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3rd Jun '17 11:27:26 AM nombretomado
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*** And as part of WhiteWolf being {{Magnificent Bastard}}s, you can't just kill a baby you know is a Fetch's and avoid the whole thing-it's just as likely, if not ''more'' so, that they actually were born with a soul, leading to a [[CreepyChild spooky]] but otherwise normal Fetch Child...who are spooky because they [[DetectEvil see through Glamour]], and open gates to [[EldritchLocation the Hedge]] by just existing. Oh yeah, and [[HolyHandGrenade they're inherent weapons against the True Fae]], so if you meet a Fetch's son that seems to have a conscience/inkling that other people exist, by God's sake ''keep him alive''!

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*** And as part of WhiteWolf Creator/WhiteWolf being {{Magnificent Bastard}}s, you can't just kill a baby you know is a Fetch's and avoid the whole thing-it's just as likely, if not ''more'' so, that they actually were born with a soul, leading to a [[CreepyChild spooky]] but otherwise normal Fetch Child...who are spooky because they [[DetectEvil see through Glamour]], and open gates to [[EldritchLocation the Hedge]] by just existing. Oh yeah, and [[HolyHandGrenade they're inherent weapons against the True Fae]], so if you meet a Fetch's son that seems to have a conscience/inkling that other people exist, by God's sake ''keep him alive''!
25th May '17 5:42:43 PM Godzillawolf
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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'':
** Shadows of Existence are technically half a pony's soul, the part that represents their lives and physical existence. When a pony is erased, this is what remains behind, and can continue to think and acts, but lacks the ability to ''feel'' anything, as they no longer have the original soul or Light of Existence (which returns to Fauna Luster to reincarnate). They basically act like crueler, heartless versions of their original selves, able to imitate emotions but not feel them. They're ''very'' desperate to get a new Light, which they can only obtain by performing a FusionDance with a pony who already exists...or ripping one out.
** [[spoiler:The Shadow of Chernobull/Makarov]] lacks a Light to begin with, as his creator was the Draconequus of Imagination Pandora. While able to create more than her siblings, the power to create is ''not'' something they can do. As a result, when accidentally released into the mortal world, he tries to remedy this by consuming the Lights of others.
** [[spoiler:Queen Chrysalis]] is kinda this. She ''has'' a Light of Existence, but like [[spoiler:Makarov]] she's a creation of Pandora, specifically Pandora put an artificial Light of Existence she made [[spoiler:into the original Cadenza's discarded Shadow of Existence]], which she blames for a lot of her problems. How much of them actually ''are'' the fault of this condition and how much she's using it as an excuse isn't clear, but she ''very'' much wants to become complete. [[spoiler:She succeeds, but the Elements (or having a true Light now) decide to [[VillainousBSOD throw in a heart]]...]]
15th Apr '17 9:48:12 PM Discar
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* ''Series/TheMagicians'': The loss of a person's shade appears to leave them like this, with the usual {{lack of empathy}}.

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* ''Series/TheMagicians'': The loss shade is the part of a person's shade appears to leave soul that allows them like this, to feel pain and fear--but also guilt, remorse, and love. People with the usual {{lack of empathy}}.their shades removed are friendly, happy, and [[LackOfEmpathy shockingly selfish]]. They are perfectly willing to commit murder and genocide for even short-term gains, and will do so with a smile and a song.
27th Mar '17 9:48:01 PM Nightmask
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* In one science-fiction story an entire alien race is revealed to be soulless after making first contact with humanity, but it's not natural but the result of the ubiquitous teleportation technology that they use as a single pass through will permanently separate one from their soul. This doesn't make them evil but as the soul provides among other things the spark of creativity it means their entire race is creatively sterile, incapable of making new discoveries and innovations (something the reporter protagonist of the story laments as he was one of the humans who got to be part of the group of humans to try the technology out, as he can no longer be creative). Basically it leaves a living being as simply an organic robot running through the patterns it had already learned but unable to develop new ones. The sympathetic alien who accepts the truth arranges the destruction of his ship and elimination of all records of humanity before it can be updated to the alien race's datanet to give humanity more time to develop in hopes that they might save his own race someday.
16th Mar '17 9:37:25 PM Fireblood
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* In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', the Gray Men are also known as this. They give up their souls to the Dark One, serving as his assassins. It leaves them near invisible for some reason, as their eyes will slide past the Gray Man like they aren't even there.
16th Mar '17 9:29:46 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/TheMagicians'': The loss of a person's shade appears to leave them like this, with the usual {{lack of empathy}}.
16th Mar '17 8:53:48 PM Fireblood
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When people use the phrase "soulless monster," they usually mean the person they're referring to [[KickTheDog isn't acting]] like a (decent) human being, not that they actually lack a soul and are a monster[[note]](well, a literal as opposed to a figurative one, anyway)[[/note]]. In fiction, some characters really ''are'' soulless, and often act like monsters because of it.

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When people use the phrase "soulless monster," they usually mean the person they're referring to [[KickTheDog isn't acting]] like a (decent) human being, not that they actually lack a soul and are a monster[[note]](well, monster.[[note]]Well, a literal as opposed to a figurative one, anyway)[[/note]]. anyway.[[/note]] In fiction, some characters really ''are'' soulless, and often act like monsters because of it.
5th Mar '17 7:02:06 PM nombretomado
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* [[{{Marvel}} Mephisto's]] son Blackheart was created without a soul, a trait carried over into the movie.

