaoticGood [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch renegade]] dark elves are [[OverusedCopycatCharacter a trope of their own]] by now.

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** [[TabletopGame/TheLegendOfDrizzt The [[TokenHeroicOrc heroic dark elf]] Drizzt Do'Urden]] Do'Urden in ''Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt'' has fast-tracked the taming of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons''' Drow; although for the most part his race in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', where they're also known as drow. The race is still evil antagonists, mostly evil, but the template of the ChaoticGood renegade dark elf has become an OverusedCopycatCharacter by now, even though the archetypal Drizzt himself was more [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch renegade]] dark elves are [[OverusedCopycatCharacter a trope of their own]] by now. unique]] when first introduced because good drow were way less common back then.
3rd Feb '18 2:24:00 PM nombretomado
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* Zombies and Skeletons while never portrayed as cute or cuddly, in cartoons it's not uncommon see friendly zombies and skeletons, who can detach and attach their parts at will. Then there are movies such as ''WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania'', ''WesternAnimation/DaddyImAZombie'' and ''WesternAnimation/CorpseBride'' (In which the undead were much more lively and upbeat than the extremely dreary land of the living) and of course the Franchise/MonsterHigh franchise. Even then there are fantasy novels and videogames which may feature Zombies who are friendly but either wish to be accepted by humans, or wish to die due to seeing themselves as monsters. Subverted in Videogame/{{Fallout}} in which the "Zombies" aren't actually zombies [[BerserkButton (And don't use that word in front of them)]] but are humans mutated by radiation to look like a corpse, but if their brain become radiated enough they can become "feral" and act like typical zombies.

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* Zombies and Skeletons while never portrayed as cute or cuddly, in cartoons it's not uncommon see friendly zombies and skeletons, who can detach and attach their parts at will. Then there are movies such as ''WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania'', ''WesternAnimation/DaddyImAZombie'' and ''WesternAnimation/CorpseBride'' (In which the undead were much more lively and upbeat than the extremely dreary land of the living) and of course the Franchise/MonsterHigh ''Toys/MonsterHigh'' franchise. Even then there are fantasy novels and videogames which may feature Zombies who are friendly but either wish to be accepted by humans, or wish to die due to seeing themselves as monsters. Subverted in Videogame/{{Fallout}} in which the "Zombies" aren't actually zombies [[BerserkButton (And don't use that word in front of them)]] but are humans mutated by radiation to look like a corpse, but if their brain become radiated enough they can become "feral" and act like typical zombies.
18th Dec '17 4:15:23 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Elves and fairies in general have gone from TheFairFolk to often AlwaysLawfulGood over the course of modern history.

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* Elves and fairies [[OurFairiesAreDifferent fairies]] in general have gone from TheFairFolk to often AlwaysLawfulGood over the course of modern history.
5th Sep '17 9:32:33 AM BrendanRizzo
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There are also cases where said monster is modified in order to appeal to younger demographics by making him more cute, huggable, and so forth.

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There are also cases where said monster is modified in order to appeal to younger demographics (and {{otaku}}s) by making him (or, for the latter, [[{{Moe}} her]]) more cute, huggable, and so forth.
1st Sep '17 2:51:41 AM PaulA
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* There are [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] plushie dolls (as shown in the page image). Not to mention [[ClockRoaches Hounds of Tindalos]], gugs, Mi-Go. Moreover, recent fiction is ''much'' more likely to play these guys for laughs rather than straight.

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* There are [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] plushie dolls (as shown in the page image). Not to mention [[ClockRoaches [[Literature/TheHoundsOfTindalos Hounds of Tindalos]], gugs, Mi-Go. Moreover, recent fiction is ''much'' more likely to play these guys for laughs rather than straight.
3rd Jun '17 1:11:47 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* In ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'', Bacchus and the Maenads undergo this treatment. The original Greco-Roman myths depict Bacchus as a fearsome god of alcohol and madness, and the Maenads as frenzied cultists who partake in orgies of ecstasy and gruesome violence. In ''Prince Caspian'', on the other hand, Bacchus is almost like the Disney version of Disney/PeterPan, and the Maenads are the female equivalents of the Lost Boys. To someone versed in Myth/ClassicalMythology, this comes off like a kiddie cartoon called "[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom Mola Ram]] and Friends." This is somewhat justified in-story by the implication that they're changed by [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan's]] presence, losing the aspects of their character associated with corruption and becoming representatives of harmless joy and high spirits. Susan even comments that "I wouldn't have felt very safe with Bacchus and all his wild girls if we'd met them without Aslan." It's a clear reference to the Christian "baptism" of pagan symbolism (e.g., the use of pre-Christian Germanic traditions at Christmas).

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* In ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'', Bacchus and the Maenads undergo this treatment. The original Greco-Roman myths depict Bacchus as a fearsome god of alcohol and madness, and the Maenads as frenzied cultists who partake in orgies of ecstasy and gruesome violence.violence akin to TheWildHunt. In ''Prince Caspian'', on the other hand, Bacchus is almost like the Disney version of Disney/PeterPan, and the Maenads are the female equivalents of the Lost Boys. To someone versed in Myth/ClassicalMythology, this comes off like a kiddie cartoon called "[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom Mola Ram]] and Friends." This is somewhat justified in-story by the implication that they're changed by [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan's]] presence, losing the aspects of their character associated with corruption and becoming representatives of harmless joy and high spirits. Susan even comments that "I wouldn't have felt very safe with Bacchus and all his wild girls if we'd met them without Aslan." It's a clear reference to the Christian "baptism" of pagan symbolism (e.g., the use of pre-Christian Germanic traditions at Christmas).
3rd Jun '17 1:11:18 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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** Dwarfs in Myth/NorseMythology may have conceptually evolved from dark elves; indeed, the ''Literature/ProseEdda'' equates dwarfs with ''dökkálfar'' and ''svartálfar'' (literally "dark elves" and "black elves" in Old Norse, respectively). As such, you'd expect these guys to be pretty {{depraved|Dwarf}}, and they often are in the myths. But as time went on, they became shorter and less malevolent until they were recognizable as the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame dwarves]] (spelled with a ''v'', following Creator/JRRTolkien's example) that we know and love today.

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** Dwarfs in Myth/NorseMythology may have conceptually evolved from dark elves; indeed, the ''Literature/ProseEdda'' equates equated dwarfs with ''dökkálfar'' and ''svartálfar'' (literally "dark elves" and "black elves" in Old Norse, respectively). As such, you'd expect these guys to be pretty {{depraved|Dwarf}}, and they often are were in the myths. But as time went on, they became shorter and less malevolent until they were recognizable as the [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame dwarves]] (spelled with a ''v'', following Creator/JRRTolkien's example) that we know and love today.



* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, and for a while during the '60s and '70s, completely heroic, before being re-tooled as still a defender, [[GodzillaThreshold albeit one you don't want to have to use]]. So it's still a nuclear bomb metaphor.

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* Franchise/{{Godzilla}} began as a horrible monster and nuclear bomb metaphor. Later on he became a protector from the other monsters, and for a while during the '60s and '70s, completely heroic, before being re-tooled as a different kind of nuclear bomb metaphor: still a defender, but [[GodzillaThreshold albeit one you don't want to have to use]]. So it's still a nuclear bomb metaphor.
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