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* [[{{Marvel}} Mephisto's]] ComicBook/{{Mephisto}}'s son Blackheart was created without a soul, a trait carried over into the movie.
17th Feb '17 4:00:05 AM bt8257
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When a character loses their [[OurSoulsAreDifferent soul]], they normally become a listless EmptyShell or transform into TheHeartless; the Soulless, however, are active, rational, and still recognizably human in [[GlamourFailure almost]] [[TheMirrorShowsYourTrueSelf every sense]]. They just lack a soul. The Soulless are often motivated by one thing only: getting a soul. Any old soul will do, but frequently they want their own soul back for sentimental reasons. Much like the "DamagedSoul" case of CameBackWrong, problems arise because the character is no longer bound by ethical (and sometimes ''natural'') laws and demonstrates a disturbing LackOfEmpathy (and sometimes a lack of survival instincts). A NiceGuy will [[BewareTheNiceOnes break fingers]], TheCutie will just ''[[BreakTheCutie break]],'' and even the FriendToAllLivingThings will rampage through a petting zoo if it brings them closer to their goal. While a soulless character doesn't necessarily become a [[SerialKiller soulless killing machine]], [[SanityMeter sanity]] and [[KarmaMeter humanity]] don't fare very well without one. Even if both of these traits are independent of the soul and don't suffer in its absence, most Soulless characters have a [[TheUnfettered change in worldview that does erode their good nature.]]

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When a character loses their [[OurSoulsAreDifferent soul]], they normally become a listless EmptyShell or transform into TheHeartless; the Soulless, however, are active, rational, and still recognizably human in [[GlamourFailure almost]] [[TheMirrorShowsYourTrueSelf every sense]]. They just lack a soul. The Soulless are often motivated by one thing only: getting a soul. Any old soul will do, but frequently they want their own soul back for sentimental reasons. Much like the "DamagedSoul" case of CameBackWrong, problems arise because the character is no longer bound by ethical (and sometimes ''natural'') laws and demonstrates a disturbing LackOfEmpathy (and sometimes a lack of survival instincts). A NiceGuy will [[BewareTheNiceOnes break fingers]], TheCutie will just ''[[BreakTheCutie break]],'' and even the FriendToAllLivingThings will rampage through a petting zoo if it brings them closer to their goal. While a soulless character doesn't necessarily become a [[SerialKiller soulless killing machine]], [[SanityMeter sanity]] {{sanity|Meter}} and [[KarmaMeter humanity]] don't fare very well without one. Even if both of these traits are independent of the soul and don't suffer in its absence, most Soulless characters have a [[TheUnfettered change in worldview that does erode their good nature.]]
9th Feb '17 6:32:16 AM Paireon
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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', most intelligent beings do not have souls. This includes both the Red and Black Court vampires, as well as the Fae. This doesn't automatically make them evil...but it does make then inhuman and apparently coincides with a lack of true free will. In this setting, faeries can be [[MindControl compelled]] more easily than humans and it's not illegal to do so, and they are more bound by their nature than humans (creatures of habit, in other words) and unable to change it the way humans can reinvent themselves. The White Court 'vampires', on the other hand, appear to be basically a kind of human being, and they most certainly ''do'' have souls, and apparently free will (though this is somewhat limited by the fact that they share said soul with an unintelligent but very hungry demon). Angels ([[FallenAngel Fallen]] or otherwise), invert this trope- they're ''all'' soul, with bodies being temporary and incidental to their being (though Fallen sometimes possess humans).
** Dresden Files, being a series of books about wizards, also ties the concept of souls and names together very tightly. A human, having free will and the ability to craft his own soul, has the magical nature of their name _change_ over time, explaining why Wizards are sometimes willing to give out parts of their name to supernatural creatures... in a few decades, it will have lost the ability to influence them unless they give it away again. Fae and many other supernatural creatures aren't so much soulless as that they have _fixed_ souls, so once one knows their true name you have incredible power over them. Fallen and other angels are creatures whose entire soul is crafted as an instrument of divine authority, so their names can draw their attention and give them power over the speaker. And the big bads of the series... don't have names at all, and are thus soulless in the actual sense of the meme and not just the in-world theology. For reference, the nameless literally want to eat the world, and giving them a name neuters them.

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', most intelligent beings do not have souls. This includes both the [[OurVampireAreDifferent Red and Black Court vampires, vampires]], as well as [[TheFairFolk the Fae.Fae]]. This doesn't automatically make them evil...but it does make then inhuman and apparently coincides with a lack of true free will. In this setting, faeries can be [[MindControl compelled]] more easily than humans and it's not illegal to do so, and they are more bound by their nature than humans (creatures of habit, in other words) and unable to change it the way humans can reinvent themselves. The White Court 'vampires', on the other hand, appear to be basically a kind of human being, and they most certainly ''do'' have souls, and apparently free will (though this is somewhat limited by the fact that they share said soul with an unintelligent but very hungry demon). Angels ([[FallenAngel Fallen]] or otherwise), invert this trope- they're ''all'' soul, with bodies being temporary and incidental to their being (though Fallen sometimes possess humans).
** Dresden Files, being a series of books about wizards, also ties the concept of souls and names together very tightly. A human, having free will and the ability to craft his own soul, has the magical nature of their name _change_ over time, explaining why Wizards are sometimes willing to give out parts of their name to supernatural creatures... in a few decades, it will have lost the ability to influence them unless they give it away again. Fae and many other supernatural creatures aren't so much soulless as that they have _fixed_ souls, so once one knows their true name you have incredible power over them. Fallen and other angels are creatures whose entire soul is crafted as an instrument of divine authority, so their names can draw their attention and give them power over the speaker. And [[EldritchAbomination the big bads of the series...series]]... don't have names at all, and are thus soulless in the actual sense of the meme and not just the in-world theology. For reference, the nameless literally want to eat the world, and giving them a name neuters them.
